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Once rooted, even if running the stock ROM with su permissions, will I be able to even receive OTA updates (Froyo)? Or be solely responsible for flashing the firmware myself? Had a G1 before this but I ended up rooting it after all the updates to 1.6 had been sent out, so I'm unfamiliar how the world of rooting and OTA's collide. I would prefer to do as little modding as possible, even though my vibrant is much more of a high end phone than the G1, it got to a point where I was constantly flashing my phone with new mods and hacks and roms, and it got kind of frustrating having little things wrong here and there. I got my adfree so far, thats enough to make me happy for now.
joe.kerwin said:
Once rooted, even if running the stock ROM with su permissions, will I be able to even receive OTA updates (Froyo)? Or be solely responsible for flashing the firmware myself? Had a G1 before this but I ended up rooting it after all the updates to 1.6 had been sent out, so I'm unfamiliar how the world of rooting and OTA's collide. I would prefer to do as little modding as possible, even though my vibrant is much more of a high end phone than the G1, it got to a point where I was constantly flashing my phone with new mods and hacks and roms, and it got kind of frustrating having little things wrong here and there. I got my adfree so far, thats enough to make me happy for now.
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I'm sure right before the update becomes available you'll hear about it and you can always unroot ...
if you install the OTA, you will download the OTA (which is a NON ROOTED update) therefore making your phone get UNROOTED. now, you WANT do avoid installing the OTA's because they will unroot you, but since you aren't running a custom rom on your phone, you WILL get the OTA from t-mobile, you just have to force urself to DECLINE the install (if you want to keep root) you can update to the OTA release if you want to get rid of root, but if you wait a couple days, someone will have hacked a rooted version of the update.
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if you install the OTA, you will download the OTA (which is a NON ROOTED update) therefore making your phone get UNROOTED. now, you WANT do avoid installing the OTA's because they will unroot you, but since you aren't running a custom rom on your phone, you WILL get the OTA from t-mobile, you just have to force urself to DECLINE the install (if you want to keep root) you can update to the OTA release if you want to get rid of root, but if you wait a couple days, someone will have hacked a rooted version of the update.
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or you can just re-root...correct?
most of the time when an ota update comes out they patch the exploit used to root... this probably will not happen with the galaxy s series phones... 1)Samsung intends to sell 10 million of these phones... 2)It wasnt an exploit, it was left open to begin with
I'm not even sure if T-mobile cares. They allow their customers to post information about rooting their phones on their own forum.
I would post the link but I'm not allowed until my account has been verified.
oh lol, the way i worded my post was inferring that the new update would have "patched" the way to get root, but your responses make me think otherwise lol.
Better safe than sorry if Root is important to you. Wait for a guinea pig to update and verify if root is still an option or not.....
I was wondering the same thing too, but I have deleted most of the bloat ware that came with the brand. So after the ota and unroot, will these programs be reinstalled?
And if I did a factory reset would it restore the bloat ware and unroot the phone?
I got my adfree so far, thats enough to make me happy for now.[/QUOTE]
Is add free really that important? If you don't want a 3mm bar on your screen buy the app. I click the add every time I open an app that is free. If you don't then all the dev will make apple apps... Just kind of selfish if you where to ask me.
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Not like we're getting an update ever. =|
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bauerlucas said:
Just kind of selfish if you where to ask me.
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He didn't ask you.
disturkis4u said:
Not like we're getting an update ever. =|
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Looks like this is the case for the moment. Maybe we will see something soon though, but I still would like to know about my questions.
Charles Sloan said:
I was wondering the same thing too, but I have deleted most of the bloat ware that came with the brand. So after the ota and unroot, will these programs be reinstalled?
And if I did a factory reset would it restore the bloat ware and unroot the phone?
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Rather then making another thread about this, id just like to ask it here.
i know this has been asked about a million times, but i need to make in a million and one.
im rooted, clockwork recovery, mobile ap installed, and JAC kernel. I do not have any custom roms installed. Because of the custom kernel, im guessing that will keep me from receiving OTA?
That didn't take long.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=XOD4ML3F
Source:
http://www.droid-life.com/2010/07/27/root-and-unroot-your-droid-x-with-1-click/
Very cool thanks for the heads up.
Anyone tried this? Just curious im already rooted just maily would like it to unroot.
sent from LG Dare lol
It worked great for me, I rooted with it, tried a few root only apps...then I unrooted with it to see if it works, and it worked...then I rooted again so I can use those root only apps.
worked for me. painless, and quick. total time....less than 5 minutes.
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Really Works? The Rooted Apps too?
Does this really work and do the rooted apps function? Why does this work and the bootloader has not been cracked? Cunfused....
And now there's this too.
I cant seem to get this to work. I downloaded the file, went and clicked root me and it just sits there. How long does it normally take
If that's all you did, then you need to reread the instructions. I'm sure it clearly states to toggle Bluetooth or wifi. I don't want to burn anyone but in my opinion, if you can't follow instructions maybe you shouldn't be rooting your phone.
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will we still be able to use the one click method to root our phones after we have installed OTA update Froyo 2.2 from verizon in September. I have not rooted my X yet because the only thing i need it for is wifi tether and adblocker, i dont really need the custom ROMs. will i still be able to do this once my phone has received the update, if not will they develop a root for phones that have been updated via OTA
sorry for being such a noob thanks for your help
owenbeals said:
will we still be able to use the one click method to root our phones after we have installed OTA update Froyo 2.2 from verizon in September. I have not rooted my X yet because the only thing i need it for is wifi tether and adblocker, i dont really need the custom ROMs. will i still be able to do this once my phone has received the update, if not will they develop a root for phones that have been updated via OTA
sorry for being such a noob thanks for your help
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You cannot currently root a 2.2 device (unless you upgraded with that update.zip to 2.2 and moved SU), but I m sure that it will come sooner rather than later
universal androot
Im using universal androot and have my phone rooted, which i believe is the same thing as 1click root will i still get the ota in September with root on, I hope i have not posted in a inappropriate place I just was curious.
Bro, were did you get this universal androot?
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Bro, were did you get this universal androot?
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http://bit.ly/dbsWmj
I tried universal androot v1.6.1 and it was a no go, seemed soon after installing toolkit it kicked me out. I did the update.zip so i'm up to 2.2 now. Gonna try the droidx root in the first post see if that does it.
mavermc said:
I tried universal androot v1.6.1 and it was a no go, seemed soon after installing toolkit it kicked me out. I did the update.zip so i'm up to 2.2 now. Gonna try the droidx root in the first post see if that does it.
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theres no way to root a 2.2 device yet, u have to root in 2.1 first then move su around and then move it again once upgraded to 2.2
dr154 said:
theres no way to root a 2.2 device yet, u have to root in 2.1 first then move su around and then move it again once upgraded to 2.2
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this is incorrect. you can root your 2.2 Droid X with this method: http://www.droid-life.com/2010/08/26/droid2-rooting-method-works-for-droidx-running-froyo/
worked like a charm on first go for me.
My speaker on the back of my droidx is blown i need to take it to verizon. How do i get rid of superuser permissions app in app drawer? I rooted with universal androot. I was told you have to remove it first then unroot. So i looked for it in app manager to delete it but its not there. I tried unrooting it still not there. Rooted it back still not there. Thanks for ur help.
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Traded the DINC in for the DX and rooted in 2 minutes!!!!!! Kinda miss the DINC, well I miss HTC Sence
does this one click root work for the 2.2? and is there a chance that the fone will not root correctly and not work?
I was thinking about rooting my incredible and by skimming the forums i see that an update is preventing a few from re rooting or rooting in general but my actual question is when u guys are saying "new" update are you meaning the update that i received a day or so ago with the vcast app store or whatever it is included in the 17mb file...is this the update u guys are talking about or is it like a software update that i must not have recieved yet? Thx!
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The latest OTA (with VCast Apps, etc) is not working with Unrevoked/ClockworkMod. I don't know if you could still root manually. Hopefully someone else will chime in. I am rooted with Unrevoked and the last OTA did not work for me. I don't think I want it enough to go back and flash the stock recovery to get it.
Hi All, I just got my Nexus one off ebay and it appears its not rooted as i do not see the padlock icon and i also cannot run the nexus torch.
What im looking to do is revert back to the stock software and than do all the OTA updates myself.
Can someone help me with this ? Im not looking to root though.
Im running the ATT version of the Nexus one.
Thanks all for your help.
To be root or not
if you do not see the padlock, then you are root!!
hi, yes i know and i do not see the pad lock so i have a unrooted phone. Im trying to find out how i can install the stock software this way i can do the OTA updates myself.
Thanks
If there's no padlock and you're sure it's not rooted... why do you think it's not already stock?
Well its running gingerbread and i wanted to go back to froyo and than OTA the updates myself
If its not rooted, root it! What version you on currently?
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Im on the Nexus one ATT version, running the most recent gingerbread OS.
2.3.6???
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If it is, try root using this... http://apachejava.blogspot.com/2011/06/root-nexus-one-gingerbread-234.html
My dad using my nexus one, so i dunno much... So, is your bootloader unlock, if it is, then go ahead with the link above... Then S-OFF using BlackRose...
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Check this!!
Might help you.
http://answers.unity3d.com/questions/56512/downgrading-google-nexus-one-from-android-gingerbr.html
If you don't see the padlock it means the bootloader is still locked. If you don't have the SuperUser app then you are more than likely NOT rooted. Sounds like a stock phone if you ask me. Why do you want to roll back to Froyo then update? Sounds like you are already where you want to be. It sounds like a case of reaching around your ass to scratch your elbow. Heh. If you try to OTA update it and it says you are up to date, I would suggest leaving it alone or just root it! Good luck!
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Well its running gingerbread and i wanted to go back to froyo and than OTA the updates myself
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Why? Is there a problem with what is currently installed? If it's working fine, then I would expect downgrading to a previous version and applying the updates would just get you back to where you are now. I'm not criticizing, just trying to understand what you're looking to achieve
If you mean stock as in "original" that isn't Froyo either. The Nexus One originally came with Eclair (2.1). If you don't have root, I'm not sure if you can downgrade or how safe it would be. I've seen mixed results with downgrading. The only way to do a complete flash would be with an unlocked bootloader or root + custom recovery.
If you don't want to root or unlock the bootloader, why not just do a full wipe and use the version you have on it? You could also root it temporarily to restore to an unrooted Eclair or Froyo, then apply the updates.
Thanks Narbir, I'm going to try this. Does it matter I have AT&T ?
I hope So. I m usng Voda uk. Don't really brother me by that.
Well the phone reboots often for no reason so i thought if i started from the factory installed software and go forward it would help.
How hard is it to root to install enclar and than go forward ? Unless someone has another idea for the reboot issue ?
Install the latest stock ROM in PASSIMG format (complete ROM, all the partitions). No need to go back to Eclair or Froyo.
Prepare for the possibility of it not helping at all, and your phone HW being faulty. If you have ADB set up - you can run "adb bugreport" after the crash, and look for "ARM9 has crashed" line in the log dump that comes. If you'll see them - no amount of ROM switching will help.
Not to sound pedantic, but you seem a little confused (OP). Why don't you start by reading the FAQs regarding rooting and unlocking the bootloader, and understanding the ROM installation processes.
Couple of fundamentals to get you started:
1. The padlock (or absence of) is no indication of whether you are rooted or not. It merely indicates whether your 'bootloader' is unlocked or not, which is a completely separate concept from rooting.
2. Easiest method of seeing whether you are rooted is to see if you have the 'SuperUser' app in your app drawer.
If your objective is to install a stock/default ROM, search for a 'PASSIMG' for the latest available firmware for your device. Search these forums or Google it. The procedure is fairly straightforward and only involves putting the file on your SD card - and will restore your phone to a stock usable state.
If you're interested in custom ROMs, the fastest way to get started is to use SuperOneClick to root (Google, please). Then go to the market and download ROM Manager and just follow the instructions!
Hello there,
This is my first time using an android device, and I have just successfully rooted my n10.
But I was wondering if google came up with a new android version can I update it? And after I update it, is my device still rooted?
I'm just asking to make sure I don't messed up my tablet.
Thanks
Tim
D-X69 said:
Hello there,
This is my first time using an android device, and I have just successfully rooted my n10.
But I was wondering if google came up with a new android version can I update it? And after I update it, is my device still rooted?
I'm just asking to make sure I don't messed up my tablet.
Thanks
Tim
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In general there are ways to 'keep root'. But no one knows the future so each time its possible there are problems. People smarter than us will try first and work out all the kinks. If you need to have Google's update that same day you still can, but to do it 100% safely youll need to change things back.
So to literally answer your question - yes your tablet will be able to be updated. (Be sure you learn about what that means w/ root though prior to Googles next update.)
you will lose root. Always check the development section to see if that new upgrade has root.
If they do, upgrade then get root again. I say, be patient and wait for root before any upgrades... makes the Nexus more fun.
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you will lose root. Always check the development section to see if that new upgrade has root.
If they do, upgrade then get root again. I say, be patient and wait for root before any upgrades... makes the Nexus more fun.
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So do you mean, lets say there's a new android version and I'd have to get the new root then do a system update?
Or do I system update and then root my phone as soon as im done updating to the new version??
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D-X69,
I read on a few XDA posts that when people did the last OTA (4.2.2) update while rooted they lost root, but a few of them had used "OTA RootKeeper" and used it to restore root easily. Of course they had previous to applying the OTA update installed OTA RootKeeper and performed the initial root back.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.projectvoodoo.otarootkeeper&hl=en
Here are more options and a discussion on the subject:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2148167&highlight=ota+rootkeeper
and another where a user directly mentions success using OTA RootKeeper:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2152397&highlight=ota+rootkeeper
Since you are already rooted you have a couple choices. Flash an updated stock rooted ROM or go custom ROM that is updated. No need to lose your root to upgrade ROM.
And, to add to the above, here's a YouTube video explaining OTA Rootkeeper:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ky5miA8ilr0&feature=em-subs_digest
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All my devices run AOKP, and I have never looked back.