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Who the heck is responsible for the 4x4 grid??

I´m sorry if this has been posted before - but I can´t stand the fact, that Samsung shows such a massive effort for software optimizations and special functions, which CLEARLY are pushing the Note III to the top of every smartphone list - while, at the same time, STILL messing around with the restricted grid system in TW.
How can ANYBODY (that keeps an eye on the smartphone market and on the success of alternative launchers) think that a 4x4 grid (- on such a big device with such a great resolution -) is a good idea, looks good, feels good, makes sense or simply is a good choice??
I hate the restriction in general - it shouldn´t be that a problem to simply integrate a "free choice" function into the almighty TW. But hey, you Samsung guys...a 4x4? really?? I even used a 6x7 grid on my S3.
Sorry, perhaps it´s just my mood...

brooon said:
I´m sorry if this has been posted before - but I can´t stand the fact, that Samsung shows such a massive effort for software optimizations and special functions, which CLEARLY are pushing the Note III to the top of every smartphone list - while, at the same time, STILL messing around with the restricted grid system in TW.
How can ANYBODY (that keeps an eye on the smartphone market and on the success of alternative launchers) think that a 4x4 grid (- on such a big device with such a great resolution -) looks good, feels good, makes sense or simply is a good choice??
I hate the restriction in general - it shouldn´t be that a problem to simply integrate a "free choice" function into the almighty TW. But hey, you Samsung guys...a 4x4? really?? I even used a 6x7 grid on my S3.
Sorry, perhaps it´s just my mood...
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no, you are right. They have had this problem from the first note. Someone in their R&D department isn't doing their job properly or someone higher up is screwing with us. With samsung's resources, it really shouldn't be that hard to let us customize the launcher through some secret menu or something.

If you're talking about the launcher then simply install Apex or Nova. That's the first thing I do with a new phone. I can't remember the last time I saw a native TouchWiz launcher.

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I've been using a 10 (+1) x 7 grid on my Note 1 w/Nova and I am already happy for the extra row I will be able to add on the taller screen of the III (this is going to be my 4S to 5 moment )
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vgergo said:
I've been using a 10 (+1) x 7 grid on my Note 1 w/Nova and I am already happy for the extra row I will be able to add on the taller screen of the III (this is going to be my 4S to 5 moment )
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Jesus..looks like someone spilled a bag of apps on your screen.
I always replace the launchers. Just for the gestures alone. Swiping up or down or even more complex gestures for actions etc.
Im pretty sure some ROMS offer custom row densities on TW.

xManMythLegend said:
Jesus..looks like someone spilled a bag of apps on your screen.
I always replace the launchers. Just for the gestures alone. Swiping up or down or even more complex gestures for actions etc.
Im pretty sure some ROMS offer custom row densities on TW.
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No. It looks even worse than apple's implementation of the launcher. Scattered.

4x4 yuck!
i hope someone figure out the knox system without voiding your warranty. i've been itching for custom rom on my to-be note 3!

vgergo said:
I've been using a 10 (+1) x 7 grid on my Note 1 w/Nova and I am already happy for the extra row I will be able to add on the taller screen of the III (this is going to be my 4S to 5 moment )
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Holy crap man, do you really use all that on the daily? There is an app drawer. Different folks, different strokes I guess.
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4x4 works for me on my Note 2 ... you can put multiple apps into a folder. I don't see why Samsung can't offer a denser layout for those that need or want it.

Do you lose any Touchwiz functionality by installing a different launcher from the Play Store?

I suspect the 4x4 launcher was VERIZON'S doing.

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I suspect the 4x4 launcher was VERIZON'S doing.
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can this be a thing. Like the blame obama meme but now we blame verizon for everything?

Here is my 8x9 grid on the 4 inch Galaxy S. This translates to an 11x13 grid on the note 3's 5.7 inch.
I really like this icon size. It's perfect for the size of the fingertip.
This way I only have one launcher pane and I don't need to swipe left and right.
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What launcher is that?
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What launcher is that?
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Apex. Its maximum is 10x10.
Nova can do 16x16 through some secret taps.
I'm hoping Apex gets its maximum increased by the time I get my note 3, as I like it better than nova.
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vgergo said:
I've been using a 10 (+1) x 7 grid on my Note 1 w/Nova and I am already happy for the extra row I will be able to add on the taller screen of the III (this is going to be my 4S to 5 moment )
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Holy crap this is intense! I've gotta try something like this. I'm also a one main screen kind of guy... this is awesome!

I understand the need for many icons guys but to go from 4x4 to 10x10? d know... really in your desktop pc's you have a ton of things in your desktop? Anyway im other school guy.. i want it clean and organised with folders.

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Do you lose any Touchwiz functionality by installing a different launcher from the Play Store?
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Normally no. However this version swiping up launches the magazine app.
But like I said most custom launchers have a custom swiping feature. So you can make a swipe up down double tap etc do almost anything you want . apex and nova are the most popular.

vgergo said:
I've been using a 10 (+1) x 7 grid on my Note 1 w/Nova and I am already happy for the extra row I will be able to add on the taller screen of the III (this is going to be my 4S to 5 moment )
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Wow man. Posting that takes guts. Kudos!

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Just got it!
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I don't get it(and I mean no offense at all, I really think I want this phone) but they give you a super big screen, but then it seems like the resolution is super high, like running 640x480 on a 24" monitor. Feels like it defeats the purpose to me.
I am still on my note and generally end up changing the dpi down to 240, which is more to my liking, and I imagine I can do that on a rooted note 3 as well, if not now, eventually. Just seems thats not an option for the phone from jump. And I haven't messed with touchwiz in a while but is it still limited to 5 icons wide, or have they updated to 6? Currently running 7 wide on my note 1, and would think 7 or 8 would probably work best for me on an even larger screen? I would love to keep the phone stock, just wish it could do what I want while keeping it stock.
I mean looking at the screenshot again just the amount of space the home screen indicator takes up, seems like you could fit a whole other row of icons there. And maybe you(by you I mean you, or anyone else) don't need or want that many icons on the home screen. But maybe I want a nice picture on there but still have enough room for some icons without really covering the pic.
Congrats on the new phone though, and seriously, wasn't trying to rain on your parade at all, the phone is awesome.

mike208 said:
I don't get it(and I mean no offense at all, I really think I want this phone) but they give you a super big screen, but then it seems like the resolution is super high, like running 640x480 on a 24" monitor. Feels like it defeats the purpose to me.
I am still on my note and generally end up changing the dpi down to 240, which is more to my liking, and I imagine I can do that on a rooted note 3 as well, if not now, eventually. Just seems thats not an option for the phone from jump. And I haven't messed with touchwiz in a while but is it still limited to 5 icons wide, or have they updated to 6? Currently running 7 wide on my note 1, and would think 7 or 8 would probably work best for me on an even larger screen? I would love to keep the phone stock, just wish it could do what I want while keeping it stock.
I mean looking at the screenshot again just the amount of space the home screen indicator takes up, seems like you could fit a whole other row of icons there. And maybe you(by you I mean you, or anyone else) don't need or want that many icons on the home screen. But maybe I want a nice picture on there but still have enough room for some icons without really covering the pic.
Congrats on the new phone though, and seriously, wasn't trying to rain on your parade at all, the phone is awesome.
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Yeah, I agree. With a 1920x1080 screen, it definitely looks (and works) better with smaller icons and more rows/columns. Unless I'm missing something, touchwiz is still very limiting as far as personalization goes. I'm back on go launcher, which I used on my previous phone (Note 1).

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Using Nova Launcher and nox theme
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Love dc comic's
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TeamPowerstroke said:
Nova Launcher and various widgets
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Need and want!!! The girl in the back came with the theme?

N*E*R*D said:
Need and want!!! The girl in the back came with the theme?
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It isn't a theme. Just a background and I put the different widgets where I wanted them
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Sweet-ass app!

This app is really cool. It rounds the corners of the screen and makes things look pretty damn nut-sweatingly glorious. It's called roundr, found it on the store today:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=mohammad.adib.roundr&hl=en_GB
Gonna install it on my N5 if stupid courier sends it this year.
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Hey, is there a way to fix that ?
Update: Just ticked "overlap status bar"

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When I saw this I thought what a stupid app... Downloaded it and love it.
Thanks.
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You guys just found out about this? It's been released for a while. Work best on AMOLED screens.

Reminds me of my Palm Pre (RIP), might try it when i get the N5

Yeah, the app is only around 7 months old. Here is the creators thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2234079

Why the he'll do I like this app so much? It's so simple yet amazing? Lol I dunno, it's strange that something so simple is so pleasing
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Been using this app for a couple months. So simple but so damn good looking. LOL!

That's all very well and good. But this won't work with a transparent nav bar etc on n5
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GR36 said:
That's all very well and good. But this won't work with a transparent nav bar etc on n5
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It works if you sport a black background.

Sweet ass-app
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GR36 said:
That's all very well and good. But this won't work with a transparent nav bar etc on n5
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Use a third party launcher they will have a black bar, at least that's how it is on my Nexus 4 running 4.4.
Or if you have a Nexus 4 and running custom rom or Xposed modules, you can set the status bar and navbar to be transparent, switch to a third party launcher, and blacklist that launcher using RoundR Extrensions, of course you'll lose the Okay Google in the process.
The app's blacklisting the Google launcher itself doesn't work right now.

This app is pretty awesome! If only the notification could do something useful like battery life or something and if it worked with the transparent bottom nav bar I would totally keep it!

This app works great when opening apps, and the status/nav bars turn black. The dev should have the option not to enable on homescreen and only activate when apps are open. (if its possible) then this would be a beauty.

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This app works great when opening apps, and the status/nav bars turn black. The dev should have the option not to enable on homescreen and only activate when apps are open. (if its possible) then this would be a beauty.
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Like I said, if you purchased the Extensions you have the option to blacklist, however, it can't blocklist Google launcher for now, but it work on other launchers.

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Like I said, if you purchased the Extensions you have the option to blacklist, however, it can't blocklist Google launcher for now, but it work on other launchers.
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Yes i know it works on 3rd party launchers(used it on nova no problem) but some may want the "google" experience, i was just stating how it can POSSIBLY be resolved running on the default launcher.

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Yes i know it works on 3rd party launchers(used it on nova no problem) but some may want the "google" experience, i was just stating how it can POSSIBLY be resolved running on the default launcher.
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Yea I hope it gets updated. It doesn't look right on the trandparent status bar on the N5 IMHO.

Wow....that is actually pretty sweet! Thanks for the recommendation!
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Love this idea, reminds me of my N9. Gonna hang on to it to see if the dev can make it work with the stock launcher (i.e. the bottom corners).

Different launchers ?

I have been testing out a few launchers such as next 3d go and nova and not really sure why people use these? The changes are minimal such as desktop transition and that's about it? I know you can use icon packs which is nice.
What do you see in your launcher ? I am most likely going to.buy Go or next 3d but not sure which. It seems some lag depending on which launcher I use.
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Nova launcher does not lag a single bit and is actually smoother Than stock.... And just looking at my home screen it looks completely different than stock TW
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nice iconpack, what is that.

Haven't used stock in probably 2 years. Nova has features not found anywhere in Stock launcher.
Dock as overlay, widget resizing (AND overlapping), app drawer customization, icon resizing, multiple/scrollable dock rows.....resize page grids...
The list is exhaustive. It's not really even comparable to stock.
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thrgk said:
nice iconpack, what is that.
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Stock...
I use Lustre a lot, just took a break. Here's a screen shot of Lustre...

HD OrbiconS icons.
Forgot to mention... If you are rooted, Nova has a few features for that too
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I enjoy the google experience launcher. It's free and paired with the xposed GEL settings it's comparable to all other paid launchers. I recommend checking them out.
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Is the only difference between go and next 3d the 3d part really ?
Also do most of you run free nova of paid
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Is the kk launchet the Google launcher ?
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Is the kk launchet the Google launcher ?
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Yes sir.
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thrgk said:
Is the only difference between go and next 3d the 3d part really ?
Also do most of you run free nova of paid
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I used Go Launcher prior to the release of Jelly Bean. After that, it seemed the Go Team had really fallen behind the times on what Android is capable of.
I've experimented with Next 3D on occasion. I love the effects, transitions, etc. But I've never felt I had more actual functionality than when I run Nova (or Apex for that matter).
I personally use the paid version of Nova (Prime). First and foremost to support the app developer, but you also receive about twice as more usable features on Nova Prime. Desktop backup is a great example! For those of us who flash ROMs a lot, this is an awesome feature.
Launchers are always about preference and how you use your phone. I saw a thread on here about people emailing each other Go Launcher Beta 5.0 invites. My personal thought was.... "really.. Go launcher... On Kit Kat!? That's just stupid...." LOL.
But again, some people love it and swear by it, just like I do with Nova Prime. I think every launcher brings it's own unique thing to Android...
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I use aviate now cause it's so basic and simple. I've used nova and apex and thought like you. They barely changed anything.
Quantum matrix is a fun launcher. Probably the only true 3d one. All your apps are in the cube. Apps on corners are shown on all sides. You can have folders with more cubes in them. Was a fun launcher. But i like playing around with new stuff.
Went to TSF and I loved that. Literally performs like a pc desktop in that no more grid pattern. Place stuff where you want even on top of each other. Doesn't matter. No form you must stick to. Was so much fun. Even can spin then slightly so icons are on an angle. So many little tweaks too. Very fun launcher but very costly.
Only reason I use aviate now is i wanted something really simple and plain and this works. Will change up in a few months probably when i want something new
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I always end up back with Nova. It works so well, yet adds useful features at a reasonable pace. It's the best mix of functionality and freedom. Definitely buy Prime.
I think I've used all the rest, and they are fun. Themer is a nice novelty, TSR is great in a big phone, Next is slick with a ton of little touches, but Nova hits it right.
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Nova prime hasn't been updated in almost a year play store says. Is this true ?
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thrgk said:
Nova prime hasn't been updated in almost a year play store says. Is this true ?
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Nova just got updated last month, but they didn't really add much. It isn't the 'flashiest' of launchers but IMO it's definitely the smoothest and snappiest.

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Nova prime hasn't been updated in almost a year play store says. Is this true ?
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Nova Prime isn't the launcher. it's the unlock key for Nova premium features.
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thrgk said:
Nova prime hasn't been updated in almost a year play store says. Is this true ?
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Why would it need to be updated? It's just an unlocker for Nova...

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Why would it need to be updated? It's just an unlocker for Nova...
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I think he just assumed it was a separate launcher app. Like Next and Next Lite.
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I use NOVA Launcher prime it's the best for custom themes imo.
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If you like touchwiz there are some launchers that have simple mods such as grid sizes and swipe up for google now and such I like nova as well but sonetimes I go back to touchwiz
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Changed Google Launcher For Moto G

i just received a Google update from playstore .. which is 35 mb approx
it changed my Google launcher now its vertical scrolling like ANDROID M
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cool thanks for the demo.
that lag when swiping out of Google now to the home screen is gross. mine does that too (2g) seems like that shouldn't happen. but maybe im just being picky.

Can you share the apk? Thanks!
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orogiad said:
cool thanks for the demo.
that lag when swiping out of Google now to the home screen is gross. mine does that too (2g) seems like that shouldn't happen. but maybe im just being picky.
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turn off voice search and it will stop lagging.

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i just received a Google update from playstore .. which is 35 mb approx
it changed my Google launcher now its vertical scrolling like ANDROID M
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I haven't seen the update, but I'll have to look at it. I never actually look at Google Launcher and only keep it on until I can get Nova installed..

Tel864 said:
I haven't seen the update, but I'll have to look at it. I never actually look at Google Launcher and only keep it on until I can get Nova installed..
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My actions exactly! The stock launcher is a POS, designed to track you to hell and back!
Dead Cookies leave no trails...

Cookie Ninja said:
My actions exactly! The stock launcher is a POS, designed to track you to hell and back!
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Not with XGELs module...It's just as good as nova, without all the unnecessary extras.

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My actions exactly! The stock launcher is a POS, designed to track you to hell and back!
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Yeah, I'm not sure why companies don't put a little more effort into launchers. I can't remember ever using a default launcher longer than it took to find something else on Play. Even on my Samsung Galaxy tablet, I couldn't wait to get Samsung's launcher off it. After purchasing several, I've been pretty much stuck on Nova for quite a while. My wife on the other hand likes Smart Launcher Pro, which is light on memory but not the style I like.

Tel864 said:
Yeah, I'm not sure why companies don't put a little more effort into launchers. I can't remember ever using a default launcher longer than it took to find something else on Play. Even on my Samsung Galaxy tablet, I couldn't wait to get Samsung's launcher off it. After purchasing several, I've been pretty much stuck on Nova for quite a while. My wife on the other hand likes Smart Launcher Pro, which is light on memory but not the style I like.
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I have Apex on all my tablets and phones.

Still haven't got the update, any way to force it?

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Still haven't got the update, any way to force it?
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you can get it on apkmirror.com
This is the worst gui GNL has ever had...I am hoping and praying this isn't what the final M launcher is like, or I'll have to go with an alternative. This crap is just god-awful!!!
.....and why in the flying hell did they switch from vertical scroll to horizontal and back to vertical for??? They finally got the world used to horizontal, then gave us all the middle finger and went 'get used to it again, assholes'
fu, google now launcher vertical drawer, i hope you die a fiery death in the depths of hell

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you can get it on apkmirror.com
This is the worst gui GNL has ever had...I am hoping and praying this isn't what the final M launcher is like, or I'll have to go with an alternative. This crap is just god-awful!!!
.....and why in the flying hell did they switch from vertical scroll to horizontal and back to vertical for??? They finally got the world used to horizontal, then gave us all the middle finger and went 'get used to it again, assholes'
fu, google now launcher vertical drawer, i hope you die a fiery death in the depths of hell
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Why don't you say what you really mean.

Forget vertical.it fits only 4 icons per row.. Everything looks too big. Any way to decrease the size?