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Hey guys! I'm a new user on this forum and I also a completely new android user, I have just gotten the HTC Desire HD. And I'm really really enjoying the OS. The way you can customize the OS is amazing! And Therefore I feel like I have been missing out for a while.
However there is one single problem about the HTC Desire HD and sadly it's a pretty big problem. (You guessed it,) the battery life. I'm not gonna lie, if i cut some features i can easily get through a whole day. But whats the point of buying a phone with lot's of features if you can't use them, and whats the point of having a 4.3" screen if you can't have the brightness level at 50+.
To the point!
HTC have already made updated batteries that have a much higher capacity than the original batteries, these are for some of their other products.
(just look at the higher capacity HD2 batteries by HTC, they have a higher capacity than the original HD2 batteries.)
That's why i suggest that we all contact HTC and let them know that we are both aware and annoyed by the horrible battery. And then request a better and improved battery for the Desire HD.
If you look at their updates, they have a pretty good history of listening to their customers.
And if their customer service department get about 300 requests in one single day I am absolutely sure that we will see a result in a month or maybe even faster.
I live in Denmark myself and I've seen a similar thread in
a Danish forum and in two days time we have had 183 people send mails to the Scandinavian HTC customer service.
Now there is only about 2000 active users on that forum so that's pretty good for two days. And with such a huge success in a Danish forum, I'm sure a big forum like this would do even better!
So if you have the time to write a little email to the HTC customer service telling them about the poor battery life and then make a request for a better battery, I (and probably every DHD user) would appreciate it.
And even if you are one of those lucky users that can go for days without charging while having standard settings,helping us wouldn't hurt.
Thanks in Advance
Well....although I do get your point, I am not sure that I, and probably other people as well, agree entirely on the 'horrible' battery life.
Yes, at first, it does look to have poor capacity when you get your DHD out of the box.
But remember, a lot of people, if not allm are using their new toy a lot the first couple of days.
If you browse this forum and the DHD topics you'll see that people report a lot better battery life after a couple of charges.
In addition to this, when you get into rooting and flashing, you'll see that users with custom roms, custom kernels and special profiles setup in Setcpu (like less Mhz usage when the screen is off) actually even get better battery life out if their DHD....
In essence, from what I have read, most people are able to use their DHD for one day without charging, which in my opinion, is quite acceptable, considering the size of the screen, the speed of the device and the possibilities and syncing going on....
If I sometimes read other cells'threads, it appears to me that the battery life on the DHD is not that far off, or even is better, than other top devices....
Having said that.....the effort you take I understand for sure, I just am not sure that HTC will do anything about it (as I think what we get is what we should expect)...
Where is the solution in that? Infact there is no solution its how it is
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DHD battery life sucks.
There is no point defending it. Its a bloody mobile phone, it supposed to be able to work out of box, not a science project that u have to spend days tweaking it in order to last a day without the bloody adapter!
u can tell i m really crossed with DHD battery life...
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it supposed to be able to work out of box
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It does work out of the box. Did yours not turn on?
If you mean 'it's supposed to have the best possible life the first time I fully charge it on day one' then, no it's not. You are wrong.
I just don't get it this was my first proper Android phone after coming from a HD2 and an iPhone 4 and the battery life is on par with both out of the box however simply reducing the time some apps sync I mean can you really not wait the 2 sec ish Twitter etc take to update? Really does improve battery life I have my screen set to 30% brightness which is more than enough if not you need specsavers not a new battery.
At a push I can get 2 days out of my DHD and I would say I'm a average to heavy user about 30 min calls 50 odd text and a couple of hours playing games surfing the net
Gadget show last night drained an iPhone 4 from full charge to flat in 2 hours using the layer app
I don't use setcpu etc I've just used some common sense.
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It does work out of the box. Did yours not turn on?
If you mean 'it's supposed to have the best possible life the first time I fully charge it on day one' then, no it's not. You are wrong.
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well, i charged mine overnight, leave home at 7, phone dead most days by 5pm. u can defend the battery life as much as you want, and i m glad u like yours. less than 12hr of standard use makes any smartphone useless in my view.
wakers said:
Gadget show last night drained an iPhone 4 from full charge to flat in 2 hours using the layer app
I don't use setcpu etc I've just used some common sense.
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I use iphone4 along side my DHD, almost identical setup in terms of sync and updates. when my DHD battery flat out in the afternoon, iphone4 has typically over 80% left.
I dont think it takes a rocket scientist to see DHD's battery is an issue.
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less than 12hr of standard use makes any smartphone useless in my view.
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Yeah, I would agree.
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well, i charged mine overnight, leave home at 7, phone dead most days by 5pm. u can defend the battery life as much as you want, and i m glad u like yours. less than 12hr of standard use makes any smartphone useless in my view.
I use iphone4 along side my DHD, almost identical setup in terms of sync and updates. when my DHD battery flat out in the afternoon, iphone4 has typically over 80% left.
I dont think it takes a rocket scientist to see DHD's battery is an issue.
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Unplug mine from charging about midnight, get home from work between 18.30 and 20.30 and most nights I have approx 30-40% battery left, LiOn batteries need multiple charge / discharge cycles to get the best out of them so no phone is gonna be at it's best outta the box.
There seems to be massive difference in peoples experience with there DHD mine defo lasts as long as the iPhone 4 I had how yours can last less than 20% there must be something wrong
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mine actually died last night (the first night i had it) i was a little surprised but i checked the battery usage and com.zxing..... used like 70%
lol it seems the barcode scanner didn't close and kept the camera on all night
I am a heavy user Facebook sync every hour a hundred odd texts a day few hours of internet browsing and I can get more than 12 hours mainly like 15 hours unplug at 7.30am and charge it 12.30am
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it seems that some people have a very good battery life even with heavy use,and some don't. I am new to android having come from windows mobile. In winmo devices,the radio version on the device can make a difference to the battery life on similiar devices.maybe this is the same case on DHD because I noticed there are several version of stock roms with different built of radio image.
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iznee said:
it seems that some people have a very good battery life even with heavy use,and some don't. I am new to android having come from windows mobile. In winmo devices,the radio version on the device can make a difference to the battery life on similiar devices.maybe this is the same case on DHD because I noticed there are several version of stock roms with different built of radio image.
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There isn't really a benchmark for "heavy user". I reckon its largely due to different interpretations. Throw the difference in batteries that are likely to exist due to the manufacturing process, and you'd get varying reported results.
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why do people complaint so much about battery life of DHD and other smartphone. when you look at their capabilities, you wouldn't switch your laptop on an expect it to last all day. cause its a smartphone doesn't mean it can do everything for you!
if the battery really bad, then the is a fault i.e faulty battery,app which is eating up resources, radio constantly changing from 2g to 3g which i think one of the biggest drain on battery or a set up which just going to drain battery faster etc etc. These phone when "out of the box" are set up to show the phone off, so yes its going to have it all sing and dancing at you! with everything switched on why you taylor the setting to meet your needs. please don't come back and say "but yes why have i got a smartphone and then i have to switch off all these features" you don't but don't expect it to last all day.
sorry about the rant but i think some people just have unrealistic expectations how long a smartphone can last. people who complain that the phone cant last 24hrs, why would you want it to last that long?. you telling me you don't sleep in that period of time if you want a phone to last 2 days get a nokia 8950! an if your a person who uses it as a business phone, come on what do you expect? your a heavy user. use some sense, have it so you can charge on the go or a get a nokia 8950 as your business phone, an use your smartphone as your own phone.
cattleprod said:
why do people complaint so much about battery life of DHD and other smartphone. when you look at their capabilities, you wouldn't switch your laptop on an expect it to last all day. cause its a smartphone doesn't mean it can do everything for you!
if the battery really bad, then the is a fault i.e faulty battery,app which is eating up resources, radio constantly changing from 2g to 3g which i think one of the biggest drain on battery or a set up which just going to drain battery faster etc etc. These phone when "out of the box" are set up to show the phone off, so yes its going to have it all sing and dancing at you! with everything switched on why you taylor the setting to meet your needs. please don't come back and say "but yes why have i got a smartphone and then i have to switch off all these features" you don't but don't expect it to last all day.
sorry about the rant but i think some people just have unrealistic expectations how long a smartphone can last. people who complain that the phone cant last 24hrs, why would you want it to last that long?. you telling me you don't sleep in that period of time if you want a phone to last 2 days get a nokia 8950! an if your a person who uses it as a business phone, come on what do you expect? your a heavy user. use some sense, have it so you can charge on the go or a get a nokia 8950 as your business phone, an use your smartphone as your own phone.
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True, but i honestly cant see why it would hurt to encourage HTC to make a new battery with higher capacity as a part of their accessory lineup for the Desire HD.
sorry yeah i do agree with you, that HTC sould bring out a higher capactiy battery and don't understand why HTC have not used a higher capactiy battery in first place. ive also have a X10(1500mAh) and BB storm2(1400mAh) both have higher capactiy, and X10 is the worst for battery life out of the 3 phones and DHD beats both these phone on battery life.
HTC have the reasons why they used that size battery for the DHD and if they do bring out a higher capactiy at least you can believe the claims of it being a 1800mAh, were these 3rd party batteries claim 1800mAh but really you only getting 1400mAh.
i was not aiming this rant at you, an im sorry, its to people that complain about battery life of todays smartphone and there expections of them.
Test it! You must not use more Power per Hour than 1%.If you are at 4% you do something wrong. In standby of course...
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walda said:
Test it! You must not use more Power per Hour than 1%.If you are at 4% you do something wrong. In standby of course...
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How would you test it?
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Test it! You must not use more Power per Hour than 1%.If you are at 4% you do something wrong. In standby of course...
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Mine is using about 4 an hour. But I figure that's cos I rarely properly exit apps.
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I'm sorry, but I can't take it anymore!!!
My battery lasts only 3-4 hours!!!!!
I would like to know if this is normal...
I use my phone 24/7 playing high end games, play music, text, and facebook.....
I am really stressed out about this..
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xdahd2 said:
I'm sorry, but I can't take it anymore!!!
My battery lasts only 3-4 hours!!!!!
I would like to know if this is normal...
I use my phone 24/7 playing high end games, play music, text, and facebook.....
I am really stressed out about this..
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if youre using it 24/7 for all that, then its normal
Really?........ Why does a psp last 12 hours non stop?
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xdahd2 said:
I'm sorry, but I can't take it anymore!!!
My battery lasts only 3-4 hours!!!!!
I would like to know if this is normal...
I use my phone 24/7 playing high end games, play music, text, and facebook.....
I am really stressed out about this..
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Is this really a thread. You use your phone nonstop and wonder why your battery lasts the way it does. You cant compare a psp to a nexus s. Close this thread. You want better battery life stop hogging the phone.
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My battery lasts me all day. I play n64oid for an hour a day during lunch at work. That drains 15% to 20% during that time. So yeah, that sounds normal.
Its not a console, built only for games. It has other things running all the time. Also, my old PSP maybe got 5 hours, you must have an extended battery.
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yes this is normal
i can burn through the 100% charged battery in 3~4 hours just browsing the internet alone
the WiFi or 3G is what eats all the power, same goes for the SAMOLED
other devices last even less time, using HTC Desire and similar devices i can drain the battery in 2~3 hours
i always carry extra battery packs with me, i'm a heavy duty user
So, to your answer, no, it is not unusual
High end 3D games also uses a lot of power in the CPU, GPU, SAMOLED and if you are playing online like WOW online for Android, then it will go up even faster.
xdahd2 said:
I'm sorry, but I can't take it anymore!!!
My battery lasts only 3-4 hours!!!!!
I would like to know if this is normal...
I use my phone 24/7 playing high end games, play music, text, and facebook.....
I am really stressed out about this..
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[Q] Battery life, compared to the Galaxy S
Hi guys,
I used to have a Galaxy S device, and recently purchased a Nexus S, and gave the Galaxy S to my wife.
I assumed that, given the fact that these two devices have a very similar hardware, the battery life would be somewhat similar in both.
However, this is not what I have experienced at all. I basically reinstalled all my apps and home configuration in the Nexus S. The only difference being that I'm using a darker wallpaper now (which is supposed to improve battery life.) The rest is pretty much identical - I basically restored all data from my apps using Titanium Backup (not the system data, evidently.)
I have noticed however that the Nexus S spends a lot more battery than my Galaxy S, especially when the phone is idle. I have everything turned off (GPS, NFC, 3G and Wi-Fi) just as I did with the other phone. Even on Airplane Mode the Nexus S seems to use a lot more battery. Leaving the phone on Airplane Mode at night would barely consume any battery at all with the Galaxy S. The Nexus S does take some hit though.
The battery life is still not a bad one. Especially when compared to LCD phones. However, the Galaxy S is significantly better with stock 2.2.
My question is: Why could this be? Is it because of Gingerbread? Or am I missing something?
Thanks guys!
it's quite the opposite for me
my previous phone was a SGS and it chewed more battery than the SNS
lfmmoura said:
Hi guys,
I used to have a Galaxy S device, and recently purchased a Nexus S, and gave the Galaxy S to my wife.
I assumed that, given the fact that these two devices have a very similar hardware, the battery life would be somewhat similar in both.
However, this is not what I have experienced at all. I basically reinstalled all my apps and home configuration in the Nexus S. The only difference being that I'm using a darker wallpaper now (which is supposed to improve battery life.) The rest is pretty much identical - I basically restored all data from my apps using Titanium Backup (not the system data, evidently.)
I have noticed however that the Nexus S spends a lot more battery than my Galaxy S, especially when the phone is idle. I have everything turned off (GPS, NFC, 3G and Wi-Fi) just as I did with the other phone. Even on Airplane Mode the Nexus S seems to use a lot more battery. Leaving the phone on Airplane Mode at night would barely consume any battery at all with the Galaxy S. The Nexus S does take some hit though.
The battery life is still not a bad one. Especially when compared to LCD phones. However, the Galaxy S is significantly better with stock 2.2.
My question is: Why could this be? Is it because of Gingerbread? Or am I missing something?
Thanks guys!
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Try to deactivate the GPS and Wifi if you do not use them. You can also use some apps to deactivate 3G access.
I wish Samsung produced higher capacity batteires though.
AllGamer said:
it's quite the opposite for me
my previous phone was a SGS and it chewed more battery than the SNS
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Was your SGS on 2.1?
I did notice that on Froyo (2.2) the SGS had a much better battery life than on Eclair (2.1). It really made a great difference.
But my SGS on Froyo is consuming a lot less battery than the SNS on 2.3. Especially when the phone is idle (both with everything turned off and set to GSM or even on Air Plane Mode).
So I was wondering if this could be a software issue.
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it's quite the opposite for me
my previous phone was a SGS and it chewed more battery than the SNS
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Same with me. I came from a Vibrant, and no matter what ROM I used, I'd lose around 8-15% of battery while sleeping.
With the same settings, and apps now on the Nexus, I lose 1-2 percent while I'm sleeping.
The idle is a lot better for me with the Nexus, and I lose a little bit less while I'm actually using the phone as well.
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Same with me. I came from a Vibrant, and no matter what ROM I used, I'd lose around 8-15% of battery while sleeping.
With the same settings, and apps now on the Nexus, I lose 1-2 percent while I'm sleeping.
The idle is a lot better for me with the Nexus, and I lose a little bit less while I'm actually using the phone as well.
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For me it's exactly the other way around. I assume your Vibrant was on 2.1, right? Cause in 2.2 the SGS does much better. And this is what I would lose: 1-2 percent when on airplane mode for an entire night.
Mind sharing what your config is? I'm on 2.3.3 + Netarchy 1.2.7
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For me it's exactly the other way around. I assume your Vibrant was on 2.1, right? Cause in 2.2 the SGS does much better. And this is what I would lose: 1-2 percent when on airplane mode for an entire night.
Mind sharing what your config is? I'm on 2.3.3 + Netarchy 1.2.7
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I was on 2.2 on the Vibrant. I was mainly using the Axura and Trigger roms.
My config on the Nexus is: Stock 2.3.3 with Launcher Pro.
Go get it exchanged and if it keeps happening, then it's your usage that you need to deal with by getting more batteries or keep it on the charger whenever you can.
I read a lot of threads and posts about battey life on NS and the problems of 100% charging, and most of people declared that the NS has a better battery life of all i9000 series or S series.
Maybe a nokia would suit better, days of battery
alexcinci said:
I read a lot of threads and posts about battey life on NS and the problems of 100% charging, and most of people declared that the NS has a better battery life of all i9000 series or S series.
Maybe a nokia would suit better, days of battery
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there is no problem with "100% charging" it was intentionally made this way to prevent bump charging.
and it does have better battery life. i last 24 hours+
xdahd2 said:
Really?........ Why does a psp last 12 hours non stop?
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My PSP doesnt last 12 hours non stop gaming
I have an extended battery and an extended external battery pack : )
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I have an extended battery and an extended external battery pack : )
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So wait - your PSP has both an extended battery and an extended external battery and you're surprised it lasts longer?
The Nexus S has a 1500 mAh battery in it. The PSP extended is a good 3600 mAh, and external packs can be 4200 or more. So that's 1500mAh for the phone and 7800 for the PSP. The PSP has 5.2x as much battery to power it, so it's logical that it'd last longer.
The phone's also a lot smaller and running power hungry radios for network connectivity, an OS to manage everything and misc. background tasks in addition to whatever game is running.
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I went to a local Apple Store to stand in line for the iPad 2 - I got there at 8 am and stood in line until 5 pm
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You're brave saying this in this thread. Most of us now thing you're an idiot...
My Nexus S went 33 hours before last charge. I am a light user though.
To check how you're does, don't use it for at least an hour one time, coming off charge. You should only lose 2-4%. Then check battery usage and see what's taking power when the phone should be doing very little.
This was on the portal today. It's a Droid Incredible mod that apparently improves battery life dramatically. OP has a full guide in place with info on what each tweak does. Galaxy note devs, amazing as they are, may or may not be using these (or similar) tweaks for the Note. In any case, FYI
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1621808
More snake oil... Improving your battery life tenfold with sysctl.conf changes when the radio dominates idle battery usage and screen dominates screen-on battery usage = bull****.
Maybe you can improve it a little - but tenfold? Bull****, and a ridiculously exaggerated claim like that makes me distrust any of the changes made.
I know what the prime power eaters on this device are, and sysctl tweaks aren't going to change those... Changing them requires major architectural rework of the kernel.
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More snake oil... Improving your battery life tenfold with sysctl.conf changes when the radio dominates idle battery usage and screen dominates screen-on battery usage = bull****.
Maybe you can improve it a little - but tenfold? Bull****, and a ridiculously exaggerated claim like that makes me distrust any of the changes made.
I know what the prime power eaters on this device are, and sysctl tweaks aren't going to change those... Changing them requires major architectural rework of the kernel.
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well then... Get to work! Aren't you one if the open source kernel developers? Just kidding btw
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Considering the vat majority of my battery usage is screen drain I doubt very much this would do much for me.
I dare say the same could be said for all note users.
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Entropy512 said:
I know what the prime power eaters on this device are, and sysctl tweaks aren't going to change those... Changing them requires major architectural rework of the kernel.
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That's what I thought. You guys know the device inside out, so it makes sense to bring things like this to your attention.
Incidentally, the guy says he gets 50+ hours on a single charge. My Note gives me 48+ hours (with little wi-fi though, and at 1200 MHz), so it's not that we have bad battery life.
Overclocking, init.d changes, etc are all extremely irrelevant in terms of battery use.
The main battery hog for any modern phone in the past 2 years has and always will be the screen (of course unless if you're using something like the Xperia Mini).
I'm more than happy with the Note's battery life to be honest. It's certainly better than the Sensation and One X I had previously.
The only way we will see much of an improvement will be if they make a phone the size of the Note with a 3.5" visible screen. lol
Or a 10000 mA battery.
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That's what I thought. You guys know the device inside out, so it makes sense to bring things like this to your attention.
Incidentally, the guy says he gets 50+ hours on a single charge. My Note gives me 48+ hours (with little wi-fi though, and at 1200 MHz), so it's not that we have bad battery life.
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You must barely use yours at all.
I'm lucky to get 10 hours out of mine.
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Dont care much about battery life if you are using smartphone with its big screen, alot of connection.
There are two solution, one is spare battery alway on pocket, other complete solution is change to cheap feature phone with 30 days battery life.
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You must barely use yours at all.
I'm lucky to get 10 hours out of mine.
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It's mostly phone calls, the occasional game, some music. Very little wi-fi though, and data only when I need it. Brightness set to auto except when outside (where it's set to max). The fact that I sleep atleast once in those 48 hours helps the battery life a lot
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That's what I thought. You guys know the device inside out, so it makes sense to bring things like this to your attention.
Incidentally, the guy says he gets 50+ hours on a single charge. My Note gives me 48+ hours (with little wi-fi though, and at 1200 MHz), so it's not that we have bad battery life.
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Do you use the phone as a paper weight ??
Entropy512 said:
I know what the prime power eaters on this device are, and sysctl tweaks aren't going to change those... Changing them requires major architectural rework of the kernel.
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I finished completely charging my Galaxy Note at 02:00 BST. After I got up at 07:00 BST, the battery level was at 86%. I switched off the Wi-Fi, force stopped Skype and WhatsApp (these are the only 2 apps I have installed so far!) before plugging the device to charge.
Background data and Auto-sync in Accounts and sync was turned off ages ago.
Before posting this message, I switched on the Wi-Fi to chat with my cousin via WhatsApp for 20 minutes. Now the Wi-Fi and WhatsApp are inactive. At the moment of typing this message, my battery level is 42%.
I have tried force stopping some of the pre-installed apps such as AccuWeather, ApMobile etc but the effort has been futile. I am aware that I need to root my device in order to get rid of the bloatwares. I am having another issue with the Auto brightness feature which I have described in another thread. I have not ventured into the realm of rooting until now because I may decide to send my device to Samsung's service centre.
I cannot figure out for myself whether my battery or my device itself has a flaw or whether it is normal and there is nothing wrong.
I will eventually pose my queries pertaining to rooting and relevant subjects. I am a novice in the field of mobile computing and I am here to learn from you all.
Thank you all for your continued patience.
Your device has a flaw, that flaw is called Skype.
Skype is a notorious battery drainer.
Coolkriss said:
Do you use the phone as a paper weight ??
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+111111111
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Entropy512 said:
Your device has a flaw, that flaw is called Skype.
Skype is a notorious battery drainer.
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Thank you for your prompt response Entropy512.
After I finish using Skype and subsequently signing out, I force stop it from Settings > Applications > Manage applications, either from Downloaded or All.
I use Skype on my phone to communicate with my sister when I am away from my computer at home, especially when I am at university. Thus, I am compelled to use it.
Do you reckon force stop is turning out futile? Should I get a third party "task manager" because the default/pre-installed Task manager seems incompetent.
Please do keep your expert opinions, suggestions and advise coming.
YLNdroid said:
Thank you for your prompt response Entropy512.
After I finish using Skype and subsequently signing out, I force stop it from Settings > Applications > Manage applications, either from Downloaded or All.
I use Skype on my phone to communicate with my sister when I am away from my computer at home, especially when I am at university. Thus, I am compelled to use it.
Do you reckon force stop is turning out futile? Should I get a third party "task manager" because the default/pre-installed Task manager seems incompetent.
Please do keep your expert opinions, suggestions and advise coming.
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Install BetterBatteryStats (free if download from xda). Check for wakelock to see what app is keeping your device awake.
Just as a note, there is a bug in the OS for our Note if you use the USB OTG cable. Once plugged in with any USB storage device, the unmounter process would cause the device to unable to sleep, thus causing battery drain. The only way out is to reboot.
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usb storage unmounter
soory is this usb storage unmounter wakelock bug in all the galaxy note device?
is there a solution
or is there any app that can terminate and close the wakelocks?
i know battery stat but i want an app to kill the wakelocks and system process
Dear People,
I am posting this out of big ENVY from my friend's story of his iPh*** 4 battery life with 40hrs ++ of usage (social network on, moderate usage, data always on, bla bla bla) and he still got 20% left of his battery!!!
I was just wondering did anyone managed to experience 40hrs ++ of battery lifetime? My best achievement with my nexus s battery life is
1 day 3 hrs with
MIUI Rom JB 2.8.17
Marmite Kernel 4.3
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Could we EVER achieved 40hrs ++ battery lifetime??? Since Iph*** 4 has practically same specs with Nexus S
It has 1Ghz procs, 512mb ram, 1500mah battery, bla bla bla
Any comments?
A very big advantage of the iphone is the very dim (to my opinion) screen backlight. If you change that to default 1 min instead of 20 on a custom rom, and then change your auto brightness values as well to lower ones your lifetime should increase alot. At least mine does. Also I use Llama to close mobile data after 5 minutes of sleep and then instantly turn it on on unlock. Anyway..we will never be able to win versus apple at some things. They have one operating system made for one device. We got one operating system for like..1 milion devices? That's the same story of console vs pc games.
andrei.voinea93 said:
A very big advantage of the iphone is the very dim (to my opinion) screen backlight. If you change that to default 1 min instead of 20 on a custom rom, and then change your auto brightness values as well to lower ones your lifetime should increase alot. At least mine does. Also I use Llama to close mobile data after 5 minutes of sleep and then instantly turn it on on unlock. Anyway..we will never be able to win versus apple at some things. They have one operating system made for one device. We got one operating system for like..1 milion devices? That's the same story of console vs pc games.
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Never used iOS devices before...So they have those kind of things hey..
I agree with you with the point that their OS was made for one device, while us is for millions
Thanks for the comment
I've been getting pretty excellent battery life lately, will put up a screen shot but got almost 52hrs battery life with wifi and 3g on until it got to about 15% with about 2h 24m screen on time, although this was pretty light usage to be fair.
Using codename 3.3.2 with standard kernal, I turned NFC off and this seemed to help massively although I've also heard the new Maps app has solved some battery drain so not sure which has contributed the most.
cptblubear said:
I've been getting pretty excellent battery life lately, will put up a screen shot but got almost 52hrs battery life with wifi and 3g on until it got to about 15% with about 2h 24m screen on time, although this was pretty light usage to be fair.
Using codename 3.3.2 with standard kernal, I turned NFC off and this seemed to help massively although I've also heard the new Maps app has solved some battery drain so not sure which has contributed the most.
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52hrs?????? Cant wait for your screenshots man!
You may think the specs are the same, but the hw in the iPhone and power management is still superior. They get a push notification, even while the 3g radio is in idle and almost off (in which it saves more power). It's hard for Android to optimize the power management specially because of that many hardware variations, it's not only the CPU that counts.
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You may think the specs are the same, but the hw in the iPhone and power management is still superior. They get a push notification, even while the 3g radio is in idle and almost off (in which it saves more power). It's hard for Android to optimize the power management specially because of that many hardware variations, it's not only the CPU that counts.
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Well, thats good to know, but since its the software differences (meaning coding and stuff), surely (i assume and hope) that we could also applied it (somehow) in our devices through tweaks, can we?
IMHO not much is possible since this is older hardware already and a question for how long will Google bother with it. It might be alot of work needed and you gain some insignificant amount of savings.
Would be nice to see some kind of power management tweaks in coming version of Android though.
well its halfly because android works differently and half way because of the hardware.
yes, the hardware is similar, but the nexus screen takes up more power, the processor is not very efficient, and nfc takes up power... also, the 3g radios are honestly HORRIBLE on the nexus s and that might have something to do with it.
but, the software side does make a major impact. iPhones do not multitask like android, which saves power on slower devices like the iphone 4. thats only half of it though, for instance, the iphone 4S has much worse battery life than the nexus s (by far). ROMs make a big difference also, I am very picky when choosing a ROM- if it doesnt have great battery life then I immediately replace it by another ROM that does.
I get on average about 16-20hours pretty consistantly if you are wondering, and I am OK with that as long as it makes it to the end of the day... I wake at 3:30 and normally it does. My advice is to experiment with different ROMs, I would suggest some, but I use an S 4G...
I don't really believe it. My friend has an iPhone and he uses it quit a bit and seems to have to keep it plugged in as much as I keep my phone. I think he said he usually gets about 8 hrs out of it. And the screen is pretty dull compared to mine so that might make a difference to
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The iPhone screen is a lot smaller too and that's a big tradeoff.
I always get a chuckle at the iHerd people I see on the bus holding their tiny screen 6 inches in front of their face so they can read it.
If battery life is really a concern get a couple of spare batteries and a charger.
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The iPhone screen is a lot smaller too and that's a big tradeoff.
I always get a chuckle at the iHerd people I see on the bus holding their tiny screen 6 inches in front of their face so they can read it.
If battery life is really a concern get a couple of spare batteries and a charger.
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Or an extended battery...
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heccubusxda said:
The iPhone screen is a lot smaller too and that's a big tradeoff.
I always get a chuckle at the iHerd people I see on the bus holding their tiny screen 6 inches in front of their face so they can read it.
If battery life is really a concern get a couple of spare batteries and a charger.
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Thats a good point too, smaller screen
Use this as yours to shut him up apples wack i got this oc to 1400 on stock with air kernel 186
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nucleor1989 said:
Use this as yours to shut him up apples wack i got this oc to 1400 on stock with air kernel 186
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Whoaaaah! What rom and settings? Awesome!
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Data was on all the time ? Ive got 33 hrs once but this is insane
I have achieved 50 hours on cna ... yes codename android but dang I forgot to take a screenshot of it I didn't have data on that time though
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Lasting 40+ hours is easy if you don't use the phone much...
The screenshot was taken on a long weekend a while ago. I was busy during the weekend and didn't use my phone much apart from listening to music for no more than 2 hours.
Si_NZ said:
Lasting 40+ hours is easy if you don't use the phone much...
The screenshot was taken on a long weekend a while ago. I was busy during the weekend and didn't use my phone much apart from listening to music for no more than 2 hours.
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Thats true, but from the iphone their data was on all the time, mid moderate usage.
But, just like some people said, power managwment chip, the os, makes big differences
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Hi all,
I just wanted to find out how many of i9505 owners have heat issues while using their handset
Dial *#0228# to find out the temp
experia1234 said:
Hi all,
I just wanted to find out how many of i9505 owners have heat issues while using their handset
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Good idea, I am having this issue, I had it with my S3, on the bottom of the phone, and my S4 is having it at the top of the phone.
I am going to carry on using the phone when it heats up too much, because it shouldn't damage the phone just for you to use it. If it does break, then I will send it back saying sort it out. I aint having Samsung sell a dodgy phone to me or anyone because they are just trying to keep in front of the competition. It's stupid.
Hopefully they will have common sense in the future. I have had the S1, S2 and S3 and S4, and been happy with all so far, but a bit annoyed about the heat issue on the S4 more than the one on the S3 because they have had enough people saying about it previously.
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Good idea, I am having this issue, I had it with my S3, on the bottom of the phone, and my S4 is having it at the top of the phone.
I am going to carry on using the phone when it heats up too much, because it shouldn't damage the phone just for you to use it. If it does break, then I will send it back saying sort it out. I aint having Samsung sell a dodgy phone to me or anyone because they are just trying to keep in front of the competition. It's stupid.
Hopefully they will have common sense in the future. I have had the S1, S2 and S3 and S4, and been happy with all so far, but a bit annoyed about the heat issue on the S4 more than the one on the S3 because they have had enough people saying about it previously.
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I had the S, S2, S3 and never had heat issues like the S4, only after an 1hr of GPS or gaming but not as much - I can cook an egg on my S4 just while surfing the web, what a nice feature!
When i dont touch for a while it is at 33C, but as soon as I read emails or light web browsing it reaches 44C, if then on youtube 48-55C.
when it get hot the battery % drops significantly and then when it cools down it recharge itself!
I was somewhere on S4 forum writed, this heating come most if device is on 4G (LTE) network. Try put on 3G (HSPA) or 2G (GSM) and you will see (and feel) device is much colder...
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miro666 said:
I was somewhere on S4 forum writed, this heating come most if device is on 4G (LTE) network. Try put on 3G (HSPA) or 2G (GSM) and you will see (and feel) device is much colder...
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No difference at all, even tried 2G
There are times my s4 gets real hot. Can't even touch the screen! The worst it got was when I did an antutu stability test. If I remember it said like 45*c.
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Mine reaches at 55-60
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Normally heat isn't a problem at all.
But sitting in a bus in direct sunlight with max brightness made it totally hot!
I was only browsing, so it was due to the screen.
When I had to make a phone call I had to keep phone a bit away from my ear.
It took 10-15 minutes to cool down again.
I think every single S4 WILL get really hot under same conditions.
Don't know how if this would be same for other brands like HTC One or iPhone
Mittaa said:
Normally heat isn't a problem at all.
But sitting in a bus in direct sunlight with max brightness made it totally hot!
I was only browsing, so it was due to the screen.
When I had to make a phone call I had to keep phone a bit away from my ear.
It took 10-15 minutes to cool down again.
I think every single S4 WILL get really hot under same conditions.
Don't know how if this would be same for other brands like HTC One or iPhone
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Yesterday I used GPS for 15 mins on power save mode and still got at 48C, battery dropped significantly.
I haven't see many votes yet which makes me think that it is not a common problem...
Standby - <27C° Browsing, video and other simple tasks - <45C° Games - <60C° So,overheating as well. Unfortunately.
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No issues at all. I have browsed for over an hour with no warm up. It warms a little when playing games or watching videos but no more than other phones ihave had and it doesn't justify the word 'overheat'.
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Just got mine yesterday and I must say the heat is very annoying, never had any problems with my s3. While with this one honestly it burns my face after 10 min talk.
Should I exchange it or just keep on using it ?
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cyrexking said:
Just got mine yesterday and I must say the heat is very annoying, never had any problems with my s3. While with this one honestly it burns my face after 10 min talk.
Should I exchange it or just keep on using it ?
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Return it if you can.
What is your idle temp?
experia1234 said:
Return it if you can.
What is your idle temp?
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Honestly dont know how to check it? Shed some info please and i will post it here.
Thanks in advance
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Ideal temp 27.5 (C)
saving mode activated and nothing running in the back ground. Is it good or bad?
When mine got hot it would be from simple tasks like browsing the net for 10 minutes. At its peak, you could not touch your face with it to make a call. (Think its update fixed it though, must have been software problem for me).
No issues so far.
Do you run with auto-brightness? What conditions do you experience this in?
Hot ambient temperature, sunlight?
Gnarfoz said:
No issues so far.
Do you run with auto-brightness? What conditions do you experience this in?
Hot ambient temperature, sunlight?
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Auto brightness is on and working and still when i do few things on the phone the heat start to raise in an obvious way at the back of the phone around the camera area, then if i do make a phone call seriously the heat is very annoying to a degree that makes you just want to finish the call cause its very hot.
Hmm.
I guess there's a wide spread then. From perfectly fine to absurdly bad and maybe even defective. :\