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SGS2 VS SGS CM7 for speed. I am very interested in this. I find CM7s speed to be instant in most cases. Is the SGS2 still faster by a big margin? Would be nice if i could hear opinion from those that had both sgs1 and sgs2.
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SGS2 VS SGS CM7 for speed. I am very interested in this. I find CM7s speed to be instant in most cases. Is the SGS2 still faster by a big margin? Would be nice if i could hear opinion from those that had both sgs1 and sgs2.
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As far as speed, stability and batterylife goes, my stock unrooted SGS2 knocks my old cm7-sgs out of the game. Simply put, its awesome.
PS: Can't wait to put CM7 on it though
SGS II will be better as it has better hardware - e.g. dual core processor, more memory etc
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As far as speed, stability and batterylife goes, my stock unrooted SGS2 knocks my old cm7-sgs out of the game. Simply put, its awesome.
PS: Can't wait to put CM7 on it though
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Wow i cant imagine how fast it is...
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jay_993 said:
SGS2 VS SGS CM7 for speed. I am very interested in this. I find CM7s speed to be instant in most cases. Is the SGS2 still faster by a big margin? Would be nice if i could hear opinion from those that had both sgs1 and sgs2.
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remember, most people test speed by how fast quadrant runs. Best thing to do is to test them both yourself.
is cm7 really that much faster than normal SGS (not 2) ?
is no way that sgs will be faster then sgs2..
sgs with 1 core sgs 2 with dual core...
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is cm7 really that much faster than normal SGS (not 2) ?
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Not really. It's faster, but not like WAY FASTER.
CM7 is not much quicker than for example JVP. I ran both for quite some time now and I think I'll stick with sammy rom since I want to be able to take 720p video's and use fm radio.
Also battery life is a bit of a deal breaker for me.
OT. Sure sgs2 will be faster especially when sgs2+cm7 (when available)
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is cm7 really that much faster than normal SGS (not 2) ?
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It was much faster until gingerbread, now the difference is not significant IMHO
i wondered and tried, i guess there is no big difference.. besides i believe the main difference comes with a good optimized software.. sgs 2 should be %45-50 faster than sgs on hardware but i think its rom is better optimized than sgs rom..
Bavaria85 said:
CM7 is not much quicker than for example JVP. I ran both for quite some time now and I think I'll stick with sammy rom since I want to be able to take 720p video's and use fm radio.
Also battery life is a bit of a deal breaker for me.
OT. Sure sgs2 will be faster especially when sgs2+cm7 (when available)
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I switched from JVP to MIUI, then to CM7.
MIUI is faster and smoother as JVP in everyway, but CM7 is not fast, it is instant. Test your Phone app after boot with JVP. I got sometimes 2 seconds latency.
The worst battery life has MIUI with its heavy UI.
With CM7 I got still a faster phone at 800 MHz. This is so amazing, I could not even believe it by myself.
Battery is running easly over 1 day with the current CM7 nightly.
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I switched from JVP to MIUI, then to CM7.
MIUI is faster and smoother as JVP in everyway, but CM7 is not fast, it is instant. Test your Phone app after boot with JVP. I got sometimes 2 seconds latency.
The worst battery life has MIUI with its heavy UI.
With CM7 I got still a faster phone at 800 MHz. This is so amazing, I could not even believe it by myself.
Battery is running easly over 1 day with the current CM7 nightly.
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Thats why i used the word instant on op as well
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mr_at_sgs said:
I switched from JVP to MIUI, then to CM7.
MIUI is faster and smoother as JVP in everyway, but CM7 is not fast, it is instant. Test your Phone app after boot with JVP. I got sometimes 2 seconds latency.
The worst battery life has MIUI with its heavy UI.
With CM7 I got still a faster phone at 800 MHz. This is so amazing, I could not even believe it by myself.
Battery is running easly over 1 day with the current CM7 nightly.
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Haven't tried JVP. But, tbh , never noticed that much speed difference between CM7 and stock GB.
However, stock GB, seemed to lag over a period of time, which didn't happen for me in CM7, while I was using it.
I have tried Galaxy S 2 (two models), one (probably because it already had quite a few apps and data), was not very smooth , esp. noticeable when loading gallery (took around 4s)...
The other one was super smooth and much faster than CM7..
I think my Sgs phone is quicker than my mates SGS II when using galician kernel at 1.4Ghz, man its quick
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It was much faster until gingerbread, now the difference is not significant IMHO
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Best description.
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Oh.. I would love to have SGS2.. Viewing its speed in compare with speedest SGS... Like i7 vs Core2Duo ...
get new life on your SGS with the galaxian kernel, and wait for SGS III early 2012, rumoured to have dual core 2Ghz cores, nfc, whoaa, will replace your laptop
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get new life on your SGS with the galaxian kernel, and wait for SGS III early 2012, rumoured to have dual core 2Ghz cores, nfc, whoaa, will replace your laptop
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How amazing would it be if the so called SGS3 was as hackable as an hd2!
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Hrithan2020 said:
Haven't tried JVP. But, tbh , never noticed that much speed difference between CM7 and stock GB.
However, stock GB, seemed to lag over a period of time, which didn't happen for me in CM7, while I was using it.
I have tried Galaxy S 2 (two models), one (probably because it already had quite a few apps and data), was not very smooth , esp. noticeable when loading gallery (took around 4s)...
The other one was super smooth and much faster than CM7..
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To be more precise, Stock Samsung ROMs are fast after install. But with a lot of apps installed there is too less memory, because mostly usefull apps are reserving memory space in background. If I use aggressive memory configurations some important apps like launcher, phone and contact are thrown out of memory. This occurs also if I delete some crap at system. With Froyo this issue wasn't so much present like with Gingerbread.
Hi,
I´ve read that ICS has GPU acceleration for the UI implemented as a standard. Is there really a difference in smoothness compared to custom gb roms? I´m talking about the i9001. But it should be the same as with the i9000
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Can't tell the difference.
I'm on RemICS v1.2 with Devil Kernel 3.0.72. I set GPU from stock 200MHz to OC at 250MHz and I can't tell the difference. But the Kernel developer did say it may not work. Still experimental.
Afaik no big difference, although our GPU is powerful. Maybe stock ROM has other imorovements, so the boost isn't good to feel on ICS.
Samurai05 said:
I'm on RemICS v1.2 with Devil Kernel 3.0.72. I set GPU from stock 200MHz to OC at 250MHz and I can't tell the difference. But the Kernel developer did say it may not work. Still experimental.
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GPU OC isn't same as GPU accelerated UI
And yes ICS should benefit from it..but can't really remember anyone GB times if there has been some speed gain..
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Yeah it does, but i reckon that ICS is really unpolished with it.
Running slim with the latest semaphore and I can definitely say this is the slickest my phone has been, but that is just my opinion
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Lekor2k said:
Hi,
I´ve read that ICS has GPU acceleration for the UI implemented as a standard. Is there really a difference in smoothness compared to custom gb roms? I´m talking about the i9001. But it should be the same as with the i9000
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There are apks that use the gpu. In custom roms i saw that this is true on i9001
The stock browser in 2.3.6 uses GPU acceleration. There are other apps also, but not the OS UI.
In 4.0 custom rom it should work in the apps when you enable the option from the developer options.
No difference. Everything using 8 mb more ram with 200mhz GPU acceleration.
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No difference. Everything using 8 mb more ram with 200mhz GPU acceleration.
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Bro, just upgraded my i9000 to ice and forced gpu acceleration.
Man even on the xda app itself I can see a marginal difference in smoothness.
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it has an option force gpu rendering that uses 2d hardware acceleration in applications...and you have to set it manual...but dont know if it rly helps in smoothness i think it depends more on the rom then to have this gpu option
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Bro, just upgraded my i9000 to ice and forced gpu acceleration.
Man even on the xda app itself I can see a marginal difference in smoothness.
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Because it's cyanogen. You can see it's even faster on cm7.
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I see an awful lot of people saying it offers no improvements. Personally, I think it does.
I keep my phone up to date as much as possible. When ICS was stable, I jumped right in. I haven't ran Gingerbread in a long, long time—but from what I remember, it had some lag. Android, in fact, was known for this lag. You couldn't read an iOS vs Android debate without this lag being mentioned (at least when Gingerbread was the newest). And I had tried everything: every lag fix, every tweak, every ROM, every kernel, governer, scheduler, OCing, UVing—I tried it all. But I still remember there being lag.
Now I'm in the present. I've been running ICS since it was stable and, quite frankly, I don't notice that lag. I mean, yes, my phone does still lag—if I'm doing something processor intensive in the background—but not like my memories of Gingerbread. Back then, it would lag scrolling through my list of apps; it would lag doing menial UI rendering without anything running in the background. That simply does not happen anymore. Not in my experiences. Not with ICS.
Granted, as I did in Gingbread, I do in ICS—I've applied every fix, every tweak, and every possible software combination that I could get my hands on. I've tried every ROM, every kernel, every setting imaginable. And I do this because I've been thoroughly impressed by the community here at XDA. This device of ours is over 2 years old now. But the software progression does not stop. We move forward as if the hardware was built just yesterday. And I have to tell you, our phone is keeping up—it really is. My phone is faster than a lot of my peers, even with some of them having much newer hardware. And I honestly don't feel I could have said any of this if I had stayed far behind with Gingerbread.
Everyone wants a new phone. It's newer, better, faster. But what they don't realize is that software can fulfill a majority of their wants. It is a continuous improvement, however gradual it may be. To not want to upgrade your software is like not wanting to upgrade your phone. And let's be honest, who doesn't want a new phone—one that's newer, better, and faster—without ever having to buy one.
I do. And that's why I update my phone. But maybe that's just me.
So, trying to improve my battery life I set my CPU to dual core, and for some strange reason, everything runs smoother now, from the interface to games.
Specially Contract Killers 2 and Dark Knight Rises. This games were a pain to play since I kept getting terrible stutter and lag and could only get good steady smooth performance overclocked which pretty much beats the whole quadcore CPU on the S3 if my gf stock S2 can run all this better than my S3.
I'm running Wanamlite Jellybean deodexed DLJ2 rooted with Siyah Kernel. At the moment not overclocked.
Only reason I can come up with is that most apps are optimized for dualcore CPU's since quadcore is not yet the standard.
Has anyone experience something similar to this or wants to try this out?
BTW, battery life hasn't improved much.
Samsung sure made a coding mess with Jelly Bean.
How did you set the device to dual-core ?
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How did you set the device to dual-core ?
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Stweaks when your running Siyah kernel.
Also you can remove lag from some games if you go to developer options and check "force GPU rendering"
Cyclosporine said:
So, trying to improve my battery life I set my CPU to dual core, and for some strange reason, everything runs smoother now, from the interface to games.
Specially Contract Killers 2 and Dark Knight Rises. This games were a pain to play since I kept getting terrible stutter and lag and could only get good steady smooth performance overclocked which pretty much beats the whole quadcore CPU on the S3 if my gf stock S2 can run all this better than my S3.
I'm running Wanamlite Jellybean deodexed DLJ2 rooted with Siyah Kernel. At the moment not overclocked.
Only reason I can come up with is that most apps are optimized for dualcore CPU's since quadcore is not yet the standard.
Has anyone experience something similar to this or wants to try this out?
BTW, battery life hasn't improved much.
Samsung sure made a coding mess with Jelly Bean.
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I have been running Dual-Core mode as well for 2 weeks now, as far as I can see it's just as smooth as Quad Core mode. At least in the following:
-General UI (homescreen, scrolling trough settings)
-Whatsapp, Facebook, Other apps
-Simple games like Jetpack Joyride
I haven't tested heavy games though. Reptide GP is smooth, that's kind off a heavy game.
Battery wise I haven't noticed any big difference either between dual and quad core mode. But neither performance wise, which is weird since it makes the quad core processor seem useless.
Stock CPU & GPU frequency's, undervolted CPU -100mV and GPU -50mV.
hi there,
i wrote a mail to tegrak, yet didn't get a reply whether he's planning to implenet support for the kernel on i9505 devices.
>>has anybody of you overclocked his s4? if yes, how?
No why would u need to overclock ?? antutu bragging ??
Even if he implements it in his app the stock kernel doesn't support it anyways.
Wait for some custom kernels which allow for over clocking I'd say.
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No why would u need to overclock ?? antutu bragging ??
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nope, because of the annoying lags for example when returning to homescreen or when scrolling in different apps or system settings or stock browser. on my note2 i used to lock gpu clock to highest 533mhz and there were no more lags, everything "buttery".
currently on xxuamdn using nova launcher.
hope the scrolling will be more fluently with further updates. where are the benefits of "project butter"?
anybody else experiencing lags and craving at least for a gpu lock? =)
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nope, because of the annoying lags for example when returning to homescreen or when scrolling in different apps or system settings or stock browser. on my note2 i used to lock gpu clock to highest 533mhz and there were no more lags, everything "buttery".
currently on xxuamdn using nova launcher.
hope the scrolling will be more fluently with further updates. where are the benefits of "project butter"?
anybody else experiencing lags and craving at least for a gpu lock? =)
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what about going to developer options
and turning window transition and animations scales to 0.5X
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what about going to developer options
and turning window transition and animations scales to 0.5X
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yeah, thats what i tried, also turning off. but it doesn't help. still lagging. think thats the software..
even my s2 and note2 had way less lags. impossible that the s4 has - with double powerful processor..
so waiting for new samsung update. or wanamlite or sth like that..
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nope, because of the annoying lags for example when returning to homescreen or when scrolling in different apps or system settings or stock browser. on my note2 i used to lock gpu clock to highest 533mhz and there were no more lags, everything "buttery".
currently on xxuamdn using nova launcher.
hope the scrolling will be more fluently with further updates. where are the benefits of "project butter"?
anybody else experiencing lags and craving at least for a gpu lock? =)
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how was battery life locking the gpu to the highest speed? lol
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how was battery life locking the gpu to the highest speed? lol
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oh, not mentionable: on my note2 i was undervolting the cpu (except the both highest ghz-rates) and overclocking gpu. still had 6-7 hours screen on time and with normal use 50% batterydrainage per day.
exobit said:
nope, because of the annoying lags for example when returning to homescreen or when scrolling in different apps or system settings or stock browser. on my note2 i used to lock gpu clock to highest 533mhz and there were no more lags, everything "buttery".
currently on xxuamdn using nova launcher.
hope the scrolling will be more fluently with further updates. where are the benefits of "project butter"?
anybody else experiencing lags and craving at least for a gpu lock? =)
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Upgrade to newer firmware.
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Any news so far? Overclocking of GPU is interesting always, and some boost to CPU may let you view some Hi10P videos.
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Upgrade to newer firmware.
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newer firmware than XXUAMDN? tell me when will it come. will take for sure three months, as samsung is exptected to have android 4.3 with the next update..
+ no news from tegrak yet.
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newer firmware than XXUAMDN? tell me when will it come. will take for sure three months, as samsung is exptected to have android 4.3 with the next update..
+ no news from tegrak yet.
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There is new firmware released all the time (particularly whilst the device is new). Custom ROM Devs normally use the newest as a base (if stable), so you'll have a choice of upgrading official stock manually via Odin, custom via CWM -or- wait for official release for your region.
If you wait for regional release, it could be a while, but flashing an international or other newer release will usually have a higher Samsung changelist with many bug fixes, performance and stabilty fixes.
Just break free of official, and enjoy the freedom
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newer firmware than XXUAMDN? tell me when will it come. will take for sure three months, as samsung is exptected to have android 4.3 with the next update..
+ no news from tegrak yet.
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I believe XXUAME2 is newer, I have read how it includes a fix for the "micro-lag" some (all?) devices suffer from.
Hi, anyone here have this lag issue too when playing game like asphalt 8 or gta : sa on stock tw 4.4.2 ?
Noriyuki_Fariz said:
Hi, anyone here have this lag issue too when playing game like asphalt 8 or gta : sa on stock tw 4.4.2 ?
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Gameloft games are only optimised for Adreno and Mali, not PowerVR.
GTA SA lags with almost all android devices
Man, but this game no lag in stock tw 4.3 and cm11 even i used only 2 core clocked in 1.200ghz.. maybe this bug only in i9500 tw 4.4.2 ?
Noriyuki_Fariz said:
Man, but this game no lag in stock tw 4.3 and cm11 even i used only 2 core clocked in 1.200ghz.. maybe this bug only in i9500 tw 4.4.2 ?
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Probably Samsung's aggressive thermal throttling which was introduced with 4.4.2.
BTW, how on earth did you get games to only run on 2 of the 4 low power A7 cores?
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Probably Samsung's aggressive thermal throttling which was introduced with 4.4.2.
BTW, how on earth did you get games to only run on 2 of the 4 low power A7 cores?
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I dont know, but game realy work without lag in dual core.. yeah samsung should work solve that bug i think.. i cant use 4.4.2 then..
Noriyuki_Fariz said:
I dont know, but game realy work without lag in dual core.. yeah samsung should work solve that bug i think.. i cant use 4.4.2 then..
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How on did you know it was just running on two cores?
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How on did you know it was just running on two cores?
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i disable it in stweak using MaxFour kernel.. ain't a15 run too on 1.200ghz ? i think not only a7..
yeah asphalt 8 high graphic run fine on my i9100 and gta : sa lowest setting..
Noriyuki_Fariz said:
i disable it in stweak using MaxFour kernel.. ain't a15 run too on 1.200ghz ? i think not only a7..
yeah asphalt 8 high graphic run fine on my i9100 and gta : sa lowest setting..
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No, the A15s run at 1.6Ghz... which is what I am rather concerned about.
Because a normally functioning phone should utilise all cores and speeds should be fluctuating above 1.2Ghz in for graphically intensive games in your case.
The i9100 has a optimised Mali 400 GPU which should run GTA better than most Adreno or PowerVR of that gen.
It is also worth noting that the SGS2 is running at a awfully lot lower resolution at 800*480 compared to 1920*1080 which will require a lot more processing power than the S2 to run those games at similar settings.
Both GPU and CPU are important.
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No, the A15s run at 1.6Ghz... which is what I am rather concerned about.
Because a normally functioning phone should utilise all cores and speeds should be fluctuating above 1.2Ghz in for graphically intensive games in your case.
The i9100 has a optimised Mali 400 GPU which should run GTA better than most Adreno or PowerVR of that gen.
It is also worth noting that the SGS2 is running at a awfully lot lower resolution at 800*480 compared to 1920*1080 which will require a lot more processing power than the S2 to run those games at similar settings.
Both GPU and CPU are important.
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in setting a15 can run in 700mhz up to 1.600ghz, a7 100 - 1.200 but yeah i'm not a master on this thing.. you right resolution affect too in performance..
Noriyuki_Fariz said:
in setting a15 can run in 700mhz up to 1.600ghz, a7 100 - 1.200 but yeah i'm not a master on this thing.. you right resolution affect too in performance..
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Have you tried forcing it to run at 1600Mhz in settings and perhaps lock your GPU clock as well?
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Have you tried forcing it to run at 1600Mhz in settings and perhaps lock your GPU clock as well?
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Yeah bro i tried everything, cpu gpu min clock set to max freq.. tried gltools too still no luck.. this not happend in tw 4.3 and cm11.. so i guest this a something bug in tw 4.4.2..