For those that sound quality through earphones is very important
I9300XXUGNA5, Boeffla 5.2, Earsonics SM3v2
Does anybody know which DAC comes with the S5? Is it a Wolfson?
I9300XXUGNA5, Boeffla 5.2, Earsonics SM3v2
Agaranda said:
Does anybody know which DAC comes with the S5? Is it a Wolfson?
I9300XXUGNA5, Boeffla 5.2, Earsonics SM3v2
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If the SOC is Qualcomm, the answer is no.
The traditional question is whether the Exynos and Snapdragon versions will use different DACs and, if so, which ones.
Will we ever see the fruits of the deal that Samsung signed with Wolfson?
Exynos is pretty much guaranteed to carry Wolfson. Qualcomm uses their own DAC in their soc's. If it's anything like the s4 Qualcomm vs Exynos situation then they should both be excellent. Most audiophiles hardly hear a difference between the two. The real advantage of Wolfson comes with audio mods
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With the S5 being water resistant, I wonder if it will effect the loud speaker? Will it make it sound more muffled?
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With the S5 being water resistant, I wonder if it will effect the loud speaker? Will it make it sound more muffled?
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You bring up a good point and this too is one my concerns, based on every other water resistant device released, loud speaker quality and loudness has been s***. With the HTC M8 releasing with supposedly upgraded BoomSound, it would be counterintuitive for Samsung to further themselves from the quality of HTC's speakers just to provide water resistance.
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It seems like Samsung could do themselves and us a favor and make the Exynos compatible with USA LTE carriers and give us all the Wolfson DAC.
The S5 will not feature the best sound repoduction available for music, thats pretty sure, but I'm primarily interested in listening through headphones in which case the choice of which headphone to use contributes to like 95% of the sound quality obtained.
The Qualcomm chipset will have reasonably low noise and distorsion and ok ability to drive phones, its no Wolfson, but it wont exactly cripple a pair of good cans. Not so good cans will always sound inferior on ANY phone. And all the rivals use Qualcomm as well so S5 will only be worse than it's own kin and Iphone. HTCs Beats I can totally live without as I am all in for natural sound ie HiFi ie no coloring of the source. Beats is ALL coloring the source, some like it but I don't.
Rooting will probably be necessary though, to unlock the max volume restriction.
I would have liked a dedicated solution, but I can live with the SOC ....
MultiLockOn said:
Exynos is pretty much guaranteed to carry Wolfson. Qualcomm uses their own DAC in their soc's. If it's anything like the s4 Qualcomm vs Exynos situation then they should both be excellent. Most audiophiles hardly hear a difference between the two. The real advantage of Wolfson comes with audio mods
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no its not guaranteed , Note 3 with Exynos use Yamaha DAC :|
yahyoh said:
no its not guaranteed , Note 3 with Exynos use Yamaha DAC :|
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LoL I guess the Qualcomm SOC at least has better sound than those Yamaha DAC:s
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LoL I guess the Qualcomm SOC at least has better sound than those Yamaha DAC:s
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yeah newer Qcom DAC's are not that bad actually
busab said:
With the S5 being water resistant, I wonder if it will effect the loud speaker? Will it make it sound more muffled?
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If it's as good as the speaker on the S4 active then it should be fine as that's pretty loud
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If it's as good as the speaker on the S4 active then it should be fine as that's pretty loud
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Since the S4 Active was never released in Canada, I have never had a chance to try it out. How does the speaker compare to the regular S4?
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Since the S4 Active was never released in Canada, I have never had a chance to try it out. How does the speaker compare to the regular S4?
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Oh right, no worries. well I had the s4 and my gf has the active and the active is louder both speaker and in headphones
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If the SOC is Qualcomm, the answer is no.
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oh. i thought the note 3 had one lol
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Well, that's good to hear, I know my dad's Z1 speaker sounds like absolute garbage when compared to the S4.
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Well, that's good to hear, I know my dad's Z1 speaker sounds like absolute garbage when compared to the S4.
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Fingers crossed the s5 is as good
I tried a Galaxy S5 for four days.
Sound quality trough earphones is worse, by far, than it is with the S3 plus Boeffla.
Returned.
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Is apt-x confirmed at least?
I use my sennheiser apt-x headphones or hs3000 in the main with my s3 so that circumvents the problem a little
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This is my main concern. Who decided to have flac support advertising with such bad sound in the 2? Post what the 3 has here.
I think it will be the the same thing, probably Yamaha. Cutting cost is the name of the game after all. At least we don't have to deal with Beats Audio and I hope Samsung don't jump on that band wagon.
I don't know what exact DAC does Sony phones use, but my Xperia Play have suprprisingly good sound quality.
You might also be interested in the Meizu MX which will also have the same quadcore Exynos as the SIII and pentaband, with 32 or 64gb. Meizu have a reputation of good sound quality. You'll be hard press for any community development on it though.
the DAC is indeed something ive been concerned about.. the SGS1 had a better DAC than the S2.. hopefully another year will make better DAC's cheaper. tomorrow is the big release, but the DAC wont be talked about, things like this never are.. it wont be till we have them in hand and run tests on them ourself that well know what were looking at.. thats how it was with the S1, and the S2 as well..
but i plan to get the S3 the day it comes out, and will be testing the DAC myself, and supercurio will be analyzing my results to see what he can do as well, as he doesnt plan to buy the S3 right away
There could be WM dac coming. From Supercurio:
https://twitter.com/#!/supercurio/status/197717329877024768
Galaxy Tab 2 has it:
https://twitter.com/#!/supercurio/status/197721233704484865
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There could be WM dac coming. From Supercurio:
https://twitter.com/#!/supercurio/status/197717329877024768
Galaxy Tab 2 has it:
https://twitter.com/#!/supercurio/status/197721233704484865
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That would be awesome
This is my actual main concern with the S3.
I really want them to get a good audio chip in there.
Currently using my S1 with my digizoid ZO2 & Audeo PFE 232's (yes those £400 earphones)
TotallydubbedHD said:
This is my actual main concern with the S3.
I really want them to get a good audio chip in there.
Currently using my S1 with my digizoid ZO2 & Audeo PFE 232's (yes those £400 earphones)
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Like wise using my GSS purely for music. With Supercurios Voodoo it's good enough for me on high end IEMs. Would be a plus to the pocket if this has Wolfson as well. Fingers crossed!
I'm glad that Samsung decided to put Wolfson back into their devices.
The Wolfson on the Hummingbird (Galaxy S and Nexus S) is freaking awesome, especially for EDM.
Voodoo Sound + DSP Manager = a rave in my ear.
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I'm glad that Samsung decided to put Wolfson back into their devices.
The Wolfson on the Hummingbird (Galaxy S and Nexus S) is freaking awesome, especially for EDM.
Voodoo Sound + DSP Manager = a rave in my ear.
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Totally agree. It's like porn but for your ears. Only reason I'm carrying an SGS.
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There could be WM dac coming. From Supercurio:
https://twitter.com/#!/supercurio/status/197717329877024768
Galaxy Tab 2 has it:
https://twitter.com/#!/supercurio/status/197721233704484865
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It has Wolfson WM1811:
http://twitter.com/#!/supercurio/status/198149523724439553
http://twitter.com/#!/supercurio/status/198151127534018560
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It has Wolfson WM1811:
http://twitter.com/#!/supercurio/status/198149523724439553
http://twitter.com/#!/supercurio/status/198151127534018560
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Definately has Wolfson DAC, that seems even better than the GS1 series
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Definately has Wolfson DAC, that seems even better than the GS1 series
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From supercurio's analysis:
Like WM8994 in Galaxy S / Nexus S, except:
1x stereo DAC instead of 2x.
2x 2W Speaker amp instead of 2x 1W
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From supercurio's analysis:
Like WM8994 in Galaxy S / Nexus S, except:
1x stereo DAC instead of 2x.
2x 2W Speaker amp instead of 2x 1W
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Yes it should have more output power...with great DAC quality (that seems already not bypassed)
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From supercurio's analysis:
Like WM8994 in Galaxy S / Nexus S, except:
1x stereo DAC instead of 2x.
2x 2W Speaker amp instead of 2x 1W
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How could this hurt us?
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Yes it should have more output power...with great DAC quality (that seems already not bypassed)
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Can you explain on this? I need to read more about it, so can't comment on it. Do you see any flaw in this design?
cheers!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1633685
Duplicate thread, see here
Not sure if that's already been posted.
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/vmzl9/us_variant_of_the_gs3_uses_qualcomms_wcd9310_for/
That's odd. Engadget tested the audio on the US version and commented that it's impressive. Another member here found it amazing with only the supplied headphones. So I am pretty sure it's a Wolfson. But if this turns out to be the Qualcomm chip, I think it will be a deal breaker for many members here.
You know they have their own section now right? And yes it has been posted a few times already.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1667
Its not wolfson.
Confirmed AGAIN by supercurio.
It's using onboard dac.
He's gonna look into voodoo sound for it though.
https://mobile.twitter.com/supercurio/status/217631114334973952
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That's odd. Engadget tested the audio on the US version and commented that it's impressive. Another member here found it amazing with only the supplied headphones. So I am pretty sure it's a Wolfson. But if this turns out to be the Qualcomm chip, I think it will be a deal breaker for many members here.
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Not having a Wolfson chip doesn't mean the sound quality will be bad - this isn't Galaxy S II Yamaha levels of doom & gloom. Other Snapdragon S4 devices like the HTC One S have tested very well for audio quality and response (Amusingly much better than HTC's flagship One X with its Tegra 3 onboard audio - Beats branding really is a sham), so I can't imagine the US SIII variants will be any different.
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Not having a Wolfson chip doesn't mean the sound quality will be bad - this isn't Galaxy S II Yamaha levels of doom & gloom. Other Snapdragon S4 devices like the HTC One S have tested very well for audio quality and response (Amusingly much better than HTC's flagship One X with its Tegra 3 onboard audio - Beats branding really is a sham), so I can't imagine the US SIII variants will be any different.
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Well said.
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Not having a Wolfson chip doesn't mean the sound quality will be bad - this isn't Galaxy S II Yamaha levels of doom & gloom. Other Snapdragon S4 devices like the HTC One S have tested very well for audio quality and response (Amusingly much better than HTC's flagship One X with its Tegra 3 onboard audio - Beats branding really is a sham), so I can't imagine the US SIII variants will be any different.
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Yes, but that's not where the disappointment comes from. The disappointment comes from a developer knowing a type of hardware, Supercurio with the Wolfson DACs, and has extensive study of how to optimize it already even before its release. And not having the DAC makes a big delay in any kind of professional support for it.
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I LITERALLY don't know if the i747m S3 that I use has a Wolfson DAC. That's all.
So i was just wondering if Galaxy S4 will have the Wolfson audio chip in it? I remember from Note 2 that the speakers quality was outstanding for my ears from a phone. Now i have iPhone 5 and its speaker is really good too. Anyone here know will S4 have it?
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So i was just wondering if Galaxy S4 will have the Wolfson audio chip in it?
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Pretty sure the snapdragon 600 variant GS4 will come with Qualcomm's own audio chip, perhaps the same one found in my US GS3 (WCD9310).
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Pretty sure the snapdragon 600 variant GS4 will come with Qualcomm's own audio chip, perhaps the same one found in my US GS3 (WCD9310).
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Yes, confirmed by @supercurio.
No details about the Exynos version yet.
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Yes, confirmed by @supercurio.
No details about the Exynos version yet.
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I don't think we needed confirming that Qualcomms own SOC uses its own DAC lol... especially considering this has been the case for every SOC it has made.
As far as the E5... we will have to see. It is either a Wolfson or a Yamaha. Depending on which it will either sound better or worse then the Qualcomm one.
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Pretty sure the snapdragon 600 variant GS4 will come with Qualcomm's own audio chip, perhaps the same one found in my US GS3 (WCD9310).
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And how good is that compared to Wolfson etc? Good enough?
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I don't think we needed confirming that Qualcomms own SOC uses its own DAC lol... especially considering this has been the case for every SOC it has made.
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I could be wrong, or maybe I misinterpreted the leaked data sheets and other info, but, AFAIK the WCD9310 is a discrete chip, as used with the MSM8960 in ATT HTC OneX LTE, OneS and Evo 4g LTE. (And I guess US GS3 ?)
Yes, the chip may have some "special Qualcomm connections" with the AP/SOC. but still a separate chip.
Is Qualcomm now integrating WCD93xx or whatever internally, inside the physical SOC now ?
I urge caution when reading some Qualcomm press releases and mini document blurbs. Read them literally and you'd think their WCN36xx BT/WiFi/FM combo chips are physically inside the SOC, but they aren't, they just have super special high speed Qualcomm connections that puts part of the (WiFi/BT baseband ?) functionality inside the SOC, with the RF stuff in the 3660/3680 chip.
Anytime a chip is external, of course, there's a possibility the phone OEM didn't go with the all Qualcomm chip reference design. Same with the combo chips where it seems Broadcom remains king. The Qualcomm WCN36xx has missed many major design wins now, despite the huge popularity of the high end Qualcomm SOCs, and it's close integration with same.
This kills me as I live in the US and now I will be stuck with the lame Qualcomm audio. I still am using a Nexus S because I refuse to upgrade to a phone unless it has a Wolfson audio chip.
Being a loyal Galaxy phone user, it's really offensive that Samsung goes cheap with the US versions.
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This kills me as I live in the US and now I will be stuck with the lame Qualcomm audio. I still am using a Nexus S because I refuse to upgrade to a phone unless it has a Wolfson audio chip.
Being a loyal Galaxy phone user, it's really offensive that Samsung goes cheap with the US versions.
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I don't think they went "cheap", and the audio in Qualcomm-based handsets isn't really that bad at all. I have an HTC Vivid and the audio sounds fine. I think their main focus was LTE connectivity when choosing Qualcomm chips for the US market.
I do understand what you mean by wanting top-quality audio though. But the audio quality isn't "bad" by any means. Don't let that dissuade you from enjoying what looks to be a great phone.
Sent from my HTC Vivid.
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And how good is that compared to Wolfson etc? Good enough?
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It's the same DAC used by the DNA/Butterfly and One. It's scored well. The difference being the HTC devices have h/w amplifiers. So sound quality should be the same but loudness may vary.
GSMArena on the One...
The HTC One audio output is almost identical to that of the HTC Butterfly, which is great news really as the former HTC flagship really aced our audio quality test. In fact the two Beats-powered smartphones offer arguably the best audio quality in the smartphone world right now.
The HTC One did great in the active external amplifier part of the test, posting great scores all over the field. In addition it had volume levels higher than all of its direct competitors, save for the aforementioned HTC Butterfly, which it only matched.
More impressively, there's next to no degradation when you plug in a pair of headphones. The stereo crosstalk rises a tiny bit, but that's the only affected reading. Volume levels remain at the same high level, too. This is the second smartphone in a row where HTC makes the Beats audio logo stand for something other than a simple equalizer, but as we said last time, the wait was probably worth it.
N2 with Wolfson for comparison...
Well the USA device foes cost about 150 less compared to the international version.
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Nexus 10 (exynos 5250)uses Wolfson DAC,so there is a chance that s4(exynos 5410) will also use WolfsonDAC
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i9100g user said:
Nexus 10 (exynos 5250)uses Wolfson DAC,so there is a chance that s4(exynos 5410) will also use WolfsonDAC
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That's quite a reassuring news. I just hope they won't jinx it with Yamaha.
Galaxy S4 uses Wolfson WM5102
François Simond @supercurio 4h
Thanks to a #VoodooReport sent by @Faryaab I can confirm #GalaxyS4 GT-I9500 uses very high specs @wolfsonmicro WM5102
https://twitter.com/supercurio/status/315952191812820992
https://twitter.com/supercurio/status/315953474363858945
"with a catch"
There's always a catch
I hope supercurio can convince Samsung to fix it.
The wolfson audio chip has become more like a myth. The usa s3 didnt have it but still its audio quality was superb.
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The wolfson audio chip has become more like a myth. The usa s3 didnt have it but still its audio quality was superb.
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Well, the audio chip in the latest Snapdragons is very good. Its just that, according to audio experts (supercurio!!!) Wolfson DAC is a bit better than the Snapdragon/Krait one!! Both are better than the Yamaha turd !!
Its all relative you see !!
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Well, the audio chip in the latest Snapdragons is very good. Its just that, according to audio experts (supercurio!!!) Wolfson DAC is a bit better than the Snapdragon/Krait one!! Both are better than the Yamaha turd !!
Its all relative you see !!
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Maybe but even if it wasnt of course supercurio would still say wolfson is a bit better(conflict of interest.)
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Reported on another thread GT-I9500 uses Wolfson WM5102, from a VoodooReport sent to supercurio.
IMO we still don't know GT-I9505 for sure. Could be same Wolfson, could be Qualcomm, or something else (doubtful).
Read the published stats. No Snapdragon has ever got better than 80ish S/N, while Wolfson/Samsung is about 90, about the same as Apple.
From Wikipedia:
The 16-bit compact disc has a theoretical dynamic range of about 96 dB[11] (or about 98 dB for sinusoidal signals, per the formula[10]). Digital audio with 20-bit digitization is theoretically capable of 120 dB dynamic range; similarly, 24-bit digital audio calculates to 144 dB dynamic range.[7] All digital audio recording and playback chains include input and output converters and associated analog circuitry, significantly limiting practical dynamic range. Observed 16-bit digital audio dynamic range is about 90 dB.[11]
I loved the sound quality of Galaxy S3 , due to wolfson DAC in it.
How does LG G2's music quality stand out against it?
I usually listen to Electro.
I'm only talking about the earphones.
I have a sennheiser Momentum and the sound is very clear in the lg g2, i always listening to Hardstyle ?
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Sound is great for me. Klipsch x10.
LG G2
Sound quality is really nice. I was experimenting with the same earphones, and s4, HTC droid DNA and Note 2. Quality is the best in G2.
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Melodycd said:
Sound quality is really nice. I was experimenting with the same earphones, and s4, HTC droid DNA and Note 2. Quality is the best in G2.
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Listening through Shure 535s it sounds better than my note II with Wolfson
Wow! nice.
I just ordered a 32 GB model and getting super hyped.
i hope you guys aren't praising it out of fanboyism
Wow! nice.
I just ordered a 32 GB model and getting super hyped.
i hope you guys aren't praising it out of fanboyism
eggman89 said:
Wow! nice.
I just ordered a 32 GB model and getting super hyped.
i hope you guys aren't praising it out of fanboyism
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TBH: I kinda hated LG before this phone. I'm no lg fanboy but I now think they make great phones.
I've not been a huge fan of LG but so far I am quite pleased with this phone.
I've listened to audio with both my SRH440's and my CX 475's. Both sound quite good. I'm impressed it's got the guts to power the SRH's.
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Wow! nice.
I just ordered a 32 GB model and getting super hyped.
i hope you guys aren't praising it out of fanboyism
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well is not that thick . i dont think is good for electronic music since is very treble oriented ... theres a mod you can do to increase volume because the sound doesn't go loud to power certain headphones
i tested the LG G2 and the S4 and the S4 sounded better , rich sound with more bass .
The LG G2 is thin sounding:good: but with really good clarity
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well is not that thick . i dont think is good for electronic music since is very treble oriented ... theres a mod you can do to increase volume because the sound doesn't go loud to power certain headphones
i tested the LG G2 and the S4 and the S4 sounded better , rich sound with more bass .
The LG G2 is thin sounding:good: but with really good clarity
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I'll take the clarity, because the other stuff can be fixed with an EQ. This is the first phone I've had that completely eliminates alternator whine with the phone charging and just goes to show the lengths LG went to to isolate the DAC. That plus Viper4Android equals a superior listening experience in my eyes (or ears).
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Wow! nice.
I just ordered a 32 GB model and getting super hyped.
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I have had it for 2 weeks and I'm still super hyped First LG phone here and I really didn't expect much. But I like it more every day.
I like the sound with my headphone.
Also I like the headset the phone came with. And I like the sound over speakers. I must be honest, I don't like the phonespeakers even if I have installed the volume mod.
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I'm using the UM Merlin customs with the LG G2.
As an audiophile, I regularly compare players to see which has the best compatibility with my customs and I'm stoked to have found the G2. By far, it has the least background noise/feedback due to EM interference in a phone. Using in-ear monitors, you can hear the processor and other internal components and generally there was a bit of noise coming from my S3. With the G2, such noise is virtually eliminated. The G2 uses the wolfson 5110 DAC which really decreases the noise and increases the soundstage, balance, and clarity tremendously. I would say the audio quality on this device is comparable, if not, greater than the Cowon music players I have used in the past.
Truth be told, the only reason I chose this phone was because of the audio quality. Hearing is believing.
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I'm using the UM Merlin customs with the LG G2.<snip>
The G2 uses the wolfson 5110 DAC
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Nice IEMs. I've been trying to settle on a custom for a while now. Still wearing universals (SE535 at the moment). I'll probably pull the trigger in 2014. Thinking 1964s or UMs.
What's your source for Wolfson info? When I was researching, I only found reference to the Wolfson in early rumors. The later, more confirmable info I gathered pointed to a Qualcom DAC. I haven't yet seen a proper teardown with BOM.
Excellent, but...
The sound is excellent with a good set of earphones, but the bundled "improved" Quadbeats 2 are pure crap, never seen anything worse (atleast my Quadsbeats 2)
I've been wondering this too. The only headphones I have are a pair of iPhone earbuds that my wife isn't using anymore. The sound isn't bad, but the volume seems much lower on it than my S3. I was wondering if the quality of sound is dependent upon the type of headphones you're using.
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I must be honest, I don't like the phonespeakers even if I have installed the volume mod.
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Same here
Vertigo06 said:
I've been wondering this too. The only headphones I have are a pair of iPhone earbuds that my wife isn't using anymore. The sound isn't bad, but the volume seems much lower on it than my S3. I was wondering if the quality of sound is dependent upon the type of headphones you're using.
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So many variables here that it's cumbersome to discuss on a forum. To say that sound quality depends on headphone type is at once wholly true and woefully inadequate.
cggorman said:
Nice IEMs. I've been trying to settle on a custom for a while now. Still wearing universals (SE535 at the moment). I'll probably pull the trigger in 2014. Thinking 1964s or UMs.
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JH has just opened preorders for the 12 driver Roxanne which I might be looking at (in the near future) once I test run it.
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What's your source for Wolfson info? When I was researching, I only found reference to the Wolfson in early rumors. The later, more confirmable info I gathered pointed to a Qualcom DAC. I haven't yet seen a proper teardown with BOM.
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I have yet to see a stripdown as of yet, but various sources point the DAC to be the wm5110. Until there is a full strip, I doubt it would be possible to verify but it is quite likely as there is definitely a significant reduction of noise.
"Fully-differential internal analogue architecture, minimal analogue signal paths and on-chip RF noise filters ensure a very high degree of noise immunity." - Wolfson PB 5110 Datasheet
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Sources: http://www.enjoythemusic.com/news/0813/
http://www.head-fi.org/t/681818/lg-g2-android-phone-first-24-bit-192khz-phone-dac
http://www.alpha-audio.nl/wordpress/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Wolfson-wm5110.pdf
I just purchased a pair of Beats earphones and tested them on both the S6 and S7 Edge and noticed that the overall sound and bass is much more louder and crisp on the S6 than on my S7 Edge. That said, has anyone who has previously owned an S6 or S6 Edge found there to be any significant difference in audio quality between these 2 devices?
LuigiBull23 said:
I just purchased a pair of Beats earphones and tested them on both the S6 and S7 Edge and noticed that the overall sound and bass is much more louder and crisp on the S6 than on my S7 Edge. That said, has anyone who has previously owned an S6 or S6 Edge found there to be any significant difference in audio quality between these 2 devices?
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Have you heard anything better using BT audio? I've needed to use Viper4android on all my other phones to get the sound quality I want.
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Bataga said:
Have you heard anything better using BT audio? I've needed to use Viper4android on all my other phones to get the sound quality I want.
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I'm just talking stock for now until we get root. There's a noticeable difference in audio quality between my 2 devices. I'm just looking for confirmation from others.
LuigiBull23 said:
I'm just talking stock for now until we get root. There's a noticeable difference in audio quality between my 2 devices. I'm just looking for confirmation from others.
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I don't have the device yet but there should be a difference in sound. The s7 comes with a custom Samsung audio chip (Lucky is the name I believe). Samsung may be taking audio quality seriously now considering they now market high quality headphones.
Now as far as those Beats headphones. Audiotechnia or Vmoda are the way to go![emoji1]
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robogoflow said:
I don't have the device yet but there should be a difference in sound. The s7 comes with a custom Samsung audio chip (Lucky is the name I believe). Samsung may be taking audio quality seriously now considering they now market high quality headphones.
Now as far as those Beats headphones. Audiotechnia or Vmoda are the way to go![emoji1]
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I will definitely look into those but what I meant was that the audio quality on my S6 overall is louder and more crisp than the S7. My findings are only based on these Beats earphones but thought it was worth a mention. I know Samsung is using a new custom audio chip and with that you'd think the overall sound quality would be far superior to that of its predecessor but based on my results thus far, the sound just isn't up to par with my S6. It's tolerable though so I can't complain. Again, just thought it was worth mentioning.
LuigiBull23 said:
I will definitely look into those but what I meant was that the audio quality on my S6 overall is louder and more crisp than the S7. My findings are only based on these Beats earphones but thought it was worth a mention. I know Samsung is using a new custom audio chip and with that you'd think the overall sound quality would be far superior to that of its predecessor but based on my results thus far, the sound just isn't up to par with my S6. It's tolerable though so I can't complain. Again, just thought it was worth mentioning.
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I just received mine yesterday but I did notice something off from the s6. Tested via Android Auto (which uses USB audio) and my Jaybirds. Still good sound quality but not as crisp as the S6. Tweaked the EQ quite a bit but still have more work to do.
LuigiBull23 said:
I will definitely look into those but what I meant was that the audio quality on my S6 overall is louder and more crisp than the S7. My findings are only based on these Beats earphones but thought it was worth a mention. I know Samsung is using a new custom audio chip and with that you'd think the overall sound quality would be far superior to that of its predecessor but based on my results thus far, the sound just isn't up to par with my S6. It's tolerable though so I can't complain. Again, just thought it was worth mentioning.
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Seriously? I was hoping it sounds better than the s6 since its a new chip made by Samsung. The s6 I believed used a Wolfson.(don't quote me on that). Which apple used in the past. That is really disappointing if the quality is worse than the s6
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robogoflow said:
Seriously? I was hoping it sounds better than the s6 since its a new chip made by Samsung. The s6 I believed used a Wolfson.(don't quote me on that). Which apple used in the past. That is really disappointing if the quality is worse than the s6
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Looks like I just got confirmation from the user above. Good to know it's not just me. Now, don't get me wrong, the quality isn't BAD but it isn't great either. As I said, it's tolerable but just not as loud and crisp as the S6. We should have more options to enhance audio output once we have root but until then, I'm going to continue trying to play around with the EQ and tweak it just right to mimic that of the S6.
Beats are horrible. Read the reviews. Your issues are due to beats
bash_array said:
Beats are horrible. Read the reviews. Your issues are due to beats
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I guess you misunderstood my post.. First of all, Beats headphones aren't as bad as you claim. There are both pros and cons just like any other piece of technology. Some like them, some don't. They're just decent in my opinion.
The whole point behind my op was that I first noticed a difference in audio quality when comparing the sound outputted from these earbuds on the S6 with that outputted on the S7. The overall sound is definitely much louder and crisp than on my S7. That's all I was saying..
But since you think Beats suck, what would you recommend I try?
Yup. That's why these Beats earphones sound just fine on my S6, right? Once again, you've misconstrued my OP but it's cool... No need to reply. Have a good one.
LuigiBull23 said:
Yup. That's why these Beats earphones sound just fine on my S6, right? Once again, you've misconstrued my OP but it's cool... No need to reply. Have a good one.
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Perhaps bash_array's xda acct. has been hijacked? Hard to believe someone with more "thanks" than posts is a lazy reader AND belligerent. Your s6/s7 comparison is clearly valid regardless of earbuds used. Thanks for sharing your experience.
I use BT in my car and have noticed significant audio quality and clarity
Have you checked under audio experience section in settings?
The dac the exynos devices use is a Wolfson one. All the last generation galaxies use the Wolfson chip since that's what's paired with the exynos. Qualcomm always used their in house dac which is not bad but it's not as good as the Wolfson dac. So that's why the sound quality may differ. I have the note 5 and contemplating getting the exynos s7 edge because of this alone. And also due to the fact that I think I'll be done with rooting
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The dac the exynos devices use is a Wolfson one. All the last generation galaxies use the Wolfson chip since that's what's paired with the exynos. Qualcomm always used their in house dac which is not bad but it's not as good as the Wolfson dac. So that's why the sound quality may differ. I have the note 5 and contemplating getting the exynos s7 edge because of this alone. And also due to the fact that I think I'll be done with rooting
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Thanks man. Definitely explains the difference in the overall quality.
AngioNicholai said:
I use BT in my car and have noticed significant audio quality and clarity
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have you or anyone heard any sort of static or crackling with the bluetooth audio? This was an issue for me in my Note 5. I went through 2 other Note 5's to see if it was the phone and for whatever reason, each Note 5 would play crackling and static audio via bluetooth to my car (a '15 Honda Civic). My nexus 6P works fine though.
Bluetooth sounds great. Plugged into headphone jack and it definitely not as clear. Midrange is gone, treble low. Same aux port on radio, just different 1/8 plug in...one bt, one line in. Headphones don't sound great, but are ok (tolerable)...tried the couple I had around.
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