With the old cyanogenmod kitkat version, and the dsp program back then I used to have very deep and powerful bass enhancement, it was really nice.
But since the new lollipop version, the bass are really bad, it just makes the sound muffled and not powerful.
I tried Dolby atmos or the official cyanogenOS dsp program, not it still doesn't work like it used to do.
Do you know any way to get back a good bass enchancer?
Edit: actually I think I had the mod Beats+xlouder installed over cyanogenmod. Is there any version of this mod for lollipop?
Personally I use & recommend Viper4Android. Very customizable to suit your sound preferences and you can set up different profiles for each output type (phone speaker, headphones, external speakers, etc.).
I recently tried a few different mods I found, each had pro's and cons...
Viper | ATMOS (Dolby)
Viper | Maxx Audio
Viper | Beats
These had a significant effect on my battery life, not sure if it was the Viper part of the other part of the mod??
With the Dolby ATMOS, I liked it when I finally got the Dolby EQ set, but it's pretty hard to dial in. You'll be really close and touch the EQ, to fine tune it, and everything close to where you touch just jumped around and changed a lot.
The other issue I had, I have PowerAmp as my default player and have it set up really good..... When I would open PowerAmp, all audio mods would stop working until I reboot the phone. The only work around was to turn off all of PowerAmps audio processing and let the mods handle it, which I don't think sounded as good as PowerAmp, but make everything else sound better.
Just curious... Is there a good audio mod out there that is battery friendly?? How about one that doesn't stop when using PowerAmp?
ElementalX -> Headphone Gain + -> PowerAMP EQ(Alpha 700) or get a portable dac+amp? I got myself FiiO Q1, embedded wolfson is just sheeet.
SpiritBreak3r said:
ElementalX -> Headphone Gain + -> PowerAMP EQ(Alpha 700) or get a portable dac+amp? I got myself FiiO Q1, embedded wolfson is just sheeet.
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What do you mean PowerAMP EQ?? I found the Alpha 700 build, but is there a stand-alone EQ as well or a way to make the EQ syetem wide?
Never thought about using EX headphone gain, I have that kernel and tweak app installed.
I also tried Viper with the audiophile profile and it sounded worse than stock.
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What do you mean PowerAMP EQ?? I found the Alpha 700 build, but is there a stand-alone EQ as well or a way to make the EQ syetem wide?
Never thought about using EX headphone gain, I have that kernel and tweak app installed.
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By powerAMP EQ I meant, just for the music, not system wide. After going through default FX and viperAudio (I never liked it) to work with my DI.FM and other media application, I decided to get a hardware DAC+AMP.
If you're not into huge bulky dac+amp, you could get your hands on FiiO K1 https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B0189EVGAG
It's an exceptional device with capabilities for just 40$. Works great with provided OTG Cables, but I got a single Type-C to Micro-USB so I don't have to worries about adapters/connectors.
I updated to the newest build, however, my bluetooth volume is still linked to the system volume and causes all sorts of issues. I'm using beats powerbeats 2 wireless. It ends up killing the sound quality when I run music through viperaudio. Fortunately, I found a slight work around by reducing the output gain to -.8 It's good, but not what it's supposed to do. Does anyone have a fix or am I missing something. I'm also running the newest test build on DU. Thanks in advance for any help.
When connected to BT it will use the system volume. That is the way it is meant to work as it over rides the default.
I recently bought a pair of beats earphones and I found that our phone doesn't have guts to deliver outstanding audio quality. I searched on internet for mods and read about viper4android as the best one. Now my question is this
Has anyone used viper4android on this device ??
If yes then please give feedback about its performance
I used viper4android in the past, it just work normaly without any problem (Better than the default audio driver)
Note: It will consume a bit more battery than normal
I've used V4A on this device, and it's pretty great (far better than the default and even the DTS audio feature in Huawei's music player). Of course, how good it is depends on your configuration. It's a pain to install, though (need to have root, SELinux set to permissive; and even then the audio driver installation feels like a gamble). So yeah, it's great, if you can get it to work. I've had more luck installing one of the audio mod packs, something like Divine Beats, but they come with a bunch of bloat and sound far worse out of the box.
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I've used V4A on this device, and it's pretty great (far better than the default and even the DTS audio feature in Huawei's music player). Of course, how good it is depends on your configuration. It's a pain to install, though (need to have root, SELinux set to permissive; and even then the audio driver installation feels like a gamble). So yeah, it's great, if you can get it to work. I've had more luck installing one of the audio mod packs, something like Divine Beats, but they come with a bunch of bloat and sound far worse out of the box.
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And what about dolby atmos...??
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And what about dolby atmos...??
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I've only used Atmos for music (apparently it's better for movies to emulate surround sound on a stereo setup) and didn't like it compared to V4A. Music sounds blown out and there isn't much to configure to make it sound better, besides turning it far down/ off.
Hi, I'm from Europe and yesterday I received my brand new A2017G. It's on B09 software version and OTA isnt finding anything newer. Sadly I read in many places (and tested it by myself) that only stock music player can output music to the AKM DAC. Are there any possibilities for me to achive desired result (I mean non-stock players do the same) on stock rom? I assume that I'd have to root and flash some custom rom but I would like to do it in the last resort (I use many banking apps which don't work that good with root and custom roms)
I can't hide the fact that this function is quite a dealbreaker for me. The phone is all great but if I can't use my favourite music player - for example PowerAmp, the what's the point. Stock music player is extremely lacking - and that is saying it lightly.
I have used many players which works fine (with Dolby Atmos) with the stock Rom..
Actually it's Pi music player. But you have Phonograph too and several others. Just give them a try too see it's what you want.
By the way, the last version of the stock Rom for G models is Nougat B10.
Envoyé de mon ZTE A2017G en utilisant Tapatalk
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Hi, I'm from Europe and yesterday I received my brand new A2017G. It's on B09 software version and OTA isnt finding anything newer. Sadly I read in many places (and tested it by myself) that only stock music player can output music to the AKM DAC. Are there any possibilities for me to achive desired result (I mean non-stock players do the same) on stock rom? I assume that I'd have to root and flash some custom rom but I would like to do it in the last resort (I use many banking apps which don't work that good with root and custom roms)
I can't hide the fact that this function is quite a dealbreaker for me. The phone is all great but if I can't use my favourite music player - for example PowerAmp, the what's the point. Stock music player is extremely lacking - and that is saying it lightly.
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I have used many players which works fine (with Dolby Atmos) with the stock Rom..
Actually it's Pi music player. But you have Phonograph too and several others. Just give them a try too see it's what you want.
By the way, the last version of the stock Rom for G models is Nougat B10.
Envoyé de mon ZTE A2017G en utilisant Tapatalk
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All apps can use the AKM DAC, actually. if you don't believe me go to the sound toggle and, well, toggle it a few times. Now hi-res is another matter, but I believe you are not talking about that specifically. if you are, then only Neutron and maybe those apps jlle mentioned work (i.e. not poweramp)
Just use Poweramp if you don't care about hi-res files and that stuff
The question is - I honestly don't know. I just wanted good audio quality. At first I installed poweramp, listened to some songs at the sound was decent. However when during playback I went to android settings -> sound -> headset hifi and switched between super and standard nothing happened. There was no change in music. I assume it's a setting for headphones only but I tested several pairs and nothing. But when I used stock music player I could toggle that setting with audible effect. Another thing (I guess) is Dolby icon visible when you pull down status bar. Is it the same as Dolby Atmos in sound settings? Does it works when using phone's speakers only or you can use it with headphones also? Anyway, on poweramp tapping it brings no change (it won't activate) whereas in stock player it works splendidly...
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Is it the same as Dolby Atmos in sound settings? Does it works when using phone's speakers only or you can use it with headphones also? Anyway, on poweramp tapping it brings no change (it won't activate) whereas in stock player it works splendidly...
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It's the same and it works with the speaker or headphons. In speaker I would leave Dolby on,does it's job quite well with it but for headphones I'm turning it off to take use of the AKM dac/super mode,but to really hear a difference you've got to have a pair of high impedance headphones.Also in Poweramp there should be a setting somewhere that makes Dolby work again,but may turn poweramps equalizer off, but I don't know where/what the setting is called since I'm only using spotify atm.
F.Y.I., Poweramp only works with HIFI if you use the beta, and include a couple work-arounds in your build.prop. Not the easiest thing in the world to get running, but it sounds great once you do.
Dolby and Hi-Fi audio quality are two totally different things. Dolby is the separate audio processing software that works on both speakers and headphones, but does not get too well with Poweramp, while Hi-Fi audio is a setting for choosing which audio processor outputs when using headphones ( the integrated Snapdragon audio proc or the AKM one).
On my A2017G there is a pretty subtle, but clear difference when using Poweramp, between the two Hi-Fi settings: the Super one is a bit louder, has more bass and better soundstage. This can be changed without problems when listening to music using Poweramp.
The Dolby software, though, sometimes can be activated, but then it cannot be deactivated until I stop the music and also the interface still shows that it's deactivated, even though the sound has changed.
My recommendation is to just use the Hi-Fi thing in Settings with the PowerAmp EQ because the Dolby software is not too versatile. This sounds really nice with my headphones.
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F.Y.I., Poweramp only works with HIFI if you use the beta, and include a couple work-arounds in your build.prop. Not the easiest thing in the world to get running, but it sounds great once you do.
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naw. It doesn't work at all. The workaround I posted just reroutes the audio path in some obscure way, and it makes sound better out of it (for some reason the equalizer makes more difference) but the sound goes into a mixer path and gets downsampled to 48k. You get to use Viper4Android and Dolby with it though.
It also kills the camera
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The question is - I honestly don't know. I just wanted good audio quality. At first I installed poweramp, listened to some songs at the sound was decent. However when during playback I went to android settings -> sound -> headset hifi and switched between super and standard nothing happened. There was no change in music. I assume it's a setting for headphones only but I tested several pairs and nothing. But when I used stock music player I could toggle that setting with audible effect. Another thing (I guess) is Dolby icon visible when you pull down status bar. Is it the same as Dolby Atmos in sound settings? Does it works when using phone's speakers only or you can use it with headphones also? Anyway, on poweramp tapping it brings no change (it won't activate) whereas in stock player it works splendidly...
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it usually lets you change between super and standard . You should find a difference in the soundstage and better, more defined bass.
The "standard DAC" (also akm, seemingly, but powersaving-oriented) is used for the speakers, and Atmos is designed for phone speakers too. You CAN use it on headphones, but it'll give you a bunch of noise. It doesn't work with Poweramp unless you use 704 and follow my guide on how to "enable hi-fi" on it (the camera will break, you'll need to use another camera app). But it's not worth it unless you use Viper4Android
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The question is - I honestly don't know. I just wanted good audio quality. At first I installed poweramp, listened to some songs at the sound was decent. However when during playback I went to android settings -> sound -> headset hifi and switched between super and standard nothing happened. There was no change in music. I assume it's a setting for headphones only but I tested several pairs and nothing. But when I used stock music player I could toggle that setting with audible effect. Another thing (I guess) is Dolby icon visible when you pull down status bar. Is it the same as Dolby Atmos in sound settings? Does it works when using phone's speakers only or you can use it with headphones also? Anyway, on poweramp tapping it brings no change (it won't activate) whereas in stock player it works splendidly...
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it usually lets you change between super and standard . You should find a difference in the soundstage and better, more defined bass.
The "standard DAC" (also akm, seemingly, but powersaving-oriented) is used for the speakers, and Atmos is designed for phone speakers too. You CAN use it on headphones, but it'll give you a bunch of noise. It doesn't work with Poweramp unless you use 704 and follow my guide on how to "enable hi-fi" on it (the camera will break, you'll need to use another camera app). But it's not worth it unless you use Viper4Android
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naw. It doesn't work at all. The workaround I posted just reroutes the audio path in some obscure way, and it makes sound better out of it (for some reason the equalizer makes more difference) but the sound goes into a mixer path and gets downsampled to 48k. You get to use Viper4Android and Dolby with it though.
It also kills the camera
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I guess I'm a little confused here. I've feel like I've had so many discussions on what actually uses the HIFI DAC on this forums (you seem to be one of the few that know we use 2 different AKMs). What procedure are you talking about though? Currently I use AINUR, which supposedly someone with an AXON worked with to get the audio down the right path, and I also use the work around to get Poweramp to use the HIFI mode. From what I heard this should output 24bit 96khz. Unless you are implying that poweramp downgrades audio then upsamples it?
In any case, all 3rd party ROMs use the HIFI DAC by default. Maybe not the full extent, but to be honest the most important thing for HIFI music is mastering. But even so, without full DAC control I still think the phone sounds much better than most others. I do want to try out that custom "ROM" though, see what the controls do.
For my ears, using the bare bones ZTE player produces better sound with headphones, but it just isn't worth dealing with the limits of that player.
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I guess I'm a little confused here. I've feel like I've had so many discussions on what actually uses the HIFI DAC on this forums (you seem to be one of the few that know we use 2 different AKMs). What procedure are you talking about though? Currently I use AINUR, which supposedly someone with an AXON worked with to get the audio down the right path, and I also use the work around to get Poweramp to use the HIFI mode. From what I heard this should output 24bit 96khz. Unless you are implying that poweramp downgrades audio then upsamples it?
In any case, all 3rd party ROMs use the HIFI DAC by default. Maybe not the full extent, but to be honest the most important thing for HIFI music is mastering. But even so, without full DAC control I still think the phone sounds much better than most others. I do want to try out that custom "ROM" though, see what the controls do.
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The "procedure" is the workaround you use. It doesn't do what you believe. Poweramp seems to believe that it is offloading via a direct path but it is going through a mixer path. Therefore Poweramp (maybe) processes at high resolution, but it gets downgraded at the output, and you get 48kHz. If you don't believe me that the output is 48 use media.audio_flinger
Ainur has the AK4490 patch integrated. It's no use since a) stock ROMs use it (they have the switch) and b) since long ago all ROMs have integrated the AK4490 patch on them.
You can get Hi-Res on stock and custom M and N ROMs but you have to use Neutron which is horrible. Doesn't work in O ROMs at the moment
i think we had a big discussion with the 2 akm's thing before though, but someone asked ZTE and they replied that they also used the DAC that's inside the AK4961. so i dunno
All you need is this.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jetappfactory.jetaudioplus
And optionally get the AM3D plugin from within the player. It has everything you could need, even AGC. I've tried so many players and always come back to Jet. Neutron is more flawed from a user interaction perspective and I don't like it.
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For my ears, using the bare bones ZTE player produces better sound with headphones, but it just isn't worth dealing with the limits of that player.
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I usually keep the stock music app disabled but every now and then Jet gets an update so I enable and listen to stock, then listen to Jet.
Every time, Jet sounds better and I disable stock app again.
I keep Dolby Atmos turned off using BT or 3.5 jack for music and have it on with the inbuilt speakers or if playing a video whatever the audio listening device.
I've been using Gone Mad player for a while now, quite happy with it. Works great with BT in car, headphones, hirez etc.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=gonemad.gmmp
I just use the deep buffer remover mod from XDA to have the Super DAC setting working for all headphone output. I posted about it ages ago back here https://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/how-to/list-music-players-outputting-to-akm-dac-t3695058
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https://www.extreamsd.com/index.php/hires-audio-driver
http://www.extreamsd.com/index.php/uapp-trial
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https://www.extreamsd.com/index.php/hires-audio-driver
http://www.extreamsd.com/index.php/uapp-trial
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thanks a lot for the links. I just purchased the Pro from Play Store after I tested the same song versus neutron player on a pair of ath m50x.
the sound on USB audio is much much better.
I'm waiting to test it on my gf's htc 10 when she's home, should be even better
I highly recommend getting the trial guys