I've got a GS4 running 4.4.2 AOSP (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2544474) and I want to use my Moga Pro Power (http://androidspin.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/MOGA-Pro-Power.png) to play games like NFS MW and emulators like Super Gnes but I get an infuriating lag of ~0.4 of a second between pushing a button and the action happening, making games like Super Mario World on Gnes impossible. I've also tried a dualshock 3 controller over bluetooth and the lag is still there. If I use the PS3 controller plugged in with an OTG then the input lag is unnoticable. Is there anything I can do to improve the lag since I've read reviews and other xda threads which say the Moga works great?
Similar issue with the Nintendo Wii controller on both my S4 and Note 8. It worked fine on my previous Asus Transformer Prime from what I remember. It just may be how bluetooth is configured on our devices. Likewise, I have the same issue with my car's stereo, when I try to control the music playback. I wonder if there is a way to adjust it, but I doubt it.
So this looks like a Samsung issue then..... Were you running stock TouchWiz on your devices? What version of android were you using? I've looked all over the internet for someone with a similar problem with no luck. The strange thing is that I also get the lag on my Asus Nexus 7 with both my dualshock and moga.
Can the kernel affect Bluetooth performance because I've got a custom kernel that came with the AOSP rom?
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So this looks like a Samsung issue then..... Were you running stock TouchWiz on your devices? What version of android were you using? I've looked all over the internet for someone with a similar problem with no luck. The strange thing is that I also get the lag on my Asus Nexus 7 with both my dualshock and moga.
Can the kernel affect Bluetooth performance because I've got a custom kernel that came with the AOSP rom?
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I was running stock TouchWiz, with versions 4.1.2 to 4.2.2. I have not tried it on 4.4.2. I would think that the kernel could have an effect on the bluetooth performance, but I don't know enough to say that it's the only thing.
I see, I rechecked and actually also have a noticeable lag when using my sixaxis plugged in to both the S4 and nexus 7 (not as bad but still quite noticeable) which could mean this is a general input issue just more noticeable on Bluetooth.... What factors could affect input lag from external devices?
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Just purchased the game and for my surprise it is running really bad here. Low fps and laggy as hell.
I have been researching and it seems that tegra 3 has some issues with games from gameloft.
Anyone else tried and had problems like this ? I am trying to find a solution for this but so far no luck.
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Yeah same. Used different kernels too. It's pretty much unplayable.
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Forgot to say that I am using motley kernel. If the problem is with tegra maybe it possible to emulate some other api....
Well...back on looking for a solution....
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The PowerVR / Adreno 2xx / Mali chips do really well with Gameloft games. I guess nVidia needs to increase their market share before Gameloft shows them any love. My phone is using the Adreno 205 chip, and plays some games better than my Tegra device(which sucks).
If i am not mistaken Chainfire had an app to emulate tegra drives on mali so we could run games like shadowgun.
Maybe the opposite could be done either ?
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Heh... maybe
Let me try that ChainFire3D, and report back, because I'd like to think this was 25 cents wasted hahaha
*edit* DO NOT flash ChainFire3D. It sent my tablet into bootloops and had to restore a nandroid. Little bug with this phone won't let you go into recovery from bootloader without it being plugged in.
id say its your setup, its running very smooth here, and lag free. do you have force gpu rendering enabled in the main device settings, developer options? rasbean jelly rom with the latest trinity kernel.
Same here runs great, using paranoid android 2.17 and montley kernel 1.1.1 gpu 484.
Runs horribly for me too. Stock kernel and XenonHD,no over clock. Laggy as hell.
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Runs laggy here too on rasbeanjelly stock kernal, Franco kernal seemed to have slightly better performance buts dissapointing that gameloft is having us resort to using custom roms/kernals just to get almost decent performance in there games, back on tegra 2 gameloft games were extremely smoove what happened here?
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It seems to be a miss and hit scenario, some report it playable and some report unplayable. Suppose everyone has a different outlook on playable, anyway, Gameloft games aren't optimised for Tegra 3. As leelaa pointed out they only use 1 core, which is pretty annoying. Also this should be in Themes & Apps section?
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batman runs fine here..non-rooted..very mild lag sumtimes..but playable..i have complain bout asphalt 7...low gfx..terrible frame rate...
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It seems to be a miss and hit scenario, some report it playable and some report unplayable. Suppose everyone has a different outlook on playable, anyway, Gameloft games aren't optimised for Tegra 3. As leelaa pointed out they only use 1 core, which is pretty annoying. Also this should be in Themes & Apps section?
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You are correct they aren't optimized yet, if they were you would see all the HD titles on the wapstore, and there's actually none on there other than the simple free games that they have, but hopefully that changes soon
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Ran fine on rooted stock when I bought it a while back. Pretty graphics but it's more like watching a movie with predictive actions. After a few tries got bored and uninstalled it.
I'm on stock unrooted and it works perfectly. Very smooth.
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mine lags... almost unplayable.
Could it be possible that some 'variants' of Nexus 7 runs fine?
Let s try to discover what are the settings of those who runs it smooth and copy it.
I will begin to test it here.
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I disabled the force gpu under developer and it got way way better. Now it is playable. My nexus frooze while playing. I will increase the voltage and how it works.
Nice...i will keep testing
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Thank you.
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id say its your setup, its running very smooth here, and lag free. do you have force gpu rendering enabled in the main device settings, developer options? rasbean jelly rom with the latest trinity kernel.
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Hey thanks for this advice,I just ran into this problem and your advice fixed it. So just wanted to say thank you.
Hello, has anyone managed to get the Xbox 360 controller with an OTG cable to work on Modern combat 4? The right analogue stick doesn't move so I cannot turn my player, i would like to remap the controls as they only partially work right now. If anyone has experience with this or any form of guide how to help this would be hugely appreciated. Thanks
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+1 ^^^
I am looking for a similar thing...also is there an xbox app like the six axis for ps3 controller (even beta version in development would be helpful)...
I believe you might need a custom keylayout. If I recall right, someone posted a proper keylayout for both a wired and wireless Xbox 360 controller that was supposed to fix the spiraling camera issue in DEAD TRIGGER, which I would imagine would work fine for any other game
Okay but how do I go about getting a custom key layout?
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Okay but how do I go about getting a custom key layout?
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Will need to have root.
Info and key map in this thread
Not played modern combat 4... But this got my Xbox controllers working properly with dead trigger, gta3 and GTA vice city...
I'm fine with rooting just only if the controller will work for definite, otherwise I will return and swap for a ps3 sixaxis , and thanks also.
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Although that guide seems to apply to wireless? I'm using wired
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I tried that guide and it doesn't seem to be doing anything for MC4.
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+1 ^^^
I am looking for a similar thing...also is there an xbox app like the six axis for ps3 controller (even beta version in development would be helpful)...
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There is an app called USB/BT Joystick Center that does what you ask, it also works for a ton of devices such as wii controllers, mice, keyboards, etc. However native support would be much better.
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I tried that guide and it doesn't seem to be doing anything for MC4.
There is an app called USB/BT Joystick Center that does what you ask, it also works for a ton of devices such as wii controllers, mice, keyboards, etc. However native support would be much better.
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Has anyone used USB/BT Joystick Center on the Nexus 10? It looks interesting.
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Although that guide seems to apply to wireless? I'm using wired
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The file 'Vendor_045e_Product_0291.kl.zip', attached to that guide, is the key map for wired controllers, which is missing from the n10. Just extract and copy the file to /system/usr/key layout and then set permissions. As I said before, I can't say if it works with mc4 but it definitely works for other games.
I rooted / got USB/BT joystick centre 6, and used the touch server add on to assign the touch screen commands to my Xbox controller.
Each button works correctly, and both analogs but my only problem now is the sensitivity is not high enough for the right analog (turning left/right and up/down) so it takes about 5 seconds for a 360 degrees turn.
I turned the in game sensitivity up to Max, also when I assigned the right analog to turn I put the speed to its highest (10), increasing the speed helped slightly but I need it to be faster, anyone have expereince with the app and able to tell me how to increase the sensitivity?
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Just tried the guide from that thread and its no different unfortunately, the same buttons work before and after following the guide. Those buttons are Lb, Rb, Y,X and the left analog stick. Aside from that guide all I actually need is to increase the right analog sensitivity using USB/BT joystick centre somehow if anyone can assist,
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Maybe the better choice is ps3 controller with sixaxis app? I used to use it for Asus prime and modern combat 3. Panning wasn't as smooth though and required you to set up on screen button layout.
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Hmm from video tutorials I've seen of the ps3 controller on MC4, the sensitivity seems the same. Maybe I'm wrong but would rather first try and figure it out for an Xbox controller before buying a new one
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Does it work? as i am also trying to use my wired 360 controller and right stick doesn't seem to work...
You have to use the j>t touch emulation and set up the buttons yourself, but the right analog is to slow, need to know if their is a way to speed it up
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Still looking for help with my right analog sensitivity :/
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Help with right analog stick Sensitivity.
I am also trying to raise the sensitivity for my right analog stick as I am also trying to play Modern Combat 4 with my Xbox 360 controller. Does anyone have a solution?:
I never found one. I just went ahead and bought the ps3 six axis, along with the app. Has a sensitivity option which is perfect
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I can't see buying a $50 controller for a $1 game. I have a wired Xbox controller but think it would be cool if I could use my controller on mc4.. Joy2touch doesn't work too well. Any help would be awesome!
Am I using joy to touch wrong? Its like the dead Zone is huge but once you overcome the dead zone the movement speed seems to be full on. So aiming speed is either way fast or it doesn't move at all....
Has anybody been able to use the game controller with the universal driver successfully? It always says connecting but never does. I want to use it for emulators and this thing is so awesome!
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Has anybody been able to use the game controller with the universal driver successfully? It always says connecting but never does. I want to use it for emulators and this thing is so awesome!
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I couldn't get it to work. I'm not rooted so I didn't touch the system mode stuff. I can select the IME but it never connects. Also, it messes up my wifi so that I can't connect so I just uninstalled it.
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I tried with my rooted nexus 4 but it never connects and when I'm trying to connect it lags the phone so hard. I had to uninstall to restore to normal.
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Works perfect for me. Rooted using cm 10.1. Make sure you synced the controller in Bluetooth settings before. Check system mode then check the bax to start the service in the app. I just tested with an emulator and shadowgun dead zone works good but not enough buttons for dead zone when you set the controller in the options menu. My problem is not with the universal driver but with the official app playing modern combat. When I aim with the right joystick it just keeps moving it doesn't do this in dead zone with the universal driver. How are you guys using it in modern combat? Thanks
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Works perfect for me. Rooted using cm 10.1. Make sure you synced the controller in Bluetooth settings before. Check system mode then check the bax to start the service in the app. I just tested with an emulator and shadowgun dead zone works good but not enough buttons for dead zone when you set the controller in the options menu. My problem is not with the universal driver but with the official app playing modern combat. When I aim with the right joystick it just keeps moving it doesn't do this in dead zone with the universal driver. How are you guys using it in modern combat? Thanks
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So you did get it to work with the universal driver? In modern combat I use the default controls.
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It works perfect for me as well.. I use it with shadow gun dead zone and could not be more satisfied
Also for modern Combat, that only happens to me after I've been playing for a while, but at first it works just fine.. Might have something to do with the bluetooth problems in android 4.2
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worked for me! I used n64oid emulator and worked with super smash bros and stuff. also worked with the default sonic and moga enabled games.
It was awesome for the short time before i dropped my nexus and cracked the screen
Works here with my emulators as well as with MOGA suite games
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Works here with my emulators as well as with MOGA suite games
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Can you please share how you you got it to work with emulators as well as the ROM & kernel your using?
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Can you please share how you you got it to work with emulators as well as the ROM & kernel your using?
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So you did get it to work with the universal driver? In modern combat I use the default controls.
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Exactly what as I described before cm 10.1 with the stock cm kernel. Turn on the controller it will be blinking then go to your Bluetooth settings on your phone and scan for new device. When it shows b&d or moga or the numbers select it so you can pair the controller to the phone. After it us paired start the universal driver app check the box that says system mode then check the box that says start driver service. Turn the controller on again if it wasn't blinking and bingo bango you're connected....
Thanks will try this when I get home.
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N64oid problems on IME mode.
I'm not rooted, I don't want to root my Nexus 7, my Moga is able to browse N64oid's menu, but that's it, I can't play the game with it, please reply and tell me how to do it, I used the Universal Driver with my Moga Pocket, configured the buttons for N64oid so it should work but it isn't. Help?
So I have this MK808 that doesn't have bluetooth, but I have an IOgear USB dongle that has the Broadcom BCM2045 chip in it. Of course, it doesn't work when I try it. After a bit of googling, I found this website that has some dude getting it to work with something called a "Beagleboard" which seems to have similar specs as the MK808 (some differences).
http://antweb.me/index.php/blog-rea...-on-a-beagleboard-xm-running-android-ics.html
Any idea if those tricks will work on the stock MK808 ROM? Any idea if those mods are in any custom ROMs? Anyone want to try it out?
If not, I'll just return it and get the MK808B and be done with it. I figured that might help someone else, too.
Oh, and the USB BT dongle is the IOgear GBU221WM / GBU231WM if that helps. It's just a wrapper for that BCM2045 chip, though.
Majority of kernels/roms should have the bluetooth modules installed and working as standard now. Could always try flashing a new rom?
AFAIK this will NOT work.
Unless there has been a recent breakthrough. I have about 6 different Bluetooth USB adapters and tried everything from CM10 to Finless to MINIX Hybrid with various custom kernels.
I've found NO working combination. The drivers are there but something is failing. I've looked at logcats and watch it start and stop.
So I don't know. Hopefully one day because the lack of Bluetooth is annoying. I'd love to use my MOGA or PS3 with Bluetooth. I have a wireless 360 but I like the PS3 for emulators because of the good dpad.
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AFAIK this will NOT work.
Unless there has been a recent breakthrough. I have about 6 different Bluetooth USB adapters and tried everything from CM10 to Finless to MINIX Hybrid with various custom kernels.
I've found NO working combination. The drivers are there but something is failing. I've looked at logcats and watch it start and stop.
So I don't know. Hopefully one day because the lack of Bluetooth is annoying. I'd love to use my MOGA or PS3 with Bluetooth. I have a wireless 360 but I like the PS3 for emulators because of the good dpad.
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just checkout the Funseries V3 Rom for Micromax Funbook..and some spansish dev also had included dongle support in their Roms.
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The dongle I have (full-sized like Bluetooth 1.x?) doesn't work...
I think it depends on the Kernel modules/drivers?
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just checkout the Funseries V3 Rom for Micromax Funbook..and some spansish dev also had included dongle support in their Roms.
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hey guys
Is anybody else facing this?
When I was doing a bit of phone research before I got my grand prime, I stumbled upon this Indian guy video on YouTube in which he plays some games, one if these games is asphalt 8 which he plays at high settings with no noticeable lag.
Now the problem is that I can't even play asphalt at medium settings, I mean the game is absolutely unplayable, bunch of lag and frame drops and stuff.
Actually my phone hangs and freezes a lot randomly, even candy crush freezes at times.
So... anyone of you guys are experiencing this kind of behavior?
Im rooted and on whatever firmware that the mohan method installs, done a hard reset already and it only got a bit better.
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Touchwiz is likely to lag no matter how good the system hardware is, The main reason is we're having latest touchwiz Ux on a phone which is made for Nature Ux 2.5.
To improve performance I would suggest you to use any CPU controller app (No-Frills) to put your phone to performance mode. Also use greenify to hibernate apps that you don't use often to increase the available ram.
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awesome, thx be trying that
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awesome, thx be trying that
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so... didnt helped, same although not as often hangs, anyone facing these?
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