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Backup Desire, every bit of it?

Excuse me if this has been covered before, but is there a way to backup the device in a way, that if i root it, and then flash some ROM to it, and i mess up or just want to go back to my previous state?
I read something about nandroid? But in order for me to do that, i need root. Correct? so, what if i want to "unroot" my device? and is nandroid suitable for the Desire?

What does nandroid actually do? Does it back up everything?

nandroid makes images of all of the disk, so it's a full backup, but it's having issues restoring those backups to the Desire at the moment. And yes, you'll need to at least get to the recovery menu to run nandroid for now.
The only other route of which I know is just backing up apps and data, and you can use Titanium Backup for that (or MyBackup, I think). Without root, when you restore the apps, you won't be able to tell the Market you have these things installed, though. Doing that still requires you to fully reflash and do some setup, though. I don't think there's a cut-and-dry backup and full restore method at the moment. If there is, I'd certainly be interested...

I am also in the hunt for a good backup application. Dont mind paying as long as work as it should. But i dont think there is any backup application that can backup applications (most of them maybe just supported some limited apps).

kuailan said:
I am also in the hunt for a good backup application. Dont mind paying as long as work as it should. But i dont think there is any backup application that can backup applications (most of them maybe just supported some limited apps).
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Titanium Backup will back up everything that's on your phone except for apps installed by the system (and those it'll try and backup if you're rooted). It's worked flawlessly for me.

The Professor said:
Titanium Backup will back up everything that's on your phone except for apps installed by the system (and those it'll try and backup if you're rooted). It's worked flawlessly for me.
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I am trying Titanium now at the moment....just wondering I have seen a lot of application backup options/lists?? but where is the options to backup SMS, contacts, etc?? I find the UI is a little complex.

So is the best way of doing it.. Backup.. Copy folder to pc...
Then when i wanna restore.. Install titanium. copy license and folder back?

kuailan said:
I am trying Titanium now at the moment....just wondering I have seen a lot of application backup options/lists?? but where is the options to backup SMS, contacts, etc?? I find the UI is a little complex.
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Titanium backup only does apps.
Personally I use MyBackup, it backs up settings, sms, calender, home screens, settings e.t.c. as well as apps and keeps market links intact.
Well worth the money.

Ive got both now lol! have to wait till i install a new rom.. ill try mybackup first then

abc27 said:
Titanium backup only does apps.
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Oh, RLY?
Official Titanium Backup site says otherwise.
http://www.matrixrewriter.com/android/
Features of the Free version:
No time limit
Very fast app listing (~1 second for 300 apps)
Sort apps by name / last backup / backup frequency
Filter apps by name / type / status / Apps Organizer labels (also affects Batch operations)
Backup/restore regular apps + their settings
Backup/restore protected apps + their settings
Backup/restore system settings (incl. Wi-Fi AP list)
Restores the Market links when restoring apps
Zero-click background batch backup
Interactive batch restore
Many batch scenarios (eg: if more than N days since last backup, etc)
Zero-click app un-installer
Zero-click system app un-installer
Desktop widgets
Additional features of the Donate version:
Branding to your name
Multiple backups per app (history length can be chosen)
Zero-click background batch restore
Batch verification of all backups
Ultra fast HyperShell (much faster for almost everything)
Market Doctor can remake any broken Market links (only for apps that were backed up with the link in place)
App freezer can disable an app (and make it invisible) without un-installing it
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I just moved from one ROM to another smoothly with Titanium. I recommend it.

How to Backup you Desire before rooting it ?
Titanium requires Rooted phone ......
other Appli ?

You can try Sprite Backup but no application will work that well without root, sorry.

Is anybody test Sprite Backup?
I think MyBackup Pro and Titanium are similar when you have the system app active.

Hi
barring rooting the device and doing a nand backup/restore, I have used Sprite Backup in the past on my diamond (XDAndroid) successfully and it u could also use the application backup/restore with Astro (from the marketplace) and for txt msgs use sms backup -
http://github.com/jberkel/android-sms/tree/restore_backups - Backup/restore to gmail account

[Q] Help...!!!!!!!!!!!

I was thinking to install your rom and i was on STOCK FROYA 2.2(DDJP2) so can i install it directly and if i do so will i loose the installed apps that i have now cuz i had some nice apps which i din't want to be gone so asking....................like GoChat as if this app goes off then i'll loose all my stored settings that can't be recovered.............
Thank you And all the help appreciated

riyaz058 said:
I was thinking to install your rom and i was on STOCK FROYA 2.2(DDJP2) so can i install it directly and if i do so will i loose the installed apps that i have now cuz i had some nice apps which i din't want to be gone so asking....................like GoChat as if this app goes off then i'll loose all my stored settings that can't be recovered.............
Thank you And all the help appreciated
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Which Rom do you want to flash ..?
Regarding apps, root your phone using superoneclick and make a backup using titanium backup from market.. Once you flash the new Rom you can have all your apps and data as they were by restoring the backup..
Sent from the 3rd Galaxy !

using titanium backup should i have to backup my apps to sdcard

i wanted to give a try for Destiny 1.2 and using titanium backup will save the apps along with all its settings and after i backup then should i have to install each apks again or will titanium backup will recover it automatically

You can restore all the apps with a single click...
Sent from the 3rd Galaxy !

So by one click all apps will get installed automatically and the app settings will also be retained right...........................and any tutorial or links how to do the titanium backup will be of great help as Ive already rooted my phone

Yes
Its very easy..no need for a tutorial.. Open titanium backup-touch menu button-select batch..
Here You will find all the options you need..
Sent from the 3rd Galaxy !

Thank You buddy

You're welcome
Sent from the 3rd Galaxy !

[Q] Keeping apps when trying out ROMs?

I've been trying out a few ROMs, and have had problems retaining or restoring apps when moving to a new ROM or restoring an old one. I'm using ROM Manager Premium, and MyBackup Pro to backup/restore my apps.
The problems I've had are:
1. Moved from Virtuous G-Lite to MIUI, using ROM Manager to download and install MIUI, and selected the option to backup my existing ROM. Before doing so I also backed up all my apps and data using MyBackup Pro. When I installed MIUI and tried to restore my apps using MyBackup Pro most of the apps failed to restore, saying something like "no market data found" for each app.
2. Restored Virtuous G-Lite from recovery mode, using the backup taken above. Many of the apps were not correctly restored - their app icons were set to the Android Market icon, and when I tried to run them I got "could not launch the requested activity". These were typically non-core apps that I'd downloaded from the market.
When restoring apps using MyBackup Pro I've selected the option to restore apps only (not data), as I'd previously had problems with apps force closing if I restored apps and data.
Can anyone recommend a tried and tested way of restoring apps cleanly after switching ROMs?

itm said:
I've been trying out a few ROMs, and have had problems retaining or restoring apps when moving to a new ROM or restoring an old one. I'm using ROM Manager Premium, and MyBackup Pro to backup/restore my apps.
The problems I've had are:
1. Moved from Virtuous G-Lite to MIUI, using ROM Manager to download and install MIUI, and selected the option to backup my existing ROM. Before doing so I also backed up all my apps and data using MyBackup Pro. When I installed MIUI and tried to restore my apps using MyBackup Pro most of the apps failed to restore, saying something like "no market data found" for each app.
2. Restored Virtuous G-Lite from recovery mode, using the backup taken above. Many of the apps were not correctly restored - their app icons were set to the Android Market icon, and when I tried to run them I got "could not launch the requested activity". These were typically non-core apps that I'd downloaded from the market.
When restoring apps using MyBackup Pro I've selected the option to restore apps only (not data), as I'd previously had problems with apps force closing if I restored apps and data.
Can anyone recommend a tried and tested way of restoring apps cleanly after switching ROMs?
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Titanium backup is the best app of all. Also when you switched roms, did you do a full wipe on your phone? Because usually backup apps sometimes stores the backups on the phone data so when you wiped the phone is lost all data. Hope this helps
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When I downloaded MIUI using ROM Manager I chose all three options (including wiping the Dalvik cache) - is that what you mean by wiping the phone?
When I backup my apps using MyBackup Pro I always backup to SD card, so the data should not be lost when wiping.
The specific error that I get when trying to restore my apps is "Android market link was not found"
I don't understand why it's trying to contact Android market if it's trying to restore an already-installed app?

itm said:
When I downloaded MIUI using ROM Manager I chose all three options (including wiping the Dalvik cache) - is that what you mean by wiping the phone?
When I backup my apps using MyBackup Pro I always backup to SD card, so the data should not be lost when wiping.
The specific error that I get when trying to restore my apps is "Android market link was not found"
I don't understand why it's trying to contact Android market if it's trying to restore an already-installed app?
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try backing up with titanium backup. its be the best out there.

this is because you wiped your data from ROM manager and not from recovery
best thing to do when youre going to switch to a new ROM is to back up your apps (using either titanium backup or my backup) and then reboot into recovery and from there you factory reset, wipe cache, wipe dalvik cache and battery stats THEN u flash the new ROM
some either use the g2superwipe, or something like that
but doing it this way is the best so you dont have to mess with half ass wipes that cause trouble when u want to restore your apps

With titanium backup pro
Go to menu
More
Market doctor
That should fix broken market links
Also don't backup with Google if using tb
Under home
Settings
Privacy
Auto restore
Edit... Be advised that wiping battery stats just be done properly. Do your homework before you wipe battery stats

guyandhisdog said:
With titanium backup pro
Go to menu
More
Market doctor
That should fix broken market links
Also don't backup with Google if using tb
Under home
Settings
Privacy
Auto restore
Edit... Be advised that wiping battery stats just be done properly. Do your homework before you wipe battery stats
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Or he can just use titanum backup to backup his apps lol
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I used MIUI and it's My Backup feature but it wasn't as awesome as Titanium Backup. Titanium Backup backs up your app and its associated data. Then when you restore all your apps/data it links everything back to the market so you can receive updates through the market. ROM Manager and Titanium Backup are two must haves for any user who has rooted their Android device and is playing with ROMs.

The apps that wouldn't restore for me with the whole market link thing were "blackmarket" apps. With those making sure you have saved the apk on your cpu or something seems important. I have titanium pro and mybackup pro.
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Another vote for Titanium Backup.

steviewevie said:
Another vote for Titanium Backup.
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Same here. PRO key is worth the few $$.

And yet another vote for Titanium Backup--the pro key is worth the money, and I've personally found the app a lifesaver during "rom experimentation"

kusuriurikun said:
And yet another vote for Titanium Backup--the pro key is worth the money, and I've personally found the app a lifesaver during "rom experimentation"
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yeah, but the pro version, because with the free one you have to re-install all your apps manually. It takes time when you have 100+ apps

[WORKAROUND] Can't defrost frozen apps with titanium backup on KL7

Took me some time to find a solution, a lot of googling,
eventually I found this magic post
And I thought it deserves a better spotlight.
1. Copy /data/system/packages.xml to your PC. (or edit it somehow...)
2. Edit it, find the line with your app name that looks something like :
Code:
<package name="com.sec.android.app.samsungapps" codePath="/data/app/com.sec.android.app.samsungapps-1.apk" nativeLibraryPath="/data/data/com.sec.android.app.samsungapps/lib" flags="1" ft="134880eb380" it="11b7e237e00" ut="134880eb753" version="26114" userId="10039" enabled="false">
3. This line freezes samsung apps, which I wanted to desfrost to make S-Choice work. Change the false, to true > Save.
4. Copy the file back to the phone.
5. Contact titanium backup author and report this bug.
Reboot, Enjoy.
PS - I did not find the solution myself, I am just making a solution found by olympicchicken More readable and searchable.

I too have been having the problem with not being able to unfreeze system apps. What worked for me is to uninstall the frozen app from within Titanium BU (be sure to have a backup before uninstalling). Then just reboot and was able to restore the app through Titanium BU.
Don't know if it made any difference but I had done the app backup in Titanium before I froze it in the first place.

Mdpearo said:
I too have been having the problem with not being able to unfreeze system apps. What worked for me is to uninstall the frozen app from within Titanium BU (be sure to have a backup before uninstalling). Then just reboot and was able to restore the app through Titanium BU.
Don't know if it made any difference but I had done the app backup in Titanium before I froze it in the first place.
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I didn't backup any of the system apps I froze before freezing, hence if I would have deleted them, I would have been deleting the only apk copy i had of them.

Could somebody please check their /data/system/packages.xml for the line referencing "com.sec.android.app.controlpanel" (Task Manager) and post this entire line for me?
I've stupidly uninstalled it and TB can't restore it from backup as the line is missing.
Cheers.

eitama said:
I didn't backup any of the system apps I froze before freezing, hence if I would have deleted them, I would have been deleting the only apk copy i had of them.
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Even if you have an app frozen you can still select backup. Then uninstall the app, reboot, and restore the app.

Mdpearo said:
Even if you have an app frozen you can still select backup. Then uninstall the app, reboot, and restore the app.
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That didn't work as TB just hangs when trying to restore. I don't have a nandroid backup so if someone can post that line then I can at least fix it manually.

A simpler way to locate the particular line is by searching for "false" will keep showing all the frozen apps ) much faster too

I can confirm the uninstall and restore method worked for me..
I had frozen all three samsung app services(app, account, una) and I wanted to unfreeze them because of the free Dead Space and Modern Combat offers and I couldn't unfreeze them..
So as they were already frozen I made a back up of them, uninstalled them, reboot and restore them.. Worked like a charm..
Thanks guys.

I also try to contact the TITANIUM BACKUP developer informing about this bug... but not update avaible for the moment!

The file-edit method did not work for me. However, the uninstall/restore did. You have to convert system apps to user apps to backup them first, but it's quick and easy.

Possible solution
Hi guys,
Check out this test version of TB and try the "power defrost" feature in Batch menu. Hopefully it will help
http://matrixrewriter.com/tmp/TitaniumBackup_4.7.4-test1_r237_Market.apk

joel.bourquard said:
Hi guys,
Check out this test version of TB and try the "power defrost" feature in Batch menu. Hopefully it will help
http://matrixrewriter.com/tmp/TitaniumBackup_4.7.4-test1_r237_Market.apk
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Works fine, thx.

joel.bourquard said:
Hi guys,
Check out this test version of TB and try the "power defrost" feature in Batch menu. Hopefully it will help
http://matrixrewriter.com/tmp/TitaniumBackup_4.7.4-test1_r237_Market.apk
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hey, i also having same prob that i cannot unfreeze apps through either link2sd or tb.
is it the link is death? can resend the link again? thx lot

rshui said:
hey, i also having same prob that i cannot unfreeze apps through either link2sd or tb.
is it the link is death? can resend the link again? thx lot
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Hi,
This link is not needed anymore. The official version has it now

[Q] Backing up apps + data.

Hi everyone,
I know there is a lot of backup apps but I've not found one that physically backs up the app and then restores it (re-installs) after installing a new rom.
Can anyone suggest an app that will do this?

T89 said:
Hi everyone,
I know there is a lot of backup apps but I've not found one that physically backs up the app and then restores it (re-installs) after installing a new rom.
Can anyone suggest an app that will do this?
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You can use Titanium Backup for when you are rooted and Carbon for when you are not rooted or you do have root. Both are good but Carbon doesn`t require root.
Btw i would only backup user apps and data and no system apps.

I have titanium backup, but last time it didn't actually backup the installed apps only the data. Is that the case still? Or will I have to go ahead and re-download all the apps?

T89 said:
I have titanium backup, but last time it didn't actually backup the installed apps only the data. Is that the case still? Or will I have to go ahead and re-download all the apps?
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Usualy it also backs up user data as well as the apps. Maybe you chose the wrong backup option?

adb backup is always there, thats google own integrated backup agent inside your nexus. trigger it via shell or nexus toolkit.
i've tried carbon though and im blown away.

gee2012 said:
You can use Titanium Backup for when you are rooted and Carbon for when you are not rooted or you do have root. Both are good but Carbon doesn`t require root.
Btw i would only backup user apps and data and no system apps.
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why wouldn't you back up system apps?

Because they cause problems most of the time if you restore them on another rom or after upgrading a rom.
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