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Hi, First of all I love pure stock and that Nexus gets all the updates first, and the Rom's our great Dev's create.
But with Nexus devices we only get ROM's that they all look the same Aosp,Aokp not counting the MiUi (which is the ugliest I have ever seen). Just look at the Galaxy Nexus Android development. They are all the same, and it gets boring.
With TW and LG or Sense we get mixture of Aosp CM Aokp mixture. Which means they have much more features mixed that Nexus will not get.
What you guy's think?
There was some sense and tw ROMs. If I'm correct they where really broken. There just wasn't much support no one wanted them. Making a ROM is a lot of work especially making a whole new ui work. If no one really wants it its pointless
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I am pretty sure I will go stock with apex launcher.
Actually 4.1 and 4.2 are really great os with a good amount of useful features. I don't know if I really "need" a custom Rom. Root will fit for me ...
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The only thing I would want of these ROMs would be features and apps, like for example, the HTC or Samsung cameras that take 99 pictures at ~6 pictures per second, take pictures while filming and have TONs of features. Stock camera always sucked and it's not the 4.2 update that will change things.
Trust me, you don't want the full Sense, TouchWiz, etc.
They break the Holo experience, slow down the device, make incompatibilities with some apps, etc.
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I will do what i normally do. Stock ROM (it will be fast enough anyway) and minimal applications. Makes it great for a balance of speed and battery life.
I hate all the Samsung applications and stuff like that which just slow down and drain battery on my Galaxy s3 and cm 10 is buggy as **** due to no support. Also the rom is themed like a kids playground and I have no idea why anyone would want a nature themed phone.
Anyway. Stock is how it is meant to be and the only real non-gimped option IMO.
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So I have a Nexus 4. The latest and greatest of any Android experience. Why should I choose to take the Custom ROM route?
kernels? What's the difference over stock?
Please help me decide! Thanks!
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mcarbaja said:
So I have a Nexus 4. The latest and greatest of any Android experience. Why should I choose to take the Custom ROM route?
kernels? What's the difference over stock?
Please help me decide! Thanks!
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Battery life a little more customization and its just fun try it out
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Battery life a little more customization and its just fun try it out
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battery life is a mute point since the 4.2.2 update the default kernel is a beast
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Battery life a little more customization and its just fun try it out
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Actually I have gotten way better battery life on stock but that's just me
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Customization is key for a lot of people who try custom ROMs. Kernels give some great features as well. We have excellent ROM and kernel devs so its really nice. The Nexus 4 is considered a "dev" phone by a lot of people so why not take advantage of the awesome support we have!
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battery life is a mute point since the 4.2.2 update the default kernel is a beast
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Moot*
Also, have you tried EVERY kernel? Harsh keeps close to stock, but adds newer patches and fixes, as well as the ability to change gamma. He still uses mpdecision, which retains the stock snappiness.
OP, using custom ROMs lets you have the latest version of Android + all the cool extras.
T9 dialer, Pie and battery percentage are three VERY popular ones. Mind you, there are ways to add these to the stock ROM, but at that point it's not stock.
one word - COLORS
Run stock as long as you happily can. Keep an eye on the more popular custom ROM threads to see if there's any one, or more, features that you absolutely can't live without, if you're at all interested.
You're running a great ROM already and too many people jump into the ring without doing enough research.
The one thing I can't live without is hiding nav bar,
ok, two things, Touch Control.... Since stock kernel disabled it I had to use a custom kernel. Besides it's old habit. I was a Franco kernel user since Galaxy Nexus.
1. The software buttons can take up a lot of space after the status bar is included. Makes the screen feel less like 4.7"
2. The stock colors really are washed out. Modifying the gamma can get you extremely attractive colors.
3. I like being able to have a flashlight and my hotspot a touch away and having custom tiles proves awesome for that.
4. When you're playing Real Racing 3 and your girlfriend texts you, its kind of a pain in the butt to switch windows . The pie in my ROM let's me read and respond to my notifications on the fly.
5. Aesthetics. The boot animation, custom app color recommendations and artwork in general are just awesome on Paranoid Android 3.1. Cooler than Holo at times
6. Better sound. By default the volume on this sucks but now I've installed Xloud it's just right.
But in the end this is a Nexus device. Works just peachy off the bat but coming from the developer concept series from Google, they don't expect you to take it as is. Different strokes for different folks. 4.2.2 is as is. If you want more though the Nexus is the cornocopia of ROM development. Every big league ROM originates here. Another reason to love it among the rest .
Just my two cents
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CyanogenMod and Stock Kernel
In my opinion the best way to go is CyanogenMod gives you a lot more customization and the battery life, ram speed and CPU clock is perfectly fine so there's no need to get a custom kernel.
Custom rom allows you to control your phone however your want.
As for me, i am using PA Rom. The reason I choose PA because it has some nice tweaks and customization.
- Battery Percentage
- Customizable Lockscreen
- Quick Settings Panel Customization
- Custom color for apps :>
- Volume Button tweaks
- Full Screen (Pie)
All about me.
Customization!!!!!!! I really liked having a top of the line device, except for the crap sound, washed out colors and lack of options. Using P.A.C. Rom with the franco Kernel it seems like a whole new phone. There is almost no end to what I can tweak or modify on my phone. The addition of Awesome Beats and Noozxoide made my phone sound crazy good. Everyones phone is totally their own. No 2 are alike because you can personalize everything. If i wanted the same phone as everyone else I would have bought an Iphone. Once you start flashing you will find it hard to stop. Enjoy the power of Stock for a while and then come to the darkside and you will never want to go back to stock.
There are aspects of custom ROMs and kernels in general that give you an increased fluidity. The nexus 4 is beastly and honestly I run full stock right now until I somehow get bored with its performance and want to Rev the CPU/GPU to its limit
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Much more features, tweaks and customization.
R: Custom roms, but why?
Features and tweaks. Customization.
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Running stock or my modification of it lol. Stock 4.2.2, Root, Franco Kernel, Improved camera patch and Xlouder patch with awesome beats.
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Try it for yourself, bud. Don't be ignorant and make a thread like this.
With the custom rom you can customise more you phone and improve your experience with your phone than stock ROM. Many people said that in latest posts. But no one precise that every custom ROM has some little or big dysfunction. Look the chapter troobleshooting of each custom rom. Even cyanogenmod (very popular) has one.
My strategy is replaced the stock ROM by custom ROM when I 'm feel tired of my phone. And then it allows me to wait several mouths: time to search the right next phone for me and buy it.
How about using the stock deox roms ? This allows you to run the base rom plus flash some small customisations
Customisations in the roms sometimes bring instability, although most of the main roms on here CM /AOKP / AOSP are quite stable but that is why they are development roms
I recently bought a Nexus 4 and have a few questions about whether or not I should root.
Firstly, I'm not new to this. I have in the past rooted 4 android devices including a Gal-nexus. Nevertheless I have concerns.
1. Does performance suffer with custom Roms/kernels? I have found my N4 very responsive but in the past I felt like some speed and fluidity was lost when I flashed new Roms. Is that still the case?
2. A follow on from 1; What's the best Rom?
3. Are there any benefits to rooting specific to the N4 that I otherwise wouldn't know about?
4. Are there any other reason why I should/ should not root that you know?
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I recently bought a Nexus 4 and have a few questions about whether or not I should root.
Firstly, I'm not new to this. I have in the past rooted 4 android devices including a Gal-nexus. Nevertheless I have concerns.
1. Does performance suffer with custom Roms/kernels? I have found my N4 very responsive but in the past I felt like some speed and fluidity was lost when I flashed new Roms. Is that still the case?
2. A follow on from 1; What's the best Rom?
3. Are there any benefits to rooting specific to the N4 that I otherwise wouldn't know about?
4. Are there any other reason why I should/ should not root that you know?
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I don't see how anyone could possibly answer your questions. Performance varies from ROM to ROM, but generally building a ROM that makes performance suffer doesn't regularly become popular. The best ROM is an often asked question, and it gets the same answer every time. You need to try them out and see for yourself. People may offer their opinions, but that's it. You may like something in one ROM which I don't etc. There are benefits to rooting, as a few popular apps require root permissions (Titanium backup i.e). I always root my phones, and I've never regretted doing it.
1. Does performance suffer with custom Roms/kernels? I have found my N4 very responsive but in the past I felt like some speed and fluidity was lost when I flashed new Roms. Is that still the case?
Flash a custom rom if you'd like. Honestly, there's nothing wrong with vanilla android 4.2.2, but it's missing a few things I like having...like expanded power menu and the theme engine
2. A follow on from 1; What's the best Rom?
for me it's paranoid. It looks VERY professional, IMHO, and it offers everything I want in a rom, including an aosp base, rather than CM, which has become a little too trendy for me
3. Are there any benefits to rooting specific to the N4 that I otherwise wouldn't know about?
accessing any functions that would need modding to run from anywhere but the /data directory just like always
4. Are there any other reason why I should/ should not root that you know?
the first thing I did when I unboxed mine (after playing with the stock rom for 20 minutes) was run the bootloader unlock command, then flash cwm so I could run a custom rom I'm probably the wrong person to ask if you're apprehensive about using a custom rom, because I'm always for rooting and customizing
If you want to root it do it at your own risk..btw I haven't rooted mine yet
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If you want to root it do it at your own risk..btw I haven't rooted mine yet
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Thank you for sharing this vital and lifechanging information
@OP:
I would use the phone for a few weeks to get familiar with it, read up in the meantime about the rom`s, kernel`s, mods that are available and fastboot and adb . After that you can realy compare and see the benefits and/or downsides between stock and custom.
As long as you have done the research and understand the risks of rooting your device(and you have stated you do) I would. The whole reason I bought this device is because I knew development would be off the chain.....and it is. Good luck whichever you decide and flash safely.
hyperdude111 said:
I recently bought a Nexus 4 and have a few questions about whether or not I should root.
Firstly, I'm not new to this. I have in the past rooted 4 android devices including a Gal-nexus. Nevertheless I have concerns.
1. Does performance suffer with custom Roms/kernels? I have found my N4 very responsive but in the past I felt like some speed and fluidity was lost when I flashed new Roms. Is that still the case?
2. A follow on from 1; What's the best Rom?
3. Are there any benefits to rooting specific to the N4 that I otherwise wouldn't know about?
4. Are there any other reason why I should/ should not root that you know?
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Honestly I've been rooted I've tried like 5 roms (top roms like cm, Xenon, xylon, liquid smooth, etc) but I feel like stock is smoother and faster... I root for performance and customization but there's no improvement in performance for me (unless overclocked) so I guess I'm going back to stock rooted
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iNeedICS said:
Honestly I've been rooted I've tried like 5 roms (top roms like cm, Xenon, xylon, liquid smooth, etc) but I feel like stock is smoother and faster... I root for performance and customization but there's no improvement in performance for me (unless overclocked) so I guess I'm going back to stock rooted
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Roms don`t make phones faster, kernels make them faster
i recommend you to root your N4 you will not have any drop downs in performance
gee2012 said:
Roms don`t make phones faster, kernels make them faster
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Hi,
It depends of a certain point of view... What do youy mean by "faster" (I don't ask this to you particularly ), yes a kernel helps but a rom well optimized can do your phone "faster" without any custom kernel.
After all it depends of what do you mean, faster, smoother, etc... is subjective. A combo kernel / rom optimized is the best and I think that just a kernel can't do only the stuff all the time (flash a bloated rom with a ton of scripts and build.prop tweaks as a "fastest and smoother rom", flash a "good" kernel -> the kernel will not help you even with overclocking or anything else).
You can have a good kernel with some good settings but you can broke all this stuff with a "bad" rom... So it's 50 / 50 - rom / kernel.
It's not only the kernel that makes a phone "faster"...
It's like in a car, it's not only the motor that does everything (I mean that does a faster car), there is also the Cx, the tyres, the fuel, etc...
If you do not have a reason to root, don't do it then.
cipsaz said:
If you do not have a reason to root, don't do it then.
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Good remark.
I rooted mine and flashed Faux mainline kernel with stock 4.2.2 and i noticed a huge improvement in battery life and performance. :good:
My reasons for rooting before I even put my SIM card in:
1. It wipes the phone so best to do it first.
2. Titanium Backup to restore transfer apps/data from my Nexus One.
3. Install Greenify
4. Install AdAway
5. Load Franco kernel which doesn't require root but his kernel app does
I knew going in that I wasn't going to load a custom ROM for a long time (if at all). I don't see how it could get much smoother than stock
There is no "Best" ROM. It's all on personal preference. I personally think PA is the best rom, and have stuck by it ever since getting my N4. You might think another rom is best, so just try all the ones that seem interesting to you, and find out what's best for you.
If you just got your nexus 4 enjoy it stock for a while. It works pretty good! Take your time to read. Welcome aboard!
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I'm on stock right now and it's blazing I mean I might root again and try a kernel with mpdecision enabled and that could make a big difference but we'll see I mean I like stock for now there's not much bloat except for like currents, earth, book, and stuff which is just Google play stuff I'm glad I don't have all that tmobile bloat lol
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Yeah Im kind a questioning the point in rooting to. I had rooted and installed RasBean rom with Trinity on my Galaxy Nexus and it was great, but one of the main reasons i rooted was to get stickmount to work for usb memory stick support. As this isnt there yet for the N4 then im failing to see the point... plus once i start flashing roms and taking backups with clockworkmod that eats into available phone space..
im sure i'll be tempted eventually but right now im getting decent battery life, good performance and my screen colours are good enough for me.. so i am on the fence..
will rooting and flashing these custom kernels/roms resolve the wifi instability issue?? thanks!
In my opinion, if You are asking this (and these) question (s) then You definitely should not root your device. It's natural for me to root it 5 minutes after unboxing my new device, but I know why am I doing this. If you asking other people whether You should do it or not then You dont need it
Since there's no real development yet for this amazing tab, is there even a point to rooting? Any bug fixes? Battery improvements? Performance increase? Or will rooting just void warranty, doing nothing more than wasting a $30 1yr plan?
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prichm1992 said:
Since there's no real development yet for this amazing tab, is there even a point to rooting? Any bug fixes? Battery improvements? Performance increase? Or will rooting just void warranty, doing nothing more than wasting a $30 1yr plan?
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Depends on your demands from the tablet. The tablet is already optimized fairly well so rooting won't help out performance and battery as much as it would on say... a Samsung or nexus tablet, but rooting is always something I do because of the apps I like to use. Apps like clean master and battery doctor need root access in order to function at their full potential. But if you don't use apps that require rooting, I would just hold out; android 4.4.3 just came out for other devices and hopefully its only a matter of time before it comes out for the Tegra Note 7 as well.
That pretty much answers my question. I rooted my old galaxy note 2 to dramatically increase performance while gaining a modest increase in battery life. Along the way, I made the colors more vibrant with less LCD brightness, the speakers louder with less static, the processor faster with less heat, etc etc. If that's impossible with the tn7, I'll stay away from root
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As for demands, I demand gaming performance and at least good (6 hours screen on) battery life
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Well if you are gaming, then you might want to consider rooting for one feature only. Gaming apps take up a lot of memory and if you're on stock 4.4.2, google has blocked all apps fro installing onto your external sd card. so if you're planning on installing games on your external microsd card, you're going to have to root it and install the fix sd card fix so that you can install apps on the sd card. The external sd card can still be used for video files and music but apps can't be installed to it unless you have the fix installed. If that's not something that bothers you, then I would leave it unrooted. If thats absolutely something you need or want, rooting is the only thing you can do to get that feature back right now.
i just bought a tmobile note 4 and i just rooted it i wanted to know which custom rom is besti used cm 12 but didnt like it, any suggestions???
Hello,
There is a CyanogenMod 12 Unofficial for your phone, which I personally really love. It depends on your taste, but for me the CM is the way to go.
But there may be even more roms I guess.. Search for them
He who is searching will find
God bless you
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Aaannnddd... This thread is in a very wrong place. But good luck!
I've personally tried CM12, FireKat, and Dynamic Kat... I like all 3, but am staying on Dynamic Kat for now b/c it has a really great balance of features vs. speed. I had the best battery with FireKat, and it worked fastest for me, with AnTuTu benchmarks over 50,000 (actual day-to-day performance difference between the two roms is not really noticeable though). Both FK & DK are based on touchwiz, so it'll keep S Pen stock features intact...if you use CM12, Liquid Smooth, or any other non-touchwiz based roms, you'll need to install an application or two (eg. CM S Pen Add-on, for cm12) for the rom to detect the S pen in/out. At the end of the day, though, I'd recommend trying all of the roms out for yourself. If you end up sticking to one & then change your mind later, just do a backup and flash again! haha you really can't go wrong with any of the ones posted on xda.
where you get firekat from i could only see dynamic kat
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