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Really missing an Android App that can control the FTV like a controller. I use one to control my TV, DVR, etc... works pretty good. Not as good as the actual controller, but when someone walks off with it, I can do it from my phone.
Seems this would not be hard to do with a BT app on the phone to mimic the controller, provide keyboard input etc...
krelvinaz said:
Really missing an Android App that can control the FTV like a controller. I use one to control my TV, DVR, etc... works pretty good. Not as good as the actual controller, but when someone walks off with it, I can do it from my phone.
Seems this would not be hard to do with a BT app on the phone to mimic the controller, provide keyboard input etc...
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It certainly seems doable. Maybe Amazon will release something like this in their app store.
I mean XBMC has a remote app and it works well with XBMC and FireTV.
And i have seen games (like bombsquad) which have controller apps that are mostly usable for gameplay.
atomriot said:
It certainly seems doable. Maybe Amazon will release something like this in their app store.
I mean XBMC has a remote app and it works well with XBMC and FireTV.
And i have seen games (like bombsquad) which have controller apps that are mostly usable for gameplay.
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I noticed the one from bombsquad last night.... seemed like a good way to extend a game.
Ordered one of these from Amazon this morning. Will have it tonight. Anyone else using one? Saw someone using it with their FTV in a video last night.
Mele F10-PRO 2.4G Air Mouse Wireless Keyboard 2 in 1 Intelligent Voice with IR Remote Control for PC TV Media Player
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DHEUBPA
Strange there is no Accessories section for the FTV here and that there has yet to be a single post in the Themes and Apps section.
Got the same remote for the ftv. Not really happy with how it works with the ftv os. Im hoping someday some dev will make a vanilla android rom for the ftv.
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Use of it is kind of hit or miss, tried it primarily for XBMC which I had yet to get working with my win box media center. The keyboard was useful until you do a password and can't tell if cap is on or not.
Used plex and it did what I was trying to get XBMC to do, access to all of my media files on my primary workstation
krelvinaz said:
Ordered one of these from Amazon this morning. Will have it tonight. Anyone else using one? Saw someone using it with their FTV in a video last night.
Mele F10-PRO 2.4G Air Mouse Wireless Keyboard 2 in 1 Intelligent Voice with IR Remote Control for PC TV Media Player
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DHEUBPA
Strange there is no Accessories section for the FTV here and that there has yet to be a single post in the Themes and Apps section.
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i was the guy in the video, i love the mele pro f10. and the reason why caps dont work is not because of the mele pro its because that is a know bug in xbmc frodo versions. use the esc and back button on the keyboard side to navigate in xbmc. you'll get use to it and what i love is because it acts like a keyboard it will work if we ever get a custom recovery like clockworkmod. At least it worked fined on my ouya and madcatz mojo.
mejdam said:
i was the guy in the video, i love the mele pro f10. and the reason why caps dont work is not because of the mele pro its because that is a know bug in xbmc frodo versions. use the esc and back button on the keyboard side to navigate in xbmc. you'll get use to it and what i love is because it acts like a keyboard it will work if we ever get a custom recovery like clockworkmod. At least it worked fined on my ouya and madcatz mojo.
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Any chance you can link that video? Maybe expand some on the use of the remote? I'm hunting for a remote that can control the FTV and TV on/off, volume. I need one that will also work with an IR repeater so FLIRC might be of the list.
Thanks.
keymap for MELE F10
Hi
I'm brand new to XBMC/Amazon fire TV, which arrived this week, and have the MELE F10 controller in the post. Really impressed with both xbmc and the Fire TV. I'm wondering if anyone here managed to get the microphone on the MELE working with the amazon search? Also are there any keymap files available and.or how easy it to make one up myself?
Thanks
Andy
Hey All,
New to Shield, not to Android or TV boxes.
For the past year I've been using the Amazon FireTV. Mostly for YouTube which I connect to my phone and for KODI and various add-ons for it. And before that I got a Chromecast early 2013 when they were first released.
Recently I've been loading the FireTV with emulators and connecting a USB hub, Xbox 360 controller dongle etc got a pain so I decided to buy a Shield.
So far, things I like
- Default TV launcher (I have a sideload launcher for my other apps)
- Play Store
- Game performance
- Design of device and peripherals
Things that bug me...
- No pause/play, rewind, forward buttons on either the gamepad or the remote controller? This thing is marketed as Android TV and coming from a Fire TV, I really miss these. Even my 10+ year old Sky remote has a pause button.
- No context / menu button. Makes using some sideloaded apps a real nightmare. Any workaround?
- I have yet to find a way to open the context menu on KODI to add my favourites.
- Cast functionality on the YouTube app is not as expected. If I open the YouTube for TV app from the launcher, I can view my subscriptions and watch videos and I can use the remote for the on-screen controls. There's no way to queue any videos.
- If I connect my phone's YouTube app to the Shield, the Shield goes to the basic UI my old Chromecast used. I can queue videos on the phone, but I can't use the remote or controller on the Shield to do anything except pause.
- I can't see any value in the remote. It adds nothing extra.
Any tips / suggestions?
Thanks!
skymera said:
Hey All,
New to Shield, not to Android or TV boxes.
For the past year I've been using the Amazon FireTV. Mostly for YouTube which I connect to my phone and for KODI and various add-ons for it. And before that I got a Chromecast early 2013 when they were first released.
Recently I've been loading the FireTV with emulators and connecting a USB hub, Xbox 360 controller dongle etc got a pain so I decided to buy a Shield.
So far, things I like
- Default TV launcher (I have a sideload launcher for my other apps)
- Play Store
- Game performance
- Design of device and peripherals
Things that bug me...
- No pause/play, rewind, forward buttons on either the gamepad or the remote controller? This thing is marketed as Android TV and coming from a Fire TV, I really miss these. Even my 10+ year old Sky remote has a pause button.
- No context / menu button. Makes using some sideloaded apps a real nightmare. Any workaround?
- I have yet to find a way to open the context menu on KODI to add my favourites.
- Cast functionality on the YouTube app is not as expected. If I open the YouTube for TV app from the launcher, I can view my subscriptions and watch videos and I can use the remote for the on-screen controls. There's no way to queue any videos.
- If I connect my phone's YouTube app to the Shield, the Shield goes to the basic UI my old Chromecast used. I can queue videos on the phone, but I can't use the remote or controller on the Shield to do anything except pause.
- I can't see any value in the remote. It adds nothing extra.
Any tips / suggestions?
Thanks!
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Since it's an Android device, you got options. You can usually pair just about any Bluetooth remote. In addition Google made a really neat and minimalistic app called Remote Control that works wonderfully with Android TV (at least that's the case for my Nexus player and Shield TV console). There's also this www.amazon.com/dp/B00M4JYTWA/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_5XHvwbH3D7DKJ
Supposedly you can program it to your liking and it has lots of functionality including play/pause and volume controls. There are also controllers with a mouse pad and keyboard built in. Both remotes I suggested have play/pause functions. The Google remote control app doesn't have a mouse, but has a keyboard, a play/pause, select, home, back, and scrolling buttons, of you can opt to use a directional pad with tap to select function, I usually find myself using this remote app over Nvidia controller, it's a free app and very reliable. Personally I like Nvidia's accessory controller concept, but not sure I'd pay $50 for a half baked product when there are so many better universal and all in one remotes out there.
Syndrome666 said:
Since it's an Android device, you got options. You can usually pair just about any Bluetooth remote. In addition Google made a really neat and minimalistic app called Remote Control that works wonderfully with Android TV (at least that's the case for my Nexus player and Shield TV console). There's also this www.amazon.com/dp/B00M4JYTWA/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_5XHvwbH3D7DKJ
Supposedly you can program it to your liking and it has lots of functionality including play/pause and volume controls. There are also controllers with a mouse pad and keyboard built in. Both remotes I suggested have play/pause functions. The Google remote control app doesn't have a mouse, but has a keyboard, a play/pause, select, home, back, and scrolling buttons, of you can opt to use a directional pad with tap to select function, I usually find myself using this remote app over Nvidia controller, it's a free app and very reliable. Personally I like Nvidia's accessory controller concept, but not sure I'd pay $50 for a half baked product when there are so many better universal and all in one remotes out there.
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Thanks for the reply.
I have since discovered that X on the gamepad shows the context menu in Kodi and I downloaded Yatse app on my phone which is also nice.
May look into a bluetooth remote.
Never found a workaround for YouTube, but it's only a minor annoyance.
I just discovered that the Nvidia Shield TV's remote control doesn't have the MENU button. I use the MENU button a lot in Kodi to access the context menu. I'm probably going to return it now.
This remote has so few buttons, there's not even a HOME button or a BACK button!
The hardware is great but the remote ruins the experience.
Kodi 16 supports long press on select button for context menu support. Wait for stable 16.1 and upgrade and you'll then be able to use the remote for context menu duties
Remote is garbage, agreed. Pressing X on the gamepad in Kodi will show the context menu
I agree. The Nvidia remote is really not a good thing for kodi. You can download this though it works great.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.leetzone.android.yatsewidgetfree
Would we be able to buy an Amazon Fire TV remote and use it with this for Kodi? I got this on Black Friday mainly because of the remote deal, this remote is such a disappointment.
chantelle310 said:
Kodi 16 supports long press on select button for context menu support. Wait for stable 16.1 and upgrade and you'll then be able to use the remote for context menu duties
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That's cool but still a long time to wait. I still can't believe Nvidia says that their remote is worth $50.
Neo3D said:
Would we be able to buy an Amazon Fire TV remote and use it with this for Kodi? I got this on Black Friday mainly because of the remote deal, this remote is such a disappointment.
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fire tv remote works fine yes. Syncs up through Bluetooth perfectly. One additional button added from Nvidia wouldn't have been a crime. I love everything about the remote apart from the lack of menu button.
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Kodi 16 beta 2 Jarvis works great on shield and tweaks and fixes related towards shield tv have been implemented. I actually like the remote but I got it for free which helps
with the headphone port on the remote it actually doubles as a chromecast Audio. I find that a very nice feature and use it a lot.
I think the remote is worth the $. First; it's Bluetooth, not IR. Second. It's got a headphone jack which supports headsets (headphones with mic). This makes it worth it imo I can be watching TV and enjoying sound while someone else sleeps in the room. Priceless for me. Third: it's got the mic for voice search.
I've been able to map buttons on the remote with key mapper.
I would check out Droid Mote if the remote isn't for you. Sounds like you've got an android phone or two lying around you could get along with a lot better. Yes it does require the paid server app. But the benefits of Droid mote are worth the cost.
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chantelle310 said:
fire tv remote works fine yes. Syncs up through Bluetooth perfectly. One additional button added from Nvidia wouldn't have been a crime. I love everything about the remote apart from the lack of menu button.
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Which version of the AFTV remote did you confirm to be working?
AFTV-G1 bluetooth?
AF Stick?
AFTV-G2 WiFi?
killerskincanoe said:
I think the remote is worth the $. First; it's Bluetooth, not IR. Second. It's got a headphone jack which supports headsets (headphones with mic). This makes it worth it imo I can be watching TV and enjoying sound while someone else sleeps in the room. Priceless for me. Third: it's got the mic for voice search.
I've been able to map buttons on the remote with key mapper.
I would check out Droid Mote if the remote isn't for you. Sounds like you've got an android phone or two lying around you could get along with a lot better. Yes it does require the paid server app. But the benefits of Droid mote are worth the cost.
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How do you remap it so the Play/Pause button on the game controller plays/pauses the movie instead of showing the Info drop down?
mrruin said:
with the headphone port on the remote it actually doubles as a chromecast Audio. I find that a very nice feature and use it a lot.
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Isn't ChromeCast Audio where your phone sends audio through WiFi to your speakers? How did you get the remote to do that?
Neo3D said:
How do you remap it so the Play/Pause button on the game controller plays/pauses the movie instead of showing the Info drop down?
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Try this, should work. I am using Jarvis on shield but was able to do this with my nexus player
http://kodi.wiki/view/Add-on:Keymap_Editor
This is what my key map xml looks like for nexus. Allows context when no video and pause play when video
<keymap>
<global>
<keyboard>
<play_pause>ContextMenu</play_pause>
</keyboard>
</global>
<fullscreenvideo>
<keyboard>
<play_pause>PlayPause</play_pause>
<key id="61448">stop</key>
</keyboard>
</fullscreenvideo>
</keymap>
Neo3D said:
Isn't ChromeCast Audio where your phone sends audio through WiFi to your speakers? How did you get the remote to do that?
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No, you just cast to the chromecast, which means you tell chromecast via your phone where to stream media from. The chromecast, once you started the audio stream, doesn't need your phone. You can turn it off, music will still play.
SATV has built in Chromecast, the remote will output any audio via the headphone jack. So, plug it in to your stereo, cast to your SATV and your stereo will play the stream.
mcord11758 said:
Try this, should work. I am using Jarvis on shield but was able to do this with my nexus player
http://kodi.wiki/view/Add-on:Keymap_Editor
This is what my key map xml looks like for nexus. Allows context when no video and pause play when video
<keymap>
<global>
<keyboard>
<play_pause>ContextMenu</play_pause>
</keyboard>
</global>
<fullscreenvideo>
<keyboard>
<play_pause>PlayPause</play_pause>
<key id="61448">stop</key>
</keyboard>
</fullscreenvideo>
</keymap>
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That's a friggin great idea! Where did you find the XML tag names for all the remote's buttons? Is there a tag or key ID for the voice button? I'm thinking of making that the context menu while fullscreen video is playing.
where you put this xml file
I have always used the Yatse smartphone app for kodi, even before the shield. Just use that, its worlds better anyways.
Neo3D said:
Which version of the AFTV remote did you confirm to be working?
AFTV-G1 bluetooth?
AF Stick?
AFTV-G2 WiFi?
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Its only the Fire TV stick remote that works.
I tried my fire tv box remote and the shield didnt pick it up.
silverblack said:
Its only the Fire TV stick remote that works.
I tried my fire tv box remote and the shield didnt pick it up.
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That's interesting, that's what I've read previously. I wonder why the AFTV remote won't pick up but the AF Stick will?
Hello guys,
I have been searching but cannot find the answer, so I guess it is not possible, yet...
The Pixel XL is more than capable of doing everything a Google Home device can do, but yet it can't. In the Google Home app on the phone, you can pair up your devices, but there is no way to say
"OK GOOGLE, turn up the volume on my TV", or whatever. Seems like it should be possible?
BTW, All Sony Android TVs (I have one) are Google Home compatible.
Mark.
I'm with you. Just installed Nest and Phillip Hues light both Home compatible and had the same thought. Let me know what you find out.
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I was able to control the light on my Philips hue setup with the google assistant on my Pixel from a different room. I had to set the lights up in the google home app first, of course. As for the Sony TV, I guess mine is waiting for an update that will allow voice control. Right now it doesn't see my Sony TV as a "compatible device" when I try to add it. I can cast to my original chromecast perfectly with google home or assistant.
error747 said:
I was able to control the light on my Philips hue setup with the google assistant on my Pixel from a different room. I had to set the lights up in the google home app first, of course. As for the Sony TV, I guess mine is waiting for an update that will allow voice control. Right now it doesn't see my Sony TV as a "compatible device" when I try to add it. I can cast to my original chromecast perfectly with google home or assistant.
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Ah, so maybe the same is true for me. I can chromecast to my TV but perhaps once an update comes I will be able to do more.
So are you saying that your phone can do all a Google Home device can do?
tx
Mark.
error747 said:
I was able to control the light on my Philips hue setup with the google assistant on my Pixel from a different room. I had to set the lights up in the google home app first, of course. As for the Sony TV, I guess mine is waiting for an update that will allow voice control. Right now it doesn't see my Sony TV as a "compatible device" when I try to add it. I can cast to my original chromecast perfectly with google home or assistant.
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My app only sees my Chromecast. Do you have the Home device also? Read you have to have device before Pixel will work as voice remote.
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As far as I can tell the assistant on the pixel can do everything GH can do. I am able to ask my assistant to set or dim the lights and it works. I have heard you can expand the control you have over your TV with a Logitech Harmony setup but I don't have one yet. The pixel plays music and casts netflix just like the GH device can do but only to my chromecast for now (c'mon Sony!). For the way I use it, it's like having another GH device in my pocket. I did receive my GH device before my pixel by a few days but I am unsure of why having GH before the pixel would make a difference.
error747 said:
As far as I can tell the assistant on the pixel can do everything GH can do. I am able to ask my assistant to set or dim the lights and it works. I have heard you can expand the control you have over your TV with a Logitech Harmony setup but I don't have one yet. The pixel plays music and casts netflix just like the GH device can do but only to my chromecast for now (c'mon Sony!). For the way I use it, it's like having another GH device in my pocket. I did receive my GH device before my pixel by a few days but I am unsure of why having GH before the pixel would make a difference.
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Hi
Interesting... so can you get netflix or youtube to chromecast using voice commands? What do you say? Do you have only one Chromecast in your house. I have three, and am not sure it would know what to do with a command to chromecast a movie on a specific app to a specific chromecast device, does it?
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Interesting... so can you get netflix or youtube to chromecast using voice commands? What do you say? Do you have only one Chromecast in your house. I have three, and am not sure it would know what to do with a command to chromecast a movie on a specific app to a specific chromecast device, does it?
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Yes but only to my original first gen chromecast. I gave it an easy name (bedroom TV) and added the chromecast through the Google Home app. It was very easy and intuitive. After that I am able to say "Ok Google play Stranger Things on the bedroom TV" and it casts successfully. You can do the same with youtube as far as i know. I don't think auto play works but that may be because I think I have it turned off in my global netflix settings, I'll need to mess with that. I cannot do much with the Google Home while it is playing beside pause and stop. I don't really use the chromecast in my bedroom anyway since I have that TV hooked up to a PC so for me it's kind of worthless. When that Sony update comes I will be able to cast where I actually watch TV and hopefully some more control will be baked in like volume, fast forward/rewind, subtitles toggles or maybe even some tv specific controls like video modes or input selection. Only time will tell. I am also pretty excited to see what Google adds for home automation. I would love to control my tp-link dimmable light bulbs and my wemo wall switches, not to mention the Schlage smart lock I'll be installing today, all of which can be controlled by Alexa.
error747 said:
Yes but only to my original first gen chromecast. I gave it an easy name (bedroom TV) and added the chromecast through the Google Home app. It was very easy and intuitive. After that I am able to say "Ok Google play Stranger Things on the bedroom TV" and it casts successfully. You can do the same with youtube as far as i know. I don't think auto play works but that may be because I think I have it turned off in my global netflix settings, I'll need to mess with that. I cannot do much with the Google Home while it is playing beside pause and stop. I don't really use the chromecast in my bedroom anyway since I have that TV hooked up to a PC so for me it's kind of worthless. When that Sony update comes I will be able to cast where I actually watch TV and hopefully some more control will be baked in like volume, fast forward/rewind, subtitles toggles or maybe even some tv specific controls like video modes or input selection. Only time will tell. I am also pretty excited to see what Google adds for home automation. I would love to control my tp-link dimmable light bulbs and my wemo wall switches, not to mention the Schlage smart lock I'll be installing today, all of which can be controlled by Alexa.
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Ok great, good info. I will experiment a bit tomorrow. Two of my chromecasts area also first gen, but I have never really tried giving voice command, and they are named bedroom, living room, so I should be able to do the same as you... cheers
mark
Before I got my Google Home for Christmas, I used the IFTTT app to control everything from my pixel. Location triggers pretty much suck, but all the voice triggers have so far worked 99% of the time. Not sure how it'll work with what you want for your TV, though. At least not without using something like the Harmony Hub (which I also got and have a HORRIBLE interface, lol).
I'm just not interested in the Home device yet. Have a Nest and Hue lights. I can control both with my Android Wear watch which is good enough for me. Nest app already comes Android Wear compliant. Use Hue Wear app for lights. Loving it so far.
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