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GPS initial lock problem... Still

Fix applied and still having initial lock issues...
Power off and back on to test initial locking...
Lbstestmode is taking about a minutes to obtain a lock, while maps and gps test is taking up to 15 minutes if used for initial lock.
Once the initial lock is obtained, all is fine until next power, or long sleep
Am I alone?

My gps settings are default except I have changed standalone to MS-based and accuracy to 100. What I do is if the gps isn't locking really fast, I delete GPS data then run a get posistion test for a minute or three. I usually get between 10-14 satellites. Afterwards, my gps locks on very quickly and accurately. The fact that I have to clear GPS data and re-run the posistion test leads me to believe (or should I say hope) that the gps problem is software based.

Chalup said:
My gps settings are default except I have changed standalone to MS-based and accuracy to 100. What I do is if the gps isn't locking really fast, I delete GPS data then run a get posistion test for a minute or three. I usually get between 10-14 satellites. Afterwards, my gps locks on very quickly and accurately. The fact that I have to clear GPS data and re-run the posistion test leads me to believe (or should I say hope) that the gps problem is software based.
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If I power off/on, I also have to run the get position test for several minutes, then all is fine. I'm not sure if power is what causes it to loose its data, or time plays a factor...

dalepa said:
If I power off/on, I also have to run the get position test for several minutes, then all is fine. I'm not sure if power is what causes it to loose its data, or time plays a factor...
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Yea I have the same problem. Time definitely plays a factor, because when I go to sleep and wake up I have to clear the data then run the position test. But once I run the position test, the GPS locks on very, very quickly and accurately, which makes me feel hopeful that an OTA update could fix the problem. But since I bought the phone off contract I have 30 days to return...so if Samsung doesn't official release a statement by then I may have to return this amazing phone

Chalup said:
Yea I have the same problem. Time definitely plays a factor, because when I go to sleep and wake up I have to clear the data then run the position test. But once I run the position test, the GPS locks on very, very quickly and accurately, which makes me feel hopeful that an OTA update could fix the problem. But since I bought the phone off contract I have 30 days to return...so if Samsung doesn't official release a statement by then I may have to return this amazing phone
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I installed flixster and it tried to locate me via gps and couldn't...after I closed flixster, the gps was still open (still trying to get a signal) and sucking my power... Looks like it may mainly be an issue indoors
The gps initial locking issue needs to get fixed soon! My wifi only iPad locates me every time in about 2 seconds
It's going to suck if this great phone is flawed by gps

[TIP] GPS Issues Workaround

Obviously Samsung has no idea how to write proper drivers for Android phones running the QSC6085. I found a workaround that fixes any issues with GPS.
It's completely simple, turn off WiFi and 4G when you're trying to get a lock.
Proof 1: I stood outside in broad daylight with clear skies connected to my home's WiFi network. Using GPS Test, my phone discovered 12 satellites and made 0 connections for 3 minutes. I closed the app, disabled WiFi (used 3G) and I got a lock of 4 satellites within 15 seconds and 6 - 8 after another 15 seconds.
Proof 2: I left my house and went straight from WiFi to 4G. I got in the car and turned on Google Navigation. I set it to my destination and waited for a lock. After a minute I turned off 4G and got a lock within 15 seconds.
THIS PHONE HAS NO MAJOR GPS ISSUES. Obviously these are simple bugs and I have no doubt in my mind that Samsung is aware of these and will fix them in the next update.
Other GPS bugs I've noticed:
No matter how many satellites I have locked on, my accuracy has never gone below 30 meters.
SNR numbers are really low. According to a leaked ROM for the Vibrant, this can be fixed.

K.. I checked your tips..
3g only[Inside Apt] -- floats between 7 and 8 sat and usually 6-7 locks
Wify Only[Inside Apt] -- Solid 9 satalites and 7-8 locks
4G[no wifi] : stopped with 4 sat and 4 locks but I noticed that my 4g likes to sleep

Yes, it seems that when using WiFi, that updated ephemeris data is not being transmitted, however, it's not bulletproof - after a day or so, it'll try to lock, the 3G connection will go dormant, and it'll just sit there...

I have three epics and have been working with *#1472365# settings and testing for about a week.
I am concerned you maybe getting a false positive on repair of the main problem until you confirm, with no resets and further changes to *#1472365# (which reset the cache) that 24 hours later and in a diffident position you do lock most sats Epic sees.
There are a dozen things you can do to flush out the xtra data cache, just none that I have found that persist and to it regularly (ideally with a couple hours at most for ephmeris, and a day o r two for alamanc). Most proper aGPS implementation will also give the device a minute on warm/hot start, and if is seeing and not locking, grab new assistance data from the best source (first choice network, second birds)
I do think sammy is teid itself up in knots with drivers because of the many different agps environments Galaxy S is sold in. It goes way beyond GSM v CDMA, but also even bigger considerations, like agps data source adn methods, and even whether the device is in a unlimited data carier environment (like our epics) or not.
have you done any testing with the xtra settings themselves? seems to me that is where the rubber hits the road?.

aero1 said:
have you done any testing with the xtra settings themselves? seems to me that is where the rubber hits the road?.
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The only change I've made with my phone's *#1472365# settings is setting it to Cold Start to save battery. I know in testing builds of the Moment aGPS addresses were set to internal testing ones that didn't work.

No problem with GPS here. I use Navigation and CoPilot and both pick me in seconds. Navigated from the mechanics workshop today just to test it out and worked like a charm. Guess some have it and some don't.

yes me too, and further, with speedtest app, the only way i can get it to lock on a server that is near me is to have wifi on when I start the app, then it locks on my server, otherwise, it has me 1500 miles away as closest server.

LordLugard said:
No problem with GPS here. I use Navigation and CoPilot and both pick me in seconds. Navigated from the mechanics workshop today just to test it out and worked like a charm. Guess some have it and some don't.
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No, we all have the same bug and Sprint Device team is trying to get samsung on it.
You just haven't been in a condition where it occurs, whcih is turning on GPS in a different location say 8 hours later absent flushing the cache.
The Epic doesn't properly check the cache for staleness, so everyone who uses GPS will come up on this problem eventually. It is a bug Samsugn has had before.
arashed31 said:
The only change I've made with my phone's *#1472365# settings is setting it to Cold Start to save battery. I know in testing builds of the Moment aGPS addresses were set to internal testing ones that didn't work.
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the reason why I am asking is Epic has in that debug menu are setting to set time for attempts as well as flushing the cache manually. It would be interesting if we could get that going.
the reason I say so is cold start is a good workaround but it will murder GPS TTFF (time to first fix) in non network conditions. It will make it worse than standalone. Literally every time you start it will be a cold start and you will have to wait for almanac, which is 5 to 15 minutes if outside of network coverage. That is what I am seeing with cold workaround. I am still playings with forcing warm
Are you seeing that? with cold stat set, enable airplane mode, restart Epic, restart GPS and see what happens.

arashed31 said:
I found a workaround that fixes any issues with GPS.
It's completely simple, turn off WiFi and 4G when you're trying to get a lock.
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This method did not save me today, when after letting my Epic's GPS go unused for > 24 hours I tried to get a lock with WiFi and 4G disabled. Multiple satellites were visible, but only two were used. Gave up and rebooted. After which, almost immediately, I got 8 out of 9.

boomerbubba said:
This method did not save me today, when after letting my Epic's GPS go unused for > 24 hours I tried to get a lock with WiFi and 4G disabled. Multiple satellites were visible, but only two were used. Gave up and rebooted. After which, almost immediately, I got 8 out of 9.
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Yes I think the OP got hit with what hit us in all testing. That is why i am doing careful controlled tests. Since the main issue has to do with failure to consistently and properly remove expired and invalid assistance data cache lots of things may be removing that cache, for example any changes to that cause a reset.
Right now the only consistent way to remove it without user intervention is to go into the debug and set as cold start. The problem with that is it introduces a new problem affecting standalone TTFF, ie once you get outside of data range you will do worse TTFF than dedicated handlheld GPS units that keep almanac in ephemeris.
This problem is akin to some condition where the phone will freeze and not make calls if you don't use it in 24 hours but most people didn't realize there was a time consideration. 90% of the people would be saying there is no bug or that they have a fix.
to test any fix you have to:
get a gps location.
not use GPS for 12 hours or move location significantly.
do not reset or action that inadvertently fushes cache.
test again.
In every case and attempted workaroudn with this test but cold start hack I cannot get a gps fix on any of our three epics.

@aero1,
The complication in my last case is that I was in Cold Start mode. Maybe I just didn't give it enough time.
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boomerbubba said:
@aero1,
The complication in my last case is that I was in Cold Start mode. Maybe I just didn't give it enough time.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App
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Cold start set in *#, data connection on, clear sky and no fix within 30 seconds? Please say it isn't so.

aero1 said:
Cold start set in *#, data connection on, clear sky and no fix within 30 seconds? Please say it isn't so.
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That's the setting alright. I think at first I had 4G enabled when I started GPS Test. But the first thing I did was disable it, thus defaulting to 3G, with GPS Test still running.
But it's possible I didn't give it enough time to lock. I was in my car and perhaps too impatient. I may have given up and rebooted after less time than that.
Since then I have left Cold Start set, and have not experienced a no-lock error condition again. But I have rebooted a couple of times for other reasons. When I started my commute home this afternoon and started GPS Test, it was slow to lock but it came around to a full lock in a minute or so.

I've been using the GPS quite a bit this past week. I've had no problems getting a fix except for onces. It was due to the typical bug (find satellites but not connect). I went into the GpsTest shortcut and set it to Hot Start then back to Cold Start. Immediately the GPS started working again.
Switching back and forth clears the GPS cache and fixes this issue. To me, that's the only problem this phone has. As far as I know, this can be an INCREDIBLY EASY fix if anyone can go into the source and put in a way to periodically clear the cache.

GPS after the update

I think I've updated my phone with something called Kies mini... I am trying to check my location with the gps but it aint even close to where I live!!!
Everyone talks about how satellites has their gps locked on to but I have no idea how to see that... with gps test.
HELP PLEASE! It has been always showing the same location doesnt matter which city I'm on! (before the update too)...
I think once I have tested this gps fix that was around, but then I went back to normal settings (i guess)... cause it didnt work
Now it it says that I have ECLAIR.UVJI6
I am new to all this

Search the market for an app called "GPS Test". It will show you all of the information you're looking for.

Well, I'm still having GPS difficulties with the newest update (Running Bionix 1.9).
ECLAIR.UVJI6 is the newest update, so don't worry about that.

cwoodworth said:
Well, I'm still having GPS difficulties with the newest update (Running Bionix 1.9).
ECLAIR.UVJI6 is the newest update, so don't worry about that.
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At least I have the right update :/
tenchi-kun said:
Search the market for an app called "GPS Test". It will show you all of the information you're looking for.
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I have GPS Test and GPS Status... The first one doest even move at all when I start the application and the second one on the bottom show it seems that is loading something forever. Where do I see the sats? Have no idea. From the second one I will guess that it could be that part that says "fix/sats" and right now is saying 0/2.
My goodness... The damn gps would so useful to stop loosing myself on the German streets
Nothing that I can do to fix it? Is there any news about if this is the last official fix for the gps?

My GPS was working great when I first odin JI6, now all of the sudden it just stop working, I try to odin it back to JI6 again and it still doesnt work so well.

I'm testing the GPS out right now. I've had the phone since wednesday, tried google maps and it's never been able to get my location. I just installed JI6 today and ran GPS test for the first time. I got 0 satellites for a couple of runs until my 3rd try where it eventually got up to 10.
Even though I get locks on GPS test, google maps/navi still can't pick up my location so it's useless =\

In my specific case, I found that the JI6 GPS update did not perform much better than the original version. Yes it was better, but certainly not as good as the JI2 update. So, I've applied the JI2 update and things seem to work much better.
Also, I've found that turning off wifi when making the initial GPS lock really helps reduce the amount of time needed to initially lock.
Good luck!

^ second that. Try to turn off wifi.

Try these maybe:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=728894
FYI - Ive had good luck changing to MS Based:
From link-
""In MS-Based mode, the network provides the satellite information to the device, based on a rough estimate of where the device is located, and the device acquires the GPS signals from the satellites and calculates its location. After the initial fix, the device operates like an autonomous GPS receiver, until the satellite information must be refreshed, at which time the device goes back to the network to update the satellite information. MS-Based mode is appropriate for applications that require the device location to be updated rapidly, such as a navigation application. Can the GPS work in autonomous mode? No, the GPS receiver requires the assistance of the network elements to acquire its initial location fix.""

i flashed bionix 1.9 and had more problems with gps than when i was running 1.5. atleast before it was sort of accurate... and found a couple sats after 2-3 minutes. but iwth 1.9... nothing and not even the correct side of the street (showed me east while i was way west). then i found someone who had a gps fix based on j12 and it was in zip so... i mounted that to me SD and reinstalled using clockwork recovery... now within seconds i get gps ... extremely accurate... AND... lock on to most of the satelites that are available. i love it!

Right, so here are my thoughts and experiences while using the new JI6 update:
1) Way more accurate than the previous couple of builds that I have tried. When the GPS does lock, it usually locks onto 10/12 birds and finds my location within 5-6 meters. Not bad! Definitely not as good as when I had GPS working via one of Eugene's Franken-Twiz ROMs (between 2-3 meters), but definitely good enough for daily navigation.
2) The fix for damn sure didn't fix any of the satellite aquisition problems that our phones have been experiencing. Typically for me it will aquire satellites right off the bat about 50% of the time. Other times I'm left waiting 20+ minutes for it to get a lock.
3) Solution I have found to get a quick fix. Type in *#3214789650# (for the new JI6 update) and delete the GPS Data cache. I think it's the last button on the list. After the cache is cleared, use the top button on the list to perform a location test. I've seen this take anywhere from 30 seconds up to 2 minutes... sometimes a bit longer if I am in an area with poor signal coverage. Once I have aquired a successful lock on multiple birds, I simply back out of the application and am good to go. If I leave GPS constantly on, I have found that my phone will maintain the lock almost indef. If I turn the feature off during the day to conserve battery life I have found that it will usually aquire a lock within 30 secs or so of me turning GPS back on IF I am still in the area where I turned the feature off. If I drive to an area an hour or so away from where I turned it off, I usually have to repeat the above process to get a quick fix.
I've tried every iteration of option combinations from the lbltest menu, and have mostly been greeted by similar results, with no one option particularly speeding up the process. Based off of this I am assuming the issue probably lies with the caching of stale data on our phones, and it's inability to purge this data on it's own.
The one thing I haven't tried yet is the JI2 fix mentioned above. I might give this a whirl and see how it works!
BTW, I'm an expat working in Europe, so this might also be the cause of my slow lock times... however every other GPS I own works magnificently over here.

Moped_Ryder said:
Try these maybe:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=728894
FYI - Ive had good luck changing to MS Based:
From link-
""In MS-Based mode, the network provides the satellite information to the device, based on a rough estimate of where the device is located, and the device acquires the GPS signals from the satellites and calculates its location. After the initial fix, the device operates like an autonomous GPS receiver, until the satellite information must be refreshed, at which time the device goes back to the network to update the satellite information. MS-Based mode is appropriate for applications that require the device location to be updated rapidly, such as a navigation application. Can the GPS work in autonomous mode? No, the GPS receiver requires the assistance of the network elements to acquire its initial location fix.""
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That's the first "fix" for the gps? I tried once but it didnt work.

I have tried pretty much all the "fixes" I can think of and this is what I have found. No matter the source (root mods, Bionix, J12/J14/J15/J16-leaked and OTA), changing from 'standalone' to msbased helps tremendously. Also using the google server and port is much much better for faster locks and maintaining lock even if you are not in clear view of the sky (tree, buildings etc will affect you lock). I willl say the stock JFD with the msbased and google server and port was better than just about all the other ones I have tried with the stock standalone and spirint server.
IMO The OTA J16 is the fastest and most accurate (less than 10 feet everytime, less than 30sec fix everytime) that I have tried, but even that required me to use the google server and port, and also switch to msbased.

theking52 said:
i flashed bionix 1.9 and had more problems with gps than when i was running 1.5. atleast before it was sort of accurate... and found a couple sats after 2-3 minutes. but iwth 1.9... nothing and not even the correct side of the street (showed me east while i was way west). then i found someone who had a gps fix based on j12 and it was in zip so... i mounted that to me SD and reinstalled using clockwork recovery... now within seconds i get gps ... extremely accurate... AND... lock on to most of the satelites that are available. i love it!
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Hey, do I need to root my phone for that?

cathardicnotion said:
Right, so here are my thoughts and experiences while using the new JI6 update:
1) Way more accurate than the previous couple of builds that I have tried. When the GPS does lock, it usually locks onto 10/12 birds and finds my location within 5-6 meters. Not bad! Definitely not as good as when I had GPS working via one of Eugene's Franken-Twiz ROMs (between 2-3 meters), but definitely good enough for daily navigation.
2) The fix for damn sure didn't fix any of the satellite aquisition problems that our phones have been experiencing. Typically for me it will aquire satellites right off the bat about 50% of the time. Other times I'm left waiting 20+ minutes for it to get a lock.
3) Solution I have found to get a quick fix. Type in *#3214789650# (for the new JI6 update) and delete the GPS Data cache. I think it's the last button on the list. After the cache is cleared, use the top button on the list to perform a location test. I've seen this take anywhere from 30 seconds up to 2 minutes... sometimes a bit longer if I am in an area with poor signal coverage. Once I have aquired a successful lock on multiple birds, I simply back out of the application and am good to go. If I leave GPS constantly on, I have found that my phone will maintain the lock almost indef. If I turn the feature off during the day to conserve battery life I have found that it will usually aquire a lock within 30 secs or so of me turning GPS back on IF I am still in the area where I turned the feature off. If I drive to an area an hour or so away from where I turned it off, I usually have to repeat the above process to get a quick fix.
I've tried every iteration of option combinations from the lbltest menu, and have mostly been greeted by similar results, with no one option particularly speeding up the process. Based off of this I am assuming the issue probably lies with the caching of stale data on our phones, and it's inability to purge this data on it's own.
The one thing I haven't tried yet is the JI2 fix mentioned above. I might give this a whirl and see how it works!
BTW, I'm an expat working in Europe, so this might also be the cause of my slow lock times... however every other GPS I own works magnificently over here.
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Gonna try this out! cheers

finds sats but won't lock on...
I'm still having GPS problems post-update. I've never installed any custom ROMs or any custom GPS fixes other than some tweaking in the LbsTestMode menus, which I have since reverted to the default.
In the LbsTest or the GPS Test app I get the same results: the phone always finds 10-12 satellites just fine (levels in the 20s) but it never locks onto my location. GPS Test will say "In View: 10" for 20 minutes but "In Use" always stays at 0.
Anybody have any ideas here? I was really hopeful that I'd finally have a functioning GPS after this update.

cathardicnotion said:
Right, so here are my thoughts and experiences while using the new JI6 update:
1) Way more accurate than the previous couple of builds that I have tried. When the GPS does lock, it usually locks onto 10/12 birds and finds my location within 5-6 meters. Not bad! Definitely not as good as when I had GPS working via one of Eugene's Franken-Twiz ROMs (between 2-3 meters), but definitely good enough for daily navigation.
2) The fix for damn sure didn't fix any of the satellite aquisition problems that our phones have been experiencing. Typically for me it will aquire satellites right off the bat about 50% of the time. Other times I'm left waiting 20+ minutes for it to get a lock.
3) Solution I have found to get a quick fix. Type in *#3214789650# (for the new JI6 update) and delete the GPS Data cache. I think it's the last button on the list. After the cache is cleared, use the top button on the list to perform a location test. I've seen this take anywhere from 30 seconds up to 2 minutes... sometimes a bit longer if I am in an area with poor signal coverage. Once I have aquired a successful lock on multiple birds, I simply back out of the application and am good to go. If I leave GPS constantly on, I have found that my phone will maintain the lock almost indef. If I turn the feature off during the day to conserve battery life I have found that it will usually aquire a lock within 30 secs or so of me turning GPS back on IF I am still in the area where I turned the feature off. If I drive to an area an hour or so away from where I turned it off, I usually have to repeat the above process to get a quick fix.
I've tried every iteration of option combinations from the lbltest menu, and have mostly been greeted by similar results, with no one option particularly speeding up the process. Based off of this I am assuming the issue probably lies with the caching of stale data on our phones, and it's inability to purge this data on it's own.
The one thing I haven't tried yet is the JI2 fix mentioned above. I might give this a whirl and see how it works!
BTW, I'm an expat working in Europe, so this might also be the cause of my slow lock times... however every other GPS I own works magnificently over here.
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exact same issue. drive an hour away and the gps is hosed unless you clear it and start it again.
I am also overseas. I wonder if grabbing the GPS settings from I9000 would help? Does anyone have them or know where to find them?
EDIT: nevermind they are the same settings

00sivan said:
exact same issue. drive an hour away and the gps is hosed unless you clear it and start it again.
I am also overseas. I wonder if grabbing the GPS settings from I9000 would help? Does anyone have them or know where to find them?
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I used the GPS for hours going between statelines with JI6, no problems requiring a signal when I closed out GPS.
The_Tim said:
I'm still having GPS problems post-update. I've never installed any custom ROMs or any custom GPS fixes other than some tweaking in the LbsTestMode menus, which I have since reverted to the default.
In the LbsTest or the GPS Test app I get the same results: the phone always finds 10-12 satellites just fine (levels in the 20s) but it never locks onto my location. GPS Test will say "In View: 10" for 20 minutes but "In Use" always stays at 0.
Anybody have any ideas here? I was really hopeful that I'd finally have a functioning GPS after this update.
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Reboot the phone, it usually works in this case.

heygrl said:
I used the GPS for hours going between statelines with JI6, no problems requiring a signal when I closed out GPS.
Reboot the phone, it usually works in this case.
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the thing is... mine worked in the states with the stock JFD without any problem. flawless.
it stopped working when i got overseas. and hasn't worked well since. It really seems like it ONLY works well in the states. I mean I can get it to work if I clear the data all the time, reset the phone all the time, but it's not supposed to work like that. It should just find me when i open maps like any sound person would expect from the device. can anyone contend? is anyone having flawless GPS functionality outside the US?

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I've rebooted at least 5 or 6 times, as well as clearing the GPS cache ("Delete GPS Data" in LbsTestMode) numerous times as well. Still never gets a location lock despite seeing 10-11 satellites.

Samsung Galaxy S GPS issue - Phone drops good GPS fix when button lights timeout

Here is a post I have put up on the vodafone.IE support forum this afternoon.
http://forum.vodafone.ie/index.php?/topic/5898-samsung-galaxy-s-gps-issue/
I figured I would post here too - as maybe this will give some of you serious android programmers a clue as to where to find the issue with GPS
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I have experienced issues with the Galaxy S (2 weeks old - with the KIES Android 2.2 update loaded) doing Navigation,
I decided to download the FREE VERSION of application "GPS Status & Toolbox" from the Android Market to see what king of signal quality the phone was getting. The results were more than a little surprising.
The application will need GPS turned on. I turned off the "Wireless Networks" location services to make sure it was not contributing to the problem.
When you start the application, go to Menu->Settings->Display & Tools-> and select "Keep the screen on" so you can watch the satellite signals.
Now, return to the main screen, and allow the phone to pick up satellite signals. At the bottom right of the compass window it shows Fix/Sats with numbers indicating how many Satellites it has found, and how many it has managed to fix on a signal from. And, just below that there is a line of signal strength bars all the way across the screen.
Once you get enough good fixes, the signal strength bars for the fixed signals will turn green, and the phone will update your position below the compass.
Now for the fun bit....
The FREE version of this phone displays (some dubious) ads at the bottom of the screen. If you click on any one of them, it will launch an Internet Browser session over the top of the application. Immediately press the BACK button to cancel the Internet Browser, and return to watching your satellite signals. Notice that the MENU and BACK buttons will have lit up as the browser started, and will still be lit.
After approximately 3 seconds, watch the MENU and BACK buttons light go out, and at the same instant, the signal from ALL satellites will drop completely, and the phone will start scanning for satellites from scratch again.
It appears as though Samsung have inadvertently hooked the control of the power feed to the GPS chip into the same piece of logic as the power feed to the light behind the phone's buttons.
I am not sure what else can trigger the loss of signals but this appears to be a real problem.
I have verified that it is not just my phone that experiences this issue. I have replicated it on one of my colleagues phones too.
Can somebody from Vodafone please try this same test and report the results back to Samsung. It needs to be fixed urgently.

After approximately 3 seconds, watch the MENU and BACK buttons light go out, and at the same instant, the signal from ALL satellites will drop completely, and the phone will start scanning for satellites from scratch again.
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I noticed a similar effect when using the GPS test app.
When you have a fix, if you turn the phone 90 deg. to 'landscape' view and then back again, it has to start again to get a lock...

Are you sure it is not a bug in the app? With GPS Test app, I have a fix, then press menu button then press the back button to hide it. 3 seconds later the button lights go out but I still have a fix.

Its a bug in the app. Same thing happens when you go to settings too. Loses a good fix.
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Liverpool Fan in Dublin on Vodafone with with SGS (are you my twin??)I'm also an LFC fan in Dublin with an SGS on VF and I also have GPS issues.
Did VF ever respond to you? I've given up trying to talk to them, they really haven't a clue and don't care.
BTW, I followed the instructions on this thread to a T (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=842694&highlight=dangrayorg) and I now have fast GPS fixes and pretty good Google Navigation ability. Sure the location sometimes strays 20-40 metres off the road we are heading down but it's actually pretty good bearing in mind it's a bloody phone not a dedicated car based GPS.
I'm actually quite happy with it now
BenEadir

LiverpoolFCfan said:
Here is a post I have put up on the vodafone.IE support forum this afternoon.
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GPS issue - satellites in use, but no position

Hi everybody.
I have SM-N9005 phone, currently running Temasek V16.0.
My GPS usually works fine, however sometimes it finds the satellites and uses them but doesn't get GPS fix for a long time (actually - never, as far as my patience go, which was about 15 minutes). After rebooting the phone the GPS fix is almost instant, with no problem.
So, what can cause GPS to be unable to get a fix, while it can use the satellites. Seems to be software related as reboot makes it fine. It is not ROM related, cause I've had it on stock as well as custom ROMs. Anybody can think of a fix that doesn't require me to reboot?

No, I have given up on GPS of this phone, Snapdragon variant. As you said, rebooting the phone makes the GPS lock fast/ instant, but for normal usage sometimes GPS just won't lock. All I can gather from my personal experience is its about Assisted GPS. When you are restarting your phone the AGPS data is being downloaded automatically, that is how Android works anyway, and that's probably why the phone gets a super fast lock after a reboot. Use app like GPS Status or something to have the phone download AGPS data at short interval, see if that helps in anything or not.
However I have never had any problems when I am outside, the GPS locks within 30-45 seconds no matter what, its the inside problems which used to bug me, but as I said, I have given up.

Hm, I've never seen such a problem. I use my N9005 for travelling across Europe quite often, and it usually locks within 10 seconds to 2 minutes, depending on the location and the number of satellites.
Aside from the occasional glitch, of course. Like going backwards or sideways. :silly:
And it seems to think I'm somewhere off the coast of Norway right now. That one creeps me out quite a bit...
The thing is that when you reboot, it uses all available connections to pinpoint your location. Including your mobile data. (And WiFi if available.) So if you turn on location services right after rebooting, your approximate location is still in the cache.
Triangulation Over Data works within seconds, as opposed to the time required to lock on to the satellites in orbit when it is only allowed to use GPS. If you turn on the higher location modes, it locks much quicker. You can turn it back to GPS once your location has been established.

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The thing is that when you reboot, it uses all available connections to pinpoint your location. Including your mobile data. (And WiFi if available.) So if you turn on location services right after rebooting, your approximate location is still in the cache.
Triangulation Over Data works within seconds, as opposed to the time required to lock on to the satellites in orbit when it is only allowed to use GPS. If you turn on the higher location modes, it locks much quicker. You can turn it back to GPS once your location has been established.
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I am talking about GPS only. I use GPS Status app for a long long time (with my previous Android devices as well), so I can monitor the GPS fix. After reboot I get GPS position almost instant or sometimes I need to go into GPS status app and re-download A-GPS data (which is max 1h old, because of my settings) and then I get my fix.
When my problem occurs NOTHING (short from reboot) can get it to get a fix. I tried deleting and downloading A-GPS data, turning location on and off and from high precision to power saving - it just won't work. Of course I'll get postition from WiFi or cell towers, but GPS just won't fix, even with 12 satellites in use, after waiting over 15 minutes (which should be more then enough, cause whole GPS almanach is transmitted over 12,5 minutes and I get it from A-GPS anyway).

I would start by wiping the phone installing stock rom and testing . Still a problem then its hardware .