Hello All,
Can you answer my few queries. The camera of the phone is said to record 4k video and 1080 videos @60fps but the phone is only capable of recording 1080p @30fps. Since the note 3 with same specs can record 4k videos is it possible via software upgrade or something like that to make our camera record 4k videos.
Can Kernel source itself is enough as the base for custom rom development.??
GTARaja said:
Hello All,
Can you answer my few queries. The camera of the phone is said to record 4k video and 1080 videos @60fps but the phone is only capable of recording 1080p @30fps. Since the note 3 with same specs can record 4k videos is it possible via software upgrade or something like that to make our camera record 4k videos.
Can Kernel source itself is enough as the base for custom rom development.??
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The camera makers said that the camera is capable of capturing 4K videos but the Elife e7 cannot capture because the company hasn't provided that matching software which does it. May be that is for the future updates or flagship devices. The max you can record is 1080p at 60fps.
chetanbhawani said:
The camera makers said that the camera is capable of capturing 4K videos but the Elife e7 cannot capture because the company hasn't provided that matching software which does it. May be that is for the future updates or flagship devices. The max you can record is 1080p at 60fps.
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what do u mean by matching software it has got all the libs required foolish gionee ppl and provided libs for several omnivision sensor libs to our device..how can u record 1080p @ 60fps its 30fps only...4k is not possible till now as it uses the android camera api which has maximum of 1080p recording capabilities note3 and xperia z2 have their own api for this so they can record 4k videos
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Hi everyone
Does the 4K vidéo recording and other camera features of the Z2 will be carry on Z1 ?
thanks a lot
nightbringer87 said:
Hi everyone
Does the 4K vidéo recording and other camera features of the Z2 will be carry on Z1 ?
thanks a lot
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It's a hardware feature,
4K means 2160p or 4K pixels.
Z1 only records in 1080p and its maximum pixel for recording in its lens is 1080p, so 4k in Z1 is impossible.
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f_u_006 said:
It's a hardware feature,
4K means 2160p or 4K pixels.
Z1 only records in 1080p and its maximum pixel for recording in its lens is 1080p, so 4k in Z1 is impossible.
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But it's exactly the same hardware with the same camera and the S800 of the Z1 is able to record 4k ... that's why i ask about it
f_u_006 said:
But some changes are made and the Video recording lens is replaced!
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That's only a software issue and i think that Sony can introduce 4k in Z1 ...
Dudes look at this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=50673925
That makes no sense that we are capped at 1080p. If the camera can take 20mp images that the lens and hardest are there to capture it. The hardware to push it to memory fast enough is a different story.
For reference http://web.forret.com/tools/megapixel.asp?width=14384&height=14384
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According to Qualcomm, the new 801, not sure which 801 variant, has h.265 support built in, HEVC
http://www.qualcomm.com/snapdragon/processors/801
This is missing in the Z1, and therefore any official support for 4k video from sony will probably not occur, unless they decide to use h.264 for 4k, but then files will be rather large. If the 4k on the Z2 is dependent on h.265 support I am not sure how easy it can be ported over to the Z1. Yes the S800 does have ultraHD support for playback and capture, so perhaps 4k capture will be ported over or even possibly added by Sony, but I wouldn't hold out on the latter.
ascariss said:
According to Qualcomm, the new 801, not sure which 801 variant, has h.265 support built in, HEVC
http://www.qualcomm.com/snapdragon/processors/801
This is missing in the Z1, and therefore any official support for 4k video from sony will probably not occur, unless they decide to use h.264 for 4k, but then files will be rather large. If the 4k on the Z2 is dependent on h.265 support I am not sure how easy it can be ported over to the Z1. Yes the S800 does have ultraHD support for playback and capture, so perhaps 4k capture will be ported over or even possibly added by Sony, but I wouldn't hold out on the latter.
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z2 does not suport h.265 encoding according to sony white paper: http://dl-developer.sonymobile.com/documentation/whitepapers/Xperia_Z2_D6502_D6503_D6543_WP_1.pdf
its exactly like z1 and z1 compact:
http://dl-developer.sonymobile.com/documentation/whitepapers/Xperia_Z1_Compact_D5503_WP_4.pdf
so this shouldnt be a problem
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f_u_006 said:
It's a hardware feature,
4K means 2160p or 4K pixels.
Z1 only records in 1080p and its maximum pixel for recording in its lens is 1080p, so 4k in Z1 is impossible.
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dude do you realise the amount of trash you just said?
first - z1 camera sensor and lens are the same as z2
second - according to your logic the lens cant capture more than 1080p videos (2mp), but it can take 20.7mp pictures. how is that possible haha
@OP: the only diferences are the S801 clocks that are a little bit higher than s800, and 1GB of extra ram that z2 have. but i dont think this should be a problem, since any S800 chipset has the ability to do 4k recording and GS5 and Liquid S2 have 2GB of RAM and also record 4K 30fps (it doesnt suport video stabilization though)
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z2 does not suport h.265 encoding according to sony white paper: http://dl-developer.sonymobile.com/documentation/whitepapers/Xperia_Z2_D6502_D6503_D6543_WP_1.pdf
its exactly like z1 and z1 compact:
http://dl-developer.sonymobile.com/documentation/whitepapers/Xperia_Z1_Compact_D5503_WP_4.pdf
so this shouldnt be a problem
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dude do you realise the amount of trash you just said?
first - z1 camera sensor and lens are the same as z2
second - according to your logic the lens cant capture more than 1080p videos (2mp), but it can take 20.7mp pictures. how is that possible haha
@OP: the only diferences are the S801 clocks that are a little bit higher than s800, and 1GB of extra ram that z2 have. but i dont think this should be a problem, since any S800 chipset has the ability to do 4k recording and GS5 and Liquid S2 have 2GB of RAM and also record 4K 30fps (it doesnt suport video stabilization though)
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that's a shame, why would sony opt for h.264 4k encoding when the 801 has native support for h.265?
4K is useless on a smartphone with little lens
It pumps up the resolution but the quality remains substantially the same
It could be introduced via software and currently the only real benefit would be to fit better on a 4K display without upscaling processing
The problem is the potential lag because the hardware (CPU, GPU, less RAM), but it should be ok (the differences are minimal)
I'd like to see implemented timeshift video on Z1
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that's a shame, why would sony opt for h.264 4k encoding when the 801 has native support for h.265?
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actually, the s801 and s801 only differ in terms of clock speeds. only S805 has h.265 hardware decoder and i am not sure if it even has a hardware encoder
Please use the existing thread HERE...
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I just read the x compact review on gsmarena and it says:
There is no 4K video recording - it's reserved for the high-end Xperia XZ. Just like on the other X's, it's not a chipset limitation - the S650 is fully capable in this respect - it most probably was a marketing decision.
Does that mean that theoretically it's possible to record 4k videos IF a developer looks into it and, let's say, ports the XZ camera? Basically, is it a software or hardware limitation?
charliebigpot said:
I just read the x compact review on gsmarena and it says:
There is no 4K video recording - it's reserved for the high-end Xperia XZ. Just like on the other X's, it's not a chipset limitation - the S650 is fully capable in this respect - it most probably was a marketing decision.
Does that mean that theoretically it's possible to record 4k videos IF a developer looks into it and, let's say, ports the XZ camera? Basically, is it a software or hardware limitation?
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well if you search this about xperia X there are some possible ways to enable 4k recording and also many have reported that other third party camera apps have the 4k option in video settings and its only disabled in stock sony camera app
but the problem is that the phone temperature might not allow us to record 4k and might damage the phone as Xperia X reportedly had issues even on 1080p recording!
in LineageOS 7.1.2, when I use OpenCamera with the Camera2 API. It gives me the option to use 3840x2160 as the video resolution. But when I try to record anything, it says "Serious Camera Error"
So is it possible to record 4K?
Because the ISP (Image Signal Processor) can't encode at 4K due to hardware limitations, following the ISP specification the max resolution that the Snapdragon 617's ISP can record is at 1080p at 60 fps
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Because the ISP (Image Signal Processor) can't encode at 4K due to hardware limitations, following the ISP specification the max resolution that the Snapdragon 617's ISP can record is at 1080p at 60 fps
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Ah, Its's good that at least 1080p 60FPS is possible.
I do have one more question though. Why is the Camera2 API so buggy with this chipset? Most of the photos I take with OpenCamera with the Camera2 API enabled is mostly just solid green or sometimes the actual photo. Then after at least 1 minute and 30 seconds the entire phone stutters and just crashes the camera.
sambow23 said:
in LineageOS 7.1.2, when I use OpenCamera with the Camera2 API. It gives me the option to use 3840x2160 as the video resolution. But when I try to record anything, it says "Serious Camera Error"
So is it possible to record 4K?
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which rom was that on the image ? can you please tell me ?
siddhesh9146 said:
which rom was that on the image ? can you please tell me ?
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"Slim 7" I believe
Hi everyone,
I have switched to XA1 and disappointed it can't record 4K movies. Recently played with Open Camera (Mark Harman) available in Play and this app successfully records 4K clips in full ISO range up to 3200. You need to activate Camera2 API in settings and then movies resolution to 4K.
Max framerate is 24, but looks like image stabilization works in 4K!
cheers
Hey, what is the shutter speed range in open camera?
Camera API2
Haow to activate camera api2 in xperia xa1
Would like to know that too. Open Camera doesn't seem to have option like that, so I understand Root and modding build.prop ("persist.camera.HAL3.enabled=1"?
Xperia XA1 seems to support footage in 4k.
I have used this app, and have been filming in 4k, apparently.
Test to see yourself if it really is what we need to shoot in 4k.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.frozenvolcano.android.cinema4k
Hi there.
I tried multiple of apps which allow to use camera2api ut none of them record videos in 24fps. I came to conclusion that this must be locked by Oneplus (dont be evil). Am I right? How can i unlock 24fps in my oneplus so that the apps can use it? Any magisk module?
I use Cinema 4k and it seems to record at 24, 25 and 30fps without root. Take a look and let me know!
manciu said:
I use Cinema 4k and it seems to record at 24, 25 and 30fps without root. Take a look and let me know!
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Thanks for response.
I have tried this app and yes in 4k it records 24fps but when i want to record in 1080p in 24fps it records in 120fps(!) There is also no stabilisation
I was about to mention Open Camera's ability to record 4K at 24fps or maybe 1080p at 24fps. I remember doing so on my OnePlus 3 successfully. But it seems that OnePlus truly went evil by locking out 24/25fps with the 6T.
You can record either in 15fps, or in 30fps. No in-between