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Flashing CM11 on Knox-Enabled Device

Hi there,
I have a Galaxy S4 i9505 with official Samsung 4.3 Stock ROM from a different country which I had flashed using ODIN a while ago. I already have my knox counter tripped to 0x1 because I had also installed custom recovery and rooted.
Would I be able to flash CM11 (Android Version 4.4) on to this and then if I don't like it or want to return back to this exact version I have now by a Nandroid backup, could I?
I have searched around and can't seem to find the answer and want to get rid of Touchwiz (like nearly everyone else)
Baseband Version: i9505XXUEMK8
Build Number: JSS15J. I9505XXUEMK8
Thank you in advance

LimitedStreak said:
Hi there,
I have a Galaxy S4 i9505 with official Samsung 4.3 Stock ROM from a different country which I had flashed using ODIN a while ago. I already have my knox counter tripped to 0x1 because I had also installed custom recovery and rooted.
Would I be able to flash CM11 (Android Version 4.4) on to this and then if I don't like it or want to return back to this exact version I have now by a Nandroid backup, could I?
I have searched around and can't seem to find the answer and want to get rid of Touchwiz (like nearly everyone else)
Baseband Version: i9505XXUEMK8
Build Number: JSS15J. I9505XXUEMK8
Thank you in advance
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Yes you can easily return back to the saved nandroid backup you have in recovery
I first started on cm11 before picking a daily ROM that was suitable for me
Happy flashing

11calcal said:
Yes you can easily return back to the saved nandroid backup you have in recovery
I first started on cm11 before picking a daily ROM that was suitable for me
Happy flashing
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I have read somewhere that if the build number is updated then you cannot downgrade or something?
Was yours a knox enabled rom and have you tried going back to it?

LimitedStreak said:
I have read somewhere that if the build number is updated then you cannot downgrade or something?
Was yours a knox enabled rom and have you tried going back to it?
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Apparently once you update to 4.4.2 you can't downgrade to 4.3 but IMHO why you would want to go back is beyond me ? Mine was on Knox after 4.3 ota but took the plunge & glad I did & wouldn't need to go back to an outdated OS. My baseband has stayed mk9 even after trying a few ROMs & love the smoothness of Google edition ROMs over cm11
I would suggest making the move over to kk & trying a few ROMs out there.

11calcal said:
Apparently once you update to 4.4.2 you can't downgrade to 4.3 but IMHO why you would want to go back is beyond me ? Mine was on Knox after 4.3 ota but took the plunge & glad I did & wouldn't need to go back to an outdated OS. My baseband has stayed mk9 even after trying a few ROMs & love the smoothness of Google edition ROMs over cm11
I would suggest making the move over to kk & trying a few ROMs out there.
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I have been on CM10.1 before and the only reason I went back to Touchwiz was because there was bugs with it and that's the same reason I might want to go back if I flash it now so I just want to be sure
I was thinking that if I update and my baseband/build number stay the same then I might be able to downgrade again if I wanted to later?
Absolutely hate Touchwiz right now but everything works too

LimitedStreak said:
I have been on CM10.1 before and the only reason I went back to Touchwiz was because there was bugs with it and that's the same reason I might want to go back if I flash it now so I just want to be sure
I was thinking that if I update and my baseband/build number stay the same then I might be able to downgrade again if I wanted to later?
Absolutely hate Touchwiz right now but everything works too
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I wouldn't like to say that if baseband stays same that you could go back for sure ? Touchwiz is just too bloated IMO that's why I decided on a custom ROM ?
I found cm11 okay but feel that kk GE is so much fluid :highfive:

I think it isn't possible to go from a knox-enabled rom to one without knox?
So I have knox-enabled 4 right now and guessing when I go on CM11 it'll still be there so when I try to downgrade I should be able to?
As it's not going from 4.3 (knox-enabled) to 4.2 (knox-disabled) but from 4.4 (knox-enabled?) to 4.3 (knox-enabled)
I'm not really sure but can someone give us some help .

11calcal said:
I wouldn't like to say that if baseband stays same that you could go back for sure ? Touchwiz is just too bloated IMO that's why I decided on a custom ROM ?
I found cm11 okay but feel that kk GE is so much fluid :highfive:
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So you was able to go from one CM11 to GE which both are on 4.4?
I think I'll update to stock 4.4 and then from there create another nandroid and move about ROMs? Would that work?

LimitedStreak said:
So you was able to go from one CM11 to GE which both are on 4.4?
I think I'll update to stock 4.4 and then from there create another nandroid and move about ROMs? Would that work?
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Yes initially I was on stock 4.3 then went on cm11 for a week or so then started trying out GE ROMs ?
If I needed to go back to official stock (warranty) I would just find & flash 1 through Odin :fingers-crossed:

11calcal said:
Yes initially I was on stock 4.3 then went on cm11 for a week or so then started trying out GE ROMs ?
If I needed to go back to official stock (warranty) I would just find & flash 1 through Odin :fingers-crossed:
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If you needed to go back would you go back to an official 4.4 or 4.3 then?
Do you think it would be a good idea to just titaniumbackup everything and Nandroid and flash cm11 and so if there are any problems I could just flash stock 4.4 and install all the apps back via titanium backup?
Would there be a problem with the bootloader?

LimitedStreak said:
If you needed to go back would you go back to an official 4.4 or 4.3 then?
Do you think it would be a good idea to just titaniumbackup everything and Nandroid and flash cm11 and so if there are any problems I could just flash stock 4.4 and install all the apps back via titanium backup?
Would there be a problem with the bootloader?
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If I needed to go official I would flash back to 4.3 as that's what I'm meant to be on.
Always make a backup before flashing that way you can reinstall.
Can't see a problem with bootloader even if you had to flash official I would just use chainfire to gain recovery/root again ?

11calcal said:
If I needed to go official I would flash back to 4.3 as that's what I'm meant to be on.
Always make a backup before flashing that way you can reinstall.
Can't see a problem with bootloader even if you had to flash official I would just use chainfire to gain recovery/root again ?
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But this new knox thing on the S4 means you can't downgrade the bootloader or something. So I think going from 4.4 to 4.3 is downgrading the bootloader? And so would risk bricking your device which is why I don't want to attempt it unless someone has done it and had to problem

LimitedStreak said:
But this new knox thing on the S4 means you can't downgrade the bootloader or something. So I think going from 4.4 to 4.3 is downgrading the bootloader? And so would risk bricking your device which is why I don't want to attempt it unless someone has done it and had to problem
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You are already on the new bootloader with Knox triggered so there is no downgrading to old bootloader.
You are safe to stay on 4.3 but if you put 4.4 or cm11 on your phone you may not be able to go back to an earlier version?

Hi, I hope I can clear something here. If you are on stock 4.3, rooted and Knox 0x1, you can flash cm and you can restore your 4.3 backup. If you once triggered your Knox to 0x1, it's not possible to get it back to 0x0.
If you flash a stock Samsung 4.4.2 KitKat with the new KitKat bootloader, you can restore any custom 4.3 ROM. You can not flash a 4.3 stock ROM with Odin once you are on the KitKat bootloader. In this case you have to flash a stock KitKat ROM.
Another thing: if you now are on a 4.3 bootloader and you flash a 4.4 ROM, it could break wifi. But there are fixes possible with editing the build.prop.
So fact is, no matter what ever you do, if your Knox is already 0x1, it's not possible to get back to 0x0.

speedwayfan75 said:
Hi, I hope I can clear something here. If you are on stock 4.3, rooted and Knox 0x1, you can flash cm and you can restore your 4.3 backup. If you once triggered your Knox to 0x1, it's not possible to get it back to 0x0.
If you flash a stock Samsung 4.4.2 KitKat with the new KitKat bootloader, you can restore any custom 4.3 ROM. You can not flash a 4.3 stock ROM with Odin once you are on the KitKat bootloader. In this case you have to flash a stock KitKat ROM.
Another thing: if you now are on a 4.3 bootloader and you flash a 4.4 ROM, it could break wifi. But there are fixes possible with editing the build.prop.
So fact is, no matter what ever you do, if your Knox is already 0x1, it's not possible to get back to 0x0.
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Hi there and thanks for your help but could I clear this up
You said 'If you are on stock 4.3, rooted and Knox 0x1, you can flash cm and you can restore your 4.3 backup.'
I am on stock 4.3, did you mean CM10.1 (Android 4.3) or CM11 (Android 4.4)? And if CM11 then that would mean I could go to android 4.4 and then back down to 4.3 stock if I wanted?
And flashing a KitKat ROM on 4.3 ROM would give me that wifi problem?
So do you think I should flash stock 4.4 using Odin and then flash CM11.. and then if wanted I could just go back to stock 4.4? Would there be a change in bootloader between 4.4 roms?
Hope you understood this, thanks again

LimitedStreak said:
Hi there and thanks for your help but could I clear this up
You said 'If you are on stock 4.3, rooted and Knox 0x1, you can flash cm and you can restore your 4.3 backup.'
I am on stock 4.3, did you mean CM10.1 (Android 4.3) or CM11 (Android 4.4)? And if CM11 then that would mean I could go to android 4.4 and then back down to 4.3 stock if I wanted?
And flashing a KitKat ROM on 4.3 ROM would give me that wifi problem?
So do you think I should flash stock 4.4 using Odin and then flash CM11.. and then if wanted I could just go back to stock 4.4? Would there be a change in bootloader between 4.4 roms?
Hope you understood this, thanks again
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If you want 4.4, you can flash the stock Samsung package including the newest bootloader and modem. Wifi and everything else will work then. Once you are on the 4.4 bootloader, you can switch between all 4.4 ROMS, stock or custom. You be able to Odin flash the stock Samsung 4.4 ROM again. But you can not flash a STOCK SAMSUNG 4.3 ROM again. 4.3 CUSTOM Rom is possible.
Remember: if you flash the Samsung stock 4.4 package, you have to root and flash a custom recovery before you can flash cm11 I suggest TWRP 2.6.3.1, works perfect.

speedwayfan75 said:
If you want 4.4, you can flash the stock Samsung package including the newest bootloader and modem. Wifi and everything else will work then. Once you are on the 4.4 bootloader, you can switch between all 4.4 ROMS, stock or custom. You be able to Odin flash the stock Samsung 4.4 ROM again. But you can not flash a STOCK SAMSUNG 4.3 ROM again. 4.3 CUSTOM Rom is possible.
Remember: if you flash the Samsung stock 4.4 package, you have to root and flash a custom recovery before you can flash cm11 I suggest TWRP 2.6.3.1, works perfect.
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Understood, Thank you!
Hmm, would I need to delete data and stuff when flashing stock 4.4? If it does, titaniumbackup backup/restore should work fine?
I will flash twrp custom recovery using odin but how about a root? Which root works on 4.4 with knox?
Thanks

LimitedStreak said:
Understood, Thank you!
Hmm, would I need to delete data and stuff when flashing stock 4.4? If it does, titaniumbackup backup/restore should work fine?
I will flash twrp custom recovery using odin but how about a root? Which root works on 4.4 with knox?
Thanks
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Try CFautoroot first. Then recovery. Restore most of your data with titanium should work. But don't restore any system apps.:good:

Returning to stock australian 9505

Hey guys was hoping to get a little help. I am currently running foxhound 4.1 on my S4. The baseband version is I9505XXUFNA5. Its OS 4.4.2. In the process of flashing this rom according to the instructions on the dev thread said i had to flash a different bootloader and modem before flashing the rom. This process worked fine and i have been running without issue. Work has now decided that they want everyone on Android 4.3 so we can use apps they made to make our job easier so i need to go back to 4.3. I attempted this last night and when i try to flash a 4.3 rom via cwm it returns an error saying that the bootloader is the incorrect one and fails and i have to reinstall foxhound again to make the phone usable. Any one know how i go about getting back to 4.3 or where to get the correct bootloader and modem so i can flash them via odin and then install Androind 4.3? Any help would be very much appreciated.
Cheers Jeff

Nobody can downgrade from 4.4.2

WTF really?? Cant i flash 4.3 bootloader and modem and then go back to 4.3?

Artriel said:
WTF really?? Cant i flash 4.3 bootloader and modem and then go back to 4.3?
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Nope not at this stage cannot downgrade to older bootloader, sorry.
The best you can do is install a 4.3 custom rom. Try an echoe rom, version 12.1 the final bean I think should do.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2372286
Sent from my GT-I9505 using xda app-developers app

Root & Custom recovery for 4.4.2?

Hi there,
I have stock rom and just updated to KitKat 4.4.2. Any chance if I can get root & custom recovery over here?

which version of G2 do you have? if its D802 then u can follow this suggestion
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2681205

zekurosu said:
which version of G2 do you have? if its D802 then u can follow this suggestion
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2681205
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I look through and this procedure can follow if you are still in JB rom. But now, I already on KitKat stock rom 4.4.2. I just need to root it & download the recovery. Is IORoot compatible for 4.4.2 root?

i believe there's still no root or recovery for 4.4.2 KitKat LG rom yet..
u need to go back to 4.2.2 to retain root & recovery when upgrading using the method listed in that thread

zekurosu said:
i believe there's still no root or recovery for 4.4.2 KitKat LG rom yet..
u need to go back to 4.2.2 to retain root & recovery when upgrading using the method listed in that thread
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OK..In that case will wait for root + recovery when it available. No point downgrade back to 4.2.2 cause KitKat rom now is super smooth and fast.

you can update to 4.4.2 again after you have root and custom recovery
downgrade -> root -> upgrade -> be happy

There is root for stock 4.4.2 but U have to install it from 4.2.2 with that guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2680789
For now the downgrade to 4.2.2 is only need for install stock 4.4.2 and root then You will have stock KK rooted
for custom recovery for stock KK we must wait

lipaaa said:
There is root for stock 4.4.2 but U have to install it from 4.2.2 with that guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2680789
For now the downgrade to 4.2.2 is only need for install stock 4.4.2 and root then You will have stock KK rooted
for custom recovery for stock KK we must wait
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I tried this yesterday and nearly bricked my phone.I downgraded from 4.4.2 then rooted with ioroot24 then got freegee to install twrp..all was good until i tried to flash the 4.4.2 rom in twrp it keep failing when i came out of twrp and rebooted BAM i was stuck at boot screen and device would do nothing.
After hours and hours of trying all sorts i managed to flash back to 4.4.2 EUR open using the offline fix and messing with everything to get the device recognised in the flashtool.. even had the back off and disconnected battery maybe that did it but this only worked after attempting it 20 or so times the planets must have been aligned or something as nothing worked until then..Phew...SO be super careful is what i am trying to say.

I don't say "be super careful" I'll say if U dont feel good with that staff, READ carefully everything!
everybody got own story, is normal, and my story is short I think, but I'm few years in the "bussines"
After I buyed my G2 had stock 4.2 and I've put KK CM on it, after stock KK shows, I've downgrade to stock 4.2, rooted and installed twrp with no problem, then puting via twrp stock KK and root and thats it
the only problem I was have is with downgrade to 4.2 stock via offline method but that was my antivisrus blocked LG update tool (but I've managet it) and then rest was easy
In every GUIDE or threat You can post Your problem and people helps You, I know that by myself. but 95% problems is because peoples makes mistakes becouse of don't carefuly READ guids or help posts in threat, they only read last one post... and I know that with my experience

chaostan said:
OK..In that case will wait for root + recovery when it available. No point downgrade back to 4.2.2 cause KitKat rom now is super smooth and fast.
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"downgrade" doesnt mean you need to stay in 4.2.2, it means u flash 4.2.2 first to get root and recovery, then u can flash 4.4.2 and remain root and recovery, so end up you are using 4.4.2 and have both root and recovery

That what I was talking about about readings post...
Mate You wrote exactly the same thing that I wroted two post above....
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"downgrade" doesnt mean you need to stay in 4.2.2, it means u flash 4.2.2 first to get root and recovery, then u can flash 4.4.2 and remain root and recovery, so end up you are using 4.4.2 and have both root and recovery
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Unfortunately the second part of Your post is not true... For now You will dont have recovery on 4.4.2, only root but not recovery, the recovery from 4.2 will be deleted
plus one more thing that root for 4.4.2 not remain but You must flash it too, after flash stock KK... I've puted link to GUIDE two post above too, but like I said, peoples don't reads carefuly guids and posts...
we still waiting for recovery for stock KK

lipaaa said:
That what I was talking about about readings post...
Mate You wrote exactly the same thing that I wroted two post above....
Unfortunately the second part of Your post is not true... For now You will dont have recovery on 4.4.2, only root but not recovery, the recovery from 4.2 will be deleted
plus one more thing that root for 4.4.2 not remain but You must flash it too, after flash stock KK... I've puted link to GUIDE two post above too, but like I said, peoples don't reads carefuly guids and posts...
we still waiting for recovery for stock KK
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Follow instructions carefully and u will done it, many people include me are using 4.4.2 with root and recovery.
If u dont want to downgrade to 4.2.2, u dont get root and recovery, if u want root and recovery, downgrade

Show me where is recovery for stock KK? we talking here about stock KK, from stock JB, read the posts man, read the first page, is only 2 pages thread...
that Guy wants recovery for stock KK not for custom rom, recovery for custom KK roms is an old story
show me recovery for stock KK and I will apologize, for now U must read posts carefuly

restore 4.2.2 backup on 4.4.2 rom

Is it possible to restore the backup I made on 4.2.2 to restore the 4.2.2 rom? I'm on 4.4.2 now.
I made the backup with philz and now I have philz installed too.

tainka said:
Is it possible to restore the backup I made on 4.2.2 to restore the 4.2.2 rom? I'm on 4.4.2 now.
I made the backup with philz and now I have philz installed too.
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You can restore 4.2.2 but you will have to flash the modem:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2680948:
Return To JellyBean
It's real simple when you wanna return to your old ROM or your NAND backup (JB base). All you need is downloading the old JB Baseband and flash it, then your ROM / backup. You can find old JB Baseband here in @autoprime 's thread:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2451426

6ril1 said:
You can restore 4.2.2 but you will have to flash the modem:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2680948:
Return To JellyBean
It's real simple when you wanna return to your old ROM or your NAND backup (JB base). All you need is downloading the old JB Baseband and flash it, then your ROM / backup. You can find old JB Baseband here in @autoprime 's thread:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2451426
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I had stock rooted Israeli rom, I dont see its modem, can I flash another rom modem? Lets say europe one?

tainka said:
I had stock rooted Israeli rom, I dont see its modem, can I flash another rom modem? Lets say europe one?
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I think the stock modem only depend on the model and version of android.
But it would probably be better to ask this kind of question directly in the thread dedicated about it.

KNOX

guys i am having note 3
i denoxed
now i am not able to update to official 4.4.2
what do i do
can i revert back
please kindly tell the correct sugesstion
one more thing
if ive denoxed so can i flash custom rom ???like cm 11 or something like that

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freakzapster said:
guys i am having note 3
i denoxed
now i am not able to update to official 4.4.2
what do i do
can i revert back
please kindly tell the correct sugesstion
if ive denoxed so can i flash custom rom ???like cm 11 or something like that
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You cannot downgrade from 4.4.2 to 4.3 and if you have a 4.3
nandroid backup you cannot restore it either.
You will only be able to upgrade or flash 4.4.2 roms and newer
versions of android roms/firmwares.
Oh, one more thing there is no such thing as "denox" LOL
Good luck!

Misterjunky said:
You cannot downgrade from 4.4.2 to 4.3 and if you have a 4.3
nandroid backup you cannot restore it either.
You will only be able to upgrade or flash 4.4.2 roms and newer
versions of android roms/firmwares.
Oh, one more thing there is no such thing as "denox" LOL
Good luck!
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buddy i want to know can i flash stock 4.4.2 through odin if i have unlocked knox thing coz its showing custom in recovery
or will i be able to flash custom rom for 4.4.2

freakzapster said:
buddy i want to know can i flash stock 4.4.2 through odin if i have unlocked knox thing coz its showing custom in recovery
or will i be able to flash custom rom for 4.4.2
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Yeah you can flash Stock via ODIN or you can install CWM/TWRP and use a custom recovery. -- Make sure REACTIVATION LOCK is OFF before you do anything or it won't work.