Legitimate reason not to have KNOX? - Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Is there a legitimate reason to not have Knox on the S4 (that Samsung would accept)?
I had a Knox-free 4.2.2 device but recently when Samsung replaced the screen they upgraded it to Knox-inclusive 4.3. I didn't want this and want to tell them to downgrade it to 4.2.2 without tripping the knox counter (it can be reset by them apparently).
When I first purchased the device it was knox free and was not advertised as having knox - I wanted to keep my device that way, they added it without my permission.

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Root 4.3 Without Flagging Knox

Hi,
My Knox was tripped when i tried to update to 4.3 and did some next level **** (very very long store)
But then Samsung replaced my battery and some board which fixed my Knox back to 0x0.
now i want my 4.3 rooted but im scared it will trip Knox again
is there a way to root my 4.3 (UEMK9) without knoxxing it?
ty

[Q] root galaxy s4 i9505 android 4.4.2 Knox 0x0

Hi guys,
I got my s4 i9505 2 weeks ago.
After booting I updated to Android 4.4.2. After I did that I did some research on how to root my device and was shocked about what I found out. I understand that there no chance of rooting the phone without flipping Knox tag (thus void warranty). I understand that there is a way (saferoot) if you have a pre 4.4.2 rom which I don't have any more. I read in the Knox Q&A that there is a method called root de la vega which does not flip the Knox tag. But if I understand the thread right you have to flash a rom and that will flip the Knox tag. I am lost here.
Further more I read that Samsung sometimes refuses to repair even hardware damages if the tag is flipped to void warranty.* I paid so much money that I really do not want to take that risk.
I could not find answers to the following questions. Maybe u guys can help me:
Is it true there is no known way to root a s4 with android 4.4.2 without flipping knox voiding warranty?
Is there no way to go back to a previous rom and use saferoot without voiding warranty?
Are developers working on a solution or will I have to decide to void warranty if I want to have root?
What does the Knox 0x0.sh in root de la vega method do ?
Any help is much appreciated. Thanks guys !
There is no way the S4 to rooting without the Knox Counter to increase.
There is also no way to get back on Android 4.3 back.
To my knowledge there has not yet made ​​no developer Knox to crack.
But your device i9505 support triangleaway so you can clear your flash counter but for i9500 it doesn't support yet.
Sent from my GT-I9500 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Towelroot seems to be an option.
I managed to root my device Knox 0x0 !! Can you guys comment on that ?
Sent from my GT-I9505 using XDA Free mobile app
yeah, I used towelroot and no knox was triggered !! amazing!
rooting 4.4.2
If you are on stock rom you can downgrade your kernel via odin and use towelroot to root without tripping knox. Then flash back the correct kernel for your room. Knox 0x0 but device status will be custom.

[Q] Rooting options

Hey,
I have recently acquired SGS4 in place of my SGS3. I have used to change a rom every week, but now all I would like is a stable, rooted and .
I just discovered all the fuss about Knox and I am even more dissapointed. I really didn't want to buy another Samsung device (Exynos resources, SDS and their horrible overlay) but the offer on it was just insanely good compared to everything else to I took it.
Anyway, below are my current bootloader/firmware information:
http://i.imgur.com/G5pThnv.png
http://i.imgur.com/sl7M1VC.png
As you can see it is 4.3 from T-Mobile from november.
Now would you be so kind and tell me:
Can I root and modify my rom and bootloader on any custom without loosing my warranty?
If not, can I root and change the rom to the google edition?
If nope again, hopefuly I can at least use root with one of the latest Samsung roms? (without T-Mobile bloatware)
You live in the EU. That means that even if Samsung doesn't want to fix your device because you tripped Knox (unlikely that they won't fix it), the store you bought it from still has to fix it even with Knox tripped. That is consumer law which should also apply in Poland.
You can only root without tripping Knox.
You can not flash a recovery without tripping Knox, thus you cannot flash custom roms without tripping it.
So just root and flash the rom you want. You can even skip the part of rooting and just flash a custom recovery.
There are no downsides if you tripped Knox.

Q. Is it Necessary to unlock boot loader for root s4?

Hi,
I am new to samsung phones . I have s4 i9500 i would like to root my phone and install custom recovery . is it mandatory unlock boot loader if yes how can i unlock boot loader n root?
please help me
Thanks
Mahesh
Warranty will be void
Read the forum for the rooting instructions . i9500 has a e fuse , warranty bit called the knox , if you flash a custom rom or recovery or rom , the fuse is permanently blown (only in i9500) , and warranty cannot be claimed from samsung . This applies only to the Indian/Global exynos octa i9500 and not to the qualcomm quad core American i9505 .
@ankushv: All Galaxy S4 devices worldwide have the Knox flag (E-fuse) that is tripped if a custom recovery or custom ROM is applied. The only exception to this is if the firmware on the device is so old as to still have a flash counter, in which case Knox will not be present. In the case of the international models (I9500, I9505, I9506, I9507, I9515), depending on where the user is located Samsung may not be permitted to deny warranty service on the basis of the Knox flag being tripped. In the US and Canada, the devices there (e.g., I9505G, I337, I337M, I545, L720, M919) all are usually serviced by the carriers. Sometimes the warranty is honored despite the Knox flag being tripped. Other times, not.
@Mahesh8348, the only S4 devices with a locked bootloader are the I337 and I545, both US models. So you have no worries about rooting. You will however need to find out whether your warranty will be voided if the Knox flag is tripped. The local Samsung service center should be able to tell you that.
Knox Trip issue
@Strephon Alkhalikoi
I agree that when custom recovery or rom is flashed knox is tripped , what I meant was in case of i9500 the system status cannot be made official again (towelroot and chainfire) , but in the case of i9505 the system status can be set to official again .
You're mixing terms. Any S4 can be returned to "official" status simply by installing the proper ROM through Odin and not customizing the ROM by rooting. However, the status of the firmware has nothing to do with the Knox flag being tripped. Once the Knox flag is tripped and changed to 0x1, there is no way known by us to reset it. If a custom recovery is installed, the flag is tripped. If you try to install a custom ROM, the flag is tripped because you have to install a custom recovery to flash custom ROMs.
The Towelroot method is the only way to avoid tripping the Knox counter. But using Towelroot is rather limiting.
For the benefit of the OP, Knox will be tripped when installing a custom recovery or installing a custom ROM. It will not be tripped if using Towelroot, but you then cannot install a custom recovery or custom ROMs. Your software will remain "Official" only if it's not modified. Rooting will change the firmware status to "Custom". Installing a custom recovery or custom ROM will also change the firmware status to "Custom".
My Bad !!
So am I to understand , that if I install a custom Rom to my i9500 my knox will be 0x1. Which can never be reversed .
What will happen if I install stock rom again , I know knox will be 0x1 , but will I be able to get ota updates ?
I would like to know , as 2 days back my i9500 completed a year and now I do not care about warranty .
BTW My s3 and note never have this problem about knox , I guess samsung implemented stricter measures s4 and newer models now .
If you install a custom ROM Knox will be tripped (0x1). This cannot be reversed. If you install a stock ROM appropriate to your country and do not customize it, you will get OTA updates. I'll try to explain.
The CSC (Consumer Software Customization) is the system Samsung uses to specify the region the firmware is to be used in as well as any carrier-specific features that may apply. This is only speculation, but the OTA system compares the IMEI of the device and the CSC code of the firmware with an internal database on Samsung's end. If the two match, then the OTA update proceeds normally. Otherwise you get nothing. Attempting an update through Kies with an incorrect CSC will throw up an error message, as Kies is essentially the desktop equivalent of the OTA system.
For example, my S4 is originally intended for use on the UK carrier O2. It currently runs Danvdh's GPE ROM, but when I received it the S4 had firmware with CSC SIM on it (Slovenia, SI Mobil). As a result, OTA updates would fail, as the CSC and the IMEI did not match Samsung's database. Had I changed the firmware to CSC O2U and not customized the firmware, I'd get OTA updates. Personally, I'd just use Odin and upgrade that way, if I wanted to stay on stock, as I wouldn't want O2 branding on my device here in the US.
Knox is something Samsung added for the S4, Note 3, and all future devices in an effort to spur adoption of their devices into the workplace. In a workplace environment having a phone which cannot easily divulge its secrets is sometimes necessary, and this is Samsung's solution. It's a royal pain in the a** for us because of the warranty issues that surround tripping the Knox flag. But we are not the majority. The bulk of the Samsung device owners don't deal with these issues because they don't root or customize their devices.

Galaxy S5 variants g901f

I have an galaxy S5 plus (G901f) running android 5.0.2 on G901FXXU1BOC4. I searched all over the forum without finding answer.
I want to know if it's easier to root this phone on android 5.0.2 or on 6.0?
I would like to know if there is a method to root without loosing knox waranty or at least reinstall knox waranty on both versions?
Hi!
Root always trigger KNOX counter
Do you want still root your phone?
I really want to root, I always rooted all my phones but for example If it triggers knox. Then somehow I have a problem with the phone and want to send it to the warranty, can I flash a stock rom and get knox back to 0x0?
I meant is there a way to recover knox 0x0 status on a rooted phone?

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