Well, i was so stupid to flash the new stock 4.4 TW rom just to try it but after reading some topics it seems i am stuck on tw for now and can not go back to cm11.
How far are the developers on getting an AOSP running on the new bootloader? Or has anyone managed to go back to the 4.3 bootloader?
or is it possible to use the stock 4.4.2 kernel on cm11 and solve this problem that way for now?
johanveld said:
Well, i was so stupid to flash the new stock 4.4 TW rom just to try it but after reading some topics it seems i am stuck on tw for now and can not go back to cm11.
How far are the developers on getting an AOSP running on the new bootloader? Or has anyone managed to go back to the 4.3 bootloader?
or is it possible to use the stock 4.4.2 kernel on cm11 and solve this problem that way for now?
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theres no way at the mo but dont think its going to be to long
you can go back if you have n900w8 but thats the only model
jaythenut said:
theres no way at the mo but dont think its going to be to long
you can go back if you have n900w8 but thats the only model
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then I just have to wait...
I have the n9005 so if the crack the problem that should be one of the first devices
I hope that is comes soon, but for now its TW for me.
Just installed the google launcher so it eases the pain a little.
Hi there,
I have a Galaxy S4 i9505 with official Samsung 4.3 Stock ROM from a different country which I had flashed using ODIN a while ago. I already have my knox counter tripped to 0x1 because I had also installed custom recovery and rooted.
Would I be able to flash CM11 (Android Version 4.4) on to this and then if I don't like it or want to return back to this exact version I have now by a Nandroid backup, could I?
I have searched around and can't seem to find the answer and want to get rid of Touchwiz (like nearly everyone else)
Baseband Version: i9505XXUEMK8
Build Number: JSS15J. I9505XXUEMK8
Thank you in advance
LimitedStreak said:
Hi there,
I have a Galaxy S4 i9505 with official Samsung 4.3 Stock ROM from a different country which I had flashed using ODIN a while ago. I already have my knox counter tripped to 0x1 because I had also installed custom recovery and rooted.
Would I be able to flash CM11 (Android Version 4.4) on to this and then if I don't like it or want to return back to this exact version I have now by a Nandroid backup, could I?
I have searched around and can't seem to find the answer and want to get rid of Touchwiz (like nearly everyone else)
Baseband Version: i9505XXUEMK8
Build Number: JSS15J. I9505XXUEMK8
Thank you in advance
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Yes you can easily return back to the saved nandroid backup you have in recovery
I first started on cm11 before picking a daily ROM that was suitable for me
Happy flashing
11calcal said:
Yes you can easily return back to the saved nandroid backup you have in recovery
I first started on cm11 before picking a daily ROM that was suitable for me
Happy flashing
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I have read somewhere that if the build number is updated then you cannot downgrade or something?
Was yours a knox enabled rom and have you tried going back to it?
LimitedStreak said:
I have read somewhere that if the build number is updated then you cannot downgrade or something?
Was yours a knox enabled rom and have you tried going back to it?
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Apparently once you update to 4.4.2 you can't downgrade to 4.3 but IMHO why you would want to go back is beyond me ? Mine was on Knox after 4.3 ota but took the plunge & glad I did & wouldn't need to go back to an outdated OS. My baseband has stayed mk9 even after trying a few ROMs & love the smoothness of Google edition ROMs over cm11
I would suggest making the move over to kk & trying a few ROMs out there.
11calcal said:
Apparently once you update to 4.4.2 you can't downgrade to 4.3 but IMHO why you would want to go back is beyond me ? Mine was on Knox after 4.3 ota but took the plunge & glad I did & wouldn't need to go back to an outdated OS. My baseband has stayed mk9 even after trying a few ROMs & love the smoothness of Google edition ROMs over cm11
I would suggest making the move over to kk & trying a few ROMs out there.
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I have been on CM10.1 before and the only reason I went back to Touchwiz was because there was bugs with it and that's the same reason I might want to go back if I flash it now so I just want to be sure
I was thinking that if I update and my baseband/build number stay the same then I might be able to downgrade again if I wanted to later?
Absolutely hate Touchwiz right now but everything works too
LimitedStreak said:
I have been on CM10.1 before and the only reason I went back to Touchwiz was because there was bugs with it and that's the same reason I might want to go back if I flash it now so I just want to be sure
I was thinking that if I update and my baseband/build number stay the same then I might be able to downgrade again if I wanted to later?
Absolutely hate Touchwiz right now but everything works too
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I wouldn't like to say that if baseband stays same that you could go back for sure ? Touchwiz is just too bloated IMO that's why I decided on a custom ROM ?
I found cm11 okay but feel that kk GE is so much fluid :highfive:
I think it isn't possible to go from a knox-enabled rom to one without knox?
So I have knox-enabled 4 right now and guessing when I go on CM11 it'll still be there so when I try to downgrade I should be able to?
As it's not going from 4.3 (knox-enabled) to 4.2 (knox-disabled) but from 4.4 (knox-enabled?) to 4.3 (knox-enabled)
I'm not really sure but can someone give us some help .
11calcal said:
I wouldn't like to say that if baseband stays same that you could go back for sure ? Touchwiz is just too bloated IMO that's why I decided on a custom ROM ?
I found cm11 okay but feel that kk GE is so much fluid :highfive:
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So you was able to go from one CM11 to GE which both are on 4.4?
I think I'll update to stock 4.4 and then from there create another nandroid and move about ROMs? Would that work?
LimitedStreak said:
So you was able to go from one CM11 to GE which both are on 4.4?
I think I'll update to stock 4.4 and then from there create another nandroid and move about ROMs? Would that work?
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Yes initially I was on stock 4.3 then went on cm11 for a week or so then started trying out GE ROMs ?
If I needed to go back to official stock (warranty) I would just find & flash 1 through Odin :fingers-crossed:
11calcal said:
Yes initially I was on stock 4.3 then went on cm11 for a week or so then started trying out GE ROMs ?
If I needed to go back to official stock (warranty) I would just find & flash 1 through Odin :fingers-crossed:
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If you needed to go back would you go back to an official 4.4 or 4.3 then?
Do you think it would be a good idea to just titaniumbackup everything and Nandroid and flash cm11 and so if there are any problems I could just flash stock 4.4 and install all the apps back via titanium backup?
Would there be a problem with the bootloader?
LimitedStreak said:
If you needed to go back would you go back to an official 4.4 or 4.3 then?
Do you think it would be a good idea to just titaniumbackup everything and Nandroid and flash cm11 and so if there are any problems I could just flash stock 4.4 and install all the apps back via titanium backup?
Would there be a problem with the bootloader?
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If I needed to go official I would flash back to 4.3 as that's what I'm meant to be on.
Always make a backup before flashing that way you can reinstall.
Can't see a problem with bootloader even if you had to flash official I would just use chainfire to gain recovery/root again ?
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If I needed to go official I would flash back to 4.3 as that's what I'm meant to be on.
Always make a backup before flashing that way you can reinstall.
Can't see a problem with bootloader even if you had to flash official I would just use chainfire to gain recovery/root again ?
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But this new knox thing on the S4 means you can't downgrade the bootloader or something. So I think going from 4.4 to 4.3 is downgrading the bootloader? And so would risk bricking your device which is why I don't want to attempt it unless someone has done it and had to problem
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But this new knox thing on the S4 means you can't downgrade the bootloader or something. So I think going from 4.4 to 4.3 is downgrading the bootloader? And so would risk bricking your device which is why I don't want to attempt it unless someone has done it and had to problem
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You are already on the new bootloader with Knox triggered so there is no downgrading to old bootloader.
You are safe to stay on 4.3 but if you put 4.4 or cm11 on your phone you may not be able to go back to an earlier version?
Hi, I hope I can clear something here. If you are on stock 4.3, rooted and Knox 0x1, you can flash cm and you can restore your 4.3 backup. If you once triggered your Knox to 0x1, it's not possible to get it back to 0x0.
If you flash a stock Samsung 4.4.2 KitKat with the new KitKat bootloader, you can restore any custom 4.3 ROM. You can not flash a 4.3 stock ROM with Odin once you are on the KitKat bootloader. In this case you have to flash a stock KitKat ROM.
Another thing: if you now are on a 4.3 bootloader and you flash a 4.4 ROM, it could break wifi. But there are fixes possible with editing the build.prop.
So fact is, no matter what ever you do, if your Knox is already 0x1, it's not possible to get back to 0x0.
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Hi, I hope I can clear something here. If you are on stock 4.3, rooted and Knox 0x1, you can flash cm and you can restore your 4.3 backup. If you once triggered your Knox to 0x1, it's not possible to get it back to 0x0.
If you flash a stock Samsung 4.4.2 KitKat with the new KitKat bootloader, you can restore any custom 4.3 ROM. You can not flash a 4.3 stock ROM with Odin once you are on the KitKat bootloader. In this case you have to flash a stock KitKat ROM.
Another thing: if you now are on a 4.3 bootloader and you flash a 4.4 ROM, it could break wifi. But there are fixes possible with editing the build.prop.
So fact is, no matter what ever you do, if your Knox is already 0x1, it's not possible to get back to 0x0.
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Hi there and thanks for your help but could I clear this up
You said 'If you are on stock 4.3, rooted and Knox 0x1, you can flash cm and you can restore your 4.3 backup.'
I am on stock 4.3, did you mean CM10.1 (Android 4.3) or CM11 (Android 4.4)? And if CM11 then that would mean I could go to android 4.4 and then back down to 4.3 stock if I wanted?
And flashing a KitKat ROM on 4.3 ROM would give me that wifi problem?
So do you think I should flash stock 4.4 using Odin and then flash CM11.. and then if wanted I could just go back to stock 4.4? Would there be a change in bootloader between 4.4 roms?
Hope you understood this, thanks again
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Hi there and thanks for your help but could I clear this up
You said 'If you are on stock 4.3, rooted and Knox 0x1, you can flash cm and you can restore your 4.3 backup.'
I am on stock 4.3, did you mean CM10.1 (Android 4.3) or CM11 (Android 4.4)? And if CM11 then that would mean I could go to android 4.4 and then back down to 4.3 stock if I wanted?
And flashing a KitKat ROM on 4.3 ROM would give me that wifi problem?
So do you think I should flash stock 4.4 using Odin and then flash CM11.. and then if wanted I could just go back to stock 4.4? Would there be a change in bootloader between 4.4 roms?
Hope you understood this, thanks again
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If you want 4.4, you can flash the stock Samsung package including the newest bootloader and modem. Wifi and everything else will work then. Once you are on the 4.4 bootloader, you can switch between all 4.4 ROMS, stock or custom. You be able to Odin flash the stock Samsung 4.4 ROM again. But you can not flash a STOCK SAMSUNG 4.3 ROM again. 4.3 CUSTOM Rom is possible.
Remember: if you flash the Samsung stock 4.4 package, you have to root and flash a custom recovery before you can flash cm11 I suggest TWRP 2.6.3.1, works perfect.
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If you want 4.4, you can flash the stock Samsung package including the newest bootloader and modem. Wifi and everything else will work then. Once you are on the 4.4 bootloader, you can switch between all 4.4 ROMS, stock or custom. You be able to Odin flash the stock Samsung 4.4 ROM again. But you can not flash a STOCK SAMSUNG 4.3 ROM again. 4.3 CUSTOM Rom is possible.
Remember: if you flash the Samsung stock 4.4 package, you have to root and flash a custom recovery before you can flash cm11 I suggest TWRP 2.6.3.1, works perfect.
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Understood, Thank you!
Hmm, would I need to delete data and stuff when flashing stock 4.4? If it does, titaniumbackup backup/restore should work fine?
I will flash twrp custom recovery using odin but how about a root? Which root works on 4.4 with knox?
Thanks
LimitedStreak said:
Understood, Thank you!
Hmm, would I need to delete data and stuff when flashing stock 4.4? If it does, titaniumbackup backup/restore should work fine?
I will flash twrp custom recovery using odin but how about a root? Which root works on 4.4 with knox?
Thanks
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Try CFautoroot first. Then recovery. Restore most of your data with titanium should work. But don't restore any system apps.:good:
Hi ,
I just got my G2 Yesterday , rooted and flash TWRP right away on the stock 4.2.2 . I am tempted to try out some Kit Kat based custom roms now. I have a few questions
1-) Can i directly flash KK based custom rom ( after a full wipe of 4.2.2 ) ?
2-) Would i be able to go back to my stock rom via nandroid after KK custom rom ? i.e going into recover and flashing the backup again ? ( heard there are not custom recoveries for KK ? )
Lowresolution said:
Hi ,
I just got my G2 Yesterday , rooted and flash TWRP right away on the stock 4.2.2 . I am tempted to try out some Kit Kat based custom roms now. I have a few questions
1-) Can i directly flash KK based custom rom ( after a full wipe of 4.2.2 ) ?
2-) Would i be able to go back to my stock rom via nandroid after KK custom rom ? i.e going into recover and flashing the backup again ? ( heard there are not custom recoveries for KK ? )
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1-) Yes, kinda. Just look for instructions in OP of the roms. This one works pretty well: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2667714 (Only D802 there are LG KK Roms for other variants though, just search the forums)
2-) No, there's no custom recovery for 4.4.2 yet, but devs are getting close. Read more about that here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2667227
Edit: One more thing: You can of course flash AOSP 4.4.2 roms and will keep custom recovery.
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1-) Yes, kinda. Just look for instructions in OP of the roms. This one works pretty well: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2667714
2-) No, there's no custom recovery for 4.4.2 yet, but devs are getting close. Read more about that here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2667227
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So if i understand correctly. There would be no going back from a KK based rom except using the LG tool to flash the stock KDZ right ?
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So if i understand correctly. There would be no going back from a KK based rom except using the LG tool to flash the stock KDZ right ?
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Yes.
Un4s said:
1-) Yes, kinda. Just look for instructions in OP of the roms. This one works pretty well: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2667714 (Only D802 there are LG KK Roms for other variants though, just search the forums)
2-) No, there's no custom recovery for 4.4.2 yet, but devs are getting close. Read more about that here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2667227
Edit: One more thing: You can of course flash AOSP 4.4.2 roms and will keep custom recovery.
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Only AOSP? I just got this phone and I'm familiar with adb and the rooting/recovery process but does this mean I could install a 4.4.2 version of cyanogen or paranoid android or BeanStalk over 4.2.2 and keep my custom recovery?
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This depends on your variant. The D800 kitkat has been moded to allow a mixed match of partitions that allows the previous loki enabled recovery to run. This was released yesterday But Is only possible thanks to the release of the kernel source for the D800 from LG. Other variants will follow. In fact the D800 versions from AndroidUser0011001 and garyd9 will flash from your custom recovery, no LG Flashtool required
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Thanks guys !
I think its better to stick with stock rooted for now and jump to KK when all the necessary stuff is made available. So that jumping between KK and JB is easy .
guys i am having note 3
i denoxed
now i am not able to update to official 4.4.2
what do i do
can i revert back
please kindly tell the correct sugesstion
one more thing
if ive denoxed so can i flash custom rom ???like cm 11 or something like that
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freakzapster said:
guys i am having note 3
i denoxed
now i am not able to update to official 4.4.2
what do i do
can i revert back
please kindly tell the correct sugesstion
if ive denoxed so can i flash custom rom ???like cm 11 or something like that
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You cannot downgrade from 4.4.2 to 4.3 and if you have a 4.3
nandroid backup you cannot restore it either.
You will only be able to upgrade or flash 4.4.2 roms and newer
versions of android roms/firmwares.
Oh, one more thing there is no such thing as "denox" LOL
Good luck!
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You cannot downgrade from 4.4.2 to 4.3 and if you have a 4.3
nandroid backup you cannot restore it either.
You will only be able to upgrade or flash 4.4.2 roms and newer
versions of android roms/firmwares.
Oh, one more thing there is no such thing as "denox" LOL
Good luck!
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buddy i want to know can i flash stock 4.4.2 through odin if i have unlocked knox thing coz its showing custom in recovery
or will i be able to flash custom rom for 4.4.2
freakzapster said:
buddy i want to know can i flash stock 4.4.2 through odin if i have unlocked knox thing coz its showing custom in recovery
or will i be able to flash custom rom for 4.4.2
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Yeah you can flash Stock via ODIN or you can install CWM/TWRP and use a custom recovery. -- Make sure REACTIVATION LOCK is OFF before you do anything or it won't work.
Hey guys i want to know if touchwiz will be update to 4.4.3 or 4.4.4 or any custom rom becouse i have 4.4.3 pac rom but i want to install touchwiz for the camera but i cant do downgrade and there is not any custom rom 4.4.3 or 4.4.4 touchwiz. D:
What are you talking about that you can't downgrade? You can't downgrade official roms to a lower version.
You can flash any custom rom you want. 4.2.2, 4.3, 4.4.1, 4.4.2 etc.
Lennyz1988 said:
What are you talking about that you can't downgrade? You can't downgrade official roms to a lower version.
You can flash any custom rom you want. 4.2.2, 4.3, 4.4.1, 4.4.2 etc.
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What do you mean i can install any custom rom if im in 4.4.3 to 4.4.2 or 4.2.2 ? Only official roms cant be downgrade ?
JezZu said:
What do you mean i can install any custom rom if im in 4.4.3 to 4.4.2 or 4.2.2 ? Only official roms cant be downgrade ?
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Correct. You can flash any custom rom you want.
Lennyz1988 said:
Correct. You can flash any custom rom you want.
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Ok ill try hope i wont brick my phone ;D thanks for your help Lennyz