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Please start a new thread when you put out a new version of your rom.
By the time the second version comes out for the really good roms it's impossible to follow all the issues as there can be upwards of 1000 posts in the thread. Starting at the back doesn't help because of all the "how's your battery life?" posts. Then again, maybe that's the problem.
Anyway, I REALLY appreciate the work you guys do on these roms and kernels. I just wish it were easier to follow the flow of development.
Thanks for listening.
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+1 .... i am with you !!!
+1 . Yeah it so annoying to go through thousands of old threads...
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Moved? Do the people I'm talking to ever look in "general?"
I support this all the way people always tell everyone to use search but you barely ever get what your looking for..
michaelh99 said:
Please start a new thread when you put out a new version of your rom.
By the time the second version comes out for the really good roms it's impossible to follow all the issues as there can be upwards of 1000 posts in the thread. Starting at the back doesn't help because of all the "how's your battery life?" posts. Then again, maybe that's the problem.
Anyway, I REALLY appreciate the work you guys do on these roms and kernels. I just wish it were easier to follow the flow of development.
Thanks for listening.
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Great suggestion. totally agree.
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Moved? Do the people I'm talking to ever look in "general?"
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Well it doesn't have anything to do with developing..
Although you do make a pretty good point, it is a LOT easier just to update the thread with a new download link & change log.
It would also cut down on a lot of clutter in that section.
If you are running an older version of what that dev posted, you shouldn't post bugs unless it didn't say it was fixed in the newest version of what they posted.
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Well it doesn't have anything to do with developing..
Although you do make a pretty good point, it is a LOT easier just to update the thread with a new download link & change log.
It would also cut down on a lot of clutter in that section.
If you are running an older version of what that dev posted, you shouldn't post bugs unless it didn't say it was fixed in the newest version of what they posted.
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Master, your thread specifically is almost impossible to follow because of the almost 10,000 posts in it.
The easy fix to your update example above:
1) go to post for last release
2) hit edit
3) Ctrl-A to select all and Ctrl-C to copy
4) Hit Cancel
5) Open new thread and Ctrl-V to paste
6) edit pasted text and hit preview
7) review the post and make corrections as needed
8) hit submit and wait for the flood
T313C0mun1s7 said:
Master, your thread specifically is almost impossible to follow because of the almost 10,000 posts in it.
The easy fix to your update example above:
1) go to post for last release
2) hit edit
3) Ctrl-A to select all and Ctrl-C to copy
4) Hit Cancel
5) Open new thread and Ctrl-V to paste
6) edit pasted text and hit preview
7) review the post and make corrections as needed
8) hit submit and wait for the flood
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9. Delete the old thread.
I think it's more of a "Let's see whose thread can get the mot posts" type of thing. Because it actually makes little to no sense to update a thread from months ago that is full of non-existent issues and then ask people to search through that thread as if the answer is supposed to jump out at them. Luckily I have given up on trying to read threads.
kangxi said:
9. Delete the old thread.
I think it's more of a "Let's see whose thread can get the mot posts" type of thing. Because it actually makes little to no sense to update a thread from months ago that is full of non-existent issues and then ask people to search through that thread as if the answer is supposed to jump out at them. Luckily I have given up on trying to read threads.
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Well first, you cannot delete your own threads nor close them.
There is a search button in the threads for a reason also..
I guess it could be a thing to get people into saying what version they are on when they report a bug/ask a question..
Just a thought
I have to say I kinda agree with the OP, although obviously from your point of view its just making work.
I run your Axura 2.1 ROM Master, and was feeling a little lag from it here and there. I was looking for one piece of information... "can I use OCLF with this ROM"... had bad experiences with Voodoo in the past.
Man, it was no mean feat to find this out. Eventually, I put the new Voodoo kernel on my phone and its running flawlessly (utterly love this ROM by the way man. Seriously. Better than anything out there by a royal mile), but it was a hugely frustrating process to figure out whether I had any other options. To get a definitive answer. Just to find something simple.
I've often asked people direct questions in PM, and got no response, or at least an unhelpful one. As a technical guy, but not a developer, any questions I have are usually pretty specific, and not newbie in nature, and finding the answer is a massive problem. One of the biggest hurdles to this is 1000+ post threads.
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Master™ said:
Well first, you cannot delete your own threads nor close them.
There is a search button in the threads for a reason also..
I guess it could be a thing to get people into saying what version they are on when they report a bug/ask a question..
Just a thought
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Personally I think the old threads should remain anyhow. They help to keep the versions separate, not everyone upgrades right away. People should post in the correct thread for their version, but right not this is not possible.
Also, the old, dead thread clean up is not the responsibility of the OP, but of the forum admin. I have owned and run many forums. I have used ikonboard, vBulletin, Invision Power Board, MyBB, Phorum, phpBB, and my favorite Simple Machines Forum. All of them have in the administrative back end the option to cleanup old dead threads with no posts with a set time frame.
Problem is rom gets updated, 300 posts of "OMG Thank You, flashing soon!!!!"
They don't care.. The only thing they care about is getting donations. Higher post conts = more attention = more donations. In summary: they do not care
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They don't care.. The only thing they care about is getting donations. Higher post conts = more attention = more donations. In summary: they do not care
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Sorry, gotta call BS on this one. Based on recent events I can guess that you are speaking at least generally if not specifically to Master, and he already addressed (IN THIS VERY THREAD) his thoughts both for and against. In fact so far he has been the ONLY developer to come forward and state he would be willing to do this.
Your statement does not contribute in any way to the discussion at hand, and I personally to not appreciate anyone that posts in running threads just to flamebait and be defamatory. Please check yourself.
I think an easier and better solution exists.
The problem for us the users is that we cannot find which posts relate to which rom version, correct?
The problem for developers if we choose to open a new thread for every release is to follow all 20 threads.
An easy solution would be to have one thread for the rom as it is now, BUT with every update of the rom (and the first page) the developer can add another post with update details at the end of his thread (basically a simple post reply) and put a link to it on the first page in the change log.
This way people viewing the change log will have links to the parts of the thread that discuss that update, while developers won't have 20 threads to maintain.
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Whether you are following 20 threads or the same number of posts in 1 thread the work is the same because you have to reply either way. Also, all versions in 1 thread plus people still using old versions leads to confusion, and confusion equals having to clarify which ultimately means more posts. If you subscribe to the threads and use proper subjects for the thread you should get an e-mail that not only tells you there was a reply, but to which thread version and you can prioritize your replies, ie. Current version I will answer that now, 3 versions back and he can wait until I am done with what I am working on or else he can upgrade. Also since the older threads will get posted to less frequently the chance of multiple posts after the e-mail is less, so if the question is something that was fixed in a newer version you can decide it is not even worth your time to reply. As a developer you can not do that now because there may be many replies after the one that triggered your subscription e-mail that you will not see until you visit the forum.
Trust me, I have run a BUNCH of forums, and 1 thread per version is a better idea for many reasons you have not even thought of yet. If you fully think it out you will realize that it is actually easier to keep track of the 2 or 3 most resent threads people actually pay attention to then try to track the last 2 or 3 versions in 1 thread.
I've run a few big forums too so I do know what im talking about.
With 95% of users upgrade to a newer version of the rom there would be no need to keep the threads for the old roms because no one will write there. But you can't delete them. So instead of having 20 threads with 20 roms, we will have 400 threads for 20 versions of those 20 roms if we follow your idea
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Before people start *****ing about this being a "n00b" question, hear me out.
This forum absolutely SUCKS for learning how to actually do the things that are mentioned here all the time. I've been following this forum every since a I got a tf101 in December, and yet I STILL have yet to see one up-to-date and accurate description on how to root. The current 'how to root' post dates back to December.
I had a tf101 for nine months now and still haven't rooted simply because I've never seen an easy tutorial on how to do so.
Same thing for installing CWM, or for flashing a rom. I've always wanted to do so, and I really want to flash a JellyBean rom today, but I realized that every relevant post is either outdated or not helpful at all.
Please take this as constructive criticism and not as a n00b complaining or asking questions. XDA is a great place with great people, but every single "READ THIS FIRST" post or "BEGINNERS LOOK HER" thread is so convoluted and messy that it's impossible to glean any information from them. Most of them link to twenty other threads that are just as confusing.
I hope this makes sense. I guess I am now obliged to say: "sorry for the noob question"
Thanks,
wontstoptalking
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1688012
Should explain it all.
A little tip to make it easier if your using the XDA app change it to 50 posts per page instead of 10 makes everything easier to take in.
Edit after you get root and recovery id recommend you install goo manager from the app store and install TWRP recovery because using touch trumps key presses on a tablet
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Thanks. Sorry if my OP seems a little harsh or frustrated, but it IS frustrating when you ask a pretty simple question in a thread ("how do I root?") and you get people saying USE THE SEARCHBAR! Which gives you two types of threads: tons of threads telling you how to root in tons of different and potentially outdated ways, and then tons of threads ASKING about how to root (which only get redirected to the searchbar again).
I mean, there are just so many old threads and alternate ways to do things that it's nearly impossible to just figure it out on your own, even with the searchbar.
I've always enjoyed the "always up-to-date" Lifehacker posts, like "The Always Up-To-Date Guide to Jailbreaking"
http://lifehacker.com/5771943/the-a...jailbreaking-your-iphone-ipod-touch-and-ipad-[ios-511]
(link for reference)
Because currently the "READ THIS" posts are really outdated or not very helpful.
Anyway, thanks!
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Ok, so I'm following the EasyFlasher instructions, and there are things I don't understand. What USB mode do I use for the transformer? Do I enable usb debugging? How do I install the APX drivers? I mean, you don't have to answer these, I'm just saying that a definitive guide that is always up to date and consistent would be nice. I'm sitting at the menu that says "flash" afraid to do anything because the thread says that ADB drivers are required, but even when I tried to manually install the drivers it wouldn't work. Do I need the SDK downloaded to do this? That's what one thread seems to indicate, but not the other. This is why XDA drives me crazy sometimes.
Not to jump into your thread too much, but you sound just like I did when I first showed up here wanting to root my tablet. I'd become pretty comfortable rooting my phone and previous tablet but this once had me stumped for a while. The one that worked for me (and made sense to me when when I used it) was viperMOD PrimeTime v4.6 | Auto Root/Unroot/Busybox/CMW Flash. In fact I just mentioned this to some other guy in a different thread. I couldn't get any of the others to work for me but this one did.
My tablet was just updated to ICS (from Asus) when I did it (if that matters).
Rooting is the hardest part in my opinion. Once you have root and a recovery installed flashing to another ROM, or even another recovery, is pretty easy - wipe your caches, select a zip file and reboot. Tada. Rinse and repeat when the 'new thing' comes out.
Rooting is something people usually only do once, then move on so it's generally not a topic people want to revisit, or maybe even remember doing in detail so don't be too put off by XDA's brisk attitude in the General Forums.
grgmre said:
Not to jump into your thread too much, but you sound just like I did when I first showed up here wanting to root my tablet. I'd become pretty comfortable rooting my phone and previous tablet but this once had me stumped for a while. The one that worked for me (and made sense to me when when I used it) was viperMOD PrimeTime v4.6 | Auto Root/Unroot/Busybox/CMW Flash. In fact I just mentioned this to some other guy in a different thread. I couldn't get any of the others to work for me but this one did.
My tablet was just updated to ICS (from Asus) when I did it (if that matters).
Rooting is the hardest part in my opinion. Once you have root and a recovery installed flashing to another ROM, or even another recovery, is pretty easy - wipe your caches, select a zip file and reboot. Tada. Rinse and repeat when the 'new thing' comes out.
Rooting is something people usually only do once, then move on so it's generally not a topic people want to revisit, or maybe even remember doing in detail so don't be too put off by XDA's brisk attitude in the General Forums.
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Thanks a ton for this. I'll look into it. I'm actually gonna try to sell my 101 first, nab a good $250 so I can get a Nexus 7. If I get no buyers, I'll go through with the rooting and flashing (I want to try selling first because if I brick it or something... then I'll have nothing to sell haha).
Again, I apologize if my OP was a bit of an angry, noobish rant... I know that XDA generally hates those. But I do think it is a real problem that it's hard to learn anything on this forum if you have 0 experience to begin with. So for those who helped me out, thanks very much.
I know that since the original ICS update, there were one or two other updates (trying to fix the rebooting problem, I think) and I'm wondering if your root solution will still work for these new updates. I guess you wouldn't know since it doesn't affect you anymore, so I'm just throwing this question out there.
I just went and donated like 10$ so I could download this toolkit for a friend of mine who isn't too well versed in android modding. So I got this for him so he could at least get started and I can teach him the better way of rooting/unlocking, etc etc, using ADB, once he feels a lil more comfortable messing with his phone. I backed up his Nandroid on my computer too just in case
Anyways, I paid the money, I got my activation code, but I dont have a link to where to download it from. When I go back to the site where I donated, it asks me to donate again. I emailed the person, Mark, who emailed me my confirmation/activation code, asking where I am supposed to download it from, but I haven't heard anything. Someone mind filling in the blanks for me. I missed the instructions when they popped up right after completing the donation through paypal. I am trying to do like 8 things as once and i closed the browser right as I realized that those were my instructions.
and I apologize mods if this is in the wrong section, but it was just a general question, and not a Technical Q&A, I always seem to guess wrong half the time lol
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I just went and donated like 10$ so I could download this toolkit for a friend of mine who isn't too well versed in android modding. So I got this for him so he could at least get started and I can teach him the better way of rooting/unlocking, etc etc, using ADB, once he feels a lil more comfortable messing with his phone. I backed up his Nandroid on my computer too just in case
Anyways, I paid the money, I got my activation code, but I dont have a link to where to download it from. When I go back to the site where I donated, it asks me to donate again. I emailed the person, Mark, who emailed me my confirmation/activation code, asking where I am supposed to download it from, but I haven't heard anything. Someone mind filling in the blanks for me. I missed the instructions when they popped up right after completing the donation through paypal. I am trying to do like 8 things as once and i closed the browser right as I realized that those were my instructions.
and I apologize mods if this is in the wrong section, but it was just a general question, and not a Technical Q&A, I always seem to guess wrong half the time lol
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http://www.skipsoft.net/?page_id=1072
go here and download v2.0.0 and update it with activation code you got
achozenone said:
http://www.skipsoft.net/?page_id=1072
go here and download v2.0.0 and update it with activation code you got
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Sorry I meant to post that I figured it out. Thanks bro. For some reason every time I clicked on it before posting this it kept just taking me to the donate page and I couldn't navigate anywhere else but when I tried it from a Google search link then I was able to see the other site navigation options. Got it down loaded and just got my friend to root/unlock and flash recocery on his own. Now its time for him to learn the fine art of nandroid backups and flashing roms lol. Having him test the very early pre-alpha build of my new ROM. Just has basic functionality right now. Phone SMS (no MMS yet) and WiFi. Havent picked a 4G modem for it yet. And am working on my first kernel as well. Among other things. I am a musician and I wanna make a rom that has options/customizations that are geared towards musicians. Working on my first app which will be mix of tools for guitarist including a tuner, metronome and links to sheet/tab sites. I wish there was a way to include guitar pro functionality without having to go through all the licensing hoops but dems the brakes.
Thanks again bro.
First I get a call about my friend who got something downloaded on her phone rebooted and bricked it.
She didn't had the option to allow it or nothing.
I guess that the BL needs to be upgraded...
Then I sat down with my rooted I9506 and I started to see what was wrong. Why was it complaining about memory full etc.
And then I saw a LOT of apps has just vanished...
Original post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48320189&postcount=1402
I feel ****ing paranoid but this is back on while. I KNOW that those apps where installed. It's from my standard-dir.
Will check if they even are left there...
I wish I was high, hallucinated, paranoid or a pathological lieer but I'm much but not anything of those. I just have those two things black on white.
Question is if I should try to reflash it or not?
Moved as this does not belong in the Developer Section, even more so, doesn't belong in the Developer Discussion [Developers-Only].
Apparently I can't post in developer threads and I don't have time to make 10 posts right now so this is going here. I have a rooted s5 and there are a couple of things I would like to do that I have been unable to figure out thus far.
1) I use google hangouts, unlike messaging, hangouts doesn't show text messages on your lock screen. Has anyone been able to find a way to make hangouts do that as of yet? If so, how?
2) Has anyone been able to give the fingerprint scanner a better lockout feature? The scanner can be iffy at times and I hate being locked out from doing anything for 30 seconds every time I screw it up. I'm looking to get it to do more like apple, where after a certain number of attempts you have to enter your password.
Thanks guys
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Apparently I can't post in developer threads and I don't have time to make 10 posts right now so this is going here. I have a rooted s5 and there are a couple of things I would like to do that I have been unable to figure out thus far.
1) I use google hangouts, unlike messaging, hangouts doesn't show text messages on your lock screen. Has anyone been able to find a way to make hangouts do that as of yet? If so, how?
2) Has anyone been able to give the fingerprint scanner a better lockout feature? The scanner can be iffy at times and I hate being locked out from doing anything for 30 seconds every time I screw it up. I'm looking to get it to do more like apple, where after a certain number of attempts you have to enter your password.
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I will try to answer your questions:
1. I don't think hangouts can do that. Try using lockscreen notification apps like Dashnotifier.
2. Fingerprint sensor acts weird sometimes. You have to bear with it. Although an update to lollipop will make it quite better
Give a thanks if I have helped you!
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Apparently I can't post in developer threads
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This doesn't belong in development sections. It belongs in Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting. FYI. :good:
I believe it fits in developers means neither of these are options to change and I would like to use root access to change the code in the phone to allow it.
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I believe it fits in developers means neither of these are options to change and I would like to use root access to change the code in the phone to allow it.
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it does not, your asking a question so it belongs in O&A section
You're not allowed to discuss development of apps and functions in the developers section? That's strange.
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You're not allowed to discuss development of apps and functions in the developers section? That's strange.
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Yea "Discuss" development
If you have a Question, you ask in the Q&A forum
There is a big difference between discussing something, and asking questions
"Discuss" = Understand, converse, and help with
"Question" = Do not understand, and can not help with, thus, needs to be in Q&A
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Yea "Discuss" development
If you have a Question, you ask in the Q&A forum
There is a big difference between discussing something, and asking questions
"Discuss" = Understand, converse, and help with
"Question" = Do not understand, and can not help with, thus, needs to be in Q&A
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Ok, let's try it this way. I do understand. But if somebody has made something to change these features there is no reason for me to do anything. If not, I would like to discuss possible options on how to do this. Does this work for you? Or are you going to continue to argue this?
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Ok, let's try it this way. I do understand. But if somebody has made something to change these features there is no reason for me to do anything. If not, I would like to discuss possible options on how to do this. Does this work for you? Or are you going to continue to argue this?
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I think you need to wind your neck in kiddo, new to the forums and talking back to senior members will not do you any favours,
Now, you were wrong, you were corrected, accept it and man up by moving on, stop acting like a child by trying to have the last word
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2340983
Only the following topics are allowed in DEVELOPMENT area:
[DEV] - Development for any special projects or Apps
[ROM] - Custom ROMs
[KERNEL] - Custom Kernels (usually found in Original Development)
[MOD] - Hack & Modifications for the phone with code only, zips go in themes and apps
[FIX] - Fixes for known issues & bugs
[R&D] - Research & Development for Devs only, when gathering data for a new projects
[HOWTO] / [GUIDE] - How to instructions and Guides (Most of the time should be in General)
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All I am trying to say is that I think this fits in developers section, actually under that mod section you just quoted. I would like to edit the code of this phone to allow me to have these features.
And I would appreciate it if you didn't treat every new member on here like some bumbling idiot. 'accept it and man up by moving on, stop acting like a child by trying to have the last word.' Considering the last post's definition of posts for the developer's section had exactly what this post is intended to be under "mod" I'm just pointing out that it fits there.
We've had a reasonable answer to the questions at post one, given in post two.
The conversation has moved on to what is appropriate to post in "development" forums and this can't really go anywhere as both sides have made their cases known very clearly.
For the record, the current position is that Development forums are mainly for development that has actually started and developers are involved, it is not for discusion of hypothetical development and "wouldn't it be nice if...." type discussions. Occasionally developers might discuss a matter in advance of more detailed scripting/coding, but for it to go in "development" it would need to be a developer level technical discussion not a wish list of things in the hope a developer might get involved.
Mike