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I wonder if someone made some test with the Galaxy S4 using the auxiliary input of a sound with the 3.5 plug male.
I ask this because the Galaxy S3 has a reduction in sound quality when connected to an external device that it's horrible.
Compared to any other phone, the Galaxy S3 loses by this reduction of sound, requiring the installation of applications to improve a bit.
Does anybody know if the Galaxy S3 to S4 are equal in this regard?
maurobonder said:
I wonder if someone made some test with the Galaxy S4 using the auxiliary input of a sound with the 3.5 plug male.
I ask this because the Galaxy S3 has a reduction in sound quality when connected to an external device that it's horrible.
Compared to any other phone, the Galaxy S3 loses by this reduction of sound, requiring the installation of applications to improve a bit.
Does anybody know if the Galaxy S3 to S4 are equal in this regard?
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I have seen videos of everything but this kind of comparison but I can tell you this, the Galaxy S4 puts out much better sounds then the S3 and has a better chipset, odds are this will not be an issue but I can't say for sure, just my take on it.
I have my doubts because I had iphone 2G, 3G, 3GS and when I bought the Galaxy S3, the audio in car sound particularly disappointed me a lot.
And I buy the Galaxy S4, need to know if it has improved or not.
If anyone knows, I appreciate the help.
i found a article that show a few informations about this subject.
in S3 when something was connected to the output quality was reduced to 3.5 (from -92.6 to -53.1) and now in tests in S4 reduction is small (from -96.4 to -95.5) which makes me think it was resolved.
Right?
Ops. I found more information regarding these graphs is that the 9500 model has a new audio chip (Wolfson), but does not support LTE.
The i9505 that supports LTE is the same audio chip S3, so if you care about sound, it is better to opt for GS4 9500
galaxy s 4 good sound
androidlebell said:
galaxy s 4 good sound
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Did you test using external ?
It´s good ? are Sure ?
maurobonder said:
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The i9505 that supports LTE is the same audio chip S3, so if you care about sound, it is better to opt for GS4 9500
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The I9505 that supports LTE does not have the same audio chip that S3 has. S3's is Wolfson WM 1811 whilst the i9505 has built-in qualcomm based Snapdragon S4's audio chip.
And I assume you mentioned the S3's I9300 variant.
thekoRngear said:
The I9505 that supports LTE does not have the same audio chip that S3 has. S3's is Wolfson WM 1811 whilst the i9505 has built-in qualcomm based Snapdragon S4's audio chip.
And I assume you mentioned the S3's I9300 variant.
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Maybe I did mess. In short, what chip is best? Wolfson or qualcomm?
What s4 chip and each uses? i9500 and i9505?
the stock sound is alright, it's loud, that's for sure, but having come from Boffela sound on the s3, I must be spoiled because I'm left wanting more. I tried Adapt Sound, and some other sound gimmicky apps in the market, but have yet to really find anything good. ideally a 5 band hardware equalizer would be nice, but as that's not gonna happen anytime soon, anyone else have any sound tuning methods in the mean time?
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The international version of GSIII has a wolfson audio chip, the US version has a qualcomm chip. Hence the quality difference.
Considering the S4 mess with octa core support I'm not sure on what Note3 cpu model to follow... I'm tempted to get the N9000 because of the promised extra power of the cpu, also I'm living in a development country without LTE support. But previous experience with S4 cpu (currently got an I9500) is making the decision not so easy. Any input or opinion is welcomed.
Thanks.
I'm going to buy a Note 3 too and even though there is no LTE support in the country i live in, i'd prefer the reliability and core clock speed of qualcomm snapdragon 800 to the so-called octa core exynos chipset. And plus there are more roms for i9500 which is the LTE version and im thinking that this tradition will continue.
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I'm going to buy a Note 3 too and even though there is no LTE support in the country i live in, i'd prefer the reliability and core clock speed of qualcomm snapdragon 800 to the so-called octa core exynos chipset. And plus there are more roms for i9500 which is the LTE version and im thinking that this tradition will continue.
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More roms for the i9500?
surely a typo... there are far more roms for i9505 which is the Snapdragon 800 variant.
Thanks for your input.
I much prefer the Snapdragon to the Exynos setup. The Exynos solution consists of two quad-core processors, one with more processing capability and higher power requirements, one with lower (seems kind of like a less efficient version of Tegra 3's five core setup) - Having one more powerful, efficient quad core is a better solution IMO, even if they enable heterogeneous processing across both quad cores in the Exynos setup. Mobile apps will benefit from more single and lightly threaded performance than multi-threaded capability IMO.
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More roms for the i9500?
surely a typo... there are far more roms for i9505 which is the Snapdragon 800 variant.
Thanks for your input.
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Sorry i meant i9505 as i said that i liked snapdragon 800(N9005) version better.
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Sorry i meant i9505 as i said that i liked snapdragon 800(N9005) version better.
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Understood. Thanks again for the comments.
BTW, just get a Samsung Galaxy Note 3 32GB LTE (AT&T) (Unlocked) from Negri Elect. $744.50 usd, shipping 10/3.
The only issue is the waiting time to get it.
Apart from the CPU difference there is the HD video one as well.
The N9000 records at 1080p 1920x1080 while N9005 records at 4K 3840 x 2160
I think this proves that the octacore is a indeed more powerful and can handle 4K video recording.
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Apart from the CPU difference there is the HD video one as well.
The N9000 records at 1080p 1920x1080 while N9005 records at 4K 3840 x 2160
I think this proves that the octacore is a indeed more powerful and can handle 4K video recording.
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Except it's the S800 version that's able to record 4k video.. N9005 is the Snapdragon 800 version and during IFA Samsung specifically said that 4K recording was only available on the S800 variant. I find it strange that the Exynos version doesn't support it.
so which one is best for tmobile( hspa+ AND lte )? n9005? I hope so, because I'm tired of the missing exynos drivers. Snapdragon800 please
I will be getting N9005,just because of the higher CPU clock,and better development support.
s800 version not supporting non European countries sim cards?
Did you get the news guys?
This is a total mess!!
I Wonder if there is something we can do.
But are there any benchmarks to tell us more about n9000 ?
lynx2025 said:
Did you get the news guys?
This is a total mess!!
I Wonder if there is something we can do.
But are there any benchmarks to tell us more about n9000 ?
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What? That's got to be some corporate cellular pprovider money grubbing monkey business. Thanks for the heads up
I got the 9005 model and it is very stable and smoth.
When I first used it the heat generated on the back was too much. But then it settled down.
Now it heats a bit also. I did not have this experience with my last note 2.
I hope someone who has access to both devices can test for that and let us know..
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I just watched review about n9000 vs n9005
is it true that n9000 has more total ram and internal storage compare to n9005?
i have the n9005 and the internal storage is 26.36gb, i guess they tested on a pre-release/ carrier rom. Total ram is 2440mb.
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From what I've seen in terms of benchmarks the n9005 is faster. In terms of rom support I guess the S800 version will get more roms and cm.
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N9005
Snapdragon 800 - 2.3Ghz
Adreno 330 GPU
4K Video Record and Playback
LTE Support
2.4GB available RAM
N900
Exynos 5 Octa 5420 - 1.9Ghz
Mali-T628 MP6 GPU
NO 4K Video Record and Playback (I seen test video at China forum before, it confirm cannot playback the 4K video)
NO LTE Support
2.7GB available RAM
Benchmark Result
I am still cant take choice
Hi all
Now i have n900 , i feel camera not good for take picture for moving things even in sport mode , i will buy another one to my friend and i want to gave him good advice if n9005 will be better and faster , because camera is one of important thing , also he will use it replacing by his tablet that mean hard work so what you think n900 or n9005 , LTE for us not important now Fast and stability is our issue.
Exynos Vs Snapdragon
I'd love to see various benchmarks/power consumption statistics with different cores on/off.
A-7's 1 on at min clock
A-7's all 4 at max clock
A-7's overclocked/undervolted
4 A-7's and 1 A-15 all at max clock
just 4 A-15's
a single A-15 at min clock
All 8 at max clock
all 8 undervolted/overclocked
These all are necessary to know before considering the N9000.
If this info is not available, the N9005 is the clear choice.
If you see the rom support as of now the n9005 is already winning in those terms.
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Hi
This is a follow-up on this topic:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2433379
that was created before this forum existed.
My question is does the Note 3 comes with the Wolfson DAC and does it support the Apt-X codec?
I can't remember where but I read the Exynos version, as opposed to Snapdragon version, natively comes with the Wolfson DAC.
The snapdragon N9005 is the LTE/4G version
The Exynos N9000 is the 3G version
Also here are some specs drawn from the thorough review of the note 3 at GSMArena:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_3-review-996.php that show some of the differences between the 2 models:
Processor
N9005: Quad-core 2.26 GHz Krait 500 CPU, Adreno 330 GPU; Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 chipset
N9000: Quad-core 1. 9GHz Cortex-A15 & quad-core 1.3 GHz Cortex-A7, Mali-T628 MP6 GPU; Exynos 5420 chipset
Video
N9005: 2160p video recording @ 30fps, 1080p @ 60fps, 720p @ 120fps
N9000: 1080p @ 30fps; continuous autofocus and stereo sound
when it comes to connectivity, they add it also support Apt-X without mentioning either models:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_3-review-996p10.php
but if you look at unboxing videos on Youtube, you will see the Apt-X logo only shows on the LTE/4G snapdragon N9005 box,
so would I be right in deducting this below - could someone confirm?
audio
N9005: no Wolfson DAC, Apt-X support
N9000: Wolfson DAC, no Apt-X support
Thanks a lot
Beng
BenG7 said:
audio
N9005: no Wolfson DAC, Apt-X support
N9000: Wolfson DAC, no Apt-X support
Thanks a lot
Beng
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As far as I learnt, the SM N900 (the exynos one which was supposed to have HMP BUT WONT GET ) has this hardware audio codec:
Yamaha ymu 831, not the wolfson wm5110.
thekoRngear said:
As far as I learnt, the SM N900 (the exynos one which was supposed to have HMP BUT WONT GET ) has this hardware audio codec:
Yamaha ymu 831, not the wolfson wm5110.
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Thanks for the answer (will look up the Yamaha ymu 831)
What about the N9005 - any info for this model? Where did you get the info from?
BenG7 said:
Thanks for the answer (will look up the Yamaha ymu 831)
What about the N9005 - any info for this model? Where did you get the info from?
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The snapdragon uses its own solution- WCD9320 hw codec. Sorry bro, I have no idea about aptx implementation in either of these versions, sure people will come up and hopefully clear your confusion.
Snapdragon wersion is support apt-x codec. Apt-x library is in system folder.
gentillo said:
Snapdragon wersion is support apt-x codec. Apt-x library is in system folder.
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yeah, I'm aware Apt-X is a software functionality, so potentially it could be ported to any device and I'm waiting for someone to create a cwm to port this to any device... (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45830675#post45830675)
What about the Exynos version then - can anyone say?
just so everyone knows what versions are available by countries:
[URL="http://www.sammobile.com/2013/08/15/exclusive-list-of-countries-receiving-galaxy-note-iiis-exynos-5420-or-snapdragon-800-variant-sm-n9005-specs-confirmation/"]http://www.sammobile.com/2013/08/15/exclusive-list-of-countries-receiving-galaxy-note-iiis-exynos-5420-or-snapdragon-800-variant-sm-n9005-specs-confirmation/[/URL]
gentillo said:
Snapdragon wersion is support apt-x codec. Apt-x library is in system folder.
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Hello gentillo,
Do you have a BT APTX headset? If you do, did you try listening to hi rez audio files with APTX on? Notice any difference in quality over BT with your Note 3?
It's wishful thinking on my part, but I'd like to not have to use an external DAC for my JH16's custom IEM's and instead just use the headphone out of my next phone.
Any early impressions on the SQ of the Note 4's headphone out? At least in comparison to other galaxy note/s lines or any of the iphones?
I am also very interested. I use now an LG g3 for flac files, I hope note 4 will be better.
I have used the Samsung S2, S3, S4, S5, Note, Note II, and Note 3 and the headphone output has been the same on each phone. It's not that great. IT could go way louder. I am sure the Note 4 will be untouched in this department.
I believe historically the Exynos versions have better sound quality due to the wolfson DAC.
S1 and s3 international had Wolfson Dacs. Good,very good audio. S2 was yamaha- a disappointment. Aafter that all comes with snapdragon integrated Dacs but...while sound was very clean there was better implementation on others for the same SOC. Take a look at htc one m8 sound, htc mini 2 (the best sound of any smartphone) LG G3 AND...LG PAD 7.0. All of them give better audio quality despite the fact that are using the same SOC.
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From my point of view is not that important the loudness of a headphone out but the stereo crosstalk and the noise that comes with decoding/amplification of the sound. For the power you can always add an external headphone amplifier or an external dac/amplifier. But it's much easier to have a good output from the phone itself than using external solution ( USB otg+external Dacs or external amplifier with one more cable).
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S1 and s3 international had Wolfson Dacs. Good,very good audio. S2 was yamaha- a disappointment. Aafter that all comes with snapdragon integrated Dacs but...while sound was very clean there was better implementation on others for the same SOC. Take a look at htc one m8 sound, htc mini 2 (the best sound of any smartphone) LG G3 AND...LG PAD 7.0. All of them give better audio quality despite the fact that are using the same SOC.
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From my point of view is not that important the loudness of a headphone out but the stereo crosstalk and the noise that comes with decoding/amplification of the sound. For the power you can always add an external headphone amplifier or an external dac/amplifier. But it's much easier to have a good output from the phone itself than using external solution ( USB otg+external Dacs or external amplifier with one more cable).
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Yes - However the Exynos S4, Note 3 and S5 have Wolfson DACs. This is because the exynos doesn't have built in DAC like the snapdragon, so therefore they have to use a external wolfson DAC.
I know that, I owned every one of the galaxy and note phones. It was too long to post all that. After all even the S3 has 2 editions ( exynox and snapdragon) note 3, gs5. I just hope that samsung will pay more attention to the sound quality. It could be done because htc and lg did it alredy.
It seems that we have to wait for gsmarena review to see how it is. Hope to have good news...
I remember that there was an app for rooted deviced that reconfigured the Wolfson allowing for example turning on headphones pre-amp. I used it on some tablet (Asus Transformer I think, the first one) and it was quite useful.
The Note 4 that I have is the Exynos version, and it had the Wolfson WM5110 chip in it.
Comparing it to the Note 3 Exynos, the Note 4 is noticeably better than the Note 3, had much more detail in it.
and comparing it to my friend's S5, the bass on the Note 4 is not as punchy as the S5 and S5 had a slightly warmer tone to the music but I liked the Note 4 more.
Any word if the audio chip is improved on snapdragon version??
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The GSMarena review was somewhat disappointing as far as audio goes, the results were no where near as good as the G3 or IPhone 6+.
I have both the G3 and the 6+ and in terms of music playback quality the IPhone is a bit better.
Note 3 didn't have Wolfson DAC. It was Yamaha. Galaxy S used WA, S II used Yamaha, S III used WA, S IV used SD, Yamaha, Octa Core being the only variant with WA. Note 2 was WA. Note 3 was Yamaha. Note 4 still needs confirmation, with so many models and configurations (LTE CAT 4, LTE CAT 6, HSPDA+) it's hard to know. My best guess is LTE CAT 4 model (Ericsson Modem) might get WA. All the others will be SD and Yamaha.
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Note 3 didn't have Wolfson DAC. It was Yamaha. Galaxy S used WA, S II used Yamaha, S III used WA, S IV used SD, Yamaha, Octa Core being the only variant with WA. Note 2 was WA. Note 3 was Yamaha. Note 4 still needs confirmation, with so many models and configurations (LTE CAT 4, LTE CAT 6, HSPDA+) it's hard to know. My best guess is LTE CAT 4 model (Ericsson Modem) might get WA. All the others will be SD and Yamaha.
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The CAT 6 version is also Exynos (in Korea at least). AFAIK it uses a Intel LTE modem
I was using the headsets that came with my phone yesterday and they sound pretty amazing compared to the ones that came with my Note 2. I was also surprised to see that if you record a video with the headsets plugged in, it will use the mic on the headset, which is amazing for vlogging. I didn't notice that at all on my Note 2, so I'm not sure if it's a new feature or what.
I've got the Exynos version, so I'm not sure if the headphones are the same as what you'd get in North America.
Exynos variants have WM5110. Confirmed! So yeah, good audio will be definitely there once we have a custom kernel to support the DAC AMP parameter modifications.
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Audio codec in the note 4 snapdragon 805 is the WCD 9330, S5 has the WCD 9320.
klownem said:
Audio codec in the note 4 snapdragon 805 is the WCD 9330, S5 has the WCD 9320.
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Was listening to the external audio on a snapdragon version earlier ,, audio sounds louder and a bit clearer than my Note 3, not much better tho,, in fairness I was trying it in store, hardly scientific..
Apparently Note 4 doesn't have much power 0.41 volts, guess I will have to use a DAC/AMP or just double amp with my Fiio E6.
Just bought the Note 4 (Exynos chip) and just noticed some people are talking about there is a dedicated audio chip inside it ?! That make me remember that the first time I connected a headphones into my Note 4 the sound was AWESOME! (Coming from an iPhone 5s user).
So is there any benefits from that? One more thing I just saw an article about the Note 4 is the first "Android device" that supports iRig devices?!
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Its-...r-guitar-into-your-Galaxy-and-rock-out_id6277
Thanks!
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Yep wait for an awesome kernel (perseus) to be working properly with some audio mods and it'll unleash the potential of this dac
Ausboy 2011 said:
Yep wait for an awesome kernel (perseus) to be working properly with some audio mods and it'll unleash the potential of this dac
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Yeah just want to connect a guitar and record (A DREAM!!)
Thanks for the reply!
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