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O2, New rom, and not all of WM5 + route 66 Nav 7 error

Hi guys, I have a small problem, I have a Xda exe, and bought Route 66's Navigator 7 to run on my unit, problem is this when I try to install the cab file (which is sucessful) it fires up: Error one or more required files cannot be found. please reinstall the application. (close window). I have searched the net and this form for answers/solutions but can't seem to find any. When I was on other sites abt wm5 and set up problems I noticed that there is certain things you cannot get access to on the wm5/O2 software. ie, Like tring to set up a blue tooth connection, what you get with o2 is their attempt of a coms software rather than keeping it simple like windows based interface that everyone else has.
Is there anyway you can stop the o2 customisation cab running after a hard reset, as I think o2 are deleteing files that are required to run route 66. Also is there a way to have just wm5 installed the way you would get windows xp out of the box the way microsoft designed it without o2, or T-mobile mucking it up? :!: :?
Oh and by the way Microsoft as released the Beta of ActiveSync 4.2, which cleared up a lot of my connection problems if anyones interested in the link for it come back to me..

I believe that if you hard reset, go through the touchscreen set up and copy/paste tutorial, when it comes to the 'Tap the screen to finish setup' (ie - when all the guff is installed) if you then soft reset it stops the CAB file from installing and you're left with WM5 as Bill Gate$ intended it (Should point out that i've never tried it though, so it may be completely wrong!) Hope this helps

Oink1....Thanks for the reply on that, I will try that next time round and let you know. cheers

Pocket Mechanic (AntonTomov) - Installation problems

Hi,
I purchased the latest version of AntonTomov's PocketMechanic via Handango and received the registration key immediately after finished purchase procedure.
Installation on my TyTN seemed to work out first (the program accepted the key with a message box and a sound).
But only moments later a message box popped up, telling me I use a pirated version and should turn to the manufacturer, which I did (also mailed Handango).
Meanwhile tried to install PM several times (always removing all traces from both PC and TyTn incl. Registry and rebooted) - to no avail.
Meanwhile received a new serial, but same story again: first accepted and immediately afterwards aborted with Piracy message.
A new complaint mail is on ist way.
Meanwhile I'm asking here if anybody had similar problems in getting the Pocket Mechanics to work on a TyTN.
Appreciating feedback and will let te community know how it worked out for me.

I would not use or buy Tomov's products out of principal.
Found a lot of threads about earlier version doing a hard reset without asking, when inputted a "pirated" serial. So be glad it only shows a box nowdays.
While software piracy is not a good thing, at least for people developing propietary software. Tomov has used a bit too drastic measures to fight
back.

jeezus said:
I would not use or buy Tomov's products out of principal.
Found a lot of threads about earlier version doing a hard reset without asking, when inputted a "pirated" serial. So be glad it only shows a box nowdays.
While software piracy is not a good thing, at least for people developing propietary software. Tomov has used a bit too drastic measures to fight
back.
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This does not make me too comfortable :-(
I also read a few note about that on the net and a reply by Tomov, complaining that this is not true and only a campaign to cut him off his revenues.
Well, I do not know what to believe, however this uncertainty is also not too comfortable...
Well the Pocket Mechanic way of uses some hardware dependent functions and - if you dare to take use of such - you have to either be very careful and also prepared that they might not work on untested and after all very new (such as the TyTN) devices.
I was prepared for all of that but not that I receive a piracy mail (which somewhat alsmost accuses you of being a software pirate and telling you to mail to [email protected]) when I purchased the software (which I can also prove).
Maybe he uses some hardware related mechanism to check eligibility of the serial and as he hasn't tested yet the TyTN (which he admits) this software won't allow being registered at all. I do not know.
But isn't such a meachanism pure over-kill ?
Actually something like that must be going on as I receive this pop up also after a new install and having purged all remnants from the PC, the PDA and the registry.
If I'd be trying out serials just at random, would anyone think that I'll millions of times do that complete procedure just to find any working key at the end of my life maybe ???
(And if I'd be a professional hacker I'd disassemble the code and be able to work around even these barriers.)
So, applying over-kill measures like that only brings problems to decent users, risking to run into problems when using special configurations or ne devices.
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Apart from that I must say that Tomov's applications seem well coded and also graphically very nice (one wonders how graphically nice application you can program for PDAs; shame upon Microsoft for their pre-installed poor applications !!!).
Also I see no real alternatives for some functionality he provided within one software, that's why I purchased the PM.
Finally again my question:
Has anyone encountered the same problems with the PM on a HTC TyTN ?
(btw: Thanks "jeezus" for your feedback.)

Might I inquire which funktionality you need?
Maybe we can find an alternative solution.

HINT ! - Access WinMo from Vista side

Just a hint for all the real developers out here.
in the Vista Part, one can click a button to "install SSL certificate to WinMo-side"
It's done via a button that can be accessed from Vista Communication Manager (Shift soft-key upper right corner, press advanced settings)
What happens there is that Vista connects to the WinMo side without setting up an ActiveSync connection. It has file access. It installs a certificate in WinMo.
So.. there's a CALL there that actually has access from Vista to WinMo.
Maybe people can dissasemble that part and do something really good with it ?
There IS access from Vista to the WinMo part without ActiveSync running.

lucid said:
Just a hint for all the real developers out here.
in the Vista Part, one can click a button to "install SSL certificate to WinMo-side"
It's done via a button that can be accessed from Vista Communication Manager (Shift soft-key upper right corner, press advanced settings)
What happens there is that Vista connects to the WinMo side without setting up an ActiveSync connection. It has file access. It installs a certificate in WinMo.
So.. there's a CALL there that actually has access from Vista to WinMo.
Maybe people can dissasemble that part and do something really good with it ?
There IS access from Vista to the WinMo part without ActiveSync running.
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please read more threads before posting one
my enter bootloader app (i posted a thread on that) accesses the WM part just fine without any activesync.
that happens through the EC driver (stands for Embedded Controller). you can do quite a lot with the EC driver (from changing various settings to getting ROM version, entering bootloader is just one of those things). though i would think that file sending works a bit different, but interesting, i'll look into that.

cmonex said:
please read more threads before posting one
my enter bootloader app (i posted a thread on that) accesses the WM part just fine without any activesync.
that happens through the EC driver (stands for Embedded Controller). you can do quite a lot with the EC driver (from changing various settings to getting ROM version, entering bootloader is just one of those things). though i would think that file sending works a bit different, but interesting, i'll look into that.
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I should do better posts... I knew about your tool.
I just want to say that without ANY hacks whatsoever, there IS a connection between Vista and WinMo at "file transfer" level. Just like the hint I gave about the microphone.
I'm not a developer. I try to help guys like you with some remarks. A factory clean Shift does filetransfers via that button, somewhere my "gut" told me I should post about this , as I haven't seen any post addressing this "option" Hope you use it to our advantage.

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I should do better posts... I knew about your tool.
I just want to say that without ANY hacks whatsoever, there IS a connection between Vista and WinMo at "file transfer" level. Just like the hint I gave about the microphone.
I'm not a developer. I try to help guys like you with some remarks. A factory clean Shift does filetransfers via that button, somewhere my "gut" told me I should post about this , as I haven't seen any post addressing this "option" Hope you use it to our advantage.
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oh i like your posts, don't worry about that part. it is an interesting discovery along with the microphone one. hope you'll make more discoveries
when i get my Shift i can try this out and look more deep into it.

update
I tried to send some files over to snapvue using this option
the progress bar completes, then vista says cert install failed. the files are not there in snapvue.

what kind of sertificates you tried to send to WinMo-side? Could it be traced what happens when you run this command?

sniveri said:
what kind of sertificates you tried to send to WinMo-side? Could it be traced what happens when you run this command?
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not true certificates, mind you, I wanted a way to avoid using a sim card to send usbtool over.
what happens is probably the shagcontrol (yeah, I mean the shift control center but this name is funnier) starts communication over crappy udp protocol with winsock2 (1 try out of 5 failed to fully send and in general was very slow) to EC driver then somehow magically the bytes get sent over to WM. probably the WM IPC driver is responsible for receiving, no idea, haven't checked this yet specifically.
update though, if you create a folder named Certificate under Windows/Settings, shagcontrol will report that the transfer was successful and that you should switch to SnapVue to finish installation. bad luck though, SnapVue *****es about the cert not being valid, and I don't see the file anywhere (probably gets deleted automatically). I heard someone was able to get their hands on a file transferred in such a way but no idea how.

Could it be possible to create service that watches this sertificates folder and creates automatically copies of new files to somewhere?
I think that this sertificate tool is made for administrators and those sertificate-files are not meant to stay on any folder because then user could easily copy those sertificates to other devices. So there is possibility that we can not transfer files this way but maybe using same route to destination.

sniveri said:
Could it be possible to create service that watches this sertificates folder and creates automatically copies of new files to somewhere?
I think that this sertificate tool is made for administrators and those sertificate-files are not meant to stay on any folder because then user could easily copy those sertificates to other devices. So there is possibility that we can not transfer files this way but maybe using same route to destination.
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service, OK, the problem is you'd have to get the service onto the shift somehow.
what I wanted was fully eliminate the requirement of a sim card and usage of gprs/hsdpa to copy the usbtool over
though I guess if you really want that you can abuse the shared internet connection for file sending in the way danielherrero discovered, *but* not sure if that works with an invalid APN.

right, it gets under \Temp as user.cer, sometimes.

[WARNING] To all CoPilot users

Dear CoPilot users,
Over the last month I have been having a bit of a battle with the makers of CoPilot 8, ALK, with regards to my license which I purchased in early 2010.
Like many of you here, I'm a bit of a compulsive phone updater, be it new windows builds, android or this new android NAND stuff.
Anyway, every time I flashed a ROM, I'd have to reactivate Co-Pilot over the internet. No problem. However, one day, it stopped working, saying that my code was invalid!! Much to my horror, I sent ALK an e-mail asking what had happened. Here was my response.
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Response (Brandt) - 08/11/2010 11.45 AM
Dear Jon,
Thank you for contacting CoPilot Technical Support.
Unfortunately the reason why you are no longer able to continue activating CoPilot is our Activation server has seen that you have reached the maximum permitted activation limit for a product.
Unfortunately there is nothing further I can do to unlock your Product Key Code to allow for further activations as this falls under excessive uses of activation.
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Well, I didn't realise I could only activate so many times before the product was no longer mine. So I did some fishing through my T&C's for CoPilot 8 and there is no actual figure to indicate what "the maximum permitted activation limit for a product" is.
So I replied with an e-mail to that effect, saying that there is nothing in black and white for me to have known this. A month later they finally got back to me and said that I can now reactivate my code.
Now - I can understand what's happened. From their server's point of view, lots of people could be using my code on a large number of devices. So how do you get around this?
Well, every time you go to flash a new ROM, **MAKE SURE YOU DEACTIVATE YOUR LICENSE FIRST**!!
In settings (assuming you have show all settings selected), you will see a license button. Select your map in the list of things and press deactivate.
If you do this then you will be okay. But I suspect ALK will be updating their T&C to prevent this from occurring again.
Anyway, I hope that saves some of you from some potential trouble in the future.

why dont you backup & restore using titanium?
works for me
as far as im aware the activation code is linked to your phones IMEI, so it doesnt matter how many times you change your build, (with the same os) if restoring from backup

this is common practice with drm'd software.
the solution is just not to use it.

In The windows ver .. there is a file called : licp8.dat
That keeps your lic Info ...
Wonder if there is one for thr Android ???
then it will not matter
Just Found This ..
Requirements:
- A *LEGAL* copy of CoPilot 8 for Windows Mobile and the license key
- The latest version of CoPilot 8 for Android (works in Froyo now) Link to ALK Web Site
I bought it about 8 months ago for my HD2, for Windows Mobile 6.5. Great piece of software. I contacted ALK to ask if I could transfer between OS's and they said no, it wouldn't work! It also clearly states on their web site that transfers don't work:
Link
So being stubborn, I thought I'd take my own license from WinMo and deactivate it, stick it into Android and needless to say - it works and I have a fully legal copy of CoPilot 8 running on my Android Froyo device. Those cheeky beggers at ALK!!!
So how to get it working:
•Make sure you still have CoPilot installed under Windows Mobile and activated;
•Launch CoPilot. Go to the Menu|Settings|Licensing (NOTE: If you can't see this, find "More Settings" and select that first to show Licensing);
•Select your Map Region from the list (Mine was UK and Ireland), then press "Deactivate";
•CoPilot will now shut down;
•Boot into Android and using an installer, install the APK file which is in the requirements section at the top of the page or here;
•Open CoPilot from the Menu and it will ask for your license info. Enter this as you did when you first bought CoPilot (usually a username and password);
•Bada Bing. That should be it, all working!
Just to clarify one further time, this is only for legally purchased licenses. No questions about dodgy software please. Thank you.

WarlockW said:
Just Found This ..
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LOL Warlock, that was my original post

[Q] Any way to install Inkseine in Windows 8?

I have the Thinkpad X61 tablet. I was running Windows 7 with it. Awesome experience. Just upgraded to Windows 8 (chose to keep all my files, programs, and settings), and now Inkseine does not work. When I try to start it, I get an error pop-up (Inkseine has stopped working). I tried re-installing, still no luck even with .Net 3.5 enabled (as required by the software). So how come this program works in W7 but not W8? All my other stylus programs (OneNote, Windows Journal) are working though. Is MS just banishing this awesome program? I can't find an equivalent replacement.

Try running the app in Compatibility Mode. Right-click either the EXE or the shortcut (in Start or taskbar or desktop or anywhere), select Properties, and go to Compatibility. Enable the Compatibility Mode option for either Win7 or before (if the app say it works on XP, you might try that, for example). Then try running it again.
Also, do some searching online; other people may have had the same or similar problem and found a way around it, or the developer might even have a patch for it. Win8 is supposed to be fully binary compatible with Win7 programs, but these things are never perfect.
It would help if you could get the error message, exception info, or stack trace. However, unless you know how to use a Windows debugger, hat probably won't happen.

GoodDayToDie said:
Try running the app in Compatibility Mode. Right-click either the EXE or the shortcut (in Start or taskbar or desktop or anywhere), select Properties, and go to Compatibility. Enable the Compatibility Mode option for either Win7 or before (if the app say it works on XP, you might try that, for example). Then try running it again.
Also, do some searching online; other people may have had the same or similar problem and found a way around it, or the developer might even have a patch for it. Win8 is supposed to be fully binary compatible with Win7 programs, but these things are never perfect.
It would help if you could get the error message, exception info, or stack trace. However, unless you know how to use a Windows debugger, hat probably won't happen.
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Thanks for the advice. Unfortunately, no compatibility mode is able to make the program run. I used to have Visual Studio 2010 with all the debugging software but since I am not really a programmer I got rid of it. So sadly, I can't figure out what's wrong. I managed to get to the event logger but there was nothing there about inkseine.
I sent a message to the Inkseine team at Microsoft and got a response saying that the program is working on their end. So maybe I just got a corrupted upgrade from Win7 to Win8? My computer runs like butter though, so I am not eager to change anything right now. I am slowly learning to do my scribbling with Journal, but the experience will definitely never be the same (except I am liking the small memory usage of Journal. Inkseine uses A LOT of memory and creates huge files too)