I would like to upgrade my aging N7000 to an N9005 but not without doing the proper reading first. Unfortunately all the reading also confused me more then it resolved my questions. My main Question is what would be a good Firmware to look for on a Note 3 before buying it. Regarding not trying to trip Knox. (If it turns out to be too much of a pain I will survive tripping that flag and living with a preexisting condition. )
I gave up searching for a black 64GB Note 3. They seem to exist but are harder to come by then a Ghost. Am I correct to assume that de la Vega Root only works on pre 4.2.2.Firmwares? For CF Root are there any prefered Firmwares?
I know it is usually hard to check the Firmware when they are still brand new and packaged but there are lots of customer returns at local Media Markt’s. Besides the ones that have been upgraded to 4.3 there are some with 4.2.2 N9005XXUENA2 on it. Do you think I should keep searching for a older one or rather go online and find a used one which has never been update? Or does it really not matter? Still enjoying Paranoid Android on my Note 1. Or is there a good reasons to wait a little longer?
Media Markt Switzerland is selling the Samsung Galaxy Note N9005 32GB for CHF 599.- = $680 which is not a bad price. MSRP in Switzerland is CHF 768.- = $872 (Customer Returns would go for about CHF 50.- = $56 cheaper)
Any thoughts on this? Or any additional reading material that I should not miss? Any hints and tips are greatly appreciated.
swiss420 said:
I would like to upgrade my aging N7000 to an N9005 but not without doing the proper reading first. Unfortunately all the reading also confused me more then it resolved my questions. My main Question is what would be a good Firmware to look for on a Note 3 before buying it. Regarding not trying to trip Knox. (If it turns out to be too much of a pain I will survive tripping that flag and living with a preexisting condition. )
I gave up searching for a black 64GB Note 3. They seem to exist but are harder to come by then a Ghost. Am I correct to assume that de la Vega Root only works on pre 4.2.2.Firmwares? For CF Root are there any prefered Firmwares?
I know it is usually hard to check the Firmware when they are still brand new and packaged but there are lots of customer returns at local Media Markt’s. Besides the ones that have been upgraded to 4.3 there are some with 4.2.2 N9005XXUENA2 on it. Do you think I should keep searching for a older one or rather go online and find a used one which has never been update? Or does it really not matter? Still enjoying Paranoid Android on my Note 1. Or is there a good reasons to wait a little longer?
Media Markt Switzerland is selling the Samsung Galaxy Note N9005 32GB for CHF 599.- = $680 which is not a bad price. MSRP in Switzerland is CHF 768.- = $872 (Customer Returns would go for about CHF 50.- = $56 cheaper)
Any thoughts on this? Or any additional reading material that I should not miss? Any hints and tips are greatly appreciated.
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For Note 3 there seem to be no firmware before 4.3.
For Knox and N9005 you really want any firmware BEFORE 4.3 MJ3. I have seen reports that you can still work with some post-mj3 if you are in Canada/Mexic and you have the N900W8.
swiss420 said:
I would like to upgrade my aging N7000 to an N9005 but not without doing the proper reading first. Unfortunately all the reading also confused me more then it resolved my questions. My main Question is what would be a good Firmware to look for on a Note 3 before buying it. Regarding not trying to trip Knox. (If it turns out to be too much of a pain I will survive tripping that flag and living with a preexisting condition. )
I gave up searching for a black 64GB Note 3. They seem to exist but are harder to come by then a Ghost. Am I correct to assume that de la Vega Root only works on pre 4.2.2.Firmwares? For CF Root are there any prefered Firmwares?
I know it is usually hard to check the Firmware when they are still brand new and packaged but there are lots of customer returns at local Media Markt’s. Besides the ones that have been upgraded to 4.3 there are some with 4.2.2 N9005XXUENA2 on it. Do you think I should keep searching for a older one or rather go online and find a used one which has never been update? Or does it really not matter? Still enjoying Paranoid Android on my Note 1. Or is there a good reasons to wait a little longer?
Media Markt Switzerland is selling the Samsung Galaxy Note N9005 32GB for CHF 599.- = $680 which is not a bad price. MSRP in Switzerland is CHF 768.- = $872 (Customer Returns would go for about CHF 50.- = $56 cheaper)
Any thoughts on this? Or any additional reading material that I should not miss? Any hints and tips are greatly appreciated.
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If you prefer to keep knox cool for warranty then find the one with old firmware lower than MJ4 as it's still possible to root and keeps warranty. But maybe not easy to find it.
The first note 3 firmware is MJ1 which is 4.3(there is no 4.2.2). 4.4.2 starts with NA6. So far not possible to root 4.4.2 without tripping knox.
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For Note 3 there seem to be no firmware before 4.3.
For Knox and N9005 you really want any firmware BEFORE 4.3 MJ3. I have seen reports that you can still work with some post-mj3 if you are in Canada/Mexic and you have the N900W8.
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Rosli59564 said:
If you prefer to keep knox cool for warranty then find the one with old firmware lower than MJ4 as it's still possible to root and keeps warranty. But maybe not easy to find it.
The first note 3 firmware is MJ1 which is 4.3(there is no 4.2.2). 4.4.2 starts with NA6. So far not possible to root 4.4.2 without tripping knox.
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Thanks guys you made one thing clear that I can not read correctly. lol For some odd reason 4.4.2 looked to me like 4.2.2. My misstake but atleast that clears up allot. Sorry for making that misstake.
So the 4.3 Customer Returns would be acctualy the ones I should be looking at to see what Firmware they have on them. I will go check to see whats available. Thanks.
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The first note 3 firmware is MJ1 which is 4.3
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Many people (myself included) have bought their N9005 with MI7, and I have recently seen a report that there was a very special early version (no knox, never sold to customers) around MI2.
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Many people (myself included) have bought their N9005 with MI7, and I have recently seen a report that there was a very special early version (no knox, never sold to customers) around MI2.
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Now everything makes much more sense. Anyhow I did check the others with 4.3. See attachments.
The white one would be an original release as it seems. I prefer the black one, but reserved both for now. Any thoughts on these two?
Both of them can be rooted without tripping knox!
Trimis de pe al meu SM-N9005 folosind Tapatalk
swiss420 said:
Now everything makes much more sense. Anyhow I did check the others with 4.3. See attachments.
The white one would be an original release as it seems. I prefer the black one, but reserved both for now. Any thoughts on these two?
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Well, both should be OK, BUT you also need to ask the seller for a picture in download mode - you really want knox warranty flag 0x0 and reactivation off, here is an example of how that looks:
http://galaxynote3root.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/howto-root-galaxynote3-3-1024x656.jpg
How you get in download mode is described in step 3 below:
http://galaxynote3root.com/galaxy-note-3-root/how-to-root-galaxy-note-3/
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Well, both should be OK, BUT you also need to ask the seller for a picture in download mode - you really want knox warranty flag 0x0 and reactivation off, here is an example of how that looks:
http://galaxynote3root.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/howto-root-galaxynote3-3-1024x656.jpg
How you get in download mode is described in step 3 below:
http://galaxynote3root.com/galaxy-note-3-root/how-to-root-galaxy-note-3/
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Thanks for the Tip I already looked at how to check the flag and will do that before commiting but Media Markt is a large Retail Store and on Customer Returns they have the same 2 Year Warranty as on the new ones. I am able to start and check them before buying. Chances are the new ones have the same Firmwares but I will try to get a better price with a Customer Return.
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Just a quick update to end this Thread on a good Note.
Ended up buying the Customer Return for 539.- ($614) with a MJ3 Firmware and tried the Root de la Vega method to Root it without triggering the Knox Flag.
Rooted to the bone but Knox is triggered. Oh well not sure what I did wrong. I will live with it.
Links I used:
Root de la Vega Thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2498850
SamMobile Firmwares:
http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/1/?model=SM-N9005&pcode=AUT#firmware
(Link for my Firmware did not work and I had to search for the Firmware on the Internet. Sorry dont know the exact link anymore where I eventually found it but dont just download it from anywhere. Make sure it is untouched and prefereably from SamMobile)
Root de la Vega How to Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGnQLrg16l8
My Post on my Procedure:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=51040376&postcount=392
Odin3 (v3.09)
http://www.chip.de/downloads/Odin3_12992520.html
swiss420 said:
Just a quick update to end this Thread on a good Note.
Ended up buying the Customer Return for 539.- ($614) with a MJ3 Firmware and tried the Root de la Vega method to Root it without triggering the Knox Flag.
Rooted to the bone but Knox is triggered. Oh well not sure what I did wrong. I will live with it.
Links I used:
Root de la Vega Thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2498850
SamMobile Firmwares:
http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/1/?model=SM-N9005&pcode=AUT#firmware
(Link for my Firmware did not work and I had to search for the Firmware on the Internet. Sorry dont know the exact link anymore where I eventually found it but dont just download it from anywhere. Make sure it is untouched and prefereably from SamMobile)
Root de la Vega How to Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGnQLrg16l8
My Post on my Procedure:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=51040376&postcount=392
Odin3 (v3.09)
http://www.chip.de/downloads/Odin3_12992520.html
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Since you tripped the KNOX flag you might as well just update to 4.4.2 and re-root it. It's just that much better :good:
Trying it again....
nicholaschum said:
Since you tripped the KNOX flag you might as well just update to 4.4.2 and re-root it. It's just that much better :good:
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Where you are right you are right but I got another Note 3 which I am going to try again using the Root de la Vega Method.
MJ1 Firmware
Just trying to figure out what I could have done wrong on my first Note 3. Anyone have any Ideas? Maybe I used the wrong firmware. Will try it this time with a MJ1 Firmware. On the first one I will go ahead and upgrade to KitKat. Just wondering what the best way is?
Anyone have any thoughts on these two issues?
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I have the Galaxy S4 (GT-I9500). As such I am interested in getting the stock firmware for my device. However, all I get are download links to the hotfiles posted on Samfirmware.com and samsung-updates.com. As we all know, the Hotfile download links are usually very slow. I use a slow connection so this makes it even worse. Could someone be having a download link of the stock ROM somewhere that is not a hotfile?
Seriously dude ! i want a non-hotfile link too i'm stuck with my old firmware
I'm still looking for it. If you find it be sure to share the details on this thread.
asad007 said:
Seriously dude ! i want a non-hotfile link too i'm stuck with my old firmware
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i just found This link
but it's not the latest firmware
Thanks a bunch mate. It may not be the latest but at least its something. Keep sharing
asad007 said:
i just found This link
but it's not the latest firmware
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Stock S4 ROM - NOT hotifle
Hey,
Won't believe how long I've spent doing this.
I'm trying to unroot my S4 (XFA)
But now I'll just take any stock ROM.
Preferably a 4.2.2
Every single link to a ROM is hotfile....
Anybody got something for me?
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I have the Galaxy S4 (GT-I9500). As such I am interested in getting the stock firmware for my device. However, all I get are download links to the hotfiles posted on Samfirmware.com and samsung-updates.com. As we all know, the Hotfile download links are usually very slow. I use a slow connection so this makes it even worse. Could someone be having a download link of the stock ROM somewhere that is not a hotfile?
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I'm exactly in the same position.... I cannot find a stock ROM anywhere.
Were you successful. How did you do it?
Hi @Bigmozzarella please check out this group on Facebook It was very helpful throughout my stay with the Galaxy S4 (I have since upgraded to the Note 3). There are fast download download links to stock firmware thanks to one @stanley08. Check it out.
got it! - sorted!
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I'm still looking for it. If you find it be sure to share the details on this thread.
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OK - got it! :good:
Found it on SamMobile.
I had to join (just like one joins this forum) - there's paid membership and free membership.
Free means downloads are slower (but not that rubbish you get on all the rapidgator terafile, etc networks. I'ts just a download wihtout makign you wait 30sec, and with no restrictions like (you must wait another hour)
I went to firmware - firmware database.
There you can enter the fields, phone, model, region, etc... and I got my original 4.2.2 - as released by my mobile SP
I'm now on official, official.
4.2.2 came out before Knox - so just don't know if I have a flash count or not - don't know where / how to check - but at least no Warranty void bit yet.
Bigmozzarella said:
4.2.2 came out before Knox - so just don't know if I have a flash count or not - don't know where / how to check - but at least no Warranty void bit yet.
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@Bigmozzarella why settle for 4.2.2 when there's even KitKat out for the S4? 4.2.2 did not have the Knox counter. It is after all the Android version the S4 launched with. The Knox counter was introduced in Android 4.3. When you upgrade to 4.3 you're likely to get a new bootloader which will come with the Knox counter reading something like this : 0x0 Warranty bit: 0 when untripped and the warranty bit becomes 1 once tripped. Rooting, flashing a custom kernel, recovery or ROM will lead to that. There are ways of flashing Android 4.3 and retaining your old bootloader so as to avoid Knox. The same is the case with KitKat (not too sure, just checked for Note 3 only). You can check the S4 threads, there's a lot of such info. How to check Knox counter? Boot into your device download mode, you'll see it.
Sorted now thanks
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@Bigmozzarella why settle for 4.2.2 when there's even KitKat out for the S4? 4.2.2 did not have the Knox counter. It is after all the Android version the S4 launched with. The Knox counter was introduced in Android 4.3. When you upgrade to 4.3 you're likely to get a new bootloader which will come with the Knox counter reading something like this : 0x0 Warranty bit: 0 when untripped and the warranty bit becomes 1 once tripped. Rooting, flashing a custom kernel, recovery or ROM will lead to that. There are ways of flashing Android 4.3 and retaining your old bootloader so as to avoid Knox. The same is the case with KitKat (not too sure, just checked for Note 3 only). You can check the S4 threads, there's a lot of such info. How to check Knox counter? Boot into your device download mode, you'll see it.
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Cheers, thanks. I sorted it out.
I had a rooted phone with a custom 4.3.
Unrooted, and flashed 4.2.2 - making it stock like the phone came out.
From there I use the usual Samsung updates up to KitKat. (with all the bloatware....and their updates )
So, I'm on the latest firmware, it's the stock Rom, No warantee bit void, and no custom Rom count.
My phone has that irritating screen issue when it flickers the S-view for no reason, and I want to take it in under warrantee - which I can do.
Hi All
Having had every previous version of the Galaxy S, I've finally gotten around to getting the S4.
I've been reading up on all of the extra security issues this device now has (a la Sony) and am disappointed that I can't be as flash happy as I like to be for fear of voiding the warranty.
Anyway, I'm on Vodafone UK and am running an old firmware, XXUAMDD. Kies is offering me an update to MGG, but I know this will lock the bootloader.
So I'm wondering if there is any point in upgrading now? Ideally I'd like to have 4.3 running, rooted and warranty still valid, but I think at the moment this may be asking too much.
Any views welcome please!
Cheers
Well my advice is simple , if it s not broken do not update. there are no differences between those 2 versions apart from having a locked bootloader and the pain in the ass knox.
The mgg firmware will also give you the ability to move apps to sdcard but foldermount is a better alternative that will work fine with your version.
Are you sure MGG has new bootloader? I don't think it does.....
Sent from my GT-I9505
yes mgg was the first one with the new bootloader . you can always refer to the knox questions and answers thread for various information about knox .
hi, i just got my note 3 n9005 international a couple of days ago & now its time to root...you can say i am a little new to samsung because the last device i used was an s3 & that was a long time ago.....
i dont have any warranty so knox isnt that big of a concern unless it may cause some sort of damage to the phone...so far i have read..its only for warranty purposes like the flash counter for s3.
i was wondering if anyone would be kind enough to point me to rooting & everything else i need to do to install custom roms including recovery...
i tried to read through the instructions of root de la vega but i find it too complicated...so i was thinking of doing cf auto root....
thank you
linx1287 said:
hi, i just got my note 3 n9005 international a couple of days ago & now its time to root...you can say i am a little new to samsung because the last device i used was an s3 & that was a long time ago.....
i dont have any warranty so knox isnt that big of a concern unless it may cause some sort of damage to the phone...so far i have read..its only for warranty purposes like the flash counter for s3.
i was wondering if anyone would be kind enough to point me to rooting & everything else i need to do to install custom roms including recovery...
i tried to read through the instructions of root de la vega but i find it too complicated...so i was thinking of doing cf auto root....
thank you
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Samsung issue a 24month warranty on the Note 3 (maybe country specific?) -
If KNOX isn't an issue for you and you do not mind tripping it, the CF-Auto is the way to go.
RDLV is complicated if you're lazy, but it does preserve KNOX status depending on your bootloader version, put in #*1234# into your dial pad and post the results. We can know if you can use RDLV.
However, if you want to flash a Custom ROM, then you will need a custom recovery, which will trip your KNOX (can't be done without) - on the Android dev section and Orginal Android dev section (in this sub forum) are some Custom ROMs and the instructions on how to do so.
I have used X-Note, Crash and am currently using AllianceROM, but there are a few others.
Just be careful with custom kernels until you're pretty confident cause you can bootloop and ruin your EFS quite easily (it is fixable 99% of the time tho, script is on here also)
EDIT : All you need is here pretty much
thank you for your reply & these are the stats
AP: N9005XXUDMJ6
CP: N9005XXUDMJ4
CSC: N9005EVRDMJ4
also RDLV is way too complicated for me & besides i do plan to install a custom recovery so i think that defeats the point ....since you seem to have tripped knox, there hasnt been any kind of system issue i hope? this whole knox business gave me cold feet when i read about it...but so far as i can see..its just a flash counter.... could you tell me the tools i need to get started with? i already downloaded the usb drivers & odin 3.09..is there anything else i should need?
p.s. i was reading about "before or later MJ7 4" whatever...& i was wondering which of these was it refering to? ap? thank you
Once you trip the knox counter it makes no difference to the phone except not being able to use knox containers, and of course the warranty which you know. -- if you have the drivers and odin. Go grab cf-autoroot, run it thru odin and voila all done, similar for twrp or Cwm which ever you choose as your custom recovery (I use twrp) flash in odin and that's it all set.
Just make sure and I can't stress this enough, that you flash the right ROM for the N9005, and N900 doesn't work. - avoid doing restores with twrp for now also when you do a back up, some issues have arose recently and not sure of they're resolved or not yet.
Have fun man, just read everything about the ROM etc before you flash the odd one has FC's or NFC issues
Sent from my SM-N9005 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
ok so backing up & restoring with recovery is, for the time being, a no no? yes i will make sure to see if the roms are made for n9005 only....i will probably start off with omega roms as they are the 1st choice i had when i started modding the s3 ....thank you soo much mate for all the info...1 last thing to clear up is i am reading on developers talking about MJ or MK or whatever it is....are they talking about the build number i find in Settings/About??
1 thing i couldnt get a proper answer for...is how does 1 know they have the international variant of the n9005 anyway? normally if a n9005 is under some sort of carrier...the carrier logo would flash when booting up right? because thats what happens on my brother's note 3 n9005...when he boots up his phone..it shows SFR logo before going to the samsung bootanimation.....but on mine there is no such thing...the simple note 3 n9005 text then samsung boot animation & then straight to system...that means mine is the unbranded 1 am i correct?
linx1287 said:
1 thing i couldnt get a proper answer for...is how does 1 know they have the international variant of the n9005 anyway? normally if a n9005 is under some sort of carrier...the carrier logo would flash when booting up right? because thats what happens on my brother's note 3 n9005...when he boots up his phone..it shows SFR logo before going to the samsung bootanimation.....but on mine there is no such thing...the simple note 3 n9005 text then samsung boot animation & then straight to system...that means mine is the unbranded 1 am i correct?
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Yeah yours is unbranded, only thing that may/will apply to you is region lock (which unless you're leaving the country your purchased your phone in isn't an issue at the start.
Although I see your CSC is EVR (if I recall correctly that is EE UK's firmware on board)
EDIT: Yes MK/ML are build numbers
no i dont have region lock..THAT i checked...so can i go forwards with all the rooting recovery & custom roms? i did find a orange core services apk on my apps manager under ALL tab..... also what original firmware can i roll back to incase anything goes wrong? any specifics?
linx1287 said:
no i dont have region lock..THAT i checked...so can i go forwards with all the rooting recovery & custom roms? i did find a orange core services apk on my apps manager under ALL tab..... also what original firmware can i roll back to incase anything goes wrong? any specifics?
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Yup can go forwards. EVR (EE aka Orange/T-Mobile) have unlocked phones so yeah you won't have region lock. Which means yours is unbranded but carrier unbranded.
As for firmware, it depends on what region you are using? And what country you are in (you could use BTU (also UK, unbranded but EVR is ok also) - You are **now I say this depending on your country/region** OK on MJ7 or MK2 IF you upgrade since you're using a UK based ROM/CSC your network obviously supports it. However battery life is better on lower than MJ6. So it's your choice really.
Most custom ROMs are MK2 or ML2 atm I think, - Not sure if any upgrade your bootloader to MJ7 (if they do, you can't roll back any lower currently)
i just need a stock firmware so as i have a fallback if anything goes wrong...nothing more really as i plan to stick with custom roms...will this do?
http://samsung-updates.com/details/17028/Galaxy_Note_3_Snapdragon/SM-N9005/EVR/N9005XXUDMJ6.html
i am in Bangladesh so i am pretty confident that there isnt any rom for my region
yea i was wondering about the battery life myself...i dont know what version my brother's note is but his battery lasts noticibly longer than mine does....i was even planning on swapping batteries as i thought it might be a cell related issue
linx1287 said:
i just need a stock firmware so as i have a fallback if anything goes wrong...nothing more really as i plan to stick with custom roms...will this do?
http://samsung-updates.com/details/17028/Galaxy_Note_3_Snapdragon/SM-N9005/EVR/N9005XXUDMJ6.html
i am in Bangladesh so i am pretty confident that there isnt any rom for my region
yea i was wondering about the battery life myself...i dont know what version my brother's note is but his battery lasts noticibly longer than mine does....i was even planning on swapping batteries as i thought it might be a cell related issue
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As long as your bootloader doesn't go to MJ7 - that firmware is OK, If your bootloader updates ( I think it may with the custom ROM) you can't roll back to MJ6, you can go to MJ7 or MK2 via BTU which will work for you since EVR works.
the latest omega is ML2 so by that measure...i wont be able to roll back to MK2 either & the latest on this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2459328 is MK2
linx1287 said:
the latest omega is ML2 so by that measure...i wont be able to roll back to MK2 either & the latest on this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2459328 is MK2
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You can drop back as far as MJ7 ( I have at least when I've returned to stock due to mess ups) my build is MK2 atm
the bootloader only goes to MJ7 (last I checked, If it has changed then mine still lets me roll to MJ7)
csc seems a very complicated mess...GOD when did the mod friendly samsung go this crazy? the s3 was the most fun thing to mod...now this feels more complicated then Sony's!! :'( since my csc is EVR...is it possible to put BTU? i saw someone post this but didnt get any replies... http://www.usofttech.com/t128991.html
OH CRAP you said this BTU already...sorry my bad.... just trying to absorb all this
1 last query & i think i can start....with my current MJ6 build...can i do the cf auto root? or do i need to be on a lower build? if i can...then i think i will start or should i wait for the MJ7 to finish downloading & root that with cf auto root? & mate...thank you... you helped clear a lot of the confusions stopping me from modding this...now i think i can start things with a bit of confidence...thank you.... MUCH appreciated
linx1287 said:
1 last query & i think i can start....with my current MJ6 build...can i do the cf auto root? or do i need to be on a lower build? if i can...then i think i will start or should i wait for the MJ7 to finish downloading & root that with cf auto root? & mate...thank you... you helped clear a lot of the confusions stopping me from modding this...now i think i can start things with a bit of confidence...thank you.... MUCH appreciated
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You can CF root straight away, - since you're triggering KNOX anyway it won't affect you. Then on with custom recovery etc, just keep MJ7 as your stock back up on your PC just incase. and IF you run into any issues with EFS (bootloops/no signal/wifi/baseband etc) use THIS It has saved me and quite a few others.
EDIT: And no problem man, glad to help, we all start somewhere with new devices
mate....the odin inside the cf root is 1.85 & the 1 got from google is 3.09 which should i use? & is PDA & AP the same thing because they are diff in the 2 versions of odin
linx1287 said:
mate....the odin inside the cf root is 1.85 & the 1 got from google is 3.09 which should i use? & is PDA & AP the same thing because they are diff in the 2 versions of odin
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I use 3.07 personally - and flash using PDA -- Use the one with CF root if you're unsure
the phone is rooted ahhh feels like home again ....mate you said earlier that restoring backups on twrp causes system issues....i was wondering if this is true for just twrp or ALL current recoveries in general? which recovery would you suggest? also i was wondering about that script you told me about...the 1 about soft brick.... that fixes corrupt efs due to flashes yes? if so, does that mean it doesnt require my backup of efs?
linx1287 said:
the phone is rooted ahhh feels like home again ....mate you said earlier that restoring backups on twrp causes system issues....i was wondering if this is true for just twrp or ALL current recoveries in general? which recovery would you suggest? also i was wondering about that script you told me about...the 1 about soft brick.... that fixes corrupt efs due to flashes yes? if so, does that mean it doesnt require my backup of efs?
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TWRP has issues *sometimes* there's a few posts about it around, I personally have had no problems and use TWRP fine, but I mentioned it because what works for one, doesn't always for another.
As for EFS backup, keep it just incase -- IT seems Android can rebuild the EFS again with that fire script. -- It's handy though, gotten a few out of the crapper including myself
Hola,
Got my Note 3 a while back, and I'm getting itchy firmware fingers!
Maybe I'm being stupid - but so far I haven't had any luck in 'automatically' finding updated firmwares - still sitting on the MHN one that was installed when I bought the phone back on November.
Am I doing anything wrong? Do I need to root to be able to update the firmware? KIES says I'm on the latest... Not a network locked phone - have used t-mob, orange and currently a 3 sim.
Halp!
Hup we go!
No updates have ever come through either OTA or KIES... why me!
pipohippo said:
Hup we go!
No updates have ever come through either OTA or KIES... why me!
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mate why dont you update via pc odin then ? and you dont need root to upgrade via kies
here try this for guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/help/guide-odin-flash-guide-t1671969
get your firmware from here
http://www.samfirmware.com/
pipohippo said:
Hup we go!
No updates have ever come through either OTA or KIES... why me!
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Maybe you should post more details - for instance what version of Note 3 do you have (ideally you want to know the original code, something like N9005ZWE or N9005ZKEBTU, which identifies a N9005 for UK) and what firmware are you right now. And eventually what have you asked when originally asked about the country where you are (for the license agreement). If the combinations above get very weird you also need to know your effective CSC, but that could be a longer shot.
Thanks for the responses guys - I assumed Odin also required rooting, so I will have a proper look! Good questions to ask as well, so just for reference, phone is the following:
Product Code SM-N9005ZKEBTU
Bootloader Version N9005XXUBMHN
Baseband Version N9005XXUBMHN
Android Version 4.3 (whatever came out of the box)
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Thanks for the responses guys - I assumed Odin also required rooting, so I will have a proper look! Good questions to ask as well, so just for reference, phone is the following:
Product Code SM-N9005ZKEBTU
Bootloader Version N9005XXUBMHN
Baseband Version N9005XXUBMHN
Android Version 4.3 (whatever came out of the box)
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No my friend as I said before updating via odi n dsnt require root... great now you can just download 4.4.2 firmware for your note 3 and update
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pipohippo said:
Thanks for the responses guys - I assumed Odin also required rooting, so I will have a proper look! Good questions to ask as well, so just for reference, phone is the following:
Product Code SM-N9005ZKEBTU
Bootloader Version N9005XXUBMHN
Baseband Version N9005XXUBMHN
Android Version 4.3 (whatever came out of the box)
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N9005ZKEBTU seems to be be EU-British unlocked N9005 - I would assume that you also picked UK when asked about the license agreement.
N9005XXUBMHN is a very interesting version of the firmware that is not even listed here:
http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/1/?model=SM-N9005&pcode=BTU#firmware
You seem to have a fairly recent firmware and for the moment there is no 4.4.2 version of the BTU sub-region.
I am guessing that the firmware is actually way old, so it's not listed! Assuming the firmwares are in alphabetical order!
MHx < MJx
All UK aye - good to know that the phone is actually unlocked though I'll have a look on SamMobile and grab a nice 4.3 firmware - not ready for KitKat yet!
xclub_101 said:
N9005ZKEBTU seems to be be EU-British unlocked N9005 - I would assume that you also picked UK when asked about the license agreement.
N9005XXUBMHN is a very interesting version of the firmware that is not even listed here:
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You seem to have a fairly recent firmware and for the moment there is no 4.4.2 version of the BTU sub-region.
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pipohippo said:
I am guessing that the firmware is actually way old, so it's not listed! Assuming the firmwares are in alphabetical order!
MHx < MJx
All UK aye - good to know that the phone is actually unlocked though I'll have a look on SamMobile and grab a nice 4.3 firmware - not ready for KitKat yet!
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Hmm, for some reason I was thinking MK instead of MH, indeed your firmware is unusual! But please be aware that those old firmware versions are the only ones that can be safely rooted without triggering the knox warranty flag. Which reminds me - if you go to download mode do you see any reference to knox?
Knox Kernal Lock: 0x0
Knox Warranty Void: 0x0
I am guessing that is kind of good right?
final clarification - rooting has the possibility of triggering knox warranty shizzle, but just doing a 'standard' firmware update (even via odin) should keep things fine right?
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Hmm, for some reason I was thinking MK instead of MH, indeed your firmware is unusual! But please be aware that those old firmware versions are the only ones that can be safely rooted without triggering the knox warranty flag. Which reminds me - if you go to download mode do you see any reference to knox?
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pipohippo said:
Knox Kernal Lock: 0x0
Knox Warranty Void: 0x0
I am guessing that is kind of good right?
final clarification - rooting has the possibility of triggering knox warranty shizzle, but just doing a 'standard' firmware update (even via odin) should keep things fine right?
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Correct, standard Odin update WITH THE RIGHT FIRMWARE will be fine.
IMHO your absolute best path from this point would be something like this:
- save whatever you need to save to the cloud or eventually on the external microSD (just in case)
- disable reactivation lock; disable any updates and security updates in the current ROM; stop mobile data and WiFi; keep all updates off and all network off until the very last step of the entire procedure
- using normal Odin and download mode install oldest BTU firmware you can get - MI7 in the link I provided above; that update should go without any problem; reboot and check everything is OK (and stop again any network or update if re-enabled); this step is only needed in order to get you on the EXACT same path that the huge majority of the people around (including me) have used with URDLV; it might be possible to skip this and still have everything working 100% (and this is quite very likely but I have not tested it);
- using Universal Root de la Vega (URDLV) and the same MI7 from above you will generate a N9005XX____MI7_HOME_VEGA.tar.md5 file which then you will again write with normal Odin and in download mode; this will get you rooted on MI7 with knox 0x0 ; you can read more about this in the URDLV thread
- then using Mobile Odin Pro (NOT normal Odin / download mode) and the most recent 4.3 version available for BTU you can update to MJ7 or MK2 - while keeping root and knox 0x0!
Read for more details on the last step this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2522729
Also note that Mobile Odin Pro will also let you update to 4.4 and keep root and knox 0x0, so it is not a bad investment. Also note that at this point there is no other way to root with knox 0x0 once you got past a certain firmware, nor is it possible to go back before the version of your bootloader (so in other words the above procedure also would guarantee that you can get back to MI7 if for instance you do not like MK2, something you would never otherwise be able to do).
As my signature shows - MJ7 / MK2 are currently very solid versions (and if you are rooted you can get amazing battery life and performance) and I would strongly suggest avoiding any upgrade towards 4.4 in the immediate future.
Since I'm a new user, I can't post my question in the Universal Root de la Vega thread. I have the firmware shown on the images attached to this message... Can I root my note 3 without tripping knox using URDLV?
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Since I'm a new user, I can't post my question in the Universal Root de la Vega thread. I have the firmware shown on the images attached to this message... Can I root my note 3 without tripping knox using URDLV?
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There is another solution than root de la vega. Follow this guide and you won't trip knox even if you root or install custom recovery/rom. You can also go back to 4.3 from 4.4.2 if kitkat is not your type.
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hey_joe said:
There is another solution than root de la vega. Follow this guide and you won't trip knox even if you root or install custom recovery/rom. You can also go back to 4.3 from 4.4.2 if kitkat is not your type.
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But that guide requires to install a custom rom/recovery, and I want to stay with my current firmware/recovery, I just want to gain root access without tripping knox
hyogman said:
But that guide requires to install a custom rom/recovery, and I want to stay with my current firmware/recovery, I just want to gain root access without tripping knox
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According to the urdlv post, you can since MJ4 and up are the firmware that has been patched by samsung.
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hey_joe said:
According to the urdlv post, you can since MJ4 and up are the firmware that has been patched by samsung.
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Well... mi compilation number isN900W8UBUBMJ4 (as shown in the attached images a couple post ago). The firmware I used to patch with URDLV has the following details:
PDA: N900W8UBUBMJ4
CSC: N900W8TCEBMJ3
MODEM: N900W8UBUBMJ3
So, I asume that will trigger knox right? I ask a lot because here in Mexico, the note 3 has a price of $1,073 USD. As you can see, Telcel really overprice the phones, and I don't wanna lose warranty, but I wanna delete all the useless bloatware from Telcel.
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Well... mi compilation number isN900W8UBUBMJ4 (as shown in the attached images a couple post ago). The firmware I used to patch with URDLV has the following details:
PDA: N900W8UBUBMJ4
CSC: N900W8TCEBMJ3
MODEM: N900W8UBUBMJ3
So, I asume that will trigger knox right? I ask a lot because here in Mexico, the note 3 has a price of $1,073 USD. As you can see, Telcel really overprice the phones, and I don't wanna lose warranty, but I wanna delete all the useless bloatware from Telcel.
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The attached images on the first post says MHG which is why I said you can safely use urdlv. If it's MJ4, then using urdlv will trip knox. There is an app called Kingo that can root it but based on what I've read so far, it's hit or miss. Some had success rooting MJ4 without tripping Knox and then again some actually softbricked their phones and trip Knox. The guide that I linked you to will not trip Knox even if you install custom recovery and root your phone. The only caveat is you will have to update to 4.4.2. But should you need the warranty, you can always flash back to 4.3. Having said that, it's all up to you.
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Well... I think then I will give it the big step... I considered the Klingo way, but as you said, is a coin toss, so I will take my chances and go with URDLV :good: