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[Q] paranoid note user wanting to install paranoid android

if you read my last threads you will know i mashed my other note to pieces....
on my desire i would flash roms 3 each week without messing the phone up, so after messing up my note through formatting through cwm while on ics i am a little/lot scared about doing it again..
so i want a little help if you guys would be so kind :laugh:
i dont have the new phone with me right now, but this time i am going to learn how NOT to brake the phone before i start playing with it.
so could you please walk me through this, explain to me as you would explain to a child LOL
so as i understand it, i need to keep to gingerbread then root it, go into recovery and flash the rom from there? do i use the normal phone recovery to do this or do i have to install cwm?
i am a little worried about using cwm again tbh, or can i use mobile odin?
i want to know the easiest way, the most fool proof....
damn i was never this worried with my desire.
your probably thinking "if you are so scared then why bother" right? its just the phone is so damn laggy, even compared to my desire which was built by cave men
cheers for the help guys, asuming i get some ofcourse :fingers-crossed:

Start from a gingerbread rom, then fully root it and install clockworkmod, next boot into recovery(volume up+power+home button together). First flash paranoid android rom then flash gapps, lastly wipe data, cache partition and dalvik cache. Reboot and enjoy
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My phone just got delivered, I installed ics on it for a mo, I think I can go back to GB pretty easy when I want to can't I?
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Can i not just install franko kernal through cwm in ics and then flash a rom?
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mrcarlxx said:
Can i not just install franko kernal through cwm in ics and then flash a rom?
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Yes, you can flash from one of the supposedly known safe ics kernels to speed the process up BUT if you want to be 100% safe in flashing to any cm9, start with a gingerbread rom.
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Cool thanks, I will just do that when the time comes then, for some reason this phone is no where near as laggy as the last one, and I have all my apps I had on the other device plus more....

Welcome back mate, glad you got it sorted
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Welcome back mate, glad you got it sorted
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Lol yeah...i only had the phone a fortnight......on contract whoops lol
So is it still okay to root through cwm and then use mobile odin? Are there any decent roms out yet that have decent s pen usage?
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I also just received my note from samsung after bricking it with CWM. I am so afraid I might brick it again trying to install paranoid android since I have to wait nearly a month to have my phone back in case anything happen.
Just one question, as long as I'm on paranoid android, can I just format or factory reset my phone through settings or recovery or cwm safely? Thanks a lot.
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mrcarlxx said:
So is it still okay to root through cwm and then use mobile odin? Are there any decent roms out yet that have decent s pen usage?
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If you want to install paranoid, its cm based which means no touchwizz apps will work on it as they need the touchwizz framework. That being said, s pen still works fine and there are plenty of alternatives to the s apps (papyrus, memo etc). Also I've read that one of the devs is working on getting the s apps onto cm9 somehow, but not sure who or how its going. Also the cm9 kernel included for the rom is safe from the superbrick bug as its has the cap wlerase command disabled.
PA has a slightly different installation to other roms. I would highly recommend first installing stock rootable gb, root it and install cwm. Once that's in place perform factory reset.
Then download paranoid and g apps and copy them to external SD card.
Then FROM CWM recovery, you flash pa first by "installing zip from SD card", then do the same for g apps straight afterwards.
If you have any fc's or issues, enter back into cwm recovery and wipe cache and dalvik.
Boom, ready to go for full on paranoia
Its a truly great rom, very customisable and as ics should be.
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Thanks ST, so am I right in thinking if I go the cm route then I don't have to flash the kernel first. It will do it for me? So all I need to do is root it and get a safe kernel?
Is there a free mobile Odin app, I looked on the market but there is only the pro version...
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mrcarlxx said:
Thanks ST, so am I right in thinking if I go the cm route then I don't have to flash the kernel first. It will do it for me? So all I need to do is root it and get a safe kernel?
Is there a free mobile Odin app, I looked on the market but there is only the pro version...
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The safe kernel is included in the pa rom, cm9 kernel. So long as you flash it from cwm in gb you're fine it installs it automatically.
Think mobile Odin is only a paid for app... well worth it though. Check the forum, chainfire usually releases free versions to xda community.
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mrcarlxx said:
Thanks ST, so am I right in thinking if I go the cm route then I don't have to flash the kernel first. It will do it for me? So all I need to do is root it and get a safe kernel?
Is there a free mobile Odin app, I looked on the market but there is only the pro version...
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A lite version of Mobile Odin can be downloaded from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1347899
Exclusive to XDA users only.

If you asked me. I like the stock firmware not cm9 paranoid. Because you will lose your S-Memo, S-Note and S-Planner and also your myfiles and also the MHL. All of this features are important for me. Paranoid is cool firmware but you will loose this apps...
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SpyderTracks said:
The safe kernel is included in the pa rom, cm9 kernel. So long as you flash it from cwm in gb you're fine it installs it automatically.
Think mobile Odin is only a paid for app... well worth it though. Check the forum, chainfire usually releases free versions to xda community.
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Brilliant thanks
arifhanid said:
A lite version of Mobile Odin can be downloaded from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1347899
Exclusive to XDA users only.
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Epic Good Lad
ryn888 said:
If you asked me. I like the stock firmware not cm9 paranoid. Because you will lose your S-Memo, S-Note and S-Planner and also your myfiles and also the MHL. All of this features are important for me. Paranoid is cool firmware but you will loose this apps...
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I hear you loose some of the accuracy of the pen too, tbh I don't really use though apps much but I do use the pen fairly often.
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[Q] Recovery Preference

This may be premature, but now that we are unlocked and liberated from stock recovery what is the best replacement out there? I have used both clockwork mod and TWRP with other devices but does one have an advantage over the other with the M? Voice your opinion to the community!!!

PantherVT said:
This may be premature, but now that we are unlocked and liberated from stock recovery what is the best replacement out there? I have used both clockwork mod and TWRP with other devices but does one have an advantage over the other with the M? Voice your opinion to the community!!!
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I prefer TWRP, and it seems to be the best option for this phone. Use version 2.3, as 2.4 is still in beta and a lot of people have had issues with if. CWM doesn't have as many options as TWRP.

RikRong said:
I prefer TWRP, and it seems to be the best option for this phone. Use version 2.3, as 2.4 is still in beta and a lot of people have had issues with if. CWM doesn't have as many options as TWRP.
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What he said. And the cwm is pain in the ass to navigate with the volume buttons.
Hate the new backup system in cwm also.
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I use both, one of my Ms has twrp and one has cwm. I prefer cwm because backups are faster IMO, but either works
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where can i download 2.3?

I have yet to root the M yet. With my Inc2 I used twrp from day one that it was released. GNex I used 4ext which is also excellent.
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Outta said:
where can i download 2.3?
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There is a link in this thread:
http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/6444-installing-a-custom-recovery/
The TWRP that's included in the Unlock/Recovery thread in this forum has a link to 2.4, which is pretty buggy.

RikRong said:
There is a link in this thread:
http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/6444-installing-a-custom-recovery/
The TWRP that's included in the Unlock/Recovery thread in this forum has a link to 2.4, which is pretty buggy.
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Really? I may want to change that then... What are the bugs? Buggy recovery == bad
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sloosecannon said:
Really? I may want to change that then... What are the bugs? Buggy recovery == bad
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I haven't used it, but other people report that's it unable to restore a backup and freezes at "Creating MD5" when creating a backup. I think there were some other ones mentioned, but I couldn't find them.

sloosecannon said:
Really? I may want to change that then... What are the bugs? Buggy recovery == bad
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I've used it and it was pain in the ass. I didn't start flashing anything until I found a different recovery version.
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sloosecannon said:
I use both, one of my Ms has twrp and one has cwm. I prefer cwm because backups are faster IMO, but either works
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You ever get the "error restoring system" message while trying to restore on cwm?
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sloosecannon said:
Really? I may want to change that then... What are the bugs? Buggy recovery == bad
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Looks like someone provided a link to TWRP 2.3 in your [How-To] Bootloader Unlock, Custom Recovery Razr M thread. See post #141

PantherVT said:
Looks like someone provided a link to TWRP 2.3 in your [How-To] Bootloader Unlock, Custom Recovery Razr M thread. See post #141
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Noted. I'll update the op when I get a chance
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I'm dumb and I borked installing a new systemui

Alright Wtf did I do...I've gone stupid so forgive me.
Tried to rename systemui. Apk to apk.bak and it fc'd systemui of course. Restored my system nandroid backup. Tried to move new systemui into app before renaming old systemui. It overwrote the old one, but I still have a backup of the original. So it rebooted again, but I had the new ui. Everything was fine but the lag was intense, so I cleared cache dalvik and fixed permissions. Reboot again, now when I boot up it takes 5 minutes to load the clock and grant su permissions, then I get repeated toast of fauxclock and fauxsound being granted su probably ten times each.
I restored the original systemui again and re flashed Faux's kernel but no joy.
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Odin phone back to stock then do factory reset.
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I restored system and data, reflashed kernel, all appears to be well.
I want to know how I borked it. The instructions clearly state to first rename the existing systemui.apk to systemui.apk.bak. I did that, and I knew it would happen but I couldn't stop myself, it started fc'ing. So what did I miss.
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Planktron said:
I restored system and data, reflashed kernel, all appears to be well.
I want to know how I borked it. The instructions clearly state to first rename the existing systemui.apk to systemui.apk.bak. I did that, and I knew it would happen but I couldn't stop myself, it started fc'ing. So what did I miss.
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I don't think you can exchange or modify the systemui.apk without using ADB to "stop" the phone first. I'm not an ADB specialist but I think there is some information about it in the P-Rom thread in the Development section. Of course, I might be wrong about this.

Next time copy systemui.apk and the systemui.odex (if you are odexed) to your sd card then rename the copies to bak and then copy over thr new one.
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The problem is renaming to bak causes immediate fc's, so there's no time to copy the new one over. Can you rename a file through adb? That's only way I could see this working.
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Ive copied my systemui files to the sd and overwritten with no issues.
Use root explorer copy the stock ui fike to sd, then just overwrite the one in the app folder.
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Word. And does your phone auto reboot after you overwrite?
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No, I manually reboot it, ive done it a few times. I was on stock rooted when I did it tho.
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I am on omega now, I just copied systemui to my sd card then copied it back to the system/app folder and overwrote, didnt reboot or fc.
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Hmm.. I'm stock rooted except for the kernel. Screwing with systemui in any manner makes my phone angry. I just overwrote my original systemui I made a backup of before trying the new one and it went through and then auto reboot. My wifi is still a little funky. Maybe I'll just bite the bullet and Odin to stock/factory reset tomorrow morning after I take the kid to school.
Will Odin clear my recovery or kernel or is that untouched during the process. If om gonna go through with it I might as well go full tilt boogie.
Thanks for the help.
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Odin will not wipe, you would need to odin and then do a factory reset from within the os.
Is your firmware and basebsnd matching? Maybe the systemui file is for the mdl version?
Have you done the ota?
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Systemui was for MDL which is what I'm on. I might as well start totally fresh if I'm gonna do it. Odin to stock and reset to clear everything I've done to the phone and start like I took it out of the box.
Edit: alright whatever... Copied over the new systemui phone auto rebooted but everything is fine so far. Even wifi. What an f'n debacle. Never had so much trouble with a simple mod. Thanks for the help homie.
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Whenever changing out system files, it's preferable to use adb shell. Before touching the files, always use the command "stop". This shuts down android, but you still retain the adb shell. It's the perfect opportunity to mess with files like SystemUI or Framework-res.
Also, don't forget to delete applicable .odex files if you're screwing with system apk's.

See that's another point I become lost. I can't delete the odex file because I'm odexed. At least AFAIK. the ui I downloaded was for odexed roms.
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Can someone please clarify? I should not delete odex files on an odexed rom, right? I'm going to Google adb commands to learn more about it.
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Honest OP is honest.

Do not delete the odex file if you are not de odexed
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Slade8525 said:
Honest OP is honest.
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Hey man, I came from a world of flashable zips. Life was easy back then. I had to adb in to unlock my Atrix and that's the extent of my knowledge, and that was two years ago. I love learning. And when something goes wrong I have to know why, not just know how to fix it. I still don't know why renaming systemui to systemui.apk.bak crashed my phone, and it pisses me off.
Anyway, I appreciate the input of everyone involved in my ridiculous post for real.
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Hey man, I came from a world of flashable zips. Life was easy back then. I had to adb in to unlock my Atrix and that's the extent of my knowledge, and that was two years ago. I love learning. And when something goes wrong I have to know why, not just know how to fix it. I still don't know why renaming systemui to systemui.apk.bak crashed my phone, and it pisses me off.
Anyway, I appreciate the input of everyone involved in my ridiculous post for real.
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sorry, im not trying to be a ****; i had an Atrix 4G too, and that was weird compared to WinMo5/6/6.1 stuff back in the days. I really dont know jack about Android anymore; i did with older WinMo HTC devices, and enough to comfortably root, SIM unlock, and flash CM7 on my Atrix 4G and keep the fingerprint scanner working 100%.
However i do know that you should take care switching from deodexed to odexed, and thoroughly read up before you try, and especially post a question before you goof it up. Not trying to be hard on you; i soft bricked many a device; THAT is what i was referring to, really, when i posted. That ive been there, done that, and at least you are being honest about it. Not trying to be a **** or get down on you. I read a lot, and PM for clarification or specialized questions/instructions.
Mistakes are mistakes; we all make them, and these are crazy complicated devices; they are bound to happen. Best of luck!

No harm no foul. I didn't take it harshly, after all I stated it myself in the subject
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Do we have official clockworkmod recovery?

Got an update notification from the Play Store on rom manager app and then the newest update it says supports Loki. When you open rom manager and go to set up recovery it actually has the AT&T galaxy s4 in there. I was wondering if anybody use it or it safe to use?
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jaredcg said:
Got an update notification from the Play Store on rom manager app and then the newest update it says supports Loki. When you open rom manager and go to set up recovery it actually has the AT&T galaxy s4 in there. I was wondering if anybody use it or it safe to use?
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I personally wouldnt trust it
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Ram manager has always caused for issues then it has been worth. I would stick to doing things manually. This way if something goes wrong you know it was something you did.
Wayne Tech Nexus

If you don't want to use rom manager do it manually. It looks like standard and touch are both available.
http://clockworkmod.com/rommanager

fosser2 said:
If you don't want to use rom manager do it manually. It looks like standard and touch are both available.
http://clockworkmod.com/rommanager
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Noob question... How do I install this "manually"...
Do I install via Odin?
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peoples_flip said:
Noob question... How do I install this "manually"...
Do I install via Odin?
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The download files are Zip's. You'll need to flash them in a custom recovery, ie twrp or cwm. Do some more research before you flash anything. This thread isn't very good for someone not familiar with flashing.
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peoples_flip said:
Noob question... How do I install this "manually"...
Do I install via Odin?
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Read up first. Odin is for installing stock firmware. There are no short cuts. Plenty of threads on this.
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jd1639 said:
The download files are Zip's. You'll need to flash them in a custom recovery, ie twrp or cwm. Do some more research before you flash anything. This thread isn't very good for someone not familiar with flashing.
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I'm familiar with TWRP and CWM but the files available in the link are .img files... These aren't flashable via recovery are they?
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Read up first. Odin is for installing stock firmware. There are no short cuts. Plenty of threads on this.
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Thank you for your help :I
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peoples_flip said:
I'm familiar with TWRP and CWM but the files available in the link are .img files... These aren't flashable via recovery are they?
Thank you for your help :I
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The img files are used in goo. I'd download the zip file, recoveries on the download page and flash that in my recovery. That assumes you have a custom recovery and you want to update it.
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TWRP unable to load for anyone else? Have to try multiple times

I flash TWRP using goo manager a few days ago. TWRP starts in blue splash screen and nothing happens. I have to reboot and retry a few times for it to eventually get into the menu / options.

Why don't you try CWM
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Use Rom manager or Rom toolbox lite
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With these two Rom managers you will be able to install cwm
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Twrp sometimes takes a few minutes to boot for me. Sometimes taking out the SD card seems to speed it up. But yeah drives me nuts.

mxl180 said:
I flash TWRP using goo manager a few days ago. TWRP starts in blue splash screen and nothing happens. I have to reboot and retry a few times for it to eventually get into the menu / options.
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2.6.0.0 and 2.6.1.0 seem to both do that for many folks.
People seem to have the best luck with 2.5.0.2. Here's a flashable zip of that version:
http://db.tt/CZmXST5v

apexcell said:
2.6.0.0 and 2.6.1.0 seem to both do that for many folks.
People seem to have the best luck with 2.5.0.2. Here's a flashable zip of that version:
http://db.tt/CZmXST5v
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How do we flash this version?
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Why did you not ask this in the Q&A section....
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Son Rise said:
How do we flash this version?
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Since he said "flashable" I'm assuming just go into TWRP and flash the zip?

crap! wrong thread sorry!

mxl180 said:
Since he said "flashable" I'm assuming just go into TWRP and flash the zip?
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Lol im scared. I need a good source:
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For safe flashable, go-to Naddicts thread and grab em there. This way you know where it came from and its safe to flash. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2361378
MOD, please move to Q&A
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Questions and Help issues go in Q&A and Help section
Development is only for Developers to post work
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Thanks
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apexcell said:
2.6.0.0 and 2.6.1.0 seem to both do that for many folks.
People seem to have the best luck with 2.5.0.2. Here's a flashable zip of that version:
http://db.tt/CZmXST5v
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Never had TWRP just not start at all. 2.6.0 was slow to load, as noted above, but did load every time. I'm running the latest now, 2.6.3, and it seems to load quicker.

I was able to use it for a few days with the power and volume up key no problem. Then when I tried to go into the recovery it would not load several times and I thought I have no recovery. Then I went into the program goo manager and was able to easily launch the recovery from there. Hope that helps someone get back into a working recovery.
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Use phils advance recovery... iv been using it since day one and its perfect