amyway to. charge faster? - Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General

any way to charge the p600 faster?
I believe its the exnoyos octa processor. this is seriously making me consider snapdragon version of note pro 12.2 since it will be usb 3.0, any idea what that model will be. called?
curious, what , if any of p601 or p605 have that snapdragon 800, the quick charge 2.0??
thanks
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There are many threads on this but anyhoo.
There is a way to charge P600 in 4hours from 5% to 100%. Put it on charge from 5% to just over 80% and then unplug and plug it straignt back in. Dont know why but it charges slowly from 80% if you dont do this.
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Pretty sure the slower "trickle" charge after 80% is to help prolong battery longevity and to prevent overheating. Li-ion/Po cells are very sensitive and dangerous so dropping too much energy in a very fast manner will age the cells faster and also could cause them to overheat and possibly explode

chinesestunna said:
Pretty sure the slower "trickle" charge after 80% is to help prolong battery longevity and to prevent overheating. Li-ion/Po cells are very sensitive and dangerous so dropping too much energy in a very fast manner will age the cells faster and also could cause them to overheat and possibly explode
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Oh :what:
I guess I wont be doing that again then, thanks for letting us know.
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Battery Calibration (Harmless Method)

Bump Charge your android device
Follow the below mentioned steps so as to make the most of your battery charge:
1 Turn your device ON and Charge the device for 8 hours or more,
2 Unplug the device and Turn the phone OFF and charge for 1 hour,
3 Unplug the device Turn ON wait 2 minutes and Turn OFF and charge for another hour
Your battery life should almost double, as per the htc executives they have tested themselves and found out that there is a huge improvement in the battery life.
This post was published by HTC, so sharing with all android users.
))))) really? In my opinion is useless.
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Hmm this should be done once or each time i charge? ?
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I guess that is not a thing, u'd do at every charge.
Maybe after changing a rom. Its easier to clear bat stat file.
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Maybe it will work but it will force your battery...longer battery usage time with the expense of battery lifetime? Not worthwhile..
SGS2 and Galaxy Note battery doesn't need calibration... just read this and get informed before posting useless stuff:
[Guide] Everything you wanted to know about Li-Ion batteries but were afraid to ask!
Things You Should Know About Lithium Ion Battery
Complete Guide to Lithium Polymer Batteries and LiPo Failure Reports
zylor said:
SGS2 and Galaxy Note battery doesn't need calibration... just read this and get informed before posting useless stuff:
[Guide] Everything you wanted to know about Li-Ion batteries but were afraid to ask!
Things You Should Know About Lithium Ion Battery
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HTC also uses Li-ion batteries so if it makes a difference there it's quite plausible it would work for us as well. Don't believe all the battery manufacturer hype.
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Zamboney said:
HTC also uses Li-ion batteries so if it makes a difference there it's quite plausible it would work for us as well. Don't believe all the battery manufacturer hype.
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I don't... i just read that articles and know some stuff related to batteries.. and never got one single battery to get to a faulty status
kopitalk said:
Maybe it will work but it will force your battery...longer battery usage time with the expense of battery lifetime? Not worthwhile..
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Of course it's worthwhile. You can easily replace the battery if required and I'd much prefer longer usage time as I'll probably have changed phone before it's noticeable anyway. Not that I believe the method shortens the lifetime anyway.
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In essence this is overcharging the battery. Shortening its life as well as its ability to hold a charge in the long run...
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Calibrating Li-Ion batteries is a myth...It does not hurt the battery if you don't charge it "full" before you first use it and let it drain out before its charge again...and ect...it just doesn't matter. It's all bull****.
I have never see so much voodoo related to a simple issue.
Given a device has an internal charge voltage regulator and battery voltage, current & temperature monitor, then it is possible for the system to ascertain battery full status and calibrate the monitor system with one single full charge cycle.. This is neither new nor rocket science, and has been the basis for battery monitoring systems for a very long time.
Secondly, it is quite simply not possible to overcharge a battery.. a battery of any given chemical cell structure has a voltage at capacity that is a constant. Applying higher voltages to "over-charge" a battery, simply has the excess charging power dissipated as heat in the battery charging circuit... Full = Full. Period.
all this other stuff is wishful hogwash..
Mystic38 said:
I have never see so much voodoo related to a simple issue.
Given a device has an internal charge voltage regulator and battery voltage, current & temperature monitor, then it is possible for the system to ascertain battery full status and calibrate the monitor system with one single full charge cycle.. This is neither new nor rocket science, and has been the basis for battery monitoring systems for a very long time.
Secondly, it is quite simply not possible to overcharge a battery.. a battery of any given chemical cell structure has a voltage at capacity that is a constant. Applying higher voltages to "over-charge" a battery, simply has the excess charging power dissipated as heat in the battery charging circuit... Full = Full. Period.
all this other stuff is wishful hogwash..
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Actually, the awesome Note doesn't have a current monitor, only a voltage one (and temp), which could make these voodoo rituals useful.
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Zamboney said:
HTC also uses Li-ion batteries so if it makes a difference there it's quite plausible it would work for us as well. Don't believe all the battery manufacturer hype.
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This "trick" won't work on Samsung devices. It worked on HTC devices due to the type of fuel gauge chip they used, namely the ds2784 and ds2746 etc. But Samsung phones use the max17040 and max17043 fuel gauges and they do not react the same and thus "bump" charging literally does nothing on a Samsung phone.
Zamboney said:
Actually, the awesome Note doesn't have a current monitor, only a voltage one (and temp), which could make these voodoo rituals useful.
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... and then you would need to explain why managing the voltage would not manage the current ....
"could" but highly unlikely.. and tbh unless you can provide some engineering theory based substantiation for it (the voodoo), my comment stands...
fwiw, it is not actually necessary to monitor charge current... A charger, be it single stage or multi stage, applies a charge voltage and the battery accepts current. As the battery charges, so its voltage increases and when the battery voltage is raised to within a predetermined window related to the charge voltage, then that charge stage is complete.. In general the final charge cycle, float, is left running as long as the device is connected to a charging source, though in some devices (eg iphone) the float charge is cycled on and off in a tight window of battery voltage.
Zamboney said:
Actually, the awesome Note doesn't have a current monitor, only a voltage one (and temp), which could make these voodoo rituals useful.
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Tried and to my surprise worked - SGN
What I can say, just out of my curiosity I tried that thing and now, after 1 day of light use of my SGN it is now at 60 %, usually was down to 15-20 % . Did also battery stat wipe before. I do not argue with anyone, whether it is supposed to work or whether it can`t work and even not on Samsung device - whatever. Very useful and good method for me .
zylor said:
SGS2 and Galaxy Note battery doesn't need calibration... just read this and get informed before posting useless stuff:
[Guide] Everything you wanted to know about Li-Ion batteries but were afraid to ask!
Things You Should Know About Lithium Ion Battery
Complete Guide to Lithium Polymer Batteries and LiPo Failure Reports
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hummm... good to know, and Galaxy S1?
este548 said:
What I can say, just out of my curiosity I tried that thing and now, after 1 day of light use of my SGN it is now at 60 %, usually was down to 15-20 % . Did also battery stat wipe before. I do not argue with anyone, whether it is supposed to work or whether it can`t work and even not on Samsung device - whatever. Very useful and good method for me .
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I agree just tested it today even though all the logic says it does not work if did for me. 79% left after a day of light use. Normally it would be below 50%.
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Thanks I'm going to try this

Leaving In Mains

I want to use my Samsung Galaxy Note as a tablet. Sure, it isn't as large as a 10" tab but it offers the same great resolution. However, 5 hours battery life isn't good enough. Someone I know suggested just leaving it in the mains during heavy usage, as I would with my laptop, but would this not kill the battery? How can I get tablet usage out of my device whilst still having battery power left should I have to go out and need a phone?
On the topic of battery, what does power-saving mode actually do?
Lowers MHz, brightness, turns on one core only (my guess)
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debernardis said:
Lowers MHz, brightness, turns on one core only (my guess)
Carefully crafted on my Galaxy Note, for your eyes only
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Thanks.
Will leaving it powered in mains ruin battery then?
^^ I don't think so. When the phone is fully charged, it stops receiving current. So, your phone should be safe.
Also curious.
Thanks. I want to use the device as a tablet but not be left without any battery.
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There is a limited amount you can do.
One of the bigger advantages of a larger tablet is the ability to have a huge battery - three or four times the capacity.
Using the note while plugged in is a bit annoying.
One alternative is external chargers/batteries. Swapping batteries every x hours isn't a huge deal.
- Frank
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But would leaving it in mains harm battery.
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No !! it will not damage the battery, As said above the phone stops receiving currents when fully charged.
Modern day batteries will out live the actual device, and under extreme pressures it will still live longer than the time you will own the device.
in general not due to technology, however its best not to, wear tear connectors, usb jacket plus risk when accidentslly dropping it bending it etc, etc etc
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Brad387 said:
But would leaving it in mains harm battery.
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Shouldn't do. Modern batteries don't suffer with lack of full charge cycles like old NiCd and NiMH batteries used to.
Probably won't hurt to fully discharge it every now and then to help with battery calibration though.
Thanks! Problem solved then.
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[Q] Charger types

Hi
Can anyone tell me with total certainty if the S3 and S4 mains chargers are interchangeable with either device without long term damage? My S3 charger delivers 0.7A and my S4 charger delivers 2.0A
Obviously I have loads of S3 chargers and don't want to fork out for more for the S4 - would the S3 charger just charge the S4 slower? Would using the S4 charger damage the S3? I still need to use both phones (work/home)
Thanks!
Paul
Yes, the S3 charger will just charge the S4 at about 1/3 the speed of the S4 charger. Otherwise, it's fine.
stuartv said:
Yes, the S3 charger will just charge the S4 at about 1/3 the speed of the S4 charger. Otherwise, it's fine.
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Thanks, I would expect that really but how about the other way around? Does anyone know what the max charge rate is for the S3? If I plug the S4 charger in it provides 2A is this too much for the S3? I have looked around and can't find any max charge rates :s
Paul75_XD said:
Thanks, I would expect that really but how about the other way around? Does anyone know what the max charge rate is for the S3? If I plug the S4 charger in it provides 2A is this too much for the S3? I have looked around and can't find any max charge rates :s
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Well you should test it out, have a battery app or widget on the S3 and charge it with the S4 charger. If it gets too hot, then its best to stick with the S3 charger.
Paul75_XD said:
Thanks, I would expect that really but how about the other way around? Does anyone know what the max charge rate is for the S3? If I plug the S4 charger in it provides 2A is this too much for the S3? I have looked around and can't find any max charge rates :s
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No, I think stuartv is making joke. With different currency, I think you can not use S3 charger to charge S4.
tiffany9123 said:
No, I think stuartv is making joke. With different currency, I think you can not use S3 charger to charge S4.
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No, it's not a different current, it's just different power with the same voltage. Therefore, both chargers are interchangeable and it won't break any phone, no worries. If the S3 can't drain 2W (I don't know if it can), it'll just drain less.
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ah you mean the phone draws the power rather than the adapter pushing the power through the circuit?
Charging any battery at a higher current will shorten the life of the battery, only sightly at those levels though, and vise versa charging at lowers currents will increase the life of the battery
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calum96 said:
Charging any battery at a higher current will shorten the life of the battery, only sightly at those levels though, and vise versa charging at lowers currents will increase the life of the battery
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damned physics!
But do the sake of fast charging, I'd just buy anoher battery 2 years later for £10
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Paul75_XD said:
Hi
Can anyone tell me with total certainty if the S3 and S4 mains chargers are interchangeable with either device without long term damage? My S3 charger delivers 0.7A and my S4 charger delivers 2.0A
Obviously I have loads of S3 chargers and don't want to fork out for more for the S4 - would the S3 charger just charge the S4 slower? Would using the S4 charger damage the S3? I still need to use both phones (work/home)
Thanks!
Paul
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The original charger works perfect charging with ful voltage and fast s3 charger sucks or use 3 pins chager mostly come with us models
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Should we turn "fast charging" off?

I think samsung didn't make this clear at all. And at the moment, I really don't have sure what is the best thing to do. Let this always turned on may let the battery have a decrease of capacity on a period of time?
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No. Remember, the battery has a "safe" range of voltage. Of course I am assuming that even within the safe range it won't degrade any faster.
Also remember, you can just replace the battery!
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I also think this way. But when we let the phone charging overnight, during our sleep time. The fast charging is not necessary. In this scenario, did you still leave this mode on?
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I leave Fast Charging OFF because I only charge my phone while I'm asleep.
I think fast charging is harder on the battery than standard charging but as always, and unlike other phones, we can easily replace the battery in seconds.
ShadowFlare said:
I leave Fast Charging OFF because I only charge my phone while I'm asleep.
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Same here, I leave it Off most of the time as I charge while I sleep, and only use it when I need a quick boost if the day is going to be much longer than expected, e.g. if I'm going out after work and not sure if I'll go back to my own place after that.
Fast charge is the only thing stopping me from complaining about the 5hr SOT
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Not sure its placebo or not but when i use fast charging i think im getting worse SOT times.
tmac31 said:
Not sure its placebo or not but when i use fast charging i think im getting worse SOT times.
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It must be the placebo effect, I am not seeing any diff.
It's a great feature, should just use it and worry about battery life when the time comes. Like others already said, the battery can easily be replaced.
OBVIOUSLY the phone is designed for fast charging at night while we sleep or would you rather believe Qualcomm and Samsung didn't think of that and we now all have a ticking time battery bomb ready to go off at any moment at night....
Oh the horror....
So does this feature make battery life worse?
I dont charge mine over night, but if i did, I would turn off fast charging, or use one of my lower powered chargers. The fast charging is excellent duringbthe day, but using it while you sleep serves no purpose
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I tried theboth . I think both of them take same time to be the battery fully charged
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They take the same time to completely charge your device. Quick charge will charge your phone at full speed for about 15mins and then gradually decrease the charging speed so as to conserve battery life. It should not be a problem to quick charge your phone overnight because of this feature.
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Also it would not be a problem because it doesnt keep feeding into your battery when your battery is full. There ARE safetymeasures, its ultimately irrelevant. I leave it on fastcharging all the time, because theres no reason to turn it off.
Leave it on. It's one of the best feature. Fast charging. Luv it.
Having used multiple batteries, and both fast charging on and off with several different chargers, I can say that it has no effect on SOT. This isn't a thought, I record battery use with and compare the data.
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Surely there has to be SOME downside, if they allow you to disable it.
I mean, if there's no downside, why would anyone want their battery to take longer to charge?
EP2008 said:
Having used multiple batteries, and both fast charging on and off with several different chargers, I can say that it has no effect on SOT. This isn't a thought, I record battery use with and compare the data.
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Seems like a highly scientific test there

FAST charging shorten battery life?

I know batteries are built to be charged some 10,000 with little to no issues. Will fast charging change this? Since does it not stress the battery more to fast charge vs standard charge? Just looking for information. And to start a conversation. Since this is their first flagship without removable battery
no.Urban legend.
Heat would be considered the number 1 enemy of battery life, fast charging makes batteries hotter therefore it's not illogical to think that battery life may be reduced using fast charge.
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There is interwebs evidence to support fast charging does reduce battery life, but on such a minuscule scale it makes little difference to life of the battery. Most LiOn batteries will get 18 months before you see any noticeable degradation.
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skyfox99 said:
There is interwebs evidence to support fast charging does reduce battery life, but on such a minuscule scale it makes little difference to life of the battery. Most LiOn batteries will get 18 months before you see any noticeable degradation.
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iPhone's seems more prone to battery life reduction. My 6S Plus that is 1½ years old got more than double the battery life when exchanging for a new battery recently.
I use oppo find 7 vooc lg g4 qqc3 and nothing problem...
..under 2 years of use..
evo4g63t said:
Heat would be considered the number 1 enemy of battery life, fast charging makes batteries hotter therefore it's not illogical to think that battery life may be reduced using fast charge.
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But if heat kills battery longevity recording 30, 3 min videos in FHD or UHD over a year time would probably affect it also? I know I had my phone auto dim the screen and want to shut down after recording a 3 min video outdoors in 98°f weather this last month. With the warning of phone being too hot
kabirjedi said:
I use oppo find 7 vooc lg g4 qqc3 and nothing problem...
..under 2 years of use..
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2 years is nothing. But again g4 = easily replaceable battery.. I believe industry standard is 10,000 recharges or something like that.
dannejanne said:
iPhone's seems more prone to battery life reduction. My 6S Plus that is 1½ years old got more than double the battery life when exchanging for a new battery recently.
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Iphones are more prone to having problems vs high-end android phones with every situation. Truth told. I am forced to use one at work iphone 6s. And every time I use it m I feel as if I'm going back in time, feels dated and too limiting to me. Even just sharing stuff and using it for work.
Of course heat will damage the battery over time.
But I never experienced that my phone is heating up while charging. So I prefer to plug in my phone when it has 25%, charge it 10min and the plug it out at 80%.
Doing small cycles without fully charging and discharging is way better to the battery than doing 0-100% cycles.
Keeping the battery as full as possible (I have seen it suggested 30% or higher) will increase battery life as it reduces chemical reactions that slowly causing reduced capacity.
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2 years is nothing. But again g4 = easily replaceable battery.. I believe industry standard is 10,000 recharges or something like that.
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OMG 2 years nothing?.AVG smartphone age..
kabirjedi said:
OMG 2 years nothing?.AVG smartphone age..
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I just upgrade from my g3 to the g6. Over 2 years
What about using wireless charging? Could that be damaging to the battery?
On the bright side, it charges slower. So, doesn't get hot. But, it is also a longer process.
LG is giving 2 years of warranty in the US. If it goes for 2 years without losing significant capacity, I am okay with that. Not planning to use the device for more than 2 years.
suhridkhan said:
What about using wireless charging? Could that be damaging to the battery?
On the bright side, it charges slower. So, doesn't get hot. But, it is also a longer process.
LG is giving 2 years of warranty in the US. If it goes for 2 years without significant losing significant capacity, I am okay with that. Not planning to use the device for more than 2 years.
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Wireless charging is hotter than fast charging 90% of the time. Truly
lg3FTW said:
Wireless charging is hotter than fast charging 90% of the time. Truly
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I would say it depends on the charger quality. In my experience, fast charging is way hotter than wireless charging. Specially if the fast charging is done starting at low% in the battery.

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