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SGS life after a Hard Reset

since i was unable to find the proper answer to fix the problem the easy way
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=793254
i had to go it the hard way
just went ahead and Wiped my phone.
it was less painful than i though it'll be, it was within the calculated parameters of the process involved to get your device up to speed in record time in a massive failure
so once the phone booted back into the OS, the very first thing i did was to setup APN
then sign in to my gmail account, BAM! got all my pictures, phones, contacts, calendars, etc, every thing back
then next task was to install AppsBrain, hit sync and BAM! i got my list of 400+ apps to install back
now i'm clicking through about 800 times install, okay, continue LOL :r
and i'm rather surprise Android Market, and the OS hasn't crapped out on me yet with the massive deluge of files action
it's install faster than i though... only 200+ apps to go
and about 15+ more email / IM accounts to join back into the system, and reconfiguring 400 apps
the Titanium Backup backed up files got wiped out in the process
at least i'm getting a good vibe out of this, it means the upgrade to Froyo will be just the same
the phone is HOT of all the 3.5G activity

the actual 3 button reboot to Recovery Mode + Wipe data and reboot back took less than a minute.
chances of missing a call during this time is quite low
SMS will be downloaded as soon as your phone goes back into OS, so chances of missing out on an important SMS is very unlikely

another interesting i noticed is that the File System is not choking up as it did before the Hard Reset.
before i couldn't get more than 4 apps downloading/installing concurrently in parallel
right now i'm doing around 10 at a time, and it doesn't slow down.
what gives?

AllGamer said:
another interesting i noticed is that the File System is not choking up as it did before the Hard Reset.
before i couldn't get more than 4 apps downloading/installing concurrently in parallel
right now i'm doing around 10 at a time, and it doesn't slow down.
what gives?
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Really? Maybe i should wipe my device to
Installing more than 3 apps at the same moment.... it´s just a pain...

exactly, normally when you try to download and install 4 apps simultaneously it gets sooooooo slow, worse than a snail
but for some odd reason right now that is not happening, it's smooth download and install, i wonder that's the difference

recommend you buy/install mybackup pro.. you can reinstall a bunch of apps without it prompting you for each one... i think if you pay for titanium backup it does the same..
i frequently copy the appmanager (diff app i use) and titanium backup directoryies from internal to external sd so i have have a backup in case of a full reset ..
i also set mybackup pro to backup directly to external sd.

yeah, that was my problem i forgot to move a copy of titanium backup from internal SD to external SD
otherwise i'd not have had to go thorugh 800+ clicks to say OK to everything
LOL

well... after aprox 250+ apps/games installed the phone is going back to its old self slooooooooow when you try to install 2 or more apps concurrently.
and the list of Manage Apps takes a while to load up
so it seems like the sweet spot is to keep less than 200 apps on the phone to keep it running silky smooth

Thanks for the report and the painless part, AllGamer.
May have to try it one of these days if I screw up.
After reading you post, I move the Titanium Backups to SDcard
just so I don't forget. Now have to remember to update it.
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I can't even imagine how you have 800 apps on your phone. I just counted and I have 21, and to me that is a lot, but perfect.

not 800 it's 400 but for each install you need 2 click
so that's 800 clicks

Can you do a write up on step by step how to wipe and reinstall the (JH2) ROM, kernal, modem etc for i9000M?

When applying the Bionix Rom or any other ROM, does your apps and data erase?

Ive recently rooted and now wanna take the plunge to greener pastures... When adding a ROM, will it erase my data and apps? Im assuming Google will take care of the contacts and calendars but will have to re-download apps? I have Titanium backup - I can should just move its backup folder to the external if anything? Please advise an eager and appreciative noob

JD76 said:
Ive recently rooted and now wanna take the plunge to greener pastures... When adding a ROM, will it erase my data and apps? Im assuming Google will take care of the contacts and calendars but will have to re-download apps? I have Titanium backup - I can should just move its backup folder to the external if anything? Please advise an eager and appreciative noob
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Yes, most of the time the /data partition is formated. What most of us do is use "Titanium Backup" from the market and back up all out apps before flashing. Then you flash your new rom and let it boot up. Log into the market again and re-install Titanium Backup. Once in TB you hit the menu key -> Batch. In there you should see a option to restore user apps and data.

I also use Titanium Backup and it saves me a LOT of headache. The only downside is sitting there hitting the install button (in my case) 200 times.

aloneinshadow said:
I also use Titanium Backup and it saves me a LOT of headache. The only downside is sitting there hitting the install button (in my case) 200 times.
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If you paid for full version, you wouldn't have to click the install button 200 times. I've tried so many roms/updates that at some point it became a no-brainer to pay for the full version and save myself the pain.

aloneinshadow said:
I also use Titanium Backup and it saves me a LOT of headache. The only downside is sitting there hitting the install button (in my case) 200 times.
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If you buy the donation version, it saves you alot of time. Best $4 I spent

Thanks guys.. what about a Nandroid backup.. can I restore from there?

If you buy the donation version, it saves you alot of time. Best $4 I spent
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I think its gone up tp $6. I'm cheap. :-D
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JD76 said:
Thanks guys.. what about a Nandroid backup.. can I restore from there?
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No. Nandroid backs up the whole ROM, restoring that would undo the ROM install you just did. Just get Titanium, it's the only way to fly.
And when restoring, particularly between ROMs, don't restore system data. It causes issues that are hard to diagnose sometimes. Other times it works fine, but IMO it's not worth it. If you are re-installing the exact same ROM version, it should be OK, but switching from stock to Bionix, for example, it will break things. Just do the user apps and data, it saves hassle.
If you don't like hitting the button constantly, stop being such a cheap bastard and pay up. It's saved me far more time than the $4 or so I spent on it. Even at $6 it's a bargain if you like to play with ROMs and such. And backup your backup, the internal SD can lose data. I just turned on the Dropbox sync and push the backups up there once in a while.

aloneinshadow said:
I think its gone up tp $6. I'm cheap. :-D
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If I remember they request 5.99 but if you click the drop down there is a 3.99 option that still gets you the license.

ttabbal said:
And when restoring, particularly between ROMs, don't restore system data. It causes issues that are hard to diagnose sometimes. Other times it works fine, but IMO it's not worth it. If you are re-installing the exact same ROM version, it should be OK, but switching from stock to Bionix, for example, it will break things. Just do the user apps and data, it saves hassle.
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im also thinking of going from stock to bionix but i want to be double safe more than i want to be sorry so i will ask you to repeat yourselves a bit with a little more detail. are you saying its ok to backup the white (User Apps) and green (System service with useful data) options from stock and restore them in bionix or will some of the green ones screw up bionix? i dont backup the red (System service) options. sorry for asking you to repeat yourselves but redundancy is a noobs best friend. i know im capable of flashing this rom but i want to iron out all the details before proceeding.

I back up system data and restore selectively, like memos and SMS, etc. Don't batch restore all system data, just the stuff that has content you need.
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ok thank you

Paying for titanium takes the sting out of the wipes that all the best roms do. Break it down to what your time is worth. Once you start flashing roms, you will keep doing it more and more and titanium will be your best friend. If they told me I had to pay a new ten dollars, I wouldn't hesitate.
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oh i already payed for TB. ive used it plenty just on the stock vibrant. its priceless in my opinion so $6 is nothing.

sirganon said:
im also thinking of going from stock to bionix but i want to be double safe more than i want to be sorry so i will ask you to repeat yourselves a bit with a little more detail. are you saying its ok to backup the white (User Apps) and green (System service with useful data) options from stock and restore them in bionix or will some of the green ones screw up bionix? i dont backup the red (System service) options. sorry for asking you to repeat yourselves but redundancy is a noobs best friend. i know im capable of flashing this rom but i want to iron out all the details before proceeding.
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there's a lot of stuff you don't need to back up. i only backup apps i've installed and their data (backup all user apps batch). this then requires me to reenter wifi info, resync contacts, and i lose all text messages, which none of those are a big deal to me and minimizes toying with titanium.

JD76 said:
Thanks guys.. what about a Nandroid backup.. can I restore from there?
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no, but it's recommended to do a nandroid backup before you flash your first rom and you only need to ever do it that once. titanium backup is what you want for backing up apps and stuff before flashing a rom.

Well thanks to you guys I now have bionix final on my phone. And I have the circular blue battery mod which in my opinion looks way better than the stock bionix battery. Easier to read too.
Thanks again, loving this rom

I just switched to the donate version so I could sync it with my dropbox account. I'm very glad I did. It's much easier for me to store things there and have my sd card freed up of some space.
Question though; does titanium backup game save data as well?
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I just tried to backup my fruit ninja & angry birds but it didnt save any of my data

After reading I could back up to Dropbox and batch reload, the $6 bucks for the Pro version of Titanium was a no brainer for me. While I get a certain amount of geeky satisfaction playing with the phone, hitting install repetitivly is not one.

For you flash-a-holics, what do you use to restore all your configs (not apps)? Ti?

Just about all the ROMs recommend a full wipe before flashing. It is easy enough to restore the apps with Titanium bacukp, but what about all the OS configs?
I know Ti can restore some of that, but ROM to ROM, it doesn't always work.
Is it simply a requirement to go back and configure all the default and ROM-based apps each time you flash? Examples: Turn off default messaging notification (using Handcent), screen timeout, screen brightness, check USB debug, ringtones, volume levels, GPS, text input, etc.
It is a pain because every time I flash, I have to restore apps/related settings, then go and reset all the other settings. Is there a better or easier way?

snovvman said:
Just about all the ROMs recommend a full wipe before flashing. It is easy enough to restore the apps with Titanium bacukp, but what about all the OS configs?
I know Ti can restore some of that, but ROM to ROM, it doesn't always work.
Is it simply a requirement to go back and configure all the default and ROM-based apps each time you flash? Examples: Turn off default messaging notification (using Handcent), screen timeout, screen brightness, check USB debug, ringtones, volume levels, GPS, text input, etc.
It is a pain because every time I flash, I have to restore apps/related settings, then go and reset all the other settings. Is there a better or easier way?
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perhaps this will help... I've never used titanium, but I have heard that Titanium backup helps the most. just restore apps and app data
also, it seems there is an app called SMS Backup or something that backs up SMS to gmail?

titanium has always wreaked havoc on my phone every time tried it. I use MyBackup pro, it save apps plus data(the app will be in the exact state when you restore it), also all the system settings and all. Clean and easy UI, there's a 30 day trial, try it out.

bjmingle said:
perhaps this will help... I've never used titanium, but I have heard that Titanium backup helps the most. just restore apps and app data
also, it seems there is an app called SMS Backup or something that backs up SMS to gmail?
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I use Ti-Backup, it works well and backs up almost everything. With it, you don't need a seperate SMS backup, unless you want to archive SMS for other purposes.
My real issue are with the system and ROM-based app settings. They don't always transfer over properly. With all the people flashing all the time, I was just wondering if there is a shortcut I don't know about.

phatmanxxl said:
titanium has always wreaked havoc on my phone every time tried it. I use MyBackup pro, it save apps plus data, also all the system settings and all. Clean and easy UI, there's a 30 day trial, try it out.
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I have MyBackup Pro, used it when I wasn't rooted. Then switched over to Ti. With Ti, so long as you don't restore everything (system/ROM stuff from the previous phone/ROM), things work fine.
My issue with MyBackup Pro was that it didn't give me the granular control and didn't backup settings for every application.
Do you have any problems going from one ROM to another using MyBackup Pro?

I also use my back up pro. Great app does it all.

snovvman said:
I have MyBackup Pro, used it when I wasn't rooted. Then switched over to Ti. With Ti, so long as you don't restore everything (system/ROM stuff from the previous phone/ROM), things work fine.
My issue with MyBackup Pro was that it didn't give me the granular control and didn't backup settings for every application.
Do you have any problems going from one ROM to another using MyBackup Pro?
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I only had a problem once, I had something going wrong with my ROM lagging real bad and sd errors, I did a backup using MBP,
I wipeed and reflashed, ran the restore and the data was corrupt. I had an older backup on my pc and I put that folder on my sd and everything loaded fine.
Besides that I never had any problems with that app. Like I said simple, clean, reliable.

phatmanxxl said:
titanium has always wreaked havoc on my phone every time tried it. I use MyBackup pro, it save apps plus data(the app will be in the exact state when you restore it), also all the system settings and all. Clean and easy UI, there's a 30 day trial, try it out.
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No here Ti backup has always worked like a champ for me but I only use the app backup feature. I don't really care about have text backed up.

built in backup is worthless

8 days after i got my HTC One, the software broke on the phone... Lockscreen stopped working.
So 12 days after i got i (today) - i decided to Factory Restore the phone.
I made sure that everything on the phone is synced and backed up, using ALL the built in backup/sync options...
2 hours later i deeply regret my decision ... or... let's say i'm much wiser now...
- All Text messages are gone
- All Pictures are gone
- All music is gone
- All app settings are gone
- All contacts are more or less reset to sqare-1
But luckily... The phone remembered the placement of Widgets, Icons, Shortcuts and mostly what apps i had installed... how great...
I don't understand how you Android people can live with this ??

There's alot of 3rd party apps to backup your phone. And personally I really don't use these backups at all in fact nobody can even force me to use it. I just feel uncomfortable putting all my messages, contacts, pictures and whatever stuff to some nobody knows what cloud service they use
And ohh by the way I use android tuner and my computer for my backup needs.

Riyal said:
There's alot of 3rd party apps to backup your phone. And personally I really don't use these backups at all in fact nobody can even force me to use it. I just feel uncomfortable putting all my messages, contacts, pictures and whatever stuff to some nobody knows what cloud service they use
And ohh by the way I use android tuner and my computer for my backup needs.
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I installed "Sandisk Memory Zone" which is able to backup 'SOME' of my data to Skydrive, Dropbox and 8 other online services as well as SD-cards.. I did backup some of my stuff using that service... but not all
Yea - when talking to Droid people, they like to setup their own backup plan...
what i dont understand is why they want that ??
With iPhone i synced with iTunes and ALL setting.. i literally mean ALL SETTINGS... was backed up..
If i lost my iPhone, i plugged a new one into iTunes and 1 hour later im off as if nothing happened... i would love to have such a solution with my HTC One...

Montago said:
8 days after i got my HTC One, the software broke on the phone... Lockscreen stopped working.
So 12 days after i got i (today) - i decided to Factory Restore the phone.
I made sure that everything on the phone is synced and backed up, using ALL the built in backup/sync options...
2 hours later i deeply regret my decision ... or... let's say i'm much wiser now...
- All Text messages are gone
- All Pictures are gone
- All music is gone
- All app settings are gone
- All contacts are more or less reset to sqare-1
But luckily... The phone remembered the placement of Widgets, Icons, Shortcuts and mostly what apps i had installed... how great...
I don't understand how you Android people can live with this ??
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We live with this by reading up on what the backup will backup. You got a new phone and new apps and you didn't bother finding out what they do? I went to HTC's website and found out exactly what it did, and acted accordingly when I used the backup feature. Never lost a single image.

There are plenty of solutions for full and reliable backup on Android phone. If you are rooted, then go for Titanium Backup or MyBackup, really straight forward, no need for PC.
If you are not rooted then go for Helium (formerly known as Carbon). You need the app installed on PC/Mac as well.
If you just want to backup your messages/call logs, go for SMS Backup and Restore; and CallLog Backup and Restore, no need for root.
You do not need to backup your contacts if you are using Google account, you can setup your phone contacts to your Google account.
As for the pictures, Dropbox or Google+ have automatic upload for them.
For audio files, there are even apps which can sync with iTunes.

ArmedandDangerous said:
We live with this by reading up on what the backup will backup. You got a new phone and new apps and you didn't bother finding out what they do? I went to HTC's website and found out exactly what it did, and acted accordingly when I used the backup feature. Never lost a single image.
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As an IT professional i have no problems doing all that - i just thought i didn't have to... maybe i'm spoiled by Apple / IOS / iTunes...
but what about Mr and Mrs Noobster ... or even the random Joe who got an Android because he dislikes Apple for whatever reason... those people loose everything eventhough their phone says to them that everything is backed up...

Montago said:
As an IT professional i have no problems doing all that - i just thought i didn't have to... maybe i'm spoiled by Apple / IOS / iTunes...
but what about Mr and Mrs Noobster ... or even the random Joe who got an Android because he dislikes Apple for whatever reason... those people loose everything eventhough their phone says to them that everything is backed up...
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Actually the backup and reset feature specifically says "Back up app data, Wi-Fi passwords, and other settings to Google servers", and if you select HTC Account it says "Back up settings, accounts & passwords, bookmarks and apps daily over Wi-Fi".
This is a HTC feature, not an "Android" feature. Apple owns every phone they produce, and thus they can have a unified architecture for their apps and media/backup functions. I'm not defending HTC, or Android. God knows we need a standard backup service that basically copies our whole phone.

encho said:
There are plenty of solutions for full and reliable backup on Android phone. If you are rooted, then go for Titanium Backup or MyBackup, really straight forward, no need for PC.
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will check em out. thanks !
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If you are not rooted then go for Helium (formerly known as Carbon). You need the app installed on PC/Mac as well.
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nice - but seems like it doesn't backup everything
encho said:
If you just want to backup your messages/call logs, go for SMS Backup and Restore; and CallLog Backup and Restore, no need for root.
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Yeah - seems like i need a 7th program to backup my SMS/Call logs ... jebus !
encho said:
You do not need to backup your contacts if you are using Google account, you can setup your phone contacts to your Google account.
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Apparently i do... i DID sync my contacts with Google - but i lost some !?!?
encho said:
As for the pictures, Dropbox or Google+ have automatic upload for them.
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Yes -- BUT they don't exactly sync BACK to the phone... they just get uploaded to Dropbox / Google+ where they are kind of 'useless'...
HTC One with Sense5 has features like ZOE - and all my data for creating Zoe's are now gone -- or maybe i can transfer my pictures/albums BACK to my One ??
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For audio files, there are even apps which can sync with iTunes.
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HTC Sync is able to sync FROM itunes to the One ... but doesn't remember my sync options like iTunes... meaning i have to re-do everything manually
Sandisk Memory Zone is able to sync my music to the cloud - but i don't know if it also restore my playlists and stuff like that
all in all i'm not that impressed with Android so far

Those were just the options you have, you don't actually need to use "7th app" for anything. I just showed that if you need to backup ONLY sms/calls that you can do that. Titanium Backup for example can backup everything except the files. For files I suggest you use FolderSync which can backup to any cloud out there, including your own ftp/dav/s3/samba folder.
Or you can go back to iPhone and regret it

The lockscreen stops functioning correctly if you turn on an accessibility option in settings. Example would be turning on the Pebble smartwatch accessibility feature.

mjm128 said:
The lockscreen stops functioning correctly if you turn on an accessibility option in settings. Example would be turning on the Pebble smartwatch accessibility feature.
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this is what happened...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2291734
do you think its caused by accessibility ?

This is bad
On my sgs3 with samsung account I can backup phone logs, memos, messages, calendar, bookmarks. I use Spotify so my music/playlists are always there no matter what device I'm using.
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If you are rooted, I'm surprised no one mentioned Rom Toolbox Pro. Backs up apps and data to internal or external storage, dropbox, box, etc...
More importantly provides a very complete tool set for installing roms, themes, and a host of other utilities to numerous to mention. Anyway, I'm not affiliated in any way, just have been using it for a long time and don't even bother with TiBackup or Rom Manager stuff anymore. Usually this is the first app I load after fresh installs to bring all my apps back.

Either your phone has software defect or you couldn't managed to use it properly. I backed up everything and quite easily.

Also remember to transfer your back ups made titanium back up or my back up pro to dropbox or your computer because when you perform a factory reset I believe it formats your internal sdcard also. So your back up is gone, too.

You shouldnt ever click the button that specifically says that it will delete the entire memory. You only need to do the normal factory reset. Backup your messages to the external storage using the built in backup in messaging and you would have been good.
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The built in backup leaves out a few things. I decided to try it on my last everyday romswap, and most things got back, but without settings, passwords and so on. Imo pretty useless.
Go for helium backup or titanium instead. If they fix it, perfect, exactly what I need
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What I don't understand is since the introduction of ICS, Android has a built-in backup function accessible via ADB commands even without having to root your phone. This (as far as I'm aware) is available to ALL Android devices running 4.0 ICS or later. Why then are OEM's not including a backup function with their desktop software? If developers here on XDA can create small executable files to run a backup on our devices, then surely it can't be that difficult to integrate a similar function into something like HTC Sync??
With regards HTC Backup one the One, I haven't tried that as I used Helium backup when I reset my phone. Works perfectly even without root.
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altimax98 said:
You shouldnt ever click the button that specifically says that it will delete the entire memory. You only need to do the normal factory reset. Backup your messages to the external storage using the built in backup in messaging and you would have been good.
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Well.. the scenario is: my phone is destroyed, stolen or lost in the ocean... Question is: WHAT exactly did i loose ?
apparently, using "backup" on the phone, only saves me a list of programs that i downloaded - all userdata is gone !!!!!!
Dharkan said:
Either your phone has software defect or you couldn't managed to use it properly. I backed up everything and quite easily.
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good for you - now tell us your secret ?!
did you use a 3rd party backup program ?
was rooting necessary ?
did you use more than one program ?
apparently backup / sync is not implemented out of the box on Android...
BTW... YES... i'm new to Android so i'm 100% sure i'm doing things wrong

Montago said:
Well.. the scenario is: my phone is destroyed, stolen or lost in the ocean... Question is: WHAT exactly did i loose ?
apparently, using "backup" on the phone, only saves me a list of programs that i downloaded - all userdata is gone !!!!!!
good for you - now tell us your secret ?!
did you use a 3rd party backup program ?
was rooting necessary ?
did you use more than one program ?
apparently backup / sync is not implemented out of the box on Android...
BTW... YES... i'm new to Android so i'm 100% sure i'm doing things wrong
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Here's what I did basically. I used the built-in SMS backup feature, manually forced a whatsapp backup (only the automatic 4am backup is saved on SD, unless you force a backup) and backed up my contacts with Go Contacts (I just don't know how Google Contacts work, just wasn't ever that reliable to me). With these 3 done, I did the Backup & Reset thing. Then I copied my whole SD to my hard drive. Done

How do you start Tap&Go after initial setup?

Initial setup did not pop up with v20. I wanna do Tap&Go because I have over 200+ apps from previous phone. Searched night and day and can't find the damn way. Anyone know?

larciel said:
Initial setup did not pop up with v20. I wanna do Tap&Go because I have over 200+ apps from previous phone. Searched night and day and can't find the damn way. Anyone know?
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Go to Play store and download the LG Backup (sender) to your current phone(old device)
Open the app, select how to transfer (probably wirelessly) on the V20 go to LG Backup - receive data and then hit start on the old device.

Is LG Backup preferred over Helium for non-rooted phones? I have never done this, go from a non-rooted Note7 to a non-rooted V20 (likely my plan next week).
I need to know what the best course of action is for doing this, Tap&Go, Helium, or LG Backup. I want as little setup to be required on the new device when I get rid of my Note7....
I feel like this should have been perfected by now considering whenever my girlfriend gets a new iPhone, she has all her apps and app data transfer over without hesitation, all the way down to whatever level she was on in Candy Crush (ugh) without using any type of login to the game itself to know that via cloud backup or other. I've never used Helium before but I started using it last night for backup and it appears it might go smoothly, I just don't know about restoring just yet.

My V20 is supposed to be delivered today. My plan is to use the LG Backup to transfer apps, then Helium to transfer most of the app data. There are some app that Helium can't backup but most of them just needs a login/password to get back up and running.
edit: batch restoring with Helium is usually not as smooth as the backup part. I normally would get random errors that Helium has stopped during restore. But when you open Helium again after the error, you can see which apps restored and which apps didn't so you can manually restore individual ones.

I just used LG backup. So far everything looks good. I did take a Helium backup of the app data in case I find something missing.

nicholb said:
I just used LG backup. So far everything looks good. I did take a Helium backup of the app data in case I find something missing.
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does the LG software transfer other stuff like samsung smartswitch does, including stuff like wifi settings, sms, photos, files/folders, etc?

maximus96 said:
does the LG software transfer other stuff like samsung smartswitch does, including stuff like wifi settings, sms, photos, files/folders, etc?
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It looked to me to be about the same as smartswitch, but I have not yet really dug into what it copied. I know for sure it copied apps, photos, and SMS. It spent quite awhile copying "personal data" which I am assuming is app data.

nicholb said:
It looked to me to be about the same as smartswitch, but I have not yet really dug into what it copied. I know for sure it copied apps, photos, and SMS. It spent quite awhile copying "personal data" which I am assuming is app data.
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I read that it does not copy app data. Personal data is probably stuff you put in the internal storage.

maximus96 said:
I read that it does not copy app data. Personal data is probably stuff you put in the internal storage.
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The amount it copied under that was 4gb after zipping. That is a lot more than my files. Particularly since all my photos and videos were on the SD which I had physically moved to the V20 before running LG Backup. That is why I am thinking there had to be some app data in that.

nicholb said:
The amount it copied under that was 4gb after zipping. That is a lot more than my files. Particularly since all my photos and videos were on the SD which I had physically moved to the V20 before running LG Backup. That is why I am thinking there had to be some app data in that.
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Good to know, thanks.

LG backup is so slow and error-prone because data transfer size is so big. It zip files and send over BT(?)
so helium backup is good one?

KryptosXLayer2 said:
Is LG Backup preferred over Helium for non-rooted phones? I have never done this, go from a non-rooted Note7 to a non-rooted V20 (likely my plan next week).
I need to know what the best course of action is for doing this, Tap&Go, Helium, or LG Backup. I want as little setup to be required on the new device when I get rid of my Note7....
I feel like this should have been perfected by now considering whenever my girlfriend gets a new iPhone, she has all her apps and app data transfer over without hesitation, all the way down to whatever level she was on in Candy Crush (ugh) without using any type of login to the game itself to know that via cloud backup or other. I've never used Helium before but I started using it last night for backup and it appears it might go smoothly, I just don't know about restoring just yet.
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You are right. Much easier on an iPhone to transfer to a new iPhone. Android sucks when getting a new phone although Google tried to make it a little easier in the Pixel.