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Bad pictures from camera

Hi.
I just received my Arc and I'm shocked by something : the camera does bad pictures, cause the codec is lame. A 8Mp photo take less than 1Mo.
Can someone fix that in a rom or a kernel or is this to hard to do ?
Thanks.

the photos from almost every other Arc are incredible.. I suspect you have a problem... maybe you're settings are wrong .. or there's a fault.
Look here for examples of how good it is.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1035589

Look at one of mine (all are the sames).
http://sberfini.developpez.com/DSC_0005.jpg
http://sberfini.developpez.com/DSC_0010.jpg
By the way I'm using an LT15i (3.0.2.A.181) not rooted nor unlocked.

I've just rooted by arc. Is there a way to fix the jpeg compression ratio? It's way too high by default and images are losing details as a result.
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you can try vignette that barely compresses at all - but everyone is pretty much saying that the photo's from stock cam are still better!

im_iceman said:
you can try vignette that barely compresses at all - but everyone is pretty much saying that the photo's from stock cam are still better!
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Thanks mate. Yeah I noticed almost everyone's saying that...but if one was to put the facts together, picture size alone for a 8MP resolution image can't be less than 1MB...
Will try Vignette and see if it's better. I just hope there's some kind of tweak (like in the HTC HD2) where you could set the compression ratio to further improve the quality.
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You should try checking your camera setting OP.
Vignette is good, except it takes longer to preview the image in real size, and the unnecessarily 5~6x larger files with slightly worse quality than stock camera app.

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You should try checking your camera setting OP
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What's settings are you talking about ?
What's the difference between the one's who have a good quality photos and the others ? The firmware ? They have a LT15a instead of a LT15i ?
Please help me to understand.

Did you use auto scene recognition? The picture has some heavy noise in it, so I suspect you play with exposure value or select night scene mode.
2nd picture is blurry; Did you hold your arc firmly when taking the picture ?

Yes I'm using the auto scene detection. Should I disable it ?
For the fisrt picture, the flash was activated.
And yes, I was holding it firmly.

I use auto scene detection for most of my photos and they seem much better quality than yours there. Try some outdoor shots and post them, indoor ones can have a lot of noise if the light is low anyway.
I once had similar problems with a nokia n95. Everyone was posting great shots and mine were horrible. Turns out the handset was faulty.

Is THIS really all the camera is capable of?!?

Or is mine bad?!? Seriously, is no one else getting this problem with blown highlights and over-exposure, or are y'all accepting it? I bought this phone for its "superior camera" and while yes it can take pictures in low light I was not willing to give up taking good pictures in good lighting >8(
I installed Android Revolution 8, then 9, to get the "updated" camera- stock kernel, Dev. Ed.
Attached photo taken with stock camera with auto settings, no custom settings, no hdr (though that has been disappointing as well). Oh and white balance was about 5-800 Kelvin too yellow as well... (sigh)
So do I send it back to get cameras as good as everyone else's or start watching the Sony rumors again? Because my 18 month old Galaxy Note could get this picture right...
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The camera is awesome, its just you have to play around with the settings. Cange the sharpness to -1 and contrast to +1 for day light pictures. Also focus manually before taking pics.
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What were u expecting from a phone camera?
If you want realy good pictures you need to buy a good standalone camera..
The time isnt still there (and will be for along time) before phone cameras can compete with good standalone cameras...

I also find the camera disappointing. I love the software features like Zoe, but I personally can't rely on this camera to quickly capture a good picture. And I don't think the low light performance is very good either.
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Those pictures do not look nearly as good as pictures I have taken with mine,using stock settings. Here's a couple for example. The pictures look a lot better in original format as well in full resolution.
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I love this camera, it lacks the raw specs but it manages to capture those special moments very well, better than even a camera.

The camera has impressed me so far, especially the speed and the amazing colours.
Completely stock trickdroid settings for camera here
@jeeptrash love your cat
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My camera is working fine too
it's not perfect but it works

john291 said:
What were u expecting from a phone camera?
If you want realy good pictures you need to buy a good standalone camera..
The time isnt still there (and will be for along time) before phone cameras can compete with good standalone cameras...
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John, my expectations are to not move BACKWARD in quality. Trust me I carry my X100 half the time, but the other half this phone was supposed to fill in and it doesn't cut it.
It's your phone also blowing highlights and having white balance problems? I'm trying to understand if this behavior is typical or not.
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The overexposure thing is a little annoying it's true. HDR mode seems to recover lost shadow detail but doesn't seem to help with blown-out highlights.
Setting contrast to +1 is definitely *not* going to help it.
When you know there will be difficult highlights, setting exposure to -1 in normal non-HDR mode seems like the only response. Not ideal I know. Especially when making such a simple, temporary adjustment requires a lot of fiddling around with menus.

Yep, been playin with my camera all day, had no work in. Found the adjustment settings werent fine enough - swung too much one way or the other on +/- 1.
And indoor pictures where theres any daylight showing (doors/windows etc) caused the images to be washed out, even when focused on the lightest part first.
I think the hardware is fine, just some software improvements are needed. So its not all bad.

davedigerati said:
John, my expectations are to not move BACKWARD in quality. Trust me I carry my X100 half the time, but the other half this phone was supposed to fill in and it doesn't cut it.
It's your phone also blowing highlights and having white balance problems? I'm trying to understand if this behavior is typical or not.
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Hello yes it have the white balance problems sometimes..
I think they need to finetune the software better..
But it can also make some nice pictures too...
But a fine tuned software would be great..
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davedigerati said:
John, my expectations are to not move BACKWARD in quality. Trust me I carry my X100 half the time, but the other half this phone was supposed to fill in and it doesn't cut it.
It's your phone also blowing highlights and having white balance problems? I'm trying to understand if this behavior is typical or not.
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By the way this was a simple picture i took out of my window..
Here i like the shadow detail and the natural look of it..

The camera does over expose yes. If you want an easy to use camera. Get the S4/iPhone 5.

Can you control, ISO, shutter speed, Exposure compensation?
Turn ISO off automatic and set it to like 50

Terrorantula said:
Can you control, ISO, shutter speed, Exposure compensation?
Turn ISO off automatic and set it to like 50
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You can control iso but you cant get below 100..
The shutter speed cant be controlled manual..
The exposure can be set.

Terrorantula said:
Can you control, ISO, shutter speed, Exposure compensation?
Turn ISO off automatic and set it to like 50
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ISO & exposure yes, you can, and even better if you want to monkey with settings for every shot I recommend FV-5 which I use frequently
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...NvbS5mbGF2aW9uZXQuYW5kcm9pZC5jYW1lcmEucHJvIl0.
The point of my post though is not to find workarounds but to see if this is COMMON, or my camera chip has issues.
I'm puzzled by the lack of complaints out there and feel like the photo I posted was a good example of average sunny day conditions, done badly. Indoors, low light, we're fine, it's the sunny days that are the issue.
Everyone quiet means either
a) everyone is accepting poor quality sunny day photos
b) my camera has issues and everyone else's is fine
c) everyone is feeling a little bit bad that the camera they were promised would offer 'a great leap in the quality of point-and-shoot photos and video' (http://www.htc.com/www/zoe/) frankly isn't, and reluctant to say so, or
d) other?
So everyone shooting sunny day pics please chime, in I appreciate your input- if your pics are coming out great without clipping I'll start the RMA process, or if yours are getting blown I'll fire up the angry fan-boi machine and pester every HTC channel I can hit with requests for a camera update.
Cheers,
Dave

The latter option.

I second, go for the latter
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davedigerati said:
ISO & exposure yes, you can, and even better if you want to monkey with settings for every shot I recommend FV-5 which I use frequently
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...NvbS5mbGF2aW9uZXQuYW5kcm9pZC5jYW1lcmEucHJvIl0.
The point of my post though is not to find workarounds but to see if this is COMMON, or my camera chip has issues.
I'm puzzled by the lack of complaints out there and feel like the photo I posted was a good example of average sunny day conditions, done badly. Indoors, low light, we're fine, it's the sunny days that are the issue.
Everyone quiet means either
a) everyone is accepting poor quality sunny day photos
b) my camera has issues and everyone else's is fine
c) everyone is feeling a little bit bad that the camera they were promised would offer 'a great leap in the quality of point-and-shoot photos and video' (http://www.htc.com/www/zoe/) frankly isn't, and reluctant to say so, or
d) other?
So everyone shooting sunny day pics please chime, in I appreciate your input- if your pics are coming out great without clipping I'll start the RMA process, or if yours are getting blown I'll fire up the angry fan-boi machine and pester every HTC channel I can hit with requests for a camera update.
Cheers,
Dave
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I have posted few times in this forum about disappointing camera or my expectation is too high. Maybe the next HTC software update would fix them. I like the speakers though which is undeniable to be the best.

Camera is superb.
But it's not all things to all men. If you prepared to fanny around with lighting, settings, angles etc for a photo, and expect a high res masterpiece, this isn't your bag. If you want a point and shoot camera which takes nr unbeatable pictures quickly, then this is it.
Mega bright lights will screw any photo up. Your picture is remarkable given the phone was able to cope at all.
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Dealbreaker?

Hey guys, I've had my Moto X for a week now and I might return to my Note 3. I really like this phone overall, but man the camera really is that bad. I read all the stories but hoped the update would be good enough for me. Unfortunately it hasn't been.
I can't even imagine how bad the camera must have been before the update. The camera is simply dreadful. Do I have a defective Moto X or is it really this bad?
If I'm not outside on a sunny day or in a really well lit room, it's the worst camera I've ever had on any smartphone that I've ever owned. And that includes phones from over 4 years ago. Is it really this bad?
Here are some sample shots. I took these same shots with my Note 3, and those shots blew these away. I will try to post those later.
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Yes, It is that bad. Coming from a S4 and I know what you mean. But I still love being free with a unlocked bootlaoder and would not go back.

Ughh, I was afraid of that. I really like the phone, but not sure I can deal with this. Thanks bro.
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I don't think the camera is bad at all. I didn't get to experience how it was before any of the updates though.
So far color representation looks to be spot on. I was even impressed by the low light quality. I took a picture last night in a dimly lit room and was astounded at how good the picture came out. It's way better than my last phone (EVO 3D).

ahhh ya i came from an iPhone 4 which is 3.5 yrs old and the camera on that was better in every category except low light performance.

Are you using HDR?
I also see that your flash seems to be firing. I have Auto Flash OFF because the pictures to look very washed out with the bright white flash. I find that the camera works much better and has much better saturation in lower light with the flash off.
If I'm just taking a picture of a list or piece of paper and I only need to be able to see/read it, I use the flash, otherwise I keep the flash off for "nice" photos.

Have you tried using any camera apps. I would recommend the following two apps :"a Better Camera "almost fully functional in the free version and FV-5, a paid app and I don't believe there is a trial version. I have been experimenting with both apps and have been quiet successful getting some really decent low light shots. Both apps allow you to set the ISO level and "a Better Camera" allows you to set the amount of noise reduction for low light shots (the options are None, Minor & Hard). Worth trying out either app in my opinion.
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I've got pics of the kids inside at night, with flash on... And the pics are easy better than my s2 was. I find background light can make the pic taking tricky tho. I have to move slightly one easy or the other and when I get it right the pics are just fine. Maybe other phones handle background light easier.... But with a little practise, I find this camera pretty good.
That's just me.
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And yes... Sometimes you think you need a flash inside... When you don't. And the pics are easy better with no flash. Again... I had to play around and get to know how and where the best pics turn out.
But again.... I'm one of those, it's just a phone camera guys... I'm maybe not as picky. I'm not trying to sell my pics, so I'm happy. If I know I want to take very good pics somewhere... In advance... I bring my camera.
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Right about now it would be nice to see 4.4.2 with camera update. Noise/quality are un-exeptable for a $500+ phone. Yes S4 is night and day difference with Moto X in camera.
S4 was the FIRST camera in phone that I used and I took many pictures, most came out usable and some pretty impressive. With MX, most pictures indoors I cant even look at.....I delete all of them right away.

The only place I find camera quality to be bad is in low light, but it's not the hardware, it's the software. The camera software just sets the ISO higher than it should and overexposes everything in low light. I use FV-5 to manually set a lower ISO and manually set the metering point so that it doesn't overexpose the shot, and then I can get great shots in low light. If you don't know a little about cameras or aren't willing to take the time to manually adjust low light shots though, you'll be disappointed. In decent lighting I can get some great shots even with the stock camera app though, especially with HDR.

gtg465x said:
The only place I find camera quality to be bad is in low light, but it's not the hardware, it's the software. The camera software just sets the ISO higher than it should and overexposes everything in low light. I use FV-5 to manually set a lower ISO and manually set the metering point so that it doesn't overexpose the shot, and then I can get great shots in low light. If you don't know a little about cameras or aren't willing to take the time to manually adjust low light shots though, you'll be disappointed. In decent lighting I can get some great shots even with the stock camera app though, especially with HDR.
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Perhaps you are right. But how hard is it for a TEAM of developers at Motorola/Google to figure this out ? We are on 2nd camera update here its still ****
PS. on S4 I used only 2 modes and didnt even touch settings, Auto and Night Mode......thats all I needed to take excellent photos.
few night/low light shots from S4, last one was taken in almost complete darkness, camera just picked up light from night club flashing lights

I agree. I love this phone but the camera sucks. Snoop Dogg came to my Christmas party and I was so excited to get some shots.
They all came out blurry all my buddies with S4s got killer shots. I don't know, maybe I'll blame it on the alcohol....
That ticked me off a bit.
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gtg465x said:
The only place I find camera quality to be bad is in low light, but it's not the hardware, it's the software. The camera software just sets the ISO higher than it should and overexposes everything in low light. I use FV-5 to manually set a lower ISO and manually set the metering point so that it doesn't overexpose the shot, and then I can get great shots in low light. If you don't know a little about cameras or aren't willing to take the time to manually adjust low light shots though, you'll be disappointed. In decent lighting I can get some great shots even with the stock camera app though, especially with HDR.
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This. For low light shots, I either use fv5 or take the photos with the stock camera and run them through Perfectly clear. I've gotten a lot of fantastic shots with my X. Low-light is the only setting in which I need to kind of finagle anything.

WizeGuyDezignz said:
Hey guys, I've had my Moto X for a week now and I might return to my Note 3. I really like this phone overall, but man the camera really is that bad. I read all the stories but hoped the update would be good enough for me. Unfortunately it hasn't been.
I can't even imagine how bad the camera must have been before the update. The camera is simply dreadful. Do I have a defective Moto X or is it really this bad?
If I'm not outside on a sunny day or in a really well lit room, it's the worst camera I've ever had on any smartphone that I've ever owned. And that includes phones from over 4 years ago. Is it really this bad?
Here are some sample shots. I took these same shots with my Note 3, and those shots blew these away. I will try to post those later.
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if you take a pic of your tree with an SLR with the same exposure settings and you'll get an equally awful pic.
honestly i think the camera on the X is fine. i think it could be better but i think overall its a pretty good camera, on par with some point and shoots i've used. it all comes down to lighting, plus the HDR mode really helps.

Been using Camera FV-5 for whenever I need low light shots. First one is the stock camera app and the second shot is via Camera FV-5. These were shot in very low light conditions.

il buono said:
Been using Camera FV-5 for whenever I need low light shots. First one is the stock camera app and the second shot is via Camera FV-5. These were shot in very low light conditions.
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Gonna give it a try. Big difference there

kolyan said:
Gonna give it a try. Big difference there
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CameraZoomFX lets you pick the ISO setting too, which could increase the exposure.

640k said:
if you take a pic of your tree with an SLR with the same exposure settings and you'll get an equally awful pic.
honestly i think the camera on the X is fine. i think it could be better but i think overall its a pretty good camera, on par with some point and shoots i've used. it all comes down to lighting, plus the HDR mode really helps.
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I am curious if these photos were taken with the stock camera app or a 3rd party app?
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telefoner said:
I am curious if these photos were taken with the stock camera app or a 3rd party app?
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Stock. You can tell from the image properties.
EDIT: I take it back. There's no specific information that says what app took the pic, only what device. Technically we're talking about the inability of the Moto X's sensor to perform adequately. Different apps can force different settings/processing techniques, but you're still limited to the sensor/lens capability of the device.
Here's a CameraZoomFX photo taken with a DROID4:
It's all about lighting.

I'm with you on this one WizeGuy. At first I didn't think the camera was as bad as people said it was. But after using it in the wild and over the course of a week, it really is disappointing. The biggest issue for me is consistency. I CAN get a decent shot if I try to. Low light performance is terrible however and it's really tough to get a good shot most of the time. I was also coming from an S4 and didn't expect it to be on the same level obviously, but now that I've played with it enough, I'm positive even my S3 was better overall. In fact, I've been comparing it with an old iPhone 4S and I couldn't say it's better than that camera (except when there is ample lighting). I take a lot of pictures and it is important to me. Yes it is a camera phone, but downgrading is harder to accept than I thought it would be. I guess I value something that is consistent and easy in auto mode when it comes to my phone. Much sadder is the fact that I really like everything else about this phone, much more than the s4. I prefer the size the moto x by far to anything out there, but the nexus 5 is tempting me right now.

Camera Tests Z3 - Post your pics here -

in theory Sony Xperia Z3 has the same sensor of Z1, Z1 Compact and Z2, but with the new lens, camera firmware and a revised hardware support Sony promises great improvements
Actually new lens are 25mm for a good wide-angle, firmware seems to work better than previous Z2 and hardware should work better in low light conditions. Now you can raise the ISO to 12800, too. Autofocus is faster
Then we could use this thread to collect our shots taken from Sony Z3..It would be great to compare photos with the other devices
I will do once I get my Z3
Let's go!

Here is some pictures
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Nice pics from West Brom

Hmm.. They seem to be OK but not excellent.. Not sure if worth changing from my m8 (sure it's better camera on z3 but not THAT much)

I think it's a tapatalk resizing problem...it isn't good to upload high quality photos

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Here is some pictures
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Please upload to flickr, photobucket, or google+

Here is some pictures from another user
All shots are taken by Superior Auto mode (and we know 8mpx Manual mode, ISO 50, exposure -0,3 and a good sun light in the sky is much better)
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B23J_aHn-BJhaDVNWjdMa252VWM&usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B23J_aHn-BJhNU9uYThUT0tnbnM&usp=sharing

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Here is some pictures from another user
All shots are taken by Superior Auto mode (and we know 8mpx Manual mode, ISO 50, exposure -0,3 and a good sun light in the sky is much better)
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B23J_aHn-BJhaDVNWjdMa252VWM&usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B23J_aHn-BJhNU9uYThUT0tnbnM&usp=sharing
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Looks good to me

guybrush2099 said:
Here is some pictures from another user
All shots are taken by Superior Auto mode (and we know 8mpx Manual mode, ISO 50, exposure -0,3 and a good sun light in the sky is much better)
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B23J_aHn-BJhaDVNWjdMa252VWM&usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B23J_aHn-BJhNU9uYThUT0tnbnM&usp=sharing
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Those look superb. I need to go someplace nice to test the cam on my Z3

I don't want to start any war or anything and my z3 is already in the post waiting for me but looking at these pictures I am really not sure if I should get it. I am compering side by side to m8 pictures and I could say that 55% of the time m8 makes better pictures..

CandyAndy said:
I don't want to start any war or anything and my z3 is already in the post waiting for me but looking at these pictures I am really not sure if I should get it. I am compering side by side to m8 pictures and I could say that 55% of the time m8 makes better pictures..
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Wait and do side by side. Then zoom and crop. The results will be very revealing to you. I had the M8 for 5 months. Great phone....great build quality....great UI....very fast and the boom sound is amazing. But the camera was very disappointing. Sorry but 4MP is still 4MP even if they are Ultra pixels.

I learned since getting this phone just how irrelevant mega pixels are .Is this better then my htc one? I imagine so,I cant do a comparison as i no longer have my htc but iam pretty sure this camera is better but is it ALOT better? I would have to say no.I expected the camera to be alot better then it is personally but i saw mentioned that it may improve after a firmware update so fingers crossed because if this is supposed to be one of the best camera's on a smartphone then the competition must be lacking

Blaalad12 said:
I learned since getting this phone just how irrelevant mega pixels are .Is this better then my htc one? I imagine so,I cant do a comparison as i no longer have my htc but iam pretty sure this camera is better but is it ALOT better? I would have to say no.I expected the camera to be alot better then it is personally but i saw mentioned that it may improve after a firmware update so fingers crossed because if this is supposed to be one of the best camera's on a smartphone then the competition must be lacking
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From the specs atleast the sensor size on z3 is bigger than htc one m8. So it should make a difference in low light photography

jamezr said:
Wait and do side by side. Then zoom and crop. The results will be very revealing to you. I had the M8 for 5 months. Great phone....great build quality....great UI....very fast and the boom sound is amazing. But the camera was very disappointing. Sorry but 4MP is still 4MP even if they are Ultra pixels.
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Yeah must agree. I have now taken some comparison shots with both of them and z3 is quite a lot better. Yet it also leaves something to improve.
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But a lot of force closes already! What's going on. And camera says can't start recording since others program already using. Well factory reset now. But doesn't look too good

CandyAndy said:
Yeah must agree. I have now taken some comparison shots with both of them and z3 is quite a lot better. Yet it also leaves something to improve.
You can check the pictures here
https://drive.google.com/folder/d/0B0MUVjq_igOMZHpjODJTNkRDZmc/edit
I took these on purpose in very demanding conditions so both of them have hard times.
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But a lot of force closes already! What's going on. And camera says can't start recording since others program already using. Well factory reset now. But doesn't look too good
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The error in the camera app is because you have "Ok Google" enabled on any screen in Google now, I had this same issue and turned it off until Sony release a fix for it.
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can someone do a high iso (12800) shot?

CandyAndy said:
Yeah must agree. I have now taken some comparison shots with both of them and z3 is quite a lot better. Yet it also leaves something to improve.
You can check the pictures here
https://drive.google.com/folder/d/0B0MUVjq_igOMZHpjODJTNkRDZmc/edit
I took these on purpose in very demanding conditions so both of them have hard times.
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But a lot of force closes already! What's going on. And camera says can't start recording since others program already using. Well factory reset now. But doesn't look too good
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Thanks for the comparison pictures. I own a Z2 myself and the picture quality seems very similar to the Z3's.
Maybe it's just me, but I personally preferred the M8's pictures! They looked sharper and less noise, even if it can't zoom as much as the Z3's pics

ipmanwck said:
Nice pics from West Brom
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any 800x600 pictures will look good these days.
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guybrush2099 said:
Here is some pictures from another user
All shots are taken by Superior Auto mode (and we know 8mpx Manual mode, ISO 50, exposure -0,3 and a good sun light in the sky is much better)
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B23J_aHn-BJhaDVNWjdMa252VWM&usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B23J_aHn-BJhNU9uYThUT0tnbnM&usp=sharing
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most of these are average at best.

There's no way the M8 camera is better. It is one of the lowest rated cameras of any current smartphone. Many professional tests have been conducted, check multiple websites if you don't believe me.
It's possible you either have a faulty unit, unlocked your bootloader which broke the sensor software (read about it in another thread) or Sony need to release a firmware update to fix this.

ssj_jaypee said:
There's no way the M8 camera is better. It is one of the lowest rated cameras of any current smartphone. Many professional tests have been conducted, check multiple websites if you don't believe me.
It's possible you either have a faulty unit, unlocked your bootloader which broke the sensor software (read about it in another thread) or Sony need to release a firmware update to fix this.
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Iam guessing a firmware update will improve things because i too am underwhelmed with the camera on this phone and i surprisingly thought the m8 pictures looked better in this thread which is kinda embarrassing for sony if you ask me! I havent played around much with the camera if iam honest but with the few pics i have taken i have found sharpness to be lacking ALOT and the flash is way too bright and ruining night time pics

Improving front and back camera performance

Hey guys,
Recently got my z2 and I am not entirely pleased with camera performance,especially in low light.
What kind of camera improvements are there? How different is the camera performance on let's say, CM rom?
I've used HTC m7, iPhone 5, galaxy s3 and s5 and now z2 but the cameras never matched up to my iPhone 5.
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What settings do you use for low light
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I did a fast compare with my daughter's iphone5s and my colleagues iphone 6 and my z2 was fare better in low light

I use auto because I usually don't have time to fiddle around with manual when I need to take a quick picture.

At thread setter would you mind gave us a proof with z2 and iPhone 5 picture comparison. Especially low light?
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matase said:
I use auto because I usually don't have time to fiddle around with manual when I need to take a quick picture.
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Auto mod isn't something you should take to compare with other devices.
I agree, Sony could write better camera code but they didn't...
Auto mod is similar to taking pictures with idiot camera.
Find someone who is professional photographer or he/she knows a bit of that topic and ask him/her to shoot few pictures with your device using manual settings...
You'll be surprised how good camera is on Z1/Z2...
As I said, it would be great to have good auto mod and be able to take a picture with a single button pressed but if we don't have that that doesn't mean we have awful camera...
And comparation to iPhone 5 is kinda funny...
I tried iPhone 4 and 5 camera and it cannot be compared to Z2...
Picts are grainy and they aren't even close with colors on Z2 pictures.
Z2 has rich colors and better contrast, you just have to find someone who can show you how to set up camera...

Alright so if I am out at a bar with friends am I supposed go to manual settings and adjust them while everyone waits idk 20-40 seconds? I guess if you get good at it you can change manual settings in less than 10 seconds. If I am on a trip somewhere and I am taking still objects, perhaps I can take my time to adjust the settings.
I wish I still had my iPhone 5 to take comparison pictures in auto modes of each phone. No phone matched the auto picture quality in low light ( speed of shutter, or quality).
I am not bashing z2 camera, and especially since I am in a z2 forum, of course most of the time people will say that z2 is a better phone. It just seems that auto mode on z2 is lacking and Sony could just update the software to remedy this.

You can set your manual mode and open camera from app drawe, that way you'll go to manual mode and your settings.
If you open camera with camera button it'll go straight to auto mode.
As I said...
It would be better to have great auto mode but we don't have it...
If you want to use this device you'll have to accept that.
Who knows, maybe Sony rewrite camera drivers and software for Android 5.0..

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Who knows, maybe Sony rewrite camera drivers and software for Android 5.0..
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this we can confirm on camera quality being ALOT better because of android LP alowing RAW data writing(dont remember the spesifics)

matase said:
Alright so if I am out at a bar with friends am I supposed go to manual settings and adjust them while everyone waits idk 20-40 seconds? I guess if you get good at it you can change manual settings in less than 10 seconds. If I am on a trip somewhere and I am taking still objects, perhaps I can take my time to adjust the settings.
I wish I still had my iPhone 5 to take comparison pictures in auto modes of each phone. No phone matched the auto picture quality in low light ( speed of shutter, or quality).
I am not bashing z2 camera, and especially since I am in a z2 forum, of course most of the time people will say that z2 is a better phone. It just seems that auto mode on z2 is lacking and Sony could just update the software to remedy this.
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Its really hard to convince that you're iphone 5 is better than z2 cause my wife is a iphone fanatic since 4s so I can used her iPhone everytime and as I can recall that iphone 5s is way better than 5 in terms of photo quality. I can agree that front of z2 is not good at low light but in terms of back camera, a sample photo with same condition and environment is a good way for photo comparison.
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matase said:
Hey guys,
Recently got my z2 and I am not entirely pleased with camera performance,especially in low light.
What kind of camera improvements are there? How different is the camera performance on let's say, CM rom?
I've used HTC m7, iPhone 5, galaxy s3 and s5 and now z2 but the cameras never matched up to my iPhone 5.
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Unfortunately the auto mode on the Sony cameraphones are piss poor! It gets the white balance wrong particularly under natural lighting resulting in washed looking colours.
It tends to over expose everything and cranks up the iso too high to avoid blurring but increasing the luminescent noise in the process.
There's no way around this unfortunately, not right now anyway. You'll have to set the camera up manually.
I'd say use auto white balance under artificial lighting or at night but always choose the daylight setting under natural light.
When you press the two stage shutter down, it locks focus and exposure so you can see if it's over or under exposed and then adjust accordingly.
For ISO, I'd say don't go above 400 even at night. 50 for very good and daylight conditions. 100 to 200 for okay lighting and 400 when shooting under low lighting.
It's a fiddly camera! No escaping that.
Agreed Sony needs to sort out the poor auto mode or scrap it completely. It's hopeless!
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