A year after it introduced it for the first time, Samsung unveiled Knox 2.0 security platform for Android.
The beefed up enterprise suite will ship with the Samsung Galaxy S5, while older devices will receive it after they upgrade to Android 4.4 KitKat.
# Source :
http://mblog.gsmarena.com/samsung-unveils-knox-2-0-mobile-security-platform/
time to say goodbye to samsung.
they make sure customers get disappointed with so called s5. and
now knox 2.0..
for all
Just an effort to gain more market share. Where is the problem for the customer, the private user?
Nobody needs to activate it.... therefore, everything is fine like on the N3.
I unveil the next device I'm going to buy: It won't be Samsung branded, may be Sony Xperia Z2
KNOXmade by NSA
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What do you think Galaxy S 5 will include. Tizen Or Android ?
Which One do you prefer ?
We have a lot of rumors about the Samsung Galaxy S5, now that the release date is getting closer and now we’re hearing again that one variant of the device will come with Tizen OS instead of Android 4.4 KitKat. Along with this, it’s also rumored that it will feature an optical image stabilization camera (OIS) and aluminium body.
Tizen is Samsung’s proprietary operating system and they are expected to release some devices running it very soon. It’s pretty clear that Samsung intends to help this operating system become more popular, but shipping a Tizen OS Galaxy S5 would be a really long shot as it doesn’t come with Google Play and all the apps available for Android.
These rumors don’t have any clear source and I wouldn’t rely very much on them, as I don’t believe Samsung is willing to take that risk with Tizen just yet. Before releasing their flagship smartphone with their proprietary operating system, they need to attract developers and create a decent app store. Currently Google Play is the biggest app store and you can find virtually every app you need there.
It’s been proved already that operating systems without a wide range of apps don’t manage to get traction, as we’ve seen the struggle of Blackberry and Windows Phone.
Samsung has been trying for a while to distance themselves from Android, but we’ve seen a change once with the Galaxy Note 3′s release. Until now they didn’t say anything about Android in their smartphone releases, but that changed at the Unpacked event this month.
The Korean maker might have realized that Android is what helps them lead the smartphone market and they probably wouldn’t be able to do it without Google.
So you should be confident that Samsung Galaxy S5 won’t come with Tizen OS, as they can’t ship their flagship smartphone without an app store, while their competition has Google Play, the world’s biggest app store.
We do believe that it will feature an aluminium body andwe’ve been the ones to break the news about this back in June. And it should feature OIS too, as camera technologies have evolved a lot and it’s now doable.
Android due the apps, unless tizen is android compatible and the battery
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I think there will be the possibility that there will be 2 versions one running android and one running tizen
Maybe a dual boot system?
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I doubt you'll ever see Tizen on a shipping device. It's all about the Apps... and who is going to write Tizen apps?
For the users... its all about the Apps. They'll buy the device that has the fancy apps and can play all the games.
For the developers... they'll write the Apps for the devices they can make money from. And one (1) phone does not make you money on apps unless you are apple and sell 9 million phones in a weekend.
Look how hard Microsoft is working to try and get developers to write apps for its phones? ($100 giftcard for every app!)
Tizen is dead before arrival...
If anyone can break free from Android it would be Samsung. As far as apps they can be expanded. I would be all for it if it was open source (heard that it was could be wrong) and updates were more frequently. Samsung already has an app store. That being said I don't believe Tizen is ready for prime time. Plus with Android being free I don't know why the need to venture on their own
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It will be shipped with Android 4.4.2
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There is not a chance that the S5 will be shipped with Tizen...
spazzy1912 said:
There is not a chance that the S5 will be shipped with Tizen...
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Yep. For someone to even take the question seriously at this point shows a lack of understanding the mobile market.
hey guys the s5 is out !!!!
hey all ppl here the system dump is out finally !!!
I have been using my PRO 12.2 for a couple of months and I am quite happy. Coming from a Google Nexus background (phone and 7" tablet) one of my main concerns with purchasing a Samsung product was it's poor history of providing software updates. I have owned Samsung tablets in the past and always felt stranded by the lack of updated versions of Android.
It will be interesting to see how fast it will take them to push out Android 4.4.3 OTA. 4.4.3 is a minor update so one would think that it would be fairly quick. I really hope Samsung passes the test. Let's see how serious they really are.
One of the major Samsung`s disadvantages is the poor support and updates for their whole products starting from smart phones to tablets.
For example Galaxy note 10.1 2014 edition was released in October 2014 with Jelly Bean 4.2 and just weeks ago Samsung started to roll out 4.3 for that great tablet. While they have released the Note Pro 12.2 with the kitkat 4.3 on January 2014...
"If you wanna the recent updates and software go and get their new product or you have to wait for a long time till you get the updates"
I think this is Samsung`s Policy.
skyhigh73 said:
One of the major Samsung`s disadvantages is the poor support and updates for their whole products starting from smart phones to tablets.
For example Galaxy note 10.1 2014 edition was released in October 2014 with Jelly Bean 4.2 and just weeks ago Samsung started to roll out 4.3 for that great tablet. While they have released the Note Pro 12.2 with the kitkat 4.3 on January 2014...
"If you wanna the recent updates and software go and get their new product or you have to wait for a long time till you get the updates"
I think this is Samsung`s Policy.
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... and that concerns me.
Please I am a new member here would you please show me how to download akp
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Samsung does often appear to be neglecting devices when it comes to updates. Fact of the matter is, 99% of the time the cause is a significant problem in the software adaptation.
The Note 3 was the very first non-nexus device to get 4.4.2, so it's not always the case.
You can't measure the release by Nexus standards. The Nexus-release is a glorified beta-test.
ShadowLea said:
Samsung does often appear to be neglecting devices when it comes to updates. Fact of the matter is, 99% of the time the cause is a significant problem in the software adaptation.
The Note 3 was the very first non-nexus device to get 4.4.2, so it's not always the case.
You can't measure the release by Nexus standards. The Nexus-release is a glorified beta-test.
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I don`t think so...
Simply there are 2 devices with almost the same hardware specs (Note 10.1 and Note Pro) the first one (10.1) has recently started to get the 4.4.2 update while the Note Pro was released with the Kitkat 4.4.2 on January 2014.
Another example, the upcoming tablets 10.5 S/Note 4/ Tab 4/...etc will be released with the recent updates 4.4.3 which is still not available for any other Tab/Note/Smart Phone...
I think it is not the matter of software adaptation but the priority goes for the upcoming products not those already released....
ShadowLea said:
Samsung does often appear to be neglecting devices when it comes to updates. Fact of the matter is, 99% of the time the cause is a significant problem in the software adaptation.
The Note 3 was the very first non-nexus device to get 4.4.2, so it's not always the case.
You can't measure the release by Nexus standards. The Nexus-release is a glorified beta-test.
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OEMs can access Google's internal Android's sources before they're open-sourced. Nexus isn't a benchmark - it's a public release of already finished firmware, and patching up the final issues, OEM's updates should follow within one-two months, not 6+ months or more. Since Note 3 is still one of their top phablets with no successors, they had to update it quickly enough to make people stay on their devices - if you'd spend 650 pounds on a device and then wait 6 months (if you're lucky) to get an update, you'd probably be pissed off (and rightfully so). They abandon their low-end devices or older flagships quite quickly.
For example, Galaxy S2 (which I own) was updated to 4.1, but not any further, despite being perfectly capable of doing so. According to Samsung, it's because they ran out of memory with TouchWiz bloatware 99.9% folks never use features, despite the fact that S3 was updated to 4.3, and had 1GB RAM - just as S2 did, S2 /system was 512MB, /preload was another 512MB. S3's firmware was ~800MB. So, really, it's just them having crappy business practices.
Another example? Galaxy Mini 2. It's moderately popular in Poland - it's cheap and "just works", and was released with 2.3 - had a couple of point releases, but never got past Gingerbread. There are 4.x ROMs for this phone here, and they're fast and fine. Capable - just Samsung's not interested. Okay, they were - and eventually announced that no update will be released.
I'm honestly admiring Microsoft for their WP8.1 upgrade policy.
Been there, done that. . My experience with a Verizon galaxy tab 10.1 was enough to convince me not to buy another Verizon variant of a Samsung tablet. If samsung is slow at releasing updates it only gets worse on carrier versions. Look at AT&T... they put in their FCC application at around the same time as Verizon for the Note probut are only now announcing it. In a world where refreshed hardware is released yearly having a 4 month lag in release is a bit concerning.
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I have been using my PRO 12.2 for a couple of months and I am quite happy. Coming from a Google Nexus background (phone and 7" tablet) one of my main concerns with purchasing a Samsung product was it's poor history of providing software updates. I have owned Samsung tablets in the past and always felt stranded by the lack of updated versions of Android.
It will be interesting to see how fast it will take them to push out Android 4.4.3 OTA. 4.4.3 is a minor update so one would think that it would be fairly quick. I really hope Samsung passes the test. Let's see how serious they really are.
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That's a systemic Android issue. Apple puts out updates to their 7 year old devices, but Android devices are always abandoned in less than a year. Hopefully, we'll get better support for this device.
That's all... Nothing more to say :crying:
http://www.youmobile.org/blogs/entry/Samsung-Officially-will-Not-Release-Lollipop-update-for-the-Galaxy-S4-mini-after-all-didn-t-pass-the-Testing-Process
Really heartbreaking. Been waiting on for months. Had held off the urge to root my device, which is still stock till date. I only want the permission to write to ext SD card.
Lollll
Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
There are no reason for
Samsung say :
"We apologize for all S4 mini users but Samsung cares more the user experience of its devices and the update will affect your experience with the device"
LOL..:laugh::laugh:.If true, 95% of models produced by Samsung should not be on the market.
Always the same jokes by Samung when it comes to updates. In fact, Samsung's development team has always been bad. Probably an update would be a disaster as I have seen in so many other Samsung models.
ADR USR said:
Samsung say :
"We apologize for all S4 mini users but Samsung cares more the user experience of its devices and the update will affect your experience with the device"
LOL..:laugh::laugh:.If true, 95% of models produced by Samsung should not be on the market.
Always the same jokes by Samung when it comes to updates. In fact, Samsung's development team has always been bad. Probably an update would be a disaster as I have seen in so many other Samsung models.
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First of all I am sure they did not start lollipop development for s4 mini.
So all the talk of "optimal experience" and "comprehensive testing" is BS.
Samsung's developers are noobs. With all those million dollar resources
they could not get lollipop working on a device with 1.5gb ram and fast
chipset. To be brutally honest F4k and arco68 are better than those fat
guys sitting at samsung. With limited resources F4k and arco68 did a great
job. We must be happy and privileged to have such great devs. :good:
This is not only with Samsung but for all the companies. I had the same experience with SONY, LG etc. So thanks to all our devs for keeping our phone alive.
All these clarifications by Samsung regarding optimal experience is a pure **llsh**.
When Android ONE hardwares can run lollipop there is no reason why these devices can't.
There should be an uniformity regarding giving updates as provided by Google for android ONE phones - support for two years.
I love Apple on this respect. Minimum three updates and the rumour for this year is iPhone 4s will get ios9 meaning thereby four continuous updates. Appreciable.
If one needs updates for android devices for a longer period of time, it's better to go for Nexus devices by Google, though single SIM but worth the investment.
Google should do something for this wide fragmentation in Android devices regardless their age and hardware. The companies should be somehow tied to commit a minimum support period for OS updates while buying.
Thanks
Good news guys! Galaxy S5 mini 5.1.1 Lollipop is coming!!!
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I Do not believe it will be launched soon. usually there are leaks from samsung..it is not the case..
anyone have more precise info?
samsung just announced that the newly arrived e5 and e7 won't be getting lollipop even though lollipop was promised and some e5 already run it (weird stuff). my point being, i'm not optimistic that the s5 mini will get android 5.0. if you remember samsung promised 4.4 kitkat for the international s3 mini and never gave the update, despite it being one of the top 10 selling devices across the globe. the s5 mini was going to get 5.0 between early may and late june and since no leaks have been found the chances are slim. hope i'm wrong, of course.
What a joke. At least release the S6 mini so we can upgrade.........
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What a joke. At least release the S6 mini so we can upgrade.........
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And that in itself is a joke. I just bought my S5 mini only a few months ago. I'm not going to just go buy a new S6 because Samsung thinks that I need to do that, when I have a perfectly fine S5 mini that they can upgrade, as they said it would be.
I will never EVER buy a Samsung product again with how they have handled this.
you need to stay away from samsung phones unless they are a galaxy s or a note, or at least an alpha (minis excluded). after my post above i searched the web and found that i was wrong (at least theoritically) because samsung uk officially stated the s5 mini will get lollipop, if i'm not wrong the uk version is the exynos one (international). but i don't trust them till i see the update myself.
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And that in itself is a joke. I just bought my S5 mini only a few months ago. I'm not going to just go buy a new S6 because Samsung thinks that I need to do that, when I have a perfectly fine S5 mini that they can upgrade, as they said it would be.
I will never EVER buy a Samsung product again with how they have handled this.
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Me too. Except S Note series... But if they break Note series, THAT'S IT. I'M OUT OF SAMSUNG COMMUNITY.
The 5.0.1 update was promised in the late Q2 2015, but -I reaaaaally hope- was cancelled because Sam is cooking the 5.1.1 update (as samsung.youmobile.org says). In this case we'll have to wait a couple of months to see if Sam says something about.
I think my next smartphone will be the next Nexus 5 after the upcoming 2015 revision (if Google release another Nexus 5 in 2016) or maybe a Nokia smartphone if they really come to Android...
DaNxMaKiNa said:
The 5.0.1 update was promised in the late Q2 2015, but -I reaaaaally hope- was cancelled because Sam is cooking the 5.1.1 update (as samsung.youmobile.org says). In this case we'll have to wait a couple of months to see if Sam says something about.
I think my next smartphone will be the next Nexus 5 after the upcoming 2015 revision (if Google release another Nexus 5 in 2016) or maybe a Nokia smartphone if they really come to Android...
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The idiotic response to that by Samsung. Just more ways to totally irk your consumer-base:
https://twitter.com/PurposeDevoid/status/636890536318775297
People are already so pissed that they don't have Lollipop, let's keep more secrets and things from them to make them hate Samsung more! Dumbfounding.
"Our lips are sealed", ROFLMAO
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I think we will never have lollipop on the s5 mini ...
ohtna said:
I think we will never have lollipop on the s5 mini ...
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I think so...
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Maybe anyone ported from other device? Is it possible?
s3 QS
No dev support, no lollipop.
Good news for gs5 mini users! The Update is in Testing mode now. It's confirmed 100% that we will get Lollipop. Source
Has been just released for USA version:
Model SM-G800R4
Model name GALAXY S5 mini
Country USA
Version Android 5.1.1
Changelist 5720691
Build date Tue, 01 Sep 2015 11:24:15 +0000
Product code USC
PDA G800R4VXU1BOI1
CSC G800R4USC1BOI1
Hope soon for the european also!!
s3 QS
jonnie77 said:
Hope soon for the european also!!
s3 QS
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Yep.... But I think Its gonna take a long long time.... As everything @ Samsung
Is there any posibility to install the us version on g800f?
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No, you can't. The main US version mounts an Snapdragon SoC, the european an Exynos SoC. Both versions are technically different, although they share specs the SoC isn't the same. Two SoCs, two different ROMs...
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Hi, I know that S5 G900F(no atm)/M/S that it has released on April 2014 and it is getting Android 6.0.1 TW Official from Samsung, and I am answering me if Galaxy S4 Value Edition I9515 gets Android 6.0.1 TW official from Samsung, because it has released on end May 2014 and it has good specs to run it without a problem. It is more modern than S5 theorically, and if it gets it, it can be port to normal i9505 variant?? Because it has same specs including Snap 600 and Adreno 320.
Thankss for your attention.
Have a nice day.
I doubt Samsung will release Marshmallow TW for any of the S4 models, even if they at capable of running it.
They have a stupid 2 year update warranty policy. What it means is that, for those 2 years, the device will get updates, but once those 2 years are up, no more software updates.
The only thing Samsung will provide now will probably just security updates.
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I doubt Samsung will release Marshmallow TW for any of the S4 models, even if they at capable of running it.
They have a stupid 2 year update warranty policy. What it means is that, for those 2 years, the device will get updates, but once those 2 years are up, no more software updates.
The only thing Samsung will provide now will probably just security updates.
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Agreed, am seriously doubting that too.
Not to mention that we're seeing those ads 'upgrade to the Galaxy S6/S7 and get $250 dollars worth of accessories from our online store' on Facebook.
It also seems very stupid that they have not yet fixed the lag on the task switcher which I am sure that the S4 is capable of running smoothly even after 3 lollipop OTA updates.
Samsung unlike most OEMs always have a habit of not fully upgrading the UI of certain apps like the lockscreen, camera app, voice recorder, music or even to add a S6 themer in bid that those extra features will justify an upgrade.
Not being harsh on Samsung as other phone makers have the same 2 year update period unless if it's apple or something, but they could have at least upgraded the UI properly.
So yeah, I'd recommend the OP not to hold his or her breath.
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