[Q] Do I need to backup to flash a new custom recovery? - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have ClockWork currently, but want to get TWRP. Do I need to back up? And if so, how will I? Because i cant make a ClockWork backup if I am switching to a new recovery.

No backup needed. If you want to revert back to CWM later just download and flash the latest.
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OneChaos said:
No backup needed. If you want to revert back to CWM later just download and flash the latest.
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Thank you. Just had to make sure because I've lost data before.

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Can you reverse flashing a recovery image?

Hi Guys,
I'm a little new to all this so please bear with me..
Just rooted my MT4g and want to make a nandroid backup before i do anything. However i see that i need to use CWM to flash a custom recovery image in order to make the backup.
Is there anyway to reverse that recovery image back to stock? Incase i need to revert the phone completely back to stock...
Thanks.
Sorry, i think i found it!
I'm guessing this is it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=843289
Please close this thread if that's it.. sorry for spamming.
If you completed the root process then you already have CwM recovery. Just use Rom Manager to make a backup. If you have to revert back to stock the process will reinstall the stock recovery img for you.
shortskoolbus said:
Hi Guys,
I'm a little new to all this so please bear with me..
Just rooted my MT4g and want to make a nandroid backup before i do anything. However i see that i need to use CWM to flash a custom recovery image in order to make the backup.
Is there anyway to reverse that recovery image back to stock? Incase i need to revert the phone completely back to stock...
Thanks.
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Hmm okay. I did successfully root the device and I was following this write up to backup the phone using nandroid which says i need to flash a custom recovery ROM.
I just tried to backup current ROM and it gives me a message saying i must flash CwM recovery first and gives me an option to install it. But i'm guessing it's possible to restore that from the link in my second post?
You can use clockwork to restore your factory rom, but if you want to revert your recovery back to stock you will need to fastboot flash the stock recovery back on. This is assuming you have first flashed the stock rom which will leave you without clockwork rom manager installed. There's a few unroot guides that will help you if you need to send your phone back to tmo. I would suggest becoming familiar with ADB and Fastboot. That knowledge will give you more options in a pinch.
Swyped on my rooted MyTouch4G
Thanks much!
Yes i am doing a lot of reading right now, but wanted to make sure all the files i needed were out there for the MT4G already. Looks like the factory recovery is out there and it can be flashed back so i'm not to worried.
shortskoolbus said:
Thanks much!
Yes i am doing a lot of reading right now, but wanted to make sure all the files i needed were out there for the MT4G already. Looks like the factory recovery is out there and it can be flashed back so i'm not to worried.
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Yes all the files are out there that you would need to pretty much do whatever needed. Check out the links in my sig for some good things.

[Q] So..I have a problem with going back to my factory rom

I need to make a warranty exchange, but if I send my phone in, and they see its rooted, Im going to get an out of warranty fee.
Its not letting me recover to my back up. Im completely lost as to what to do. I need to make it look like Ive never rooted my phone at all
You don't really expect to get much help with so little information, do you? What recovery and ROM do you have installed? How are you trying to go back to stock, a nandroid backup?
Sorry. Guess thats kind of important. lol
Recovery: 3.0.0.5
themed ice glacier 1.1.4
And form what the person who rooted my phone told me, that I now cant get a hold of, I just install from backup that he had originally made, when he flashed the rom. Sorry. I know Im a noob. Been extremely busy to actually learn. Go figure the guy whos been helping me, hasnt been answering his phone
CWM 3.0.0.5 can only flash Gingerbread ROMs, and the stock image you're trying to restore is a Froyo ROM. All you need to do is switch to CWM 3.0.0.6 and you can successfully revert back to stock.
1. Go here to install this CWM version, which will allow you to flash 3.0.0.6 and older CWM, which you need to go back to stock nandroid restore (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=944681).
2. Go here for how to restore stock nandroid (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=845756). Make sure you flash older CWM recovery when restoring stock nandroid. After restoring, you can follow thread and instructions to turn S-on again.
NeverAlwaysEver said:
1. Go here to install this CWM version, which will allow you to flash 3.0.0.6 and older CWM, which you need to go back to stock nandroid restore (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=944681).
2. Go here for how to restore stock nandroid (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=845756). Make sure you flash older CWM recovery when restoring stock nandroid. After restoring, you can follow thread and instructions to turn S-on again.
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You do not need to use any recovery other than 3.0.0.6 to restore the stock nandroid image.
Awesome. Thanks man. Time to go bleed magenta. Hahaha
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[Q] Restoring TWRP backup in clockwork mod

Does anyone know if Clockwork mod recovery will restore a TWRP backup? I am an HTC EVO user so I'm use to Clockwork mod, the problem is, I installed TWRP before Clockwork mod was available for the Kindle Fire. This may be a stupid question but, thanks for any help!
ST3P_2 said:
Does anyone know if Clockwork mod recovery will restore a TWRP backup? I am an HTC EVO user so I'm use to Clockwork mod, the problem is, I installed TWRP before Clockwork mod was available for the Kindle Fire. This may be a stupid question but, thanks for any help!
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Since you have TWRP installed just use that to restore you backup, it's just as easy as CWR but touch screen rather than buttons.
I realize that but, I would like to try and switch to clockwork mod and try it. I will probably flash it see if it will restore and post my result here.
what u should do, is use twrp while u have it on, restore ur backup that ur worried about. than, flash cwm, than make a new backup.
but to be honest with you, I deleted my first backup and haven't looked back lol. what do u need it for?
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smirkis said:
what u should do, is use twrp while u have it on, restore ur backup that ur worried about. than, flash cwm, than make a new backup.
but to be honest with you, I deleted my first backup and haven't looked back lol. what do u need it for?
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I'll probably do that. Do you use ClockworkMod or TWRP?
I tried it and it doesn't work. So Clockwork Mod is nice but , I actually details used to switch back to TWRP.

TWRP -> Stock Recovery

What would the process be to go from TWRP recovery to the stock recovery?
There is a folder in my phone called TWRP and if I delete that would it delete the custom recovery or is the custom recovery buried deep in the system files?
Would I have to use odin to get back to the custom recovery?
Thanks!
Someone has already extracted the stock (MDL) recovery and posted it here somewhere. A quick search might find it. Are you running the stock firmware?
xBeerdroiDx said:
Someone has already extracted the stock (MDL) recovery and posted it here somewhere. A quick search might find it. Are you running the stock firmware?
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Forgot to provide some information:
Firmware: MDL
ROM: CM10.1 RC2
I don't plan on going back to stock for a while, unless I have a problem with my device but just want to gather some information ahead of time.
Would I use the stock recovery with odin?
The twrp folder just holds the backups. The recovery is part of the whole android system. Don't go looking for recovery or twrp stuff and just deleting it or you could Bork your whole recovery. Odin would be another way to return to the stock recovery, but the rest of your phone would be stock too. Why do you want the stock recovery?
jd1639 said:
The twrp folder just holds the backups. The recovery is part of the whole android system. Don't go looking for recovery or twrp stuff and just deleting it or you could Bork your whole recovery. Odin would be another way to return to the stock recovery, but the rest of your phone would be stock too. Why do you want the stock recovery?
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Ohh that explains a lot. I totally forgot about the TWRP NANDROID backup capability.
I don't plan to go into the android operating system and deleting random files I don't know. That's just plain out idiotic.
I don't plan on going back to stock recovery and stock firmware anytime soon. Just gathering some information ahead of time just in case.
emckai said:
Ohh that explains a lot. I totally forgot about the TWRP NANDROID backup capability.
I don't plan to go into the android operating system and deleting random files I don't know. That's just plain out idiotic.
I don't plan on going back to stock recovery and stock firmware anytime soon. Just gathering some information ahead of time just in case.
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If you forgot about nandroid and you haven't made a backup yet and you're still on the stock rom, make one now. You'll be happy down the road you did.
jd1639 said:
If you forgot about nandroid and you haven't made a backup yet and you're still on the stock rom, make one now. You'll be happy down the road you did.
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It's too late for that now. I'm currently on CM10.1 and didn't do a Nandroid backup. Guess I'll have to do odin in the far future.
Is Nandroid backup important if I don't flash that often?
I don't plan on flashing my device every week, maybe once every couple of months.
emckai said:
Is Nandroid backup important if I don't flash that often?
I don't plan on flashing my device every week, maybe once every couple of months.
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Even on the odd weeks I don't flash anything, I still make a backup at least once a week. IF something goes wonky or I accidentally tweak the wrong thing, a quick restore quickly fixes it and with little to no data loss.
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lordcheeto03 said:
Even on the odd weeks I don't flash anything, I still make a backup at least once a week. IF something goes wonky or I accidentally tweak the wrong thing, a quick restore quickly fixes it and with little to no data loss.
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Alright. I'll do a backup sometime this week. Guess better safe than sorry.
emckai said:
Alright. I'll do a backup sometime this week. Guess better safe than sorry.
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Do a separate backup of your efs folder. so important! More important than any other backup!!!
Download your stock firmware and use kies to do emergency firmware recovery. That will return everything to stock including recovery. Make sure you reset your flash counter with triangle away before doing so.

Backups on Phillz Recovery

Im having 2 issues with phillys recovery n not sure wut im doin wrong. I did a backup and when I restored it gapps forceclosed and phone wouldnt let me do anything. Secondly ive tried doing he create custom rom. It flashs fine but wont pass bootloader s4 screen. Need help. Would love to be able to make a flashable rom with my ultra slim rom n possibly have my xposed tweets built in.
TeamBlaze
Got backup to work. But still unable to get custom rom aka update.zip to get past bootloader. Anyone kno how to fix this.
TeamBlaze
If you're talking about the update.zip made from Titanium, it is NOT a custom ROM.
It is simply a backup of your applications (and some settings) you can use to flash after flashing a ROM to 're-load' all your stuff.
If you get your current ROM configured the way you like it you can then create a nandroid to restore it later if that is what you want. And without any info on what version of Android you're on, what ROM you're on, or what version of the recovery you're on there is no way to tell you where to go from here.
leaderbuilder said:
If you're talking about the update.zip made from Titanium, it is NOT a custom ROM.
It is simply a backup of your applications (and some settings) you can use to flash after flashing a ROM to 're-load' all your stuff.
If you get your current ROM configured the way you like it you can then create a nandroid to restore it later if that is what you want. And without any info on what version of Android you're on, what ROM you're on, or what version of the recovery you're on there is no way to tell you where to go from here.
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No. From philz touch recovery. In the custom backups you can selete create a custom rom from backup and I can't get tht to flash right after makin. Clean install n everything.
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yotaking said:
No. From philz touch recovery. In the custom backups you can selete create a custom rom from backup and I can't get tht to flash right after makin. Clean install n everything.
TeamBlaze
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Never tried that (make ROM from recovery in philz) myself.
I just make and restore loads of backups using Philz and TWRP. I consider a full backup (complete image(s) of all phone partitions) to be my ROM(s).
I would bet that with what you're doing that if, after you flash your custom made zip (and before rebooting) you stayed in recovery and then flashed (install zip) of the same recovery, rebooted back to recovery and flashed the kernel it may work.
Rebooting the recovery (or a battery pull) often clears out hangs.
Did you tried enabling se linux context from backup settings?
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do you have 4.3 compatability checked off?
same issue
yotaking said:
Im having 2 issues with phillys recovery n not sure wut im doin wrong. I did a backup and when I restored it gapps forceclosed and phone wouldnt let me do anything. Secondly ive tried doing he create custom rom. It flashs fine but wont pass bootloader s4 screen. Need help. Would love to be able to make a flashable rom with my ultra slim rom n possibly have my xposed tweets built in.
TeamBlaze
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I had similair issues with philz. idid a very improtnact nandroid backup and when iwent ot restore it didnt work. I definately like TWRp the best. Best UI and never any issues for me.
androidaddicted said:
I had similair issues with philz. idid a very improtnact nandroid backup and when iwent ot restore it didnt work. I definately like TWRp the best. Best UI and never any issues for me.
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I like twrp as well but dnt wrk on 4.3
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dewrust said:
do you have 4.3 compatability checked off?
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Conito11 said:
Did you tried enabling se linux context from backup settings?
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Imma look into these
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