The search in Relaunch usually finds only a small fraction of the books that match my search string, whereas the standard Nook search always works reliably. I have a few thousand, sideloaded books on a 16GB SD card, and have rooted my NST with NookManager. Have others seen this search bug?
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What build have you installed?
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I have Relaunch v1.3.8, which I suspect is the version installed by Nook Manager as part of the root.
On Google Play I can see a Relaunch v1.4.3, so clearly Relaunch is not one of my many apps that are automatically updated on my NST. Is there a good reason why Relaunch has not been updated? Should I attempt to update it manually or will I do damage?
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I have contacted with the person who is working on the Realaunch right now (username haron) and he said this issue appears only when you are in process manager. The Relaunch itself consumes very little amount of memory - as reported by vast majority of the users.
Yeah, you should update it manually, because actually it is being very actively tested and updated regularly at the forums here (however I don't know what Relaunch on Google Play you are talking about. If you this then it is completely different app)
The forums are in Russian, but you can find the links there which are constantly being appeared. For example, this is the latest apk.
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I don't understand what you mean by process manager. I do my book searching from the Relaunch home screen.
You are quite right about Google Play's ReLaunch - Launcher. It did install but is a completely different app.
Main_test.apk, which I've just downloaded from your link, does begin to install, after asking permission to replace the Nook Relaunch. Unfortunately, the install fails with the error: Application not installed.
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Try to remove (or backup) your previous relaunch version and then install the new one
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Please excuse my ignorance but am I taking a risk in removing relaunch, in order to update it? Without relaunch, I presume I can't launch any apk.
Can I do the delete and update from within ES File Explorer without risk? If ES File Explorer crashes, how do I restart it without a launcher installed?
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Hello all, I did this rooting http://nookdevs.com/NookTouch_Rooting and I'm not happy with that.
1. I cannot make Market working. It fails due to missing library.
This did not help http://nookdevs.com/Honeycomb_Google_Apps_and_Market I installed two files at the bottom of the thread as suggested. Vending application still not working.
2. Search in many aplications doesn't work.
3. no matches found for: null shows when I try to download a dictionary in colordict or even Opera showed this couple of times.
Many other apps work as expected but some of hey features are still missing.
Is it a good idea restore the backup and root with touchnooter? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1132693
I don't know if I can re-root with touchnooter without restore?
Market fix
because of this error this Market fix does not work either.
"blog.the-ebook-reader.com/2011/07/15/rooted-nook-touch-fixing-market-search-and-other-tips-and-tricks-video"
Installing the SearchMarket App
From the Nook Touch, open the Opera web browser.
Type “searchmarket app” in the Google search box located in the upper right corner.
Google will automatically show results for search market as two words so you have to select where it says “Search instead for searchmarket app”.
Then the first listing will be for the SearchMarket app at AppBrain. That’s where you want to go.
At AppBrain, tap the QR/more icon. Then scroll down a little and tap where it says install. It will re-direct to the SearchMarket listing in the actual Android Market to download and install.
Once installed, it will appear in the Nook’s app drawer where you can use it to successfully run searches in the Android Market.
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Hello all, I did this rooting http://nookdevs.com/NookTouch_Rooting and I'm not happy with that.
1. I cannot make Market working. It fails due to missing library.
This did not help http://nookdevs.com/Honeycomb_Google_Apps_and_Market I installed two files at the bottom of the thread as suggested. Vending application still not working.
2. Search in many aplications doesn't work.
3. no matches found for: null shows when I try to download a dictionary in colordict or even Opera showed this couple of times.
Many other apps work as expected but some of hey features are still missing.
Is it a good idea restore the backup and root with touchnooter? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1132693
I don't know if I can re-root with touchnooter without restore?
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do u try this one?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18150271&postcount=296
Market
Hi, Yesterday I deregistered the nook and rooted with touchnooter which works better than root image I used before.
Google apps work so far except Market which cannot connect. I'll try Vending.apk which you posted.
edit1: Newer Market works just as expected and I fixed also search with SearchMarket app. I thing touchnooter is a good choice.
Hi,
just got my NST today and successfully rooted it.
I am still waiting for the market ("server error"), so I cant install anything from there.
Is there any way to manually install APKs? There seems to be no file explorer coming with TouchNooter. Also, is there a way to manually download APKs from the market?
(Since I am not located in the US, the Amazon Market is not an option.)
Thanks!
rh
Do you have Super Manager installed? If so, it does provide a file manager, as well as APK management features. Unfortunately, in my experience using TouchNooter, Super Manager has not worked on the initial install.
I've found it just as easy to use another Android device to back up apps using Android Assistant, then copy them to SD or Dropbox to transfer them to my NST for installation. The advantage of Android Assistant is that it creates APKs that can be installed on another device without any other software.
I didn't think to try it last time I rooted, but what happens if you go to the Android Market/Play web page and tell it to install an app to the NST during that first 24 hours?
The problem is solved now for me, since the market started working. Still, it would make sense to include a file manager for other TouchNooter users.
bobstro said:
Super Manager has not worked on the initial install.
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Yes, same experience here.
bobstro said:
The advantage of Android Assistant is that it creates APKs that can be installed on another device without any other software.
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Yes, but how do I even select an APK without a file manager?
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what happens if you go to the Android Market/Play web page and tell it to install an app to the NST during that first 24 hours?
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During the market wait period your device won't even show up as a device on the Play website, so it does not help.
Once the wait time was over it did show up and then I could use this way to install SearchMarket, which then allowed me to install other apps directly from the NST.
I agree, it would be nice to have a file manager included in Touchnooter. Or even a simple little apk installer. I happily made several apks from my phone and transferred them to the Nook before I realised I had no way to actually install them.
In fact, if you're really concentrating when you read the Touchnooter instructions:
"You can always drop Apps you want into \nooter\data\app and they will install automatically when you root the device."
Oh well, the 24 hours pass
If you're stuck unable to search in Market/Play Store, keep in mind that once the 24 hour period has passed, you can pull up any apps you've paid for via My Apps. You can download those without searching. That's how I worked around the lack of a file manager for the 1st few hours.
I rooted my nook today and no matter what I try, using Opera Mini, I cannot get any google apps to install. I also cant figure out how to add a device to google apps. Since the Market app never works for anyone this seems to be the only way to install anything but there are no forums mentioning how to install it. I would appreciate some assistance. Thanks.
no one here knows the answer to this? i'm shocked no replies yet.
download gapps.zip and flash it.
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Guyman2,
Depending on the rooting method you used, there is way to install gapps, which includes market (google play - they are compatible in use, nothing being left). Check it on the proper post here in the development forum!
Earayil said:
download gapps.zip and flash it.
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I used Touchnooter. What do you mean by "flash it"?
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I used Touchnooter. What do you mean by "flash it"?
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Similar to how you flash the rom. Check the forums you will get the answer. Sorry I coudnt give the link. My data plan is slow.
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To more succinctly state the problem:
How can you get APKs out of Google Play without loading your personal device with a load of junk from Google?
I've got Google Maps on my Nook right now and every time I turn my back it's trying to do something (when not running).
Renate,
Gotta live with that. That's the price of having market (gmail always on the background, etc), but it helps the system runs a little bit better (apps upgrade!).
Guyman,
Look on the thread related to touchnooter, and probably there will be an option to add gapps to your system. Usually the 1st post show you all the options.
Have the same problem - is there a way to install market only?
What I'm going to do is install on my phone, extract it from the phone, then load onto the Nook and delete what's left over! Madness, I know.
A nicer way for me would be to install into a virtual machine and do that. Anyone know if that's possible? Possibly even with Android-x86??
I don't like market in this sense. It's a problem with all Android devices as far as I can see. Market is a bit of a problem in this regard.
I'm not sure about the problem here, but, I can confirm that, I rooted my NST with Touchnooter and market is working fine, I downloaded several apps from market and, I also installed some apps trough Google Play Store from my PC directly to the NST.
For me Market search didn't work after following MinimalTouch so I had to use the SearchMarket app from Appbrain. After this now I can search and install anything but still can't click the notifcations, OperaMini crashes back to the ADW desktop, same for Browser too after clicking a link in Google.
edit:
for Renate re: Maps out of control. Yes, I noticed too that it comes out of the background and wastes battery. 2 ideas: 1) Freeze it when not in use. You can use a Widget from Titanium or AppQuarantine for quicker launch 2) use something 3rd party
I also suggest using a different account for the Nook to any other Android devices you have to keep things separate and clear since the NST is not recognised by Play.
For a bare-bones root with an appstore, tinynoot ought to work.
I cobbled it together for the glowlight but all the parts are from the established NST environment - clockwork, su, busybox, adw, button savior, nook touch and nook color tools.
I include the Amazon appstore, which of course is also an app that likes to be always on, but none of the gapps because the framework for the glowlight stuff hasn't been looked at yet.
The install scripts are based on minimal nooter, which is CWR based file and directory creation.
I didn't include a modded uRamdisk because I find that adb wireless is enough on its own to let me use wifi adb (dont' recall if I've used usb ADB but I suspect it would work, in assocation with nook color tools) - I can shell in via ADB and just need to type su to get superuser.
Downloads and longwinded instructions are up at
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1650593
Renate NST said:
To more succinctly state the problem:
How can you get APKs out of Google Play without loading your personal device with a load of junk from Google?
I've got Google Maps on my Nook right now and every time I turn my back it's trying to do something (when not running).
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You could format and use one of my minimal zips instead of the full ones, they had only the neccesary apps and libs for Gmail (manual sync) and "Market" to work correctly, nothing more, nothing less, no maps, etc.
Now everything is a bit outdated, as I said, I'll work on this again and update the zips etc.
Hi,
I am kind of new to Android (not linux) and I am asking myself, if it is even possible to enable the search function somehow in Google Market.
There are several attempts to do so and some report it working. Unfortunately, the working reports are so old that I am confused weather it is still possible or not.
I have tried several Vending.apk's, even the ones reported working as http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15084704&postcount=51
I am on 1.1.2. Maybe someone could confirm/disprove Market search working or not. Then we would know if struggling is worth the task getting it to work.
Thanks for the reply
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Hi,
I am kind of new to Android (not linux) and I am asking myself, if it is even possible to enable the search function somehow in Google Market.
There are several attempts to do so and some report it working. Unfortunately, the working reports are so old that I am confused weather it is still possible or not.
I have tried several Vending.apk's, even the ones reported working as http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15084704&postcount=51
I am on 1.1.2. Maybe someone could confirm/disprove Market search working or not. Then we would know if struggling is worth the task getting it to work.
Thanks for the reply
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Use SearchMarket.apk to search for apk's in the market.
It work's if you have registered your gmail account correctly (that is your market.apk works/connects to google play).
http://www.appbrain.com/app/searchmarket/youten.redo.searchmarket?install=appwidget
yeah no, that was not what i meant.
Of course Market is working with a proper gmail adress. I was talking about it being possible to search the market w/o searchmarket app. Like people telling it would work, but most posts are still of 2011. So my question is: Is it even possible to search the Market in nowadays Google Play time w/o 3rd party apps?
Why is searching not possible? IMO, it is because of server restictions, not because of the Vending.apk. Right?
So I assume these "claimed to be working" Vending.apk's are not working anyway anymore, are they?
Thx
How can I get the SearchMarket.apk file for manual adb installation? My Nook Market app won't let me install any app.
Edit: Managed to get it installed by searching for it from within the Browser and installing from the web interface. Weird but after that the SearchMarket app was shown topmost on MyApps in Market and could be clicked, which begun installation.
The problem is Market for Nook only displays a limited # (~15) of MyApps (given I have a Galaxy S3 with 350+ apps installed and that the Nook Market doesn't restrict to Nook installed ones).
just download market search from gstore ....... log on gmail acc that u root ur nst with and go to google store and search ur appz ur desire and download to ur acc ....... once u connect ur nook to wifi ur appz will download successfully , between that i am use market seacher on my rooted nst 1.1.2 and works great till now , try methid above with reinstall market searcher
good luck
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Helix751 said:
How can I get the SearchMarket.apk file for manual adb installation? My Nook Market app won't let me install any app.
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Just in case.
youten.redo.searchmarket.apk
The apk itself is free so i guess uploading it here is not illegal.
I recently uninstalled (deleted) the apks of certain android apps like gtalk, calendar from my system/app folder on my rooted NST using root explorer.
Not sure if it is related, but, unable to install any app now from the app market. I use app-brain app market for downloading apps.
I'm able to find the apps, but on clicking on download, it doesn't get downloaded and instead says it is 'downloading' without any apparent change.
Is the problem related to the deletion of certain apks?
Note: haven't deleted any apk even associated with the word download/market.
shriramks said:
I recently uninstalled (deleted) the apks of certain android apps like gtalk, calendar from my system/app folder on my rooted NST using root explorer.
Not sure if it is related, but, unable to install any app now from the app market. I use app-brain app market for downloading apps.
I'm able to find the apps, but on clicking on download, it doesn't get downloaded and instead says it is 'downloading' without any apparent change.
Is the problem related to the deletion of certain apks?
Note: haven't deleted any apk even associated with the word download/market.
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I'm having the same problem. I was a able to download apps from market a couple days ago but not yesterday or today. I don't think I uninstalled anything in the meantime. Anyone have any ideas?
aknas22 said:
I'm having the same problem. I was a able to download apps from market a couple days ago but not yesterday or today. I don't think I uninstalled anything in the meantime. Anyone have any ideas?
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Solved it. I Had uninstalled gtalk thinking it was unnecessary on the NST but it broke the market.
Installed gtalk and the market started working fine again.
You are sure you didn't uninstall anything?
What is the error btw? It takes you to the download page but the download doesn't begin?
iOS have rooted my NSTG using glownooter and all went well in that it boots and everything is there as expected. Unfortunately I can see no way of getting apps on it. I have tried the following
-installing using browser, it crashes
-Opera mini does not work
- installing new browser, none available in market (I'm sure I've found dolphin there previously. )
-Amazon AppStore, does not work
-gmail attached app, cannot download
-email app, crashes
-google drive, box, Dropbox links in gmail, launches browser which crashes
-super manager crashes
I would really appreciate any help, all I really want is the kindle app working as the nook store is no more.
Thanks in hope
Frank
djchem said:
iOS have rooted my NSTG using glownooter and all went well in that it boots and everything is there as expected. Unfortunately I can see no way of getting apps on it. I have tried the following
-installing using browser, it crashes
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Disable the native Browser.apk (rename Browser.apk.bak)
-Opera mini does not work
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Not for installing an app. AFAIK, the last working version of Opera Mini is attached below.
- installing new browser, none available in market (I'm sure I've found dolphin there previously. )
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Better than Opera Mini (IMHO) although more ancient, is the Opera Mobile I've attached below.
-Amazon AppStore, does not work
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No, that is dead. Either uninstall it or disable the app (as for Browser, above)
-gmail attached app, cannot download
-email app, crashes
-google drive, box, Dropbox links in gmail, launches browser which crashes
-super manager crashes
I would really appreciate any help, all I really want is the kindle app working as the nook store is no more.
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OK, well, you've tried just about everything that can't/won't work
How about something that will? Copy the apps onto your SD card and locate them with a file manager (nice older version of ES File Explorer attached below). Tap the apk file and it should install. You can do this with the Kindle app as well. Unless you've got GApps working and can access the Market via the SearchMarket app, side-loading like this is your only recourse (well, almost....there's also ADB).
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Disable the native Browser.apk (rename Browser.apk.bak)
Not for installing an app. AFAIK, the last working version of Opera Mini is attached below.
Better than Opera Mini (IMHO) although more ancient, is the Opera Mobile I've attached below.
No, that is dead. Either uninstall it or disable the app (as for Browser, above)
OK, well, you've tried just about everything that can't/won't work
How about something that will? Copy the apps onto your SD card and locate them with a file manager (nice older version of ES File Explorer attached below). Tap the apk file and it should install. You can do this with the Kindle app as well. Unless you've got GApps working and can access the Market via the SearchMarket app, side-loading like this is your only recourse (well, almost....there's also ADB).
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Hi thanks for the comments. I would love to get ES file explorer on the Nook but I have no way of installing any apks so I can't see how I can side load the apps. Previously I have got the first app from the market and gone from there but there does not seem to be any apps I can use to do this. I'm guessing I'll have to investigate ADB.
Thanks again
Frank
djchem said:
Hi thanks for the comments. I would love to get ES file explorer on the Nook but I have no way of installing any apks so I can't see how I can side load the apps. Previously I have got the first app from the market and gone from there but there does not seem to be any apps I can use to do this. I'm guessing I'll have to investigate ADB.
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So there is a bigger issue. I'm not familiar with glownooter but I did look it up. Whether you used that exact same version or not, it sounds like you have the makings of Market access, not to mention abdwireless. If you can get the Market up and running then you can download any old file manager that will install just to get going, or you can get apps directly from the PlayStore (though the pickings are somewhat limited for Android 2.1
So what's the real issue? Have you tried the GApps sign-in procedure? Did it not work? The glownooter package is supposed to include Market and then you get SearchMarket from the PlayStore once you're signed in. From there, the rest is easy.
If you don't have any apps on your NTG like Market, or YouTube, or GMail, then something is not right about your rooting process.
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So there is a bigger issue. I'm not familiar with glownooter but I did look it up. Whether you used that exact same version or not, it sounds like you have the makings of Market access, not to mention abdwireless. If you can get the Market up and running then you can download any old file manager that will install just to get going, or you can get apps directly from the PlayStore (though the pickings are somewhat limited for Android 2.1
So what's the real issue? Have you tried the GApps sign-in procedure? Did it not work? The glownooter package is supposed to include Market and then you get SearchMarket from the PlayStore once you're signed in. From there, the rest is easy.
If you don't have any apps on your NTG like Market, or YouTube, or GMail, then something is not right about your rooting process.
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Ok, patience appeared to be the key. I checked after a couple of days and the ntg had appeared as a device on the play store which it wasn't originally. I now have a file explorer and Amazon. Unfortunately Amazon won't download any books but one thing at a time. Thanks for the help, Frank.
djchem said:
Ok, patience appeared to be the key. I checked after a couple of days and the ntg had appeared as a device on the play store which it wasn't originally. I now have a file explorer and Amazon. Unfortunately Amazon won't download any books but one thing at a time. Thanks for the help, Frank.
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Good! Yes, the PlayStore dance takes time for whatever reason.
If by "Amazon" you mean Kindle, then you will need to update your certificates in order to interface with the books you have stored with Amazon. See here for more info.
nmyshkin said:
Good! Yes, the PlayStore dance takes time for whatever reason.
If by "Amazon" you mean Kindle, then you will need to update your certificates in order to interface with the books you have stored with Amazon. See here for more info.
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Yeah, got it sorted! Thanks for the help, updated the caverns.bks file and all is good!
Thanks again
Frank
How to rename-to-"remove" apps.
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Disable the native Browser.apk (rename Browser.apk.bak)
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Hi, I'm a very new user here. How do I rename this like you suggest? I've tried doing it through the adb shell (via ADB Konnect utility) and it complained about being read-only (yes, I am root and even su'ed to be sure)
# mv Browser.apk Browser.apk.bak
failed on 'Browser.apk' - Read-only file system
Then, I installed ES File Explorer (v3.1.0.1) and tried doing it through that interface, where it complained simply "Task failed". Then, I thought "wait...I should make sure I have root permissions given to this app", found the setting, got root, tried again and got a message indicating success! Except...the file didn't actually get renamed.
I'm out of ideas and time for now. Help is greatly appreciated!
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Hi, I'm a very new user here. How do I rename this like you suggest? I've tried doing it through the adb shell (via ADB Konnect utility) and it complained about being read-only (yes, I am root and even su'ed to be sure)
# mv Browser.apk Browser.apk.bak
failed on 'Browser.apk' - Read-only file system
Then, I installed ES File Explorer (v3.1.0.1) and tried doing it through that interface, where it complained simply "Task failed". Then, I thought "wait...I should make sure I have root permissions given to this app", found the setting, got root, tried again and got a message indicating success! Except...the file didn't actually get renamed.
I'm out of ideas and time for now. Help is greatly appreciated!
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I have not used adb to rename, but I have used both Root Browser and ES File Explorer to rename apk files (never know when you might want it back....) without any problem. It should not be necessary to change the permissions on the system/app or data/app folders--or the apk files themselves. The file explorers do require root access, but it sounds like you have that covered.
I am a little distrustful of the newer ES File Explorers, as they are mucho bloated and troublesome to use on the NST/NTG sometimes. Maybe try the one attached to this post? It's what I finally settled on (but you have to go to SearchMarket first and mark ES FE as "do not autoupdate" or the older version will just be wiped out).
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Maybe try the one attached to this post? It's what I finally settled on (but you have to go to SearchMarket first and mark ES FE as "do not autoupdate" or the older version will just be wiped out).
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Thanks. Yeah, I tried that one out earlier, but I couldn't see right away how to browse around in / like I could easily do in a 3.* version of ES FE which I had tried out first. Will play around with it more now...GOT IT! :laugh:
I'm also intent on disabling the Amazon Appstore now, but I can't figure out which apk(s) to rename. Should I just do a regular uninstall then?
While at it, I disabled some of the apps recommended here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1933615) because I saw how damn much the phone utilities were killing my battery life!!
So I can't find the thread where I found this earlier, but here are a ton of older versions of that apk if anyone things that's useful: http[://]es-file-explorer.en.uptodown[dot]com/android/old (sorry, about the [dot] stuff, as a new user I can't post external URLs yet).
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Thanks. Yeah, I tried that one out earlier, but I couldn't see right away how to browse around in / like I could easily do in a 3.* version of ES FE which I had tried out first. Will play around with it more now...GOT IT! :laugh:
I'm also intent on disabling the Amazon Appstore now, but I can't figure out which apk(s) to rename. Should I just do a regular uninstall then?
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It's something like com.venezia...blah-blah...near the end of the app list in data/apps. Just uninstall it. When it was still working back in the old days it was always giving me trouble with nags of one sort or another. It's just one piece and useless so might as well uninstall.
While at it, I disabled some of the apps recommended here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1933615) because I saw how damn much the phone utilities were killing my battery life!!
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You might be surprised about some of the "phone stuff" and power consumption. The mechanism for reporting battery use on the NST leaves something to be desired. See my post here. In any case, the actual phone.apk is responsible for android media volume control so if you ever pursue USB Audio, you'll need it. The telephony.apk, not needed.
So I can't find the thread where I found this earlier, but here are a ton of older versions of that apk if anyone things that's useful: http[://]es-file-explorer.en.uptodown[dot]com/android/old (sorry, about the [dot] stuff, as a new user I can't post external URLs yet).
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Ya, that was from me There are a number of threads with packages/lists/links of older versions/working versions of apps. One of the more recent is here.
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It's something like com.venezia...blah-blah...near the end of the app list in data/apps.
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There it is...ended up being called com.android.venezia.apk. I deleted it from the ES FE interface after failing to be able to do it through adb uninstall on my computer. Still need to figure out how to get write permissions there, apparently.a
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In any case, the actual phone.apk is responsible for android media volume control so if you ever pursue USB Audio, you'll need it.
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Yeah, that sounds fun! I'll get there eventually, I hope.
Thanks for all the info!