[Q] Asking confirmation : S4+CWM+Knox = 0x1 - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin

Hi,
I'm a new S4 (i337M) owner, I had a S2 but it broke.
I saw a couples of warning about the Knox BS from Samsung and I want to be sure that I understand everything.
My Android Version is 4.3 MK6 . In the download mode, I have the knox 0x0 . If I install the CWM Recovery, is it possible to keep the 0x0 or it will trip to 0x1 ? My phone is rooted but I want to do a nandroid backup before playing with mods and roms and I think that it's not possible without a custom recovery.
If I trip knox to 0x1, I know that I will not be able to use the knox option (and I don't give a sh_t about Knox) but if it's possible to do a nandroid without tripping the 0x0, it will be nice
Thanks guys !

Yes, if you flash CWM, your Knox will trip to 0x1, and your warranty will be void.
No, you cannot do a Nandroid without a custom recovery, which means you will trip your Knox counter.
Yes, you CAN root your MK6 without tripping Knox, it just will not give you custom recovery options.

ve6ay said:
Yes, if you flash CWM, your Knox will trip to 0x1, and your warranty will be void.
No, you cannot do a Nandroid without a custom recovery, which means you will trip your Knox counter.
Yes, you CAN root your MK6 without tripping Knox, it just will not give you custom recovery options.
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First of all, big thanks for your fast reply !
My S4 is rooted ( I did it an hour after I had the phone ) , so if I have a Knox 0x1 and if I don't care about the know feature and about the phone's warranty, do I will be able to flash customs roms and original roms ?

I have the same problem!!!
maxflay said:
First of all, big thanks for your fast reply !
My S4 is rooted ( I did it an hour after I had the phone ) , so if I have a Knox 0x1 and if I don't care about the know feature and about the phone's warranty, do I will be able to flash customs roms and original roms ?
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I have an AT&T S4 that has a tripped Knox counter(0x1). I have no problems gaining root access. I have used Odin 3.10, Heimdall, Casual, and Loki to try to obtain a custom recovery such as CWM or TWRP, but none of these worked. I'm starting to think that if the Knox counter is tripped, the container for Samsung's Knox software is locked forever and you can never flash a custom recovery. Someone PLEASE tell me I'm wrong and there is a way to flash custom recovery with a 0x1 counter tripped.

seanswiggett said:
I have an AT&T S4 that has a tripped Knox counter(0x1). I have no problems gaining root access. I have used Odin 3.10, Heimdall, Casual, and Loki to try to obtain a custom recovery such as CWM or TWRP, but none of these worked. I'm starting to think that if the Knox counter is tripped, the container for Samsung's Knox software is locked forever and you can never flash a custom recovery. Someone PLEASE tell me I'm wrong and there is a way to flash custom recovery with a 0x1 counter tripped.
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On the SGH-I337, any bootloader more recent than the original MDB or MDL are locked in such a way that you can not load a custom kernel or a custom recovery. You are limited to root, safestrap, and Samsung Touchwiz based firmware. As far as I know, it has nothing to do with knox.
Incidentally, the original MDB and MDL bootloaders were locked as well, but LOKI exploited a flaw in the bootloader code which allowed custom kernel and custom recovery to be installed. This flaw was removed starting with the MK2 and newer bootloaders.

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[Q] Once you have a KNOX bootloader you can't have a custom rom?

If you have a KNOX bootloader you can have a custom ROM or not?
I know that it will trip the KNOX flag but can you still use a custom ROM.
Thanks
yeah. the only difference is that it voids your warranty even if you unroot.
Yes you can have a custom ROM.
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Were would be the best place to start?
I have a knox bootloader which is probly already tripped.
I attempted to flash clockworkmod and got greeted with a Samsung unauthorized software and it wouldn't work.
My phone is fine right now with a stock recovery so what custom recovery do you use or how do you get around this?
I'm use to nexus devices.
Edit: I used CF Auto Root and now i have a 0x1 warranty status. Now it appears clockworkmod is working.
Thanks for your help

Geohot root and Recovery

Anyone tried a custom recovery (or rom) after rooting with towelroot without tripping knox?
We should have an unlocked bootloader, will it make some differences?
Custom recovery/kernel will trip knox even with towelroot.
Confirmed here. G900W8. Tripped KNOX with TWRP.

How do you know if you tripped KNOX?

I went into download mode and there was nothing about knox 0x0 or 0x1. It does however, say "system status: custom" and when I rebooted, it says "custom" on the samsung flash with an unlocked lock. I followed the instructions from rootjunky and I seem to have root, but as for knox and my warranty, I'm not sure if I screwed up big time.
Edit: Okay, so I did a bit more searching and I guess "system status: custom" doesn't have anything to do with knox so I'm okay? Also, what caused this? towelroot, supersu, rootchecker? I still would like to know I can tell if I tripped knox though.
Chowlz said:
I went into download mode and there was nothing about knox 0x0 or 0x1. It does however, say "system status: custom" and when I rebooted, it says "custom" on the samsung flash with an unlocked lock. I followed the instructions from rootjunky and I seem to have root, but as for knox and my warranty, I'm not sure if I screwed up big time.
Edit: Okay, so I did a bit more searching and I guess "system status: custom" doesn't have anything to do with knox so I'm okay? Also, what caused this? towelroot, supersu, rootchecker? I still would like to know I can tell if I tripped knox though.
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I believe it will say Knox Warranty Status Void or Warranty Bit 0x1, either way you will know if you tripped it in download mode. Towelroot dose not trip knox. As for custom status having root and having a modified system will cause this. It will return to Official when you Odin back to stock with no root.
Misterxtc said:
I believe it will say Knox Warranty Status Void or Warranty Bit 0x1, either way you will know if you tripped it in download mode. Towelroot dose not trip knox. As for custom status having root and having a modified system will cause this. It will return to Official when you Odin back to stock with no root.
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Awesome! Thanks for the reply!

[Q] Help, I'm 15 and want to unroot and restore to factory settings

Hi, i have note 3 sm n9005 or something and rooted my phone for some stupid reason, its still on stock the only thing that i think happened was i have supersu, i paniced and factory reset, now supersu has a error thing with something to do with binary settings or something. All i want to do it fully reset my phone, if its any help im british with EE... does flashing supersu trip knox counter? Am i actually rooted for if i were to flash stock? Will that trip it? Iv knly had phone few months and im scared... if i flash stock can i then update legally coz i cant update because the device is modified? I used odin... can someone help please, i know nothing and yes, i should look into what im doing more before hand. Can you explain everything and what to do please? Every little thing, please and without tripping knox and as if it was out the box new. Please
Firstly, flashing SuperSU trips KNOX. In the first place, to install SuperSU you need a custom recovery which would ALSO trip KNOX. Flashing back to stock unroots your phone too.
If you are convinced that you have not tripped KNOX, just re flash your phone back to stock with ODIN.
This_Guyse said:
Firstly, flashing SuperSU trips KNOX. In the first place, to install SuperSU you need a custom recovery which would ALSO trip KNOX. Flashing back to stock unroots your phone too.
If you are convinced that you have not tripped KNOX, just re flash your phone back to stock with ODIN.
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I dont have a clue what i first did but what i did magically apeared with supersu. Can i flash stock which will get rid of supersu and can i reset my knox counter? And am i actually rooted seen as i factory reset?
MarkDyer1 said:
I dont have a clue what i first did but what i did magically apeared with supersu. Can i flash stock which will get rid of supersu and can i reset my knox counter? And am i actually rooted seen as i factory reset?
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Flashing stock will get rid of SuperSU and root but you cannot reset KNOX. It is permanently 0x1 and will always be.
This_Guyse said:
Flashing stock will get rid of SuperSU and root but you cannot reset KNOX. It is permanently 0x1 and will always be.
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What about the fact i factory reset? Is it still rooted to flash stock? And doesnt it have to be a unrooted stocked rather than flashing rooted stock? And where do i got stock and do i need to unzip files and stuff?
MarkDyer1 said:
Hi, i have note 3 sm n9005 or something and rooted my phone for some stupid reason, its still on stock the only thing that i think happened was i have supersu, i paniced and factory reset, now supersu has a error thing with something to do with binary settings or something. All i want to do it fully reset my phone, if its any help im british with EE... does flashing supersu trip knox counter? Am i actually rooted for if i were to flash stock? Will that trip it? Iv knly had phone few months and im scared... if i flash stock can i then update legally coz i cant update because the device is modified? I used odin... can someone help please, i know nothing and yes, i should look into what im doing more before hand. Can you explain everything and what to do please? Every little thing, please and without tripping knox and as if it was out the box new. Please
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Reboot in download mode I. E. Volume down+home+power, check the knox counter if it's 0x1 then it has already been tripped and you have been set free ?? and if it's 0x0 you are still locked in a cage.
Report back with what you see.
saadramiz said:
Reboot in download mode I. E. Volume down+home+power, check the knox counter if it's 0x1 then it has already been tripped and you have been set free ?? and if it's 0x0 you are still locked in a cage.
Report back with what you see.
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I know i have done something coz when i want to update it says this device has been modified. But i havent flashed any roms so surely knox should be 0x0 and flashing stock keeps it 0x0 doesnt it?
MarkDyer1 said:
I know i have done something coz when i want to update it says this device has been modified. But i havent flashed any roms so surely knox should be 0x0 and flashing stock keeps it 0x0 doesnt it?
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Yes, if your Knox is still 0x0, flashing stock keeps it 0x0.
Use Phone INFO ★Samsung★ app to check for the Knox Warranty Void status (in the GENERAL INFO section).

Flashing a recovery

I have rooted my S4 without tripping KNOX. If I would flash a custom recovery using flashify and use said recovery to install a custom ROM, would it trip KNOX?
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It says that the binary is unofficial, but knox is still 0x0

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