Eldar Murtazin states that due to factory defects, the general availability of the Xperia Z2 is delayed until end of 2nd quarter. Apparently the issue has to do with the screen.
twitter.com/eldarmurtazin/status/450584042283749378
"Sony in its repertoire - in z2 found three factory defect. Issue moved to the end of the 2nd quarter. Save on all components"
* sorry, I still can't post external links.
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Eldar Murtazin states that due to factory defects, the general availability of the Xperia Z2 is delayed until end of 2nd quarter. Apparently the issue has to do with the screen.
twitter.com/eldarmurtazin/status/450584042283749378
"Sony in its repertoire - in z2 found three factory defect. Issue moved to the end of the 2nd quarter. Save on all components"
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Oh I saw that Edgar Murtazin is often spreading untrue rumours.......
Hope this is one untrue rumour then
That doesn't make much sense. That would insinuate sony is admitting existing already manufactured stock that's going out to pre-orderers has known defects in them. If that were true there's no way that would be in an article/report
paddylaz said:
That doesn't make much sense. That would insinuate sony is admitting existing already manufactured stock that's going out to pre-orderers has known defects in them. If that were true there's no way that would be in an article/report
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Makes sense if rumours that say initial release is delayed until mid-may come true, time enough to fix the preordered units. At present time this is nothing but a rumour, but coming from Murtazin you never know...
He has got some stuff right in the past obviously so you have to give him some credibility for that. I read that 4.4.3 is going to release in the first half of April, that would make for some interesting timing in that regard as well.
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That doesn't make much sense. That would insinuate sony is admitting existing already manufactured stock that's going out to pre-orderers has known defects in them. If that were true there's no way that would be in an article/report
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And Sony would lose its brand value, there's no way Sony would want that.
I suspect the guy is paid by Samsung.
Wouldn't second quarter be June!? That would be terrible!
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I spoke today with Sony mobile Store customer service about my pre-order and they said they will be shipping from the 15th April...:silly:
Publicglutton said:
I spoke today with Sony mobile Store customer service about my pre-order and they said they will be shipping from the 15th April...:silly:
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Good news! As we were concerned about the matter, we've also been talking today with a Sony sales rep and he told us that:
- They will start shipments on April 14.
- They will serve preorders first, then new orders placed. Supposedly regular sales will be opened from Sony's website that same day.
- They never expected such high demand, but we were assured that there will be no delays.
And besides, the Sony store is closed for maintenance. Maybe preparing sales campaign?
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And Sony would lose its brand value, there's no way Sony would want that.
I suspect the guy is paid by Samsung.
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Samsung Galaxy S5 launch – 18.00. Barcelona. 23 February. Price the same. Launch – end of April. Specs – u know them new touchwiz
— Eldar Murtazin (@eldarmurtazin) January 21, 2014
he s not reliable !
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- They never expected such high demand, but we were assured that there will be no delays.
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That's pretty poor for Sony if true. Seems they weren't actually willing to commit too much money to getting large scale production going then.
In recent years, Apple, Samsung and others will have gone all in on a new flagship. If demand was lower, the stock will still be sold over time through new advertising campaigns, or if necessary, a price cut (less applicable to Apple on the price cut mind).
If Sony has been cautious, it makes me wonder why. When they announced it, we got all the press releases from the carriers saying they'd be selling it. It stands to reason, they'll be getting large orders in.
But, now that more and more places are reporting a delay, I have to assume that some people saying it's still on target simply weren't told yet. It does look like the news of the delay is coming from Sony in an official capacity.
I actually think Eldar might be right on this. His success rate has fallen a lot over the years, and he's certainly someone who holds a grudge against many manufacturers that stopped feeding him early production devices to do 300 page reviews on, but he clearly does still have some good contacts who give him inside information - if not the actual hardware itself.
One of the online retailers said that they are getting the Taiwan version of the Z2 in mainland in China and they already have the Z2 for the China region.
Since I want google play store I will have to stick with the Taiwan or Hong Kong. So I don't think that they will push it that back and I am pretty sure they are starting to sell the device.
Here's the link if you're interested in getting this device. But he's in China for sure.
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z0d.6639537.0.0.ou6KNk&id=37488089756
screen issues
Screen issues could well be a problem to cause delay
I have a (prototype) Z2 and even with 'Glove Mode' off, the screen will work with gloves on
it will also work with a wad of tissues over the end of my finger
and worst of all it will still respond and start apps etc when the SONY Style book type cover is closed!
very annoying having to turn off screen before closing the flap.
With glove mode enabled ....maybe a gentle puff of air may even work!!!!!!
Could firmware fix this?
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Bell ( Canda Carrier ) confirm exclusive release date for May :
http://mobilesyrup.com/2014/04/01/sony-xperia-z2-coming-to-bell-in-may-as-an-exclusive/
Spanish carrier Yoigo announces availability on April 25. I assume they have stock enough.
T-Mobile NL will be the first retailer to start selling it in the Netherlands and i can confirm that it is delayed to week 20 (12-05).
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i dont know about other retailers, but i just got this clove.co.uk email!
this is ridiculous! i cancelling my order!
"We have been informed today, by Sony Ericsson that the first of the Sony XPERIA X1 units have been delayed until the end of October"
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i dont know about other retailers, but i just got this clove.co.uk email!
this is ridiculous! i cancelling my order!
"We have been informed today, by Sony Ericsson that the first of the Sony XPERIA X1 units have been delayed until the end of October"
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I recieved the same email as well..
Wow, that sucks. Even SE reps said clove.co.uk would be the first retailer to ship unlocked units to customers as soon as tomorrow! I wonder what the issue is now, most likely either a major software malfunction or they shipped the wrong units that don't have 384MB of ram
dont expect to get it at end of October!
i getting used to SE lies!
i expect when end of October comes, new date is end of November!
Hope they still annouce the US version on the 3rd then.
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Hope they still annouce the US version on the 3rd then.
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ya. announce on 11/3/08.
real date on store, summer 2009? haha
Time to let Sony Ericsson hear your thoughts... start out with Xperiancers (run by a SE team including Magnus)...
I just posted this comment on their launch post: (hopefully they will reply)
Hi,
Clove has sent out e-mails that SE has delayed Xperia till the end of the month and thus it won't be available now. Is this true? if so, then it really sucks!
The set was "officialy" launched on the 30th of last month. Over 10 days later, still no final Xperia device has been seen, and no store is yet offering it on sale - i.e. having it in stock.
Furthermore, there is not a single page that details the entire specifications of Xperia in detail. The whitepaper that was recently linked to on Xperiancers was also from back in May. Does Sony Ericsson even know how to market their phones and how to detail them? Because from where i'm sitting, Johnny X seems to be the only marketing campaign at the moment and it is completely useless.
Over a month back i was determined to purchase Touch Pro... then i switched to Xperia and decided to wait. But now i am getting really impatient with Sony Ericsson and lack of any final device reviews and availability and this after 2 weeks of the "supposed" launch of Xperia.
Is there any chance that Xperia will be actually launched/availble within this week or early next? Or is it actually delayed?
I have to say that i am extremely disappointed in Sony Ericsson at this point and have pretty much lost confident in it. Even the demonstration video by Xperiancers done a few days back is on a prototype/non-final device which is what the demonstrator continuously states at the start and end of the demonstration.. Maybe i should just go for some other smartphone?
Hopefully you'll have enough decency to supply us with an insight on when actually will Xperia be available. I don't care about where it will be available - may it be UK or on a remote island - but just tell us WHEN WILL XPERIA BE ACTUALLY AVAILABLE?!?!?!?!?
Best Regards.
Salman Khalid.
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Time to let Sony Ericsson hear your thoughts... start out with Xperiancers (run by a SE team including Magnus)...
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y even bother with that site! they LIE just like SE!
"X1 is shipped on 9/30/2008 from factory as scheduled!". (not exact quote, but something like that).
Actually it probably has shipped but my guess is that it has gone to the carriers (Voda, O2 - maybe Orange - lol!). The carriers do not bring it out straight away as they are busy branding the phones with their sh*t - Orange and Voda are well known for that (Orange will even drop a phone if it can't put its software on to it).
O2 as far as I know don't brand it too heavily - hence why they may well be the first carrier out with it on Monday ( I have already seen adverts in Oxford Street). The carriers take priority and then the online outlets get their slice later....
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O2 as far as I know don't brand it too heavily - hence why they may well be the first carrier out with it on Monday ( I have already seen adverts in Oxford Street). The carriers take priority and then the online outlets get their slice later....
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what make u so sure it will appear on Monday?
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Actually it probably has shipped but my guess is that it has gone to the carriers (Voda, O2 - maybe Orange - lol!). The carriers do not bring it out straight away as they are busy branding the phones with their sh*t - Orange and Voda are well known for that (Orange will even drop a phone if it can't put its software on to it).
O2 as far as I know don't brand it too heavily - hence why they may well be the first carrier out with it on Monday ( I have already seen adverts in Oxford Street). The carriers take priority and then the online outlets get their slice later....
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You know, i think you are right... i have seen O2 claims that it'll be launching Xperia early next week and Vodafone is slated to release it by the 17th.
So maybe, it is stores such as Clove or Expansys that are delayed.
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You know, i think you are right... i have seen O2 claims that it'll be launching Xperia early next week and Vodafone is slated to release it by the 17th.
So maybe, it is stores such as Clove or Expansys that are delayed.
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so is clove or expansys, they claiming to have it on week 10/6/2008,
then next week.
now is end of october,
and then it will be november!
i really getting tired of SE LIES!
Me too, it doesn´t make any sens to wait for this for phone I will skip it, the only thng that SE can s to delay this this phone every week, time to wait for another phone
I still believe the swedish release date will be tomorrow. I'll be informed tomorrow morning IF it has been released and maybe I can try it out for a couple of minutes.
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so is clove or expansys, they claiming to have it on week 10/6/2008,
then next week.
now is end of october,
and then it will be november!
i really getting tired of SE LIES!
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As far as i know, Expansys, Clove and other such sites have been delaying. But those launching against a network - like Vodafone or O2 - they are staying steady on their launch date.
Update:
Just got this from Clove - after i sent 'em an e-mail inquiring about the availability for Xperia. I also sent one to Expansys and will post their response too when they send it:
"Hi Salman, we have received news today that the release of the X1 has now been delayed until the end of this month. However, we have been assured that we will be among those receiving the first models once it is released. If you would like to place a backorder now you will be in the priority queue for a device. However, we will not charge your card for the order until the machines are in stock and ready to be shipped."
Now this here is a big concern for me... as i was looking forward to purchase Xperia within next week. Now it seems that it won't be available.
I would have probably waited longer, but phones don't come to Pakistan that quick after they are available, and my window for purchasing was via my brother who is travelling to UAE next week. Now i'm back to the same question; "To wait or not to wait? Xperia or some other?"
Update 2: But see, this guy gives me hope...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=434822
thankfully my existing contract doesnt run out till march. Im still gettin an X1 as soon as they come out, ill just pay my contract off
Xperia is definitely launched in Sweden... When will it be available at clove or expansys? i don't know, but i'm certain that networks will be launching as planned.
Sounds as if it was an extremely limited stock that was released to Sweden though. To be honest I think they were still making some last minute changes in the face of known deficiencies - for instance on one recent video the reviewer said it came with the SPB Shell Panel, whereas MR's review unit did not have this.
Spb panel must be downloaded from SE`s website. (It is free.) It is not pre-installed on the device.
Thats what I thought, but not according to the video where he says it was pre-installed... Who the heck really knows, waaay too much conflicting information around this phone (theres a lesson in there for you SE).
Well, Clove apparently have sent email about the delay of DHD release till the end of the month, and said all sellers will face the same problem due to Google Testing (which I have no idea what is the point). Anyways, everyone should start to STOP waiting as things will be better when you least expect them, agree?
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Well, Clove apparently have sent email about the delay of DHD release till the end of the month, and said all sellers will face the same problem due to Google Testing (which I have no idea what is the point). Anyways, everyone should start to STOP waiting as things will be better when you least expect them, agree?
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Absolutely. Of course we're all looking forward to receiving our new Desire's of the HD form factor... but the wait is almost quite exciting - just keep checking those email inboxes for 'Your Order Has Been Dispatched!'
Not to mention I have come to the conclusion that I have far more important things going on in my life... like 'life' itself.
It'll arrive within 26 days, we know that much at least!
I'm waiting for amazon to confirm it and so far they have denied it.
So hope is still alive
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Clove is far more likely to be right about this than amazon. Sorry
I spoke to someone at Vodafone this morning, and they haven't heard of any delay.
It's possible the rumours that the carriers are getting them first is true. For the sake of 5 days or so I'd rather wait for the Sim-Free handset I'll get rather than the branded version from Vodafone.
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It's possible the rumours that the carriers are getting them first is true. For the sake of 5 days or so I'd rather wait for the Sim-Free handset I'll get rather than the branded version from Vodafone.
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True. If I get one via Carphone Warehouse, it should be unbranded shouldn't it? Really don't want a branded phone.
If carriers are getting the phones before sim unlocked ones are out, then that's still good news because we'll have users here who can give us their impressions. All i want is someone here who can answer all our questions and doubts about the phone.
My provider delayed the phone till the 22nd of october. It was the 18th.
Confirmation from Superetrader
Just got this e-mail from superetrader saying that the DHD will be delay until mid to end of the month.
See attachment for the e-mail
lol vodafone branding doesn't mean its locked just has some branded software installed, and a bit of rooting can fix that!
Carriers have usually got the phones first, not sure if this was the plan all along. Looks like the DHD with Vodafone will be the awesome black one. Any chance of these being unbranded/full of junkware? Would love to pick one up after seeing a few reviews..
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Clove is far more likely to be right about this than amazon. Sorry
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Based on what? I've been a phone freak for years and i've never heard of them. Amazon are the biggest online retailer in the world and indeed they posted the HD on there site BEFORE it was announced. So sorry, but I'd trust Amazon over a site i've not heard of.
No one else has heard of a delay and none of the gadget/Andriod blogs are reporting one either. Play have jumped the date by a week. But other than that there is no news of a delay (even Google News aren't reporting one)
Added to which most of us had never even heard of "Google testing" until yesterday. Anyway whats to test? the hardware is pretty much the EVO and the software (although slightly updated is the same as the Desire)
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superEtrader has now confirmed a delay untill the end of october...
Oh well the HD is worth waiting for IMO
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Looks like the DHD with Vodafone will be the awesome black one
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http://shop.vodafone.co.uk/shop/mobile-phone/htc-desire-hd
Looks the exact same as all the other ones if you ask me...
The danish supplier Mobilityshop has postponed the delivering date to the 29th of october
http://www.mobilityshop.dk/shop/htc-desire-hd-1286p.html
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Just got this e-mail from superetrader saying that the DHD will be delay until mid to end of the month.
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I hate to ask this, but how on earth can a mobile like the Desire HD fail Type Approval testing?
Do people here even know what Type Approval Testing is?
Surely, when designing the phone, they would try to meet the specs, and Type Approval would be given pretty easily...
I'm not one to fuel this kind of bullcrap topics, but if the reason given is "type approval", you can be sure they are making "regular"/detalic customers gobble up quite another load of bull****, betting on consumers' lack of knowledge (about the slang).
In the case of cellular technologies/GSM/3GPP, FCC certification is responsible for the TA.
Unless the acronym TA was misintrepreted, it would rather be Telecommunications Approval, but then again, this doesn't change anything. It's still FCC.
This has NOT A SINGLE DAMN thing to do with Google.
Type Approval simply means, has it met the required specs that are set out. There is a safety/min spec etc that it has to meet.
They wouldn't be doing that days before release. No way. Let's just take it as follows:
htcsense.com isn't ready yet. That makes a LOT more sense, than the phone hasn't passed a test.
BTW, expansys still have eta stock date to the oc 19...
Just received a txt from O2 to let me know with "apologies"
I'm absolutely gutted as I most likely will miss out on sending in my I9100 to Samsung to exchange for a smart camera. (unless I can get something cheap to coast on for a week...)
I have had a HD2 previously and have missed the sense and build quality (resorted to a Taurus case to give my sgs2 a bit of weight and durability)
Maybe I will see what the sgs4 has in store :/
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Just received a txt from O2 to let me know with "apologies"
I'm absolutely gutted as I most likely will miss out on sending in my I9100 to Samsung to exchange for a smart camera. (unless I can get something cheap to coast on for a week...)
I have had a HD2 previously and have missed the sense and build quality (resorted to a Taurus case to give my sgs2 a bit of weight and durability)
Maybe I will see what the sgs4 has in store :/
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Very disappointed to know about your order delayed, I am also worried about my one from P4u let me call right now and ask about it....
btw from what deal you and and from where?
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Just had chat with P4U but their answer are not precious or much helpful:
"Thank you for that I can see here that your order is pending the stock for release, we do not have any update to say there is a delay on this handset so we expect it to arrive as per the release date. You will receive an email to confirm the dispatch and we do pay for next day delivery although we do ask you to allow up to 3-5 working days to receive this in case of any courier delays."
That sux for EU, maybe HTC is shipping most of the One for US release
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When you order the HTC One from o2 you get free beats in ears .. at least that is the deal here in Germany.
The earbuds aren't that great, but it's still a nice addon
are o2 offering you anything as a gesture of goodwilll ??
Vodafone offered to take a month's bill off for me the last time such a thing happened
I really wonder why I never see anyone out of the US with a HTC smartphone, mostly droids and a whole bunch of iPhones.
Too bad Europe has to wait because of the production delays and the USA devision of HTC which get most of the first bunch of phones. (Dont get me wrong I'm really happy for you Americans, but I aswell want this phone asap, my Desire Z is absolutely done after more than two years )
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I really wonder why I never see anyone out of the US with a HTC smartphone, mostly droids and a whole bunch of iPhones.
Too bad Europe has to wait because of the production delays and the USA devision of HTC which get most of the first bunch of phones. (Dont get me wrong I'm really happy for you Americans, but I aswell want this phone asap, my Desire Z is absolutely done after more than two years )
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I was only kidding, EU,Asia always gets everything first. US is always the last one.
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I was only kidding, EU,Asia always gets everything first. US is always the last one.
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Haha well this time you guys at the other side of the atlantic are in luck
What about the UK? In Clove and Handtec I still see the previous expected dates.
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Very disappointed to know about your order delayed, I am also worried about my one from P4u let me call right now and ask about it....
btw from what deal you and and from where?
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Just had chat with P4U but their answer are not precious or much helpful:
"Thank you for that I can see here that your order is pending the stock for release, we do not have any update to say there is a delay on this handset so we expect it to arrive as per the release date. You will receive an email to confirm the dispatch and we do pay for next day delivery although we do ask you to allow up to 3-5 working days to receive this in case of any courier delays."
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Hope yours isnt delayed. Wonder if this is a handset supply issue?
After ordering mine I trawled through all my local phone shops to see if I could get my hands on one to get a feel of the premium finish. Only one with a dummy was phones 4 u.
carphone warehouse guy told me he was waiting for a dummy 2 days b4 release (this was today) but would not comfirm when that was.
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When you order the HTC One from o2 you get free beats in ears .. at least that is the deal here in Germany.
The earbuds aren't that great, but it's still a nice addon
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......this is why I hate o2.... we dont get a bean mate.
The last "gift" I got from them was with my capasative lg camera phone (worst phone I have ever had btw...)
and that was just a O2 branded blutooth headset.
gutted.....
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are o2 offering you anything as a gesture of goodwilll ??
Vodafone offered to take a month's bill off for me the last time such a thing happened
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For the release delay?
Netblade.nl said:
I really wonder why I never see anyone out of the US with a HTC smartphone, mostly droids and a whole bunch of iPhones.
Too bad Europe has to wait because of the production delays and the USA devision of HTC which get most of the first bunch of phones. (Dont get me wrong I'm really happy for you Americans, but I aswell want this phone asap, my Desire Z is absolutely done after more than two years )
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Always wanted a Desire z. had a nokia comunicator before smart phones took off. Part of me had hoped some one might have given it another go round now, but I wont hold my breath.
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What about the UK? In Clove and Handtec I still see the previous expected dates.
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May be just a carrier specific supply problem.
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May be just a carrier specific supply problem.
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I thought it was related to the manufacturing issues mentioned here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2181476
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I thought it was related to the manufacturing issues mentioned here:
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funnily enough I had just read about that 10-15mins before I got the text.
Not sure, I had originally ruled it out as everyone else seemed on track for the 15th.
now, the more I'm reading, the more I'm inclined to agree.
I've managed to dig out my wife's old 1st gen iphone ....
Man, the next couple of weeks are going to draaag....
At least I can try and skin it with grogorz Dusk theme Sure I have seen a forum thread somewhere.
Just had a look on the CPW website and they are now saying delivery "expected" March 29th. Holy Cow.
And soon everyone else will follow. The germans took them.
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Just had a look on the CPW website and they are now saying delivery "expected" March 29th. Holy Cow.
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Must be the parts issue. this could get even worse.....
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I really wonder why I never see anyone out of the US with a HTC smartphone, mostly droids and a whole bunch of iPhones.
Too bad Europe has to wait because of the production delays and the USA devision of HTC which get most of the first bunch of phones. (Dont get me wrong I'm really happy for you Americans, but I aswell want this phone asap, my Desire Z is absolutely done after more than two years )
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If the US is getting the first batch of phones how come Pre-orders aren't open yet
If there is a delay expect to see the few people who do get one putting them on ebay at ridiculous prices.
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Must be the parts issue. this could get even worse.....
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I would love to say I think your wrong, However sadly I'm sure your right.
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If the US is getting the first batch of phones how come Pre-orders aren't open yet
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Strange, this is what I found earlier today : http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_might_get_delayed_due_to_components_shortage-news-5667.php
"Even though HTC promises to launch the phone on March 15, lots of markets might not get it before May (at the earliest). HTC has already declared the USA market as a major target, so if the rumors come true it's likely that other markets might not get the smartphone for months."
After reading all the bad news yesterday about HTC (people leaving the company, articles about a "future without HTC", etc): I opened my dutch news app this morning when drinking my coffee and saw this:
http://www.nu.nl/gadgets/3481460/htc-one-vijf-miljoen-keer-verkocht.html
I expected to see an article about the Galaxy S4 being sold 10m times in the first month, but this nice dutch website preffered to focus on what HTC has done. Apparently, HTC has sold 5 million One's in "one month". So it has done 50% of what Samsung has done in the last month. And I guess that doesn't include what HTC has sold in March/April.
The weird thing is, I always read my twitter feed first. I have not seen a single report about this anywhere on Twitter. On the other side, NU.nl is a big and serious website here in the Netherlands.
What do you guys think? I am very happy to see this and it's far above my expectations. If this is true, HTC is not dying anytime soon!
Doesn't seem likely, as they had major production issues until late April.
I'm happy for them and hope they'll get through the rough time they are atm so they can continue making amazing phones!
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Doesn't seem likely, as they had major production issues until late April.
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its reported by the wall street journal quoting an official HTC exec (wsj needs subscription)
the news was just posted by Android Authority
so i would believe it
demanding outstripping supply, why is this so hard to believe?
you missed the fact which stated that it's most likely orders done by the shops and carriers, not to customers themselves. meaning they aren´t real sales yet
However, I do hope they all sell in the end anyway though. HTC deserves this, and beyond this as well. at the end of this month, which means soon enough, their capacity to create Ones will double from the amount right now. (if not already)
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its reported by the wall street journal quoting an official HTC exec (wsj needs subscription)
the news was just posted by Android Authority
so i would believe it
demanding outstripping supply, why is this so hard to believe?
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High demand with nothing to sell is still not a sale though, unless they are also including unfulfilled orders by their carrier partners and local stores~~ The phone has been launched in my country a whole month ago, and not a single store has more than 1 unit for sale at a time, with some stores getting 5 units per 3 days (that's on the high end) >.>
Making my 1-to-1 change for a faulty NFC chip all the more painful, as I'll have to wait 1-2 weeks for HTC to bring in stock ):
Cbxu said:
you missed the fact which stated that it's most likely orders done by the shops and carriers, not to customers themselves. meaning they aren´t real sales yet
However, I do hope they all sell in the end anyway though. HTC deserves this, and beyond this as well. at the end of this month, which means soon enough, their capacity to create Ones will double from the amount right now. (if not already)
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I didn't miss it, though I forgot to mention it in the first post. I'm not sure about the 10m from Samsung either, are those sold or orders done by shops/carriers?
Either way, I was expecting this exact message but with a 1 instead of the 5 million. Even if it's just orders done by carriers/shops, it's far above my expectations!
And it's good HTC are doubling their production, it's indeed awfull they often have 1-2 units per store also in the Netherlands.
I think samsung is aiming the same, 10 million orders but not all of them sold; they're still in storage of retailers / carriers.
Also when i went for accessory shopping, I was told everytime that they didn't have any since they got such few phones (1 - 5 maybe a day). saying it was not worth it yet buying accessories for such a scarce phone. it affects a whole deal.
5 million since launch, not just the last month:
http://www.theverge.com/2013/5/23/4358378/htc-one-5-million-smartphone-sales
Very respectable number to be honest, sure Samsung has double that in less time but people wanted another S3 and well, thats basically what they got.
Learned people got the One and now word of how good it is, is spreading.
But HTC, why did you release the HTC First? /sigh
5 million Seems like a stretch actually... Supply is still a serious issue..... The unlocked versions in US have been in backorder status for the entire month.... HTC ONE launch has been delayed by over 1 month in most Asia countries....
If they are counting confirmed orders then 5 million may be accurate... But it's highly unlikely that 5 million have been sold already....
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amazing to see htc do so well after all the production delays!
i think this is the first time im hearing them declare how much they sold.
go htc go!!! brilliant stuff
When executives start BS'ing you know your company has issues.
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If they are counting confirmed orders then 5 million may be accurate... But it's highly unlikely that 5 million have been sold already....
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Well Samsung counts confirmed orders, and brags about those numbers. HTC would likely want to do the same in this case.
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i think if supplies are enough,it will surpass S4 sales.here in riyadh,One were sold out in two days in all carriers/online stores here..and we are not so lucky to get one..they told us stocks will be avail in 2 to 7 days ..just sayin
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And how do you know they're BS'ing? Do you have your own sources within HTC, or are you just pulling stuff from the place where the sun don't shine?
For Samsung or HTC or any other vendor the important part is shipping them. They don't care if the units are sold to end users, warehouse or aliens. The sales figures are important and they start when they exit the production storage facility. From business point of view the numbers are quite accurate. 150+ operators all around the globe importing the phones, add also independent companies, import export business, BestBuy or Media Markt type of electronics mall bla bla bla.
Samsung, LG, HTC, Apple... They all trade stocks so sales figures are important. Especially when quarterly earning reports behind the doors. Once they sign an agreement, let's say with Vodafone, for 1,000,0000 units worldwide, that goes as 1,000,000 units sold to Vodafone in sales figures. When the end users get it is not their concern.
Well, probably not so many units in reality. Never seen a "One" besides on Champions League game )
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HTC One is selling good in Turkey aswell. I saw many people who doesn't even know HTC but after seeing review unit they are amazed by quality.
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For Samsung or HTC or any other vendor the important part is shipping them. They don't care if the units are sold to end users, warehouse or aliens. The sales figures are important and they start when they exit the production storage facility. From business point of view the numbers are quite accurate. 150+ operators all around the globe importing the phones, add also independent companies, import export business, BestBuy or Media Markt type of electronics mall bla bla bla.
Samsung, LG, HTC, Apple... They all trade stocks so sales figures are important. Especially when quarterly earning reports behind the doors. Once they sign an agreement, let's say with Vodafone, for 1,000,0000 units worldwide, that goes as 1,000,000 units sold to Vodafone in sales figures. When the end users get it is not their concern.
Well, probably not so many units in reality. Never seen a "One" besides on Champions League game )
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Exactly. HTC sells to the carriers so those are their sales numbers. They have already made their money.The carriers and other suppliers sell to us, and their numbers reflect that.
ataft said:
Well Samsung counts confirmed orders, and brags about those numbers. HTC would likely want to do the same in this case.
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Samsung and the general industry counts what they have pushed through to their sales channels... That number may or may not sell but that is what gets reported... Which is why at times manufacturers take a hit on unsold inventory at a later point....remember blackberry tab?
It's possible that HTC managed to send 5 million devices through their sales channels as the article suggests... but looking at the acute supply issues that still exist this means that there are approx 5 million devices out in the wild in the hands of customers..... That appears unlikely as apart from UK and US its really not available easily anywhere....
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bnbasarir said:
For Samsung or HTC or any other vendor the important part is shipping them. They don't care if the units are sold to end users, warehouse or aliens. The sales figures are important and they start when they exit the production storage facility. From business point of view the numbers are quite accurate. 150+ operators all around the globe importing the phones, add also independent companies, import export business, BestBuy or Media Markt type of electronics mall bla bla bla.
Samsung, LG, HTC, Apple... They all trade stocks so sales figures are important. Especially when quarterly earning reports behind the doors. Once they sign an agreement, let's say with Vodafone, for 1,000,0000 units worldwide, that goes as 1,000,000 units sold to Vodafone in sales figures. When the end users get it is not their concern.
Well, probably not so many units in reality. Never seen a "One" besides on Champions League game )
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You are completely right. I would add thought that more of those 5 million units are in consumers hands then the 10 million from Samsung. HTC is pushing this phone out fast. Last one I got was made 6 days before it came into my hands. I would imagine there is a decent stockpile of S4 in some places where I do not think that is true of the ONE.
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Samsung and the general industry counts what they have pushed through to their sales channels... That number may or may not sell but that is what gets reported... Which is why at times manufacturers take a hit on unsold inventory at a later point....remember blackberry tab?
It's possible that HTC managed to send 5 million devices through their sales channels as the article suggests... but looking at the acute supply issues that still exist this means that there are approx 5 million devices out in the wild in the hands of customers..... That appears unlikely as apart from UK and US its really not available easily anywhere....
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So then where are these units. What warehouse are they hiding in? Why did some guy pay $800 on ebay for my ONE? No one has stock of the HTC ONE. There is no surplus anywhere that I have heard. I have only heard their are not enough to go around.
Seriously, it's releasing in 2 days and no pricing or availability details??
This is ridiculous.
Has a company ever announced a product and simply never released it?
Others are noticing this too:
http://mobile.theverge.com/2013/9/22/4759120/wheres-the-samsung-galaxy-note-10-1-2014-edition
Probably the tablet won't release in 2 days...
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Probably the tablet won't release in 2 days...
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Frakking liars.
September 25, pshh.
I thought Samsung said October release... at least for the USA .
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I thought Samsung said October release... at least for the USA .
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Yes, but Sept 25 for over 100 countries. If there was such a massive launch scheduled within 2 days, don’t you think we’d hear something about it? Pricing, which European stores were going to carry it, unboxing videos, hands-on reviews with retail units, etc.
But nothing!
So this makes me think that those countries aren’t getting it soon. And if they are delayed, then you better believe we will be, too.
This blows.
In italy nobody have notice about the new Note...
I did a quick search for Samsung's IFA 2013 announcement's and The Verge noted the GN10.1 2014 Edition was slated for an October release with no specific date provided. Just figures.
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Yes, but Sept 25 for over 100 countries. If there was such a massive launch scheduled within 2 days, don’t you think we’d hear something about it? Pricing, which European stores were going to carry it, unboxing videos, hands-on reviews with retail units, etc.
But nothing!
So this makes me think that those countries aren’t getting it soon. And if they are delayed, then you better believe we will be, too.
This blows.
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I have seen no official release date from Samsung for anywhere. I have seen speculation all over the place including Sept 24, Sept 25 and Oct 4. Nut all of those dates have come from blogs and rss news, nothing official.
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According to this article it won't be available in Canada until November.
http://www.newswire.ca/en/story/122...5-great-items-to-its-galaxy-family-of-devices
According to Samsung Switzerland (on Facebook) we'll be getting it 'mid-october', the LTE version 'end of october'.
For a device that's supposed to be available in three weeks, I find this lack of information very strange.
I don't get why so many tech companies don't get this. This is why Apple is as successful as it is, they don't pull this kind of thing.
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According to Samsung Switzerland (on Facebook) we'll be getting it 'mid-october', the LTE version 'end of october'.
For a device that's supposed to be available in three weeks, I find this lack of information very strange.
I don't get why so many tech companies don't get this. This is why Apple is as successful as it is, they don't pull this kind of thing.
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Galaxy Note 3 (deservedly) Galaxy Gear (not so deservedly) is taking all the attention it appears. However, they could throw us a bone here and there. I know that they don't expect a lot of sales but still, as I said in another thread, if you want to gain loyal customers, you don't pull this kind of stuff.
Pull what kind of stuff?
They showed a upcoming product, never announced a release date, and have yet to do so (likely because they don't have one yet). I'm not sure what the alternative is other than to just make one up and then miss it?
Personally I'd rather them wait to announce anything until it's a sure bet and I respect them for that.
Nothing pisses me off more than having a release date and it gets missed or there is a shortage.
I really don't understand the current hysteria lol...
Looks like this may shed some light on when it's coming....
http://mobilesyrup.com/2013/09/23/s...-and-galaxy-s4-mini-to-canada-on-october-4th/
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I'm selling my current note and moving on to the surface pro or either the Lenovo yoga 11s. I was going to get the new note but I need more power.
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It's impossible
I don't want buy the tablet at November, i need this before.
Guich said:
It's impossible
I don't want buy the tablet at November, i need this before.
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My Prediction based on the roll out of roms for the Wifi & WIFI+3G Variants
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2457074
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2457071
That these variants will be released as rumored before end of September early October. ( which seems promising for Middle east, Africa & European countries )
The LTE 4G version seems to be released on a later stage - probably November. ( For North America )
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My Prediction based on the roll out of roms for the Wifi & WIFI+3G Variants
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2457074
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2457071
That these variants will be released as rumored before end of September early October. ( which seems promising for Middle east, Africa & European countries )
The LTE 4G version seems to be released on a later stage - probably November. ( For North America )
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I will buy the 4G edition...
Will see, samsung fail atm!
Screw this. If they keep us in the dark, I'll just go with IPad 5.
Bring on the flamers, I don't care.
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Pull what kind of stuff?
They showed a upcoming product, never announced a release date, and have yet to do so (likely because they don't have one yet). I'm not sure what the alternative is other than to just make one up and then miss it?
Personally I'd rather them wait to announce anything until it's a sure bet and I respect them for that.
Nothing pisses me off more than having a release date and it gets missed or there is a shortage.
I really don't understand the current hysteria lol...
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I agree, a release date that is announced but then not honored is also very annoying.
What I mean is that they announce a device, with some kind of release date (at least an approximate one; at least in some areas) but yet there is very little information (for example the price) out there fore interested customers.
In my opinion, if you announce a device you need to be able to present a release schedule and reccommended retail pricing. Otherwise people are going to get excited about your device at the announcement but then get frustrated during the wait of indeterminate length.
This is the example that I experienced: The Note is announced at the end of august. Weeks later, online stores (where I live) still didn't have it in their catalogue and asking customer support, they said they had no info about it, be it price, release date or even if they will have it, because they were not informed by samsung. When the new iPhones were announced the stores had them in their catalogues on the same day, pricing, release date and all. Today you can buy the new iPhones, which were announced two weeks after the Note, of which there is still no sight.
From a marketing point of view it just doesn't make sense to me. You spend a lot of money and effort announcing your device, trying to get people excited over it. But because people can not act on their excitement (for a long time) all that energy just dissipates, instead of it going into pre-orders/sales.
well you can play with the firmware already ;] i uploaded it to my server for fast dl http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2457067 njoy
The_Maverick said:
I agree, a release date that is announced but then not honored is also very annoying.
What I mean is that they announce a device, with some kind of release date (at least an approximate one; at least in some areas) but yet there is very little information (for example the price) out there fore interested customers.
In my opinion, if you announce a device you need to be able to present a release schedule and reccommended retail pricing. Otherwise people are going to get excited about your device at the announcement but then get frustrated during the wait of indeterminate length.
This is the example that I experienced: The Note is announced at the end of august. Weeks later, online stores (where I live) still didn't have it in their catalogue and asking customer support, they said they had no info about it, be it price, release date or even if they will have it, because they were not informed by samsung. When the new iPhones were announced the stores had them in their catalogues on the same day, pricing, release date and all. Today you can buy the new iPhones, which were announced two weeks after the Note, of which there is still no sight.
From a marketing point of view it just doesn't make sense to me. You spend a lot of money and effort announcing your device, trying to get people excited over it. But because people can not act on their excitement (for a long time) all that energy just dissipates, instead of it going into pre-orders/sales.
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Bravo!