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Why are they crippling the us galaxy s iv?

I understand that they crippled the s3 because of issues with lte compatibility. (even though the korean version has quad exynos and lte)
However, I was under the impression samsung had worked this all out with exynos in the note 2. Also didn't either three or ee or whatever it was in the uk say they would have lte on the galaxy s iv, but only the us variant gets snapdragon? This makes absolutely no sense to me. Samsung is alienating a rather large market.
Now don't get me wrong, i am under no circumstance saying the snapdragon 600 is a bad processor, i think its really great. The gpu is really good too. However, When i think samsung, I think of exynos as its staple, built in-house samsung optimized processor. Also, i think we can all safely assume that the octa will be more powerful do to it being a real a15 quadcore (with the a7 power savers) and not just having a15 like characteristics. Furthermore the sgx 544 has been shown to be a more powerful gpu than the 320 other than not have open gl es 3.0. So i'm confused here. Is there something I'm missing? Am i the only one thinking this?
ps. Anyone hear anything about the exynos 5 quad? Why not use that?

......LTE......

americasteam said:
......LTE......
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did you bother to read what i wrote? plus http://www.phonearena.com/news/International-Samsung-Galaxy-S-4-visits-the-FCC_id40875

I'm not sure about the LTE specs, if the exynos 5 octa supports it or not but what i know is this: The snapdragon 600 will be PLENTY. It is a very very powerful processor. The only reason i'm going for the exynos 5 octa version is because it is the international version and it is the one that would get all the dev support, more roms and faster updates. But as far as performance goes? They will be identical. Nobody is crippled here

Most likely supply issues those 8 cores don't make themselves then again the lte issue could have sprung up again because this isn't a traditional processor
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samdsox said:
did you bother to read what i wrote? plus http://www.phonearena.com/news/International-Samsung-Galaxy-S-4-visits-the-FCC_id40875
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Yeah, I read what you wrote. I would assume it is in fact a limitation of LTE. Maybe they don't have a version of their current gen chip that is compatible with LTE bands used in the US.
You think Samsung wants to buy SoC from another vender?

I am a noob and a lil confused on this so bare with me please. I am dying to get this phone I live in NYC and have verizon. I take from this that the international version will not work on 4g LTE? AM I better off getting the snap dragon version(US)?

xan3x said:
I am a noob and a lil confused on this so bare with me please. I am dying to get this phone I live in NYC and have verizon. I take from this that the international version will not work on 4g LTE? AM I better off getting the snap dragon version(US)?
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The international one won't even work on verizon (it takes a sim card and is gsm. Verizon is a cdma network that just uses your esn)

samdsox said:
The international one won't even work on verizon (it takes a sim card and is gsm. Verizon is a cdma network that just uses your esn)
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Will it be able be used on anyother us network ex:att , tmobile.

Are you sure it will get dev support? I thought cyanogenmod quit developing for the international s 3 because Samsung wouldn't release some code for the exynos on the s 3 international version.
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xan3x said:
Will it be able be used on anyother us network ex:att , tmobile.
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Any gsm network...att, tmobile..etc
Any cdma carrier will not work with international phones...Verizon, sprint...etc
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When i got my Droid 4G from Verizon, i got a card in it. Was this a SIM card? I thought that is what she said it was. From what i just read here, i shouldn't need the card for Verizon.

samdsox said:
did you bother to read what i wrote? plus http://www.phonearena.com/news/International-Samsung-Galaxy-S-4-visits-the-FCC_id40875
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It says in that article that the international one has LTE Band 5.
Look at the list of band frequencies : http://www.radio-electronics.com/info/cellulartelecomms/lte-long-term-evolution/lte-frequency-spectrum.php
This is the European band (around 800-850mhz).
If you look here :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
It shows that alot of europe uses LTE 800, and alot of japan uses LTE 850. This is even further confirmed by the fact that Italy is confirmed to get the OCTA version, and 2/3 of their major networks use 800mhz LTE.
However, I have reason to doubt this article. It says the T-mobile version uses Band 15. Band 15 is 1900MHz. T-mobile LTE uses AWS (1700/2100, AWS band). It makes way more sense to assume that the Snapdragon version contains AWS LTE band 4 (this would cover all of Canada and most of the US)
Hope this helps clear a few things up.
TLDR ; Exynos HAS LTE, but only the European band

Warrimonk said:
It says in that article that the international one has LTE Band 5.
Look at the list of band frequencies : http://www.radio-electronics.com/info/cellulartelecomms/lte-long-term-evolution/lte-frequency-spectrum.php
This is the European band (around 800-850mhz).
If you look here :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
It shows that alot of europe uses LTE 800, and alot of japan uses LTE 850. This is even further confirmed by the fact that Italy is confirmed to get the OCTA version, and 2/3 of their major networks use 800mhz LTE.
However, I have reason to doubt this article. It says the T-mobile version uses Band 15. Band 15 is 1900MHz. T-mobile LTE uses AWS (1700/2100, AWS band). It makes way more sense to assume that the Snapdragon version contains AWS LTE band 4 (this would cover all of Canada and most of the US)
Hope this helps clear a few things up.
TLDR ; Exynos HAS LTE, but only the European band
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thanks that makes alot more sense. It's just too bad samsung didn't use a seperate modem or plan for that in advance.

Just remember that the snapdragon will be a plus for development. As many developers have sworn off the exynos chip
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zelendel said:
Just remember that the snapdragon will be a plus for development. As many developers have sworn off the exynos chip
Wayne Tech S-III
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Yeah, that's the one thing the us version has going for it. Not sure but i thought i saw a post from one of those developers that they would not develop for either though...hoping it was just that one.

Snapdragon 600:
Four Krait 300 cores
Adreno 320 graphics
Exynos 5 Octa:
Cortex-A15
Cortex-A7 CPUs w/
PowerVR SGX544MP3 graphics
Any T-Mobile folks thinking about ordering the International instead of the TM release?
Hmmm....decisions decisions....

conrat2000 said:
When i got my Droid 4G from Verizon, i got a card in it. Was this a SIM card? I thought that is what she said it was. From what i just read here, i shouldn't need the card for Verizon.
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That card is to access verizons LTE networks ....its not a sim like att/tmobile

Will people quit posting worthless threads about the processor already!? The snapdragon is going to be better in reality because it clocks faster and wastes much less battery combined with lte. Plus, developers hate exynos and won't develope for it.
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barondebxl said:
I'm not sure about the LTE specs, if the exynos 5 octa supports it or not but what i know is this: The snapdragon 600 will be PLENTY. It is a very very powerful processor. The only reason i'm going for the exynos 5 octa version is because it is the international version and it is the one that would get all the dev support, more roms and faster updates. But as far as performance goes? They will be identical. Nobody is crippled here
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I would assume the us version would get more support from developers such as CM since samsung won't release the codes of the exynos based processors, hence not being able to run it up to its full potential. So with the S600 that shouldn't be the case. No?
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S4 Octa-core Version on USA LTE

We know Octa S4 can have LTE on it, But will it have USA LTE BANDS? Will the International LTE version work on ATT or tmobile?
Who would like octa s4 LTE work with USA LTE bands? How would it work, if it support either att or tmobile LTE?

well Samsung said OCTA-CORE (I9500) will come with LTE Support? it was just said that Exynos chip do supports LTE, but they will not add LTE Chip or whatever it's called in I9500, although i would like to see LTE Version for everyone, one model is better than two different variants

tvp480 said:
We know Octa S4 can have LTE on it, But will it have USA LTE BANDS? Will the International LTE version work on ATT or tmobile?
Who would like octa s4 LTE work with USA LTE bands? How would it work, if it support either att or tmobile LTE?
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i9500 does not have an LTE modem (although it would support a LTE modem, if Samsung decided to add one). So no, you can't have LTE with the i9500

Well guys Samsung made one but it's Korea only. samsung is not releasing it for the whole world because they can't produce so many octa chips. Here is a link confirming it. Hit thanks please
http://m.mobot.net/exynos-5-octa-support-lte-exclusively-korea-55024

_MrAwesome_ said:
Well guys Samsung made one but it's Korea only. samsung is not releasing it for the whole world because they can't produce so many octa chips. Here is a link confirming it. Hit thanks please
http://m.mobot.net/exynos-5-octa-support-lte-exclusively-korea-55024
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I hate it when people ask for thanks....especially when they really didn't even do anything - you shouldn't do.stuff on xda looking to raise that thanks bar...just do them to be helpful and if people find you helpful then they will thank you...simple as that
asking for thanks just makes you look desperate in my opinion
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_MrAwesome_ said:
Well guys Samsung made one but it's Korea only. samsung is not releasing it for the whole world because they can't produce so many octa chips. Here is a link confirming it. Hit thanks please
http://m.mobot.net/exynos-5-octa-support-lte-exclusively-korea-55024
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mg2195 said:
I hate it when people ask for thanks....especially when they really didn't even do anything - you shouldn't do.stuff on xda looking to raise that thanks bar...just do them to be helpful and if people find you helpful then they will thank you...simple as that
asking for thanks just makes you look desperate in my opinion
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I agree about this begging for thanks thing...
i guess when you only have 4 thanks, you get desperate...but that's really no excuse.

tvp480 said:
Who would like octa s4 LTE work with USA LTE bands?
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i would. glad i could help answer your question for you lol.
you can forget the thanks, my ePeen is big enough, just hit up that Donation button i got over <<<< ^^
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LAtin America S4
What variant will the LAtin America S4 have? And will the Korean version work on AT&T HSPA+21 ?

South and Latin America are getting the non LTE version. The only market (announced) getting the Octa with LTE is Korean and not even all of that market since the LTE variation is being made for a specific carrier if I understand it correctly.

I hear that korean version has issues with sms in NA since their software is a bit different. The octa shouldn't be worth importing the device... The snapdragon 600 it still a great performer and you won't notice real world performance difference. Benches are going to be better but are you buying your phone for benchmarking or to use it?

US or international

What should we order an international model or us. Yes im verizon and us. Only reason i ask ... i have the note 4 and the roms are mostly f and g variant which are india and europe. Anyone else getting the earbuds with the preorder promo?

The US bootloader won't be unlockable.

LoliSmith said:
The US bootloader won't be unlockable.
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Isnt that whats been said about almost every samsung phone?

You have 1 choice as always with Verizon. You get the Verizon version like always.

How do you even pre-order the international version? On the samsung site all I see are the carrier branded ones.

happy2472 said:
Isnt that whats been said about almost every samsung phone?
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When was the last US Samung Galaxy device unlockable?

US because I'm sure the S8 will support the international U model firmware like the S7

kennonk said:
How do you even pre-order the international version? On the samsung site all I see are the carrier branded ones.
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You can order it here, and they ship worldwide and are reputable:
https://www.unlocked-mobiles.com/sim-free-mobile-phones/samsung-galaxy-s8-plus-sim-free-p-87505.html

happy2472 said:
What should we order an international model or us. Yes im verizon and us.
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I'm pretty sure you'll have to get the Verizon model as Verizon is a CDMA network and the international model is GSM and won't work (it'd work on AT&T and T-Mobile as they are GSM networks). Even if it did work you'd have to consider what frequencies/bands the international model supports vs what your carrier uses (and it seems that's not been specified yet, at least not on GSMArena, unless all versions supports all the same frequencies/bands).

samteeee said:
You can order it here, and they ship worldwide and are reputable:
https://www.unlocked-mobiles.com/sim-free-mobile-phones/samsung-galaxy-s8-plus-sim-free-p-87505.html
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Interesting only black and that feminine mauve colour (grey my ass).
I wonder where the silver and gold versions are being sold?
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samteeee said:
You can order it here, and they ship worldwide and are reputable:
https://www.unlocked-mobiles.com/sim-free-mobile-phones/samsung-galaxy-s8-plus-sim-free-p-87505.html
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NM, I tried to do a fake purchase and wasn't able to get them to ship to US, only UK.

RMXO said:
http://www.samsung.com/uk/smartphon...leMbCEOhBmuFF5g3q25kJViXEB_OCKvPx4F5TRnE4ljMO
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Do they ship to the US?

LoliSmith said:
Do they ship to the US?
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nope, my bad, i should of checked before posting.

So the International model with the Exynos chip does not have CDMA radios/modems, correct?

LoliSmith said:
So the International model with the Exynos chip does not have CDMA radios/modems, correct?
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We already covered this in another thread no?
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happy2472 said:
What should we order an international model or us. Yes im verizon and us. Only reason i ask ... i have the note 4 and the roms are mostly f and g variant which are india and europe. Anyone else getting the earbuds with the preorder promo?
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Samsung pay wont work on International

johnwayne27 said:
Samsung pay wont work on International
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Yes true.
Good thing i dont use it...hell i dont even know if we have it in canada lol.
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force70 said:
We already covered this in another thread no?
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No.

Listen everyone if you cant reply with a positive response or helpful then please dont reply at all.

I'd be careful
I am still looking into comparing the US Snapdragon variant of the Samsung Galaxy S8+ vs the International variant with the Exynos chip. I will say the Exynos chip usually works a lot better than the snapdragon on a samsung phone. Which makes sense since it is a Samsung chip. The real world speed tests for the Exynos and benchmark tests usually outdo the snapdragon.
With that said, frequency bands need to be compared. Because obviously the international variant will not work for Sprint or Verizon. Furthermore, there are LTE bands to worry about for T-Mobile and AT&T. And I can not seem to verify the bands for the international variant. From what I remember for the S7 International variant, there was no LTE band 12 which T-Mobile uses for their new LTE band. It didn't matter much before but now this band is being used for low-band spectrum which is for inside buildings and rural long distance connections. This band is expanding.
Therefore, I want to first see the real word speed tests (because snapdragon upped their game a bit) and confirm the frequency bands which seems to be harder than I thought. Frequencycheck seems to think the INternational variant has Band 12 but are they reliable this early?
Anyway, can anyone confirm the LTE bands for the International G955F variant? Maybe I need to search in German or French.

definitive FACTS on all s8 variants

I bought a Verizon SM-G950UZKAVZW direct from Samsung. I thought that I was buying a phone that I could take to any carrier. I'm hearing that might not be true. Does anyone have definitive, confirmed specs ie supported radio bands on all of the carrier variants as well as the upcoming intl version? Also I heard other reports that the hardware is identical and it's firmware that is limiting the phones. Not sure if that is true either. Samsung was absolutely not helpful.
Bottom line I need to know:
1 if I keep the SM-G950UZKAVZW, will I be able to use it with other carrier networks?
2 if I can use the SM-G950UZKAVZW with other carriers, what actions (if any) would I need to take to do that? (Other than swapping a sim card)
3 would the phone I currently possess be limited in any way if I were to use it with other carriers? (Limited is defined here as "performing differently in contrast to that carriers native S8 model variant") if so, specifically how would it be limited?
4 if I were to purchase an unlocked international model once it becomes available, would that phone be limited in any way when used on any US carrier? (Limited is again defined here as "performing differently in contrast to that carriers native S8 model variant") if so, specifically how?
If you aren't sure, please don't reply. There's plenty of people documenting their best guess already. I'm looking for the straight story.
Thanks for reading!

All of Verizon phones are Sim card unlocked and since there is really only 1 version of the S8/S8+ in the US (with different model #'s corresponding to the different carriers) using the phone on another carriers network is not going to be an issue. All you need to do is insert the sim card in.
http://www.gottabemobile.com/how-to-unlock-the-galaxy-s8/
As a quick note, if you have a Verizon Galaxy S8 congratulations. Your phone is already unlocked. Verizon Wireless no longer locks phones, regardless of what you might hear from friends or family. Simply drop a T-Mobile or AT&T SIM card in a Verizon model and it works. It may require manually configuring the APN settings though, so keep that in mind.
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The ONLY exception that might be would be Sprint since they are CDMA as well, but who really wants to go from Verizon to Sprint?????
All 4 Major US(and subsequent sub carriers) are receiving the same version of the phone(meaning same internals). From my understanding, inserting the carriers Sim card into the verizon phone just means you start going at that point and have access to all the carriers bands
If you got an international version, it most likely would be powered by an Exynos CPU vs the Snapdragon 835 so there would be some performance differences (typically Exynos models perform marginally better based on previous history)
If you're looking for a US unlocked model - wait until next month
http://www.theverge.com/circuitbrea...-unlocked-galaxy-s8-plus-pricing-release-date

I appreciate your clear response! Would it be accurate to say that I will have just as much freedom to hop from one carrier to another using the phone I have, as opposed to purchasing the upcoming US unlocked variant?
Also, I have heard the same thing about the hardware, that all of the carrier variants are the same physical model. But some folks, including the Samsung tech support rep I spoke to (unfortunately that probably doesn't mean a whole lot) seem to think that the carrier firmware is limiting the radio bands. Do you know this to be false?

I have the Verizon version and works fine on Tmo out of the box. Have to use Verizon update software through Windows though. OTA's will never come through.

I am using Verizon GS8 on att, it works but I only get HSPA mostly. No LTE, so band is definitely capped by firmware.
I didn't have any issue receiving ota with att sim in vzw gs8

I saw a review that said the s8 gets locked to the first carrier sim it accepts. Can someone confirm swapping sims of different carriers works?

Whanksta said:
I am using Verizon GS8 on att, it works but I only get HSPA mostly. No LTE, so band is definitely capped by firmware.
I didn't have any issue receiving ota with att sim in vzw gs8
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Have you tried going into the network band menu and locking it to one of the AT&T LTE bands?
This still works on the S8 (found this on the S7 and used it to lock my S7 to band 4 for Tmobile)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/tm...ng-network-t3331555/post65722081#post65722081

ElBeaner said:
Have you tried going into the network band menu and locking it to one of the AT&T LTE bands?
This still works on the S8 (found this on the S7 and used it to lock my S7 to band 4 for Tmobile)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/tm...ng-network-t3331555/post65722081#post65722081
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I am unable to access the service menu via the S7 method

Whanksta said:
I am unable to access the service menu via the S7 method
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Ok forgot you were Verizon - you have to edit a setting because they block you from that access
Try this if you're daring enough
https://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s6/general/enabling-using-servicemode-t3109579
EDIT Damn, looks like you have to be rooted first
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I am unable to access the service menu via the S7 method
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You'll need to wait unti the official AT&T rom is available from Smasung and then you should be able to flash it via ODIN onto the phone and get all the AT&T carrier bands

mredamon said:
I bought a Verizon SM-G950UZKAVZW direct from Samsung. I thought that I was buying a phone that I could take to any carrier. I'm hearing that might not be true. Does anyone have definitive, confirmed specs ie supported radio bands on all of the carrier variants as well as the upcoming intl version? Also I heard other reports that the hardware is identical and it's firmware that is limiting the phones. Not sure if that is true either. Samsung was absolutely not helpful.
Bottom line I need to know:
4 if I were to purchase an unlocked international model once it becomes available, would that phone be limited in any way when used on any US carrier? (Limited is again defined here as "performing differently in contrast to that carriers native S8 model variant") if so, specifically how?
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Once it becomes available? You can buy Exynos right now from other countries. Clove in UK will region unlock the phone before shipping to you in the U.S. What needs to become available?
Don't confuse the "unlocked" S8 Samsung will sell here in the U.S. in a month or so with the Exynos international variant. The "unlocked" S8 coming to the U.S. is still the bootloader locked Snapdragon version, just without carrier branding. It will be carrier unlocked but not bootloader unlocked. If you care about rooting, TWRP, ROMs, etc Exynos is what you want.
would that (Exynos international variant) phone be limited in any way when used on any US carrier?
(Limited is again defined here as "performing differently in contrast to that carriers native S8 model variant") if so, specifically how?
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NO, except if you are on CDMA-handicapped Sprint or Verizon. If you use Sprint or Verizon be aware Exynos doesn't have 3G CDMA bands to fall back on if you can't get LTE. For AT&T or T-Mobile, YES it has all the LTE/HSPA/GSM bands.
The "international" Exynos variant can be bootloader unlocked, rooted, etc. so tons of advantages. While it has Verizon LTE bands, there's no CDMA. This means you really need Verizon VoLTE to work and I don't have the answer to that. And if you can't get LTE signal on mobile network, you won't have any signal due to no CDMA fallback. Again, only an issue because of CDMA if you stay on Verizon instead of using AT&T or T-mobile (or their network affiliates). You seem like you want to switch to another carrier? So, go ahead and do so!
EXYNOS VARIANTS LTE BANDS:
LTE Bands: FDD: B1(2100), B2(1900), B3(1800), B4(AWS), B5(850), B7(2600), B8(900), B12(700), B13(700), B17(700), B18(800), B19(800), B20(800), B25(1900), B26(800), B28(700), B32(1500), B66(AWS- 3) | TDD: B38(2600), B39(1900), B40(2300), B41(2500)
GSM/GPRS
850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 MHz
3G/HSPA
850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 MHz

ChazzMatt said:
Once it becomes available? You can buy Exynos right now from other countries. Clove in UK will region unlock the phone before shipping to you in the U.S. What needs to become available?
Don't confuse the "unlocked" S8 Samsung will sell here in the U.S. in a month or so with the Exynos international variant. The "unlocked" S8 coming to the U.S. is still the bootloader locked Snapdragon version, just without carrier branding. It will be carrier unlocked but not bootloader unlocked. If you care about rooting, TWRP, ROMs, etc Exynos is what you want. /QUOTE]
Yeah I screwed up. I did confuse them.
I'm not interested in all that rooting stuff I just want a phone that pretty much works anywhere I want to take it and if it's slower on one network than another I wanna know what I'm getting myself into.
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Whanksta said:
I am using Verizon GS8 on att, it works but I only get HSPA mostly. No LTE, so band is definitely capped by firmware.
I didn't have any issue receiving ota with att sim in vzw gs8
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Hey guys
I'm from Brazil and I wanna buy the Verizon's S8 but I'm afraid about the 4G.
I saw that this model has the Brazil LTE frequencies, but I read here that Verizon capped the band from the firmware.
Somebody knows if I could flash via ODIN the unlocked rom that will come with the unlocked version in USA and so get the LTE free to use in any place?
I don't want to assume the risk to have a top mobile phone but don't be able to use 4G.
Thank you very much guys

Hey mredamon. Did you ever get a clear response here or somewhere else about this?

Those of you on T-Mobile with Exynos phones, how are the speeds and coverage?

I'm really tempted to return my SD S8 and get an Exynos.
I had an Exynos S7 before and signal coverage was absolute **** in my area. Even though all 3 T-Mobile bands were supported, it was just ****. The speeds were **** and the experience was ****.
It's a lot better on my T-Mobile S8 but that flashing itch is still there, I don't want this locked bootloader.
Has the Exynos S8 improved any?

Interceptor777 said:
I'm really tempted to return my SD S8 and get an Exynos.
I had an Exynos S7 before and signal coverage was absolute **** in my area. Even though all 3 T-Mobile bands were supported, it was just ****. The speeds were **** and the experience was ****.
It's a lot better on my T-Mobile S8 but that flashing itch is still there, I don't want this locked bootloader.
Has the Exynos S8 improved any?
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Bands vary by region. The UK and I'm guessing EU versions don't support Band 12 which is T-Mobile's low frequency bands. Low frequency helps with distance and obstructions. That would explain why you got ***** performance. You need an Exynos device with band 12 if one exists.
In terms of carrier vs. Exynos my UK S8 gets better LTE speeds than the AT&T branded S8 I was using on their network for two weeks before its UK replacement arrived. The only AT&T band the EU phones don't have is band 30 which is high frequency and not widely deployed so not as necessary as band 12 on T-Mobile.

BarryH_GEG said:
Bands vary by region. The UK and I'm guessing EU versions don't support Band 12 which is T-Mobile's low frequency bands. Low frequency helps with distance and obstructions. That would explain why you got ***** performance. You need an Exynos device with band 12 if one exists.
In terms of carrier vs. Exynos my UK S8 gets better LTE speeds than the AT&T branded S8 I was using on their network for two weeks before its UK replacement arrived. The only AT&T band the EU phones don't have is band 30 which is high frequency and not widely deployed so not as necessary as band 12 on T-Mobile.
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I had all the bands that T-Mobile needed. 2, 4 and 12 and were all functioning. Speeds and signal were still ****. I just want to know if anyone is having issues with the S8.

Interceptor777 said:
I had all the bands that T-Mobile needed. 2, 4 and 12 and were all functioning. Speeds and signal were still ****. I just want to know if anyone is having issues with the S8.
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Having the 950FD on T-mobile and not noticing any issues. The only issue I've encountered is mms while roaming but that's because no Wi-Fi calling.

TehPirate_ said:
Having the 950FD on T-mobile and not noticing any issues. The only issue I've encountered is mms while roaming but that's because no Wi-Fi calling.
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Are you getting band 12 with t-mobile?
Where did you purchase your 950fd from and what region is it?
Thanks

talroot said:
Are you getting band 12 with t-mobile?
Where did you purchase your 950fd from and what region is it?
Thanks
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I have all T-mobiles bands, including 12 and 66.
I purchased it from an eBay seller and country of origin is Singapore.

TehPirate_ said:
I have all T-mobiles bands, including 12 and 66.
I purchased it from an eBay seller and country of origin is Singapore.
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Which seller please, if you don't mind me asking.

talroot said:
Which seller please, if you don't mind me asking.
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never-msrp. They strive for 5 star rating and go above and beyond to help you the best they can.

TehPirate_ said:
never-msrp. They strive for 5 star rating and go above and beyond to help you the best they can.
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Thank you.
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Is it the dual sim exynos model?

Is it possible to install Tmobile Rom on Exynos S8???
I need WiFi Calling but want to root. My snapdragon doesn't have root and who knows when it will come.

bighit101 said:
Is it possible to install Tmobile Rom on Exynos S8???
I need WiFi Calling but want to root. My snapdragon doesn't have root and who knows when it will come.
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You can't install a snapdragon based Rom on an exynos based phone. You can flash a CSC that enables Wi-Fi calling in the exynos phone with root. Search the forums, there's been a couple posts about it for the S8