I've seen numerous people ask about this but it's always either ignored or put down. I just want to understand once and for all, since I constantly see screenshots of folks running Omnirom that have the white accents as opposed to blue throughout the system theme. I'm pretty sure some screenshots from the Omnirom developers themselves I've seen even have this. Though all nightlies I've downloaded have had the blue so I'm incredibly confused. I prefer the consistent white. Can someone clear this up for me?
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I've seen numerous people ask about this but it's always either ignored or put down. I just want to understand once and for all, since I constantly see screenshots of folks running Omnirom that have the white accents as opposed to blue throughout the system theme. I'm pretty sure some screenshots from the Omnirom developers themselves I've seen even have this. Though all nightlies I've downloaded have had the blue so I'm incredibly confused. I prefer the consistent white. Can someone clear this up for me?
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Statusbar and such are white. Things that use the "default" Holo themes (Settings is a good example of this) will still be blue. This is by design from Google - same as their own official firmwares.
Changing these aspects will also impact any app running on the system, and as a result, we will *not* be changing the default configuration Google implemented here.
At some point we'll bring back theme engine support (not necessarily the classic T-Mobile theme engine, we're considering the ChameleonOS theme engine as an alternative) that allows the defaults to be overridden, but until then, we can't risk that changing the defaults will have unintended consequences (such as the app breakage that resulted from Samsung mucking with the system themes on some of their devices.)
@gkassee37 -- I really, really dislike that blue. Always have, for some reason.
I wish it was as easy as just globally replacing one hex code with another. It's pretty much a "one-liner" to do -- just one command typed at a terminal. Arguably not a trivial command line to craft, but still not a complex task.
While I'm an "in the code" kind of guy, I totally respect the work of the better "themers" out there as there are so many things they need to check and make sure all are still usable, not just looking good.
Let's say that you did just replace all the ugly blue codes with shiny, bright white.
What happens if you have an element on a white background?
How do you tell that it is "on" or "active" or what have you? All of a sudden, it just disappears.
What if it isn't even in the "system" or a system app? You've got some third-party app that is depending on a core widget of some sort and is rendering it on a white background...
To do it right, you really have to look at each element in the UI and make sure that you have done something reasonable. I'll let the Google folks do that if it means that the OmniROM team can focus on a stable, fast, and usable ROM for my phone.
as much as I hate that blue.
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@gkassee37 -- I really, really dislike that blue. Always have, for some reason.
I wish it was as easy as just globally replacing one hex code with another. It's pretty much a "one-liner" to do -- just one command typed at a terminal. Arguably not a trivial command line to craft, but still not a complex task.
While I'm an "in the code" kind of guy, I totally respect the work of the better "themers" out there as there are so many things they need to check and make sure all are still usable, not just looking good.
Let's say that you did just replace all the ugly blue codes with shiny, bright white.
What happens if you have an element on a white background?
How do you tell that it is "on" or "active" or what have you? All of a sudden, it just disappears.
What if it isn't even in the "system" or a system app? You've got some third-party app that is depending on a core widget of some sort and is rendering it on a white background...
To do it right, you really have to look at each element in the UI and make sure that you have done something reasonable. I'll let the Google folks do that if it means that the OmniROM team can focus on a stable, fast, and usable ROM for my phone.
as much as I hate that blue.
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Yup. That's pretty much it. A number of those blue items are highly likely to get rendered against white by an app. End result could be really nasty. (Many of the themes out there break horribly with some apps... And from memory, the "all white" themes have a bad habit of being the most likely to break.)
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I'm sure you all know our Vibrant's SUPERAMOLED uses much less/no power when dysplaying black and a TON of power when having to dysplay white pixels.
You also all know that most websites are white with black text. My idea is to invert this in browsers such as DolphinHD, the default Android Browser, and whatever other browsers there are.
How would it work? Ideally as a browser plug in (DolphinHD already supports addons) that inverts background color on websites if it detects white and inverts text color to white. It would NOT touch any other color nor the images, video, animations on websites. Just the static background would be black if it's white by default and the text would be white.
That way, a lot of power will be conserved, even on full screen brightness.
Since I do not have the time or expertise to do this, I am just offering the idea for a dev to look into if interested.
Good idea but what about black within photos and such? that'd be insane.
Umm...Inverting colors in photos would just ruin the pictures I think.
I was talking about making the addon look for the html/php/etc tags that specify color for the background and text of a page upon load and alter them before passing it to the browser to load.
Just change the white background to black, and white text to black. No need to invert colors.
Some one must be able to do this... come on!
Looking desperately for the same funcionality!
I think that is a great Idea, I was thinking about that. In the app youverison
It's a bible app. They have a low light setting, turns background black and font white.. I was thinking how great that would be for web browsing.. it seems like an impossible task.
Somebody posted a thread about this a while back. I would love to see oit done, easier on the eyes as well as battery. Steel had this option for one version a while back, or it might have been Dolphin, so it can be done. Adilko and most of the Ereaders have this functionality.
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I am using Galaxy S I9000 and I would love such an app. One of my favt website popurls.com is one such site, uses black background and blue text. Also Blackle is a website which is Google Search with black background. Gr8 idea. Wish some developers are reading it.
There should b a quick button for inverting the colors. So that it can b turned off when not required.
I got in touch with the DolphinHD team, and feedback looks promising. Probably I will write the add-on myself so stay tuned!
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Have you tried using cyanogen's screen rendering app? You can choose to render the screen in different colors my G1 has it. I can render the screen in red. I haven't seen this porter to the vibrant though.
h t t p : / / ariya . blogspot . com/2010/10/color-inversion-for-web-pages.html
I created a bookmarklet to invert colors for people using the stock browser, and perhaps more... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17149892#post17149892
This is already built into cm7's browser....
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This is already built into cm7's browser....
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yeah, i acknowledge that in the linked post... unfortunately no complete CM7 yet for Epic4G. hopefully this helps out somebody else like me still running modded stock roms.
Hey guys,
I've had my Nexus for just over a month now and apart from a few minor issues I'm really enjoying my experience with my Nexus.
BUT: One thing that really p*sses me off is the total waste of screen real estate being the "on screen buttons". I can sort of understand the device having as few as possible buttons is pretty cool but when it starts invading your screen size that is NOT COOL.
I have a few questions for google: Why oh why did you make the background for the navigation buttons black?? Why not transparent? Or transparent with a blur effect? Personally I would prefer just transparent with faint white back, home and app switcher buttons. It would make more of the screen available to see.
If I were to root my device, are these things that i could schange in the System or Framework RES folders? Or would it be much more complicated than that (i.e. changing color hex's in .xml files?)?
Search for how to enable the tablet UI. I had to enlarge the font to make things a bit more comfortable for me, but I really do like the true tablet UI.
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Hey guys,
I've had my Nexus for just over a month now and apart from a few minor issues I'm really enjoying my experience with my Nexus.
BUT: One thing that really p*sses me off is the total waste of screen real estate being the "on screen buttons". I can sort of understand the device having as few as possible buttons is pretty cool but when it starts invading your screen size that is NOT COOL.
I have a few questions for google: Why oh why did you make the background for the navigation buttons black?? Why not transparent? Or transparent with a blur effect? Personally I would prefer just transparent with faint white back, home and app switcher buttons. It would make more of the screen available to see.
If I were to root my device, are these things that i could schange in the System or Framework RES folders? Or would it be much more complicated than that (i.e. changing color hex's in .xml files?)?
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You can make it smaller.
Here's a guide.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1844878
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Hmm, nearly, but I still don't understand why the navbar background color has to be black, I just really don't get what the advantage is. It would just make so much more sense if it were see through.
sikodemon said:
Hmm, nearly, but I still don't understand why the navbar background color has to be black, I just really don't get what the advantage is. It would just make so much more sense if it were see through.
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Maybe it was carried over from the gnex.
It's black on the gnex to take advantage of the AMOLED screen.
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sikodemon said:
Hmm, nearly, but I still don't understand why the navbar background color has to be black, I just really don't get what the advantage is. It would just make so much more sense if it were see through.
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Presumably it is because it is dead space. Applications don't/can't expand into that area as it is protected. For example if you had an application open to the maximum behind translucent soft buttons, and that application required you to press something towards its bottom edge, you can't as it is now behind the menu buttons.
Ideally the buttons would be below the display and printed onto the touch screen as they are with my HTC One X, presumably they are not for either cost reasons or flexibility of the design.
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sikodemon said:
Hmm, nearly, but I still don't understand why the navbar background color has to be black, I just really don't get what the advantage is. It would just make so much more sense if it were see through.
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I'd guess that it doesn't make sense for it to be transparent because there is nothing under the navbar. Its a part of the screen that is separate from the application, if you allowed the navbar to be imposed over the application and transparent then the bottom part of the screen would be unusable in the application because touching it would activate the navbar buttons rather than the applications.
That said on the launcher it would be easy to just extend the wallpaper over the navbar and make it transparent and in apps you could colour the navbar with the average colour of the application background etc, though of course Apple has a patent waiting for that http://www.phonearena.com/news/Appl...xed-video_id34472?ratelimit=-10&sort=threaded
Not true because you can hide the nav bar on certain roms and that space it was using up is definitely usable. Hey OP I forgot what it's called but there's a launcher somewhere based on nothing but gestures so you don't even need a nav bar and you can use that extra screen space you seem to desperately need.
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sikodemon said:
Hey guys,
I've had my Nexus for just over a month now and apart from a few minor issues I'm really enjoying my experience with my Nexus.
BUT: One thing that really p*sses me off is the total waste of screen real estate being the "on screen buttons". I can sort of understand the device having as few as possible buttons is pretty cool but when it starts invading your screen size that is NOT COOL.
I have a few questions for google: Why oh why did you make the background for the navigation buttons black?? Why not transparent? Or transparent with a blur effect? Personally I would prefer just transparent with faint white back, home and app switcher buttons. It would make more of the screen available to see.
If I were to root my device, are these things that i could schange in the System or Framework RES folders? Or would it be much more complicated than that (i.e. changing color hex's in .xml files?)?
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I agreed with you. Is there anyone that can port Motorola's Transparent Software Buttons, so it will be better?
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Not true because you can hide the nav bar on certain roms and that space it was using up is definitely usable. Hey OP I forgot what it's called but there's a launcher somewhere based on nothing but gestures so you don't even need a nav bar and you can use that extra screen space you seem to desperately need.
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You're both right and wrong. The launcher you're thinking of is probably the PIE launcher available on many custom ROMs, as well as its app equivalent (which I believe is called LMT). But your reasoning as far as hiding the navbar is incorrect. If you hide the navbar on a ROM (or even the way it's done in many games and the YouTube app), the navbar disappears, i.e. it's no longer protecting the screen space that it's not using. Making it transparent would do no such thing, and even if you forced an app to use the space beneath the navbar, you'd wind up with three floating navigation items that would probably conflict with an app's bottom navigation.
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I agreed with you. Is there anyone that can port Motorola's Transparent Software Buttons, so it will be better?
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If you want to look into custom ROMs, some will allow you to mess around with your navbar icons/actions (the main one I like is the replace Recent Apps with a Last App switcher). Paranoid Android also allows you to change the color (and I believe that includes alpha transparency), including a "chameleon"-style bar that changes color based on the active app's predominant scheme.
Also, to respond to something from earlier: black is better because as a static color, it uses less resources to draw and has the benefit of being power-efficient on AMOLED screens. In addition, while it might look neat, it's pretty well accepted in UI/UX lore that you should keep navigational elements as clearly and visually distinct as possible to make them easier to hit. Shoving white/grey buttons on top of an active-blurred background can create quite a headache.
There's a great example of this in the screenshots of Apple's control center for iOS 7. For some backgrounds, the control center is clearly visible despite the background bleeding through, but on others, you basically can't read the buttons because the blur is too distracting.
So a common trend (which I welcome really) in AOSP builds is the addition of a dark mode. If you aren't aware of what this is, it changes the backgrounds of certain apps to black, so things like the increasingly bright google apps have a black background now to make it easy on the eyes. However there seems to be a problem I'm constantly running into, and its intriguing that I haven't seen 1 post about it, try as I might to find a solution.
There are certain apps that I guess make calls to the same resources as some of androids ui, to get their rules about what to do with color, except those apps were not made with black backgrounds in mind, as shown by the lack of white or colored text to let you see what the hell you are doing. I guess I would even understand if I just had to turn off the dark mode as thats not that big of a deal. The problem is that these apps STAY THAT WAY. I'm not sure if this happens on TW roms, since they dont have much theming options. I thought maybe it had something to do with my backups, maybe they were carrying something over from other roms, but new apps entirely were suffering the same fate. I've changed the theme with theme changer and that seemed to be sort of solution, except I dont want to have to switch themes just to be able to read an app. The other problem there is that dark themes I've used do the same damned thing in the opposite direction making text and check boxes, unreadable or undetectable, because the devs haven't thought that "hey making things dark probably wont work for every app". Does anyone else experience this issue, and does anyone have some suggestions? Its extremely frustrating.
Greetings people,
As TW Lollipop has landed, most of the devs have been trying to brew ROMs for the people, and unfortunately there is no control as what MODS should be included, i have found it terribly difficult to choose a ROM as it didnt feel normal to use mods that made no sense (or at least have a minority audience).
Particularly,what annoys me a lot, is dealing with the mods that change the visual space available, now there is no need to blame devs here at all, but rather Sammy should be here to blame for just trying to make a normal UI into a complex useless UI in to their own, and they have effed it up with the new Notifications Drawer.
While i noticed a lot of devs have found options/parameters to change the view of the notification drawer, a lot of ROMs include a very annoying feature called Quicklaunch, however im pretty sure a lot of people like it. While Quicklaunch in my personal opinion sucks, it looks way better compared to S-Finder and Quick Launch buttons. I personally lack any kind programming/scripting skills, but luckily, thanks to a nice dev called @alfaroolg with a similar taste, he brewed it for me straight away.
This is what i planned on seeing:
Remove S-Finder and Quick Connect
Remove 3minit Quicklaunch
Remove the Brightness Bar
Currently, im on @g00h s Note 4 Port, which makes me believe that the Brightness Bar is not removable anymore as i could not find the setting on either the Display settings or Notification Panel editor, HOWEVER, the brightness bar disappears if under 5% battery so you cant push the brightness up, and to my surprise, found out sammy screwed up adopting to the Lollipop rules.
This is how it looks without S-Finder/QuickConnect and Quicklaunch: First Pic
This is what happens with the same configuration, under 5% battery after the Brightness Bar disappears: Second Pic
And to my surprise, if there are any Notifications going on, things return well: Third Pic
Is this a general issue Sammy mustve skipped? quite an eye catcher. Also, the area where the brightness bar disappears, usually Notifications get the place, and the first Notification is not Swipeable, i end up clicking the notification rather then removing it, and it can result in very unpleasant moments.
did google actually put energy into choosing this puke horrid blinding green color for the dialer, it shows their idiocy
any way to change the color WITHOUT a new dialer. and no not upgrading past 7.0. why?
dont want it. just want my white dialer back. not green. dafuq were they thinking. at least give options to customize something simple.
I absolutely hate when people decide for the masses but dont give simple customizing options to suit that person. we do have to look at the screen, you know that right DF google.
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With a Samsung you use a different theme to change that.
With a Pixel no clue... may be no easy way?
Google still thinks people like the puke pastel crap... us deplorables don't.