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Socket SDIO WLAN card in I-Mate II

hi all,
Can't seem to get the Socket SDIO card working on my I-Mate II. Everywhere I look it seems like it requires SDIO NOW from bSquare but yet some posts say they get it working.
Anyone had any luck on this with a repeatable process documented?
Thanks!
Randall

Re Socket WiFi SDIO card
I had the same problem, but it's working fine now. First, get the latest driver software from Socket and install it. Then insert the card and wait several minutes until the wireless icon appears on the top bar. This will list available wireless networks in a bubble. Select the one you want and select to connect to the internet. It will then ask for the WEP key, if you need one, which you should enter as hex or ASCII. It should now be working.
Hope this helps!
Paul

Yeah I already did that one . I had it working for a little while last night but can't seem to get it going again.

Update: SDIO Issues
Hi all,
Where I have discovered something interesting. If you broadcast the SSID, then you can connect without issue using the Socket SDIO card. ( I assume it will be the same thing for the SanDisk Card as well)
I couldn't connect to anything until I started broadcasting the SSID. And here at work today I can connect to the AP's that broadcast and those that don't I can't no matter what I do.
Do I smell a bug here? :-D

i always seem to get a problem of not receiving an ip address from my linksys router. as soon as i put a static address in, restarted, reset it, restarted again, it worked...

Re: Update: SDIO Issues
sysmgtsrv said:
Hi all,
Where I have discovered something interesting. If you broadcast the SSID, then you can connect without issue using the Socket SDIO card. ( I assume it will be the same thing for the SanDisk Card as well)
>How do i access & broadcast SSID ? I have a SanDisk SDIO WLAN and i am experiecing problems now with access public access hotspots which i never did. The IP assigned to me are always the same despite having resetted my XDAII. Thanks sir.
I couldn't connect to anything until I started broadcasting the SSID. And here at work today I can connect to the AP's that broadcast and those that don't I can't no matter what I do.
Do I smell a bug here? :-D
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hihi something to share with u all, me also having the same problem of not able to connect with my linksys router with SSID broadcast disable. I tried with both sankdisk n socket driver, both also can't work. But i have no problem with getting any ip from my router

In short:
The SocketIO 802.11b SDIO Card, like most 802.11b devices, will not connect without either enabling SSID Broadcast on the Access Point OR manually specifying the SSID in the setup of the wirless profile of the connecting device (the XDA in this case).
In not so short:
In infrastructure mode (connection from Client to Access Point (AP)), the client sends all traffic to the AP. The access point acts as an ethernet bridge and forwards the communications onto the appropriate network–
either the wired network, or the wireless network. Prior to communicating data, wireless clients and access points must establish a relationship, or an association. Only after an association is established can the two wireless stations exchange data. In infrastructure mode, the clients associate with an access point. The association process is a two step process involving three states:
1. Unauthenticated and unassociated,
2. Authenticated and unassociated,
3. Authenticated and associated.
To transition between these three states, the communicating parties exchange messages called management frames. All access points transmit a beacon management frame at a fixed interval. To associate with an access point and join a BSS, a client listens for beacon messages to identify the access points within range. The client then selects the BSS to join in a vendor independent manner. For instance in Windows XP, all of the network names (or service set identifiers (SSID)) which are contained in the beacon frame are presented to the user so that they may select the network to join. A client may also send a probe request management frame to find an access point affiliated with a desired SSID.
After identifying an access point, the client and the access point perform a mutual authentication by exchanging several management frames as part of the process. The two standardized authentication mechanisms are Open System Authentication and Shared Key Authentication.
After successful authentication, the client moves into the second state, authenticated and unassociated.
Then the client sends an association request frame, and the access point responds with an association response frame, which moves us from the second state to the third and final state, authenticated and associated.
After following the process described, the client becomes a peer on the wireless network, and can transmit data frames on the network.
The problem is, if the SSID is not being broadcasted in the beacon frame, the client does not know who to respond back to. By specifying the SSID the client will then be able to establish communication.
Thats my understanding of the process/problem anyway.
Note: In my experience 802.11g is not subject to this limitation, my guess would be 802.11g uses the AP's MAC address in addition to the SSID (if enabled) in management frames/association.
Hope this helps..
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speedolite said:
hi something to share with u all, me also having the same problem of not able to connect with my linksys router with SSID broadcast disable. I tried with both sankdisk n socket driver, both also can't work. But i have no problem with getting any ip from my router
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Off topic - Wireless - What am I doing wrong?

Pardon me because this isn't entirely a Wizard specific questions although I am able to replicate the problem with my Cingular 8125 (new ROM) 100% of the time.
I'm not a stupid person. I've setup numerous wireless networks for corporations and home users. I always use WEP or WPA and never unencrypted (no) security.
In most situations, the wireless router does NOT supply the DHCP to the clients. It usually comes from another DHCP server on the same LAN segment. Typically, this is a Windows server although it could be a DHCP-assigning device, such as a Cisco router.
PCs have no trouble seeing the wireless network and connecting to it and getting addresses assigned to them. For a while, I couldn't do this on WPA security but upgrading firmware and software on the laptops (usually Dell) rectified this.
With my Wizard, both old and new ROMs, I can SEE the wireless networks and connect to them but I can NEVER get an IP address. It tries and tries and fails and fails and eventually gives up. (Yes, the Cingular proxy is turned off)
Yet, at the airport or other public places with free wireless, I have no problems connecting my Wizard to the access point and surfing away. Thus, I know its not (entirely) a Wizard issue. Of course, these public access points aren't encrypted which could be one of the reasons but I doubt its the only one.
As a test, I just built a new wireless router with a SSID (other than "default") and security turned on (WPA) and let the router act as the DHCP server. Wizard connected in seconds and was surfing away. So the obvious next question is: why doesn't this work when the wireless router ISN'T the DHCP server? Other machines (laptops and such) have no problem connecting to one wireless router and getting a DHCP address from another box yet my Wizard cannot.
I've tested this with D-Link and Belkin wireless routers (consumer-grade).
I've seen other people post that they cannot get their wireless to work on their Wizard and while the fix may not be on the side of the Wizard, I think others may be in the same boat I'm in so I'm hoping that maybe we can compare enough stories to narrow this down so that we CAN use our Wizards wirelessly!
Ken

Confusing...
maybe you should try assign a fix ip to your pocket's wifi adapter and see if it would work. or just let the wlan security turn OFF on your access point to see what would happen.
i guess that the network protocol stack is slightly different between a PC and a PPC, which limit the DHCP request route.

I have just purchased the Wizard, aka o2 XDA Mini S, and use it with my Belkin Wireless Access Point (WPA-TKIP Enabled, DHCP & NAT disabled) and Cisco ADSL Router (DHCP Server) without any problems.
I have assigned the Belkin Wireless Access Point a fixed IP address however, but I don't think this would make a difference.
The other thing I found was that the Wizard would not connect correctly to the Belkin using WPA with AES encryption, but switching it to WPA with TKIP works flawlessly.

Well, I suppose its encouraging that others with the same wi-fi routers are getting this to work but its discouraging that I'm having so much trouble!
Fixed IP does work (therefore, its unlikely a Wizard-only problem) but obviously a fixed IP doesn't let me roam from one hotspot (home) to another (work) very easily.
Haven't tried it sans-security yet although that might just prove a point, rather than be a perminant solution. I have tried WPA-PSK and WEP with the same (negative) results.

I personally have found that unless I change the power settings for the WiFi adapter to full power, its hit or miss.
Never have a problem maing connections, geting leases, etc with it there.
YMMV though
Regards - John

prob irrelevent
i found that before i active sync'd. the wireless monitor on my wizard showed a strong signal from the router. then after it synced, it picked up an IP from the servers dhcp fine.
also for lightweight simple security i use mac address filtering on the AP

hotel room without wireless

Anyone know how to convert CAT5 Cable to wireless in the Hotel room. I love to bring my PDA with me , when I travel. But, I found a problem to using the internet in most of the hotel.
Problem: Most hotels only have CAT5 network , when you plugin your notebook computer, you have to go to the login page to login. But when you using PDA(wireless). The question is how to use the internet?. If you bring a wireless rounter with you. When you plugin . how to make it found the hotel login page on your PDA?

Easiest method is to buy a Wireless bridge. Linksys sells these. Its a device that will tern an Ethernet Cable into a wireless signal.

I travel a great deal and although there are a great number of ways to deal with this issue...this is how I get around it.
I bought one of the little Dlink pocket routers like this one for a great price (less than $30). What you can do with this product (and others I'm sure...) is clone the MAC address of your laptop's ethernet port. Basically...it'd work like this...
1.) Plug your laptop into the hotel network.
2.) Jump through their proxy hoops to get out onto the net.
3.) Unplug the cable from the hotel network and into the pocket router.
4.) From the router's config pages...set the NIC to clone your laptop's MAC address.
5.) Plug the hotel network into the pocket router WAN port.
Badda bing! You're sharing their network wirelessly...doesn't take a lot of time at all. I've really enjoyed the Dlink one I got...small...flexible...and it comes with a nice travel case. Linksys (or Cisco now), Apple, and others all make similar products and some of them have the benefit of not needing a power adapter and just plugging straight into the wall outlet (a big benefit IMHO), but I can't speak for exactly what kind of functionality they provide versus the Dlink product as I've never used them.
By the way...a bridge will not help you do what you want...you need at least an AP...but if you get one of the devices like I mentioned...you get the added benefit of a NAT firewall between your device and the hotel LAN (which can be a very good thing by the way).

I can't see why you can't just plug in a standard access point via the WANport. Set the internet connection to Automatic DHCP.
Then the first time you access the net it will be ready for logging in.

eangulus said:
I can't see why you can't just plug in a standard access point via the WANport. Set the internet connection to Automatic DHCP.
Then the first time you access the net it will be ready for logging in.
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Because many hotels control access to their internet connections by utilizing various methods but most often by controlling access via MAC addresses. Think filtering a wireless connection by only allowing certain MAC addresses... Now...if an AP allowed MAC address spoofing...then I certainly don't see why just an AP wouldn't work just as well (other than the fact that you don't get the benefits of a router).
By the way...this topic is certainly not Hermes specific and should likely be moved to a more appropriate forum.

One note should be made.... If the hotel is using NAT to assign IP addresss, and you use a second NAT with your router... you may not be able to use various VPN clients. Double NAT'ing doesn't work for many IPSEC VPN clients. i.e. AT&T NetClient
A number of switch vendors offer the ability to limit each port on their switch to allow traffic to one MAC address per port. A bridge would show multiple MAC addresses and typically when the switch sees that, the port is automatically shut down. This is done in many cases where there is a $10-15 a day charge for internet access and the hotel doesn't want you setting up an AP to share the cost with your travel mates. Thus they limit to one MAC address per port. The router solution would show up with only one MAC address... but you then have the double NAT issue in some cases. If you are not using a VPN, that may not be a problem.
Just some additional data points to consider.

I love the linksys travel router - more expensive then their mini router (about the same size) except for 2 things that are key for me. First, it's powersupply is embedded and 110-220v and 2 - it let's you connect it to a hotel wireless hotspot and then share that hotspot over wifi. This is great - it means that 4 people with rooms next to each other can share the fee of the hotspot and share it. It also means I can share that same hotspot with my phone! The only downside on this one over the mini router is it only has one wired out jack but that's no big deal for me!

Note that plugging a router into a network jack when the site in question is set up to use DHCP can cause some havoc on the network. I doubt many hotels are savvy enough to start hunting around for rogue routers when people in the hotel can no longer get IP addresses, but bear in mind that it's always a possibility. It's probably not a good idea to leave something like this plugged into the network longer than necessary.
Also note that whenever I've encountered a location where the establishment requires you to log into a web page in order to access anything, I've had no problem doing that from the Hermes.

Doom Tints said:
Note that plugging a router into a network jack when the site in question is set up to use DHCP can cause some havoc on the network. I doubt many hotels are savvy enough to start hunting around for rogue routers when people in the hotel can no longer get IP addresses, but bear in mind that it's always a possibility. It's probably not a good idea to leave something like this plugged into the network longer than necessary.
Also note that whenever I've encountered a location where the establishment requires you to log into a web page in order to access anything, I've had no problem doing that from the Hermes.
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The one I mentioned only asigns an IP to people on it's end and not outside - it even uses it's own IP range. It is designed to be transparent to the existing network.

Yes, I know. However, depending upon the network setup, this can still cause problems.
For example, some versions of Symantec's 'On Command/CCM' (a suite for pushing software updates to computers automatically when they are booted on the network) can communicate with some routers in such a way to where the router thinks it needs to try to provide one of its IP addresses to the network. This invariably ends up having a computer in some random place on the network ending up with a 192.168.x.x IP. When an admin sees this, he/she knows that there is a rogue router on the network.

Alot of work... as you know these hotel internet connections are controlled. If you're posting here use that 3g or even edge instead of giving the hotel your credit card to have a field test (is that a ppc program?) or field day with.

Doom Tints said:
Yes, I know. However, depending upon the network setup, this can still cause problems.
For example, some versions of Symantec's 'On Command/CCM' (a suite for pushing software updates to computers automatically when they are booted on the network) can communicate with some routers in such a way to where the router thinks it needs to try to provide one of its IP addresses to the network. This invariably ends up having a computer in some random place on the network ending up with a 192.168.x.x IP. When an admin sees this, he/she knows that there is a rogue router on the network.
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Well I doubt this will happen in most hotel networks and aside from that - I doubt that there is hardly ever a network admin on hand 99.9% of the time

The Linksys Travel Router is the product I'd highly recommend as I've been using it around the world for some years now.
It has a hardware switch that let's you control its functionality. In one position, the Wired Ethernet is simply converted to Wi-Fi and once you connect, you still get the IP from the hotel's DHCP server. If you need to share the connection with more systems (such as your laptop and your phone or with some colleagues in adjacent rooms), you just switch to another mode after logging in to the hotel's network and the Linksys becomes a NAT router and gives you a private IP.
It also comes with a nice travel case...

SayMobile said:
The Linksys Travel Router is the product I'd highly recommend as I've been using it around the world for some years now.
It has a hardware switch that let's you control its functionality. In one position, the Wired Ethernet is simply converted to Wi-Fi and once you connect, you still get the IP from the hotel's DHCP server. If you need to share the connection with more systems (such as your laptop and your phone or with some colleagues in adjacent rooms), you just switch to another mode after logging in to the hotel's network and the Linksys becomes a NAT router and gives you a private IP.
It also comes with a nice travel case...
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That's the device I've been talking about - the only thing I add to the kit is a european outlet adapter (which fits nicely inside the coiled ethernet cable included

Wifi Tethering to a wifi router / network

A picture is better than 1000 words.
For an application I'm trying to get this configuration working:
Is this possible or not?

WiFi Tethering to a WiFi Router / Network
Yes, IF your wifi router will accept wifi as an input.
If all of the devices need to be on a network OTHER than your cell phone, then yes, you need a router. The router will have to accept wifi as it's source.
If all of the devices can be on the same wifi network as your cell, then you can get a wifi repeater or range extender. Repeaters "extend" the range that wifi will reach. I don't see that as an issue here as should be able to place your cell phone well within range of your other wifi-enabled devices.
I don't immediately see why you can't have all of the devices connect to your phone directly, but I don't know anything about the application you are working on.
What I cannot say is whether this setup could bypass the number of wifi devices your service provider limits you to. I know my hotspot (Verizon) limits you to five concurrent.
I hope I've answered your question and I've helped. BTW - your picture was perfect!

Thank you for your explanation.
This is a very specific setup.
The router is an Airlink NMini and I carry in my pocket. It has to be near my camera for the wifi connection to work. I get a lot of interference from wireless equipment on my photoshoots. The Wifi router is trong enough to overpower the interference (only when used in B-mode). It's hooked up to a 5 volt power pack.
Close to me I have an Android tablet for quick selecting the right images, then the images are copied over to a remote laptop that is used by my colleage to edit the images.
I needed the internet connection for sending the processed images to a ftp server or dropbox, so my clients can download the images.
I tried using the router as a relay/bridge, but couldn't get that to work. Maybe it's possible, but that's higher networking config.
I finally got it to work by connecting the phone to the laptop using usb.
Configured the laptop for ICS connecting the USB-internet connection to the wireless router. Had to set ip adresses manually, becaue the dhcp of the router did not transmit the correct gateway. But as there are only 2 devices attached, that's not a problem after documenting this change.
So I'm good to go for our next photo assigment. Case closed.
Sent from my Transformer TF101

Sweet setup man

[Q] Wifi issue. New findings?

Hello, been a long time reader from my G1 to my G2 and now my nexus 4.
I am unfortunately not able to use my device on certain wifi networks which is a real bummer.
Being that i have a background in diagnosing computer problems in my real world life, i thought i would post my findings as i found some interesting things!
First i will say that the network i will use as the demonstration is secured with WPA2 PSK AES security and encryption.
I can connect to it and often find i have problems on the first connect to the network. By this i mean if i have made my wifi settings 'forget the network' and then try to connect again.
On the first time it seems to indefinitely hang, showing the message 'authenticating' on screen next to the network and if i long press on the network name and press modify, the dialog shows that i have a link speed of 1mbps.
I can usually get past this by turning wifi off and on and then reconnecting, at which point it will connect straight away and have a normal link speed. (in this example 72mbps).
After i am connected, i find that the following does not load:
-browsing webpages through chrome does not load
-the wifi icon turns grey
-play store cannot load anything
I find that i get assigned an ip address by dhcp correctly too with the right gateway and dns.
I decided to download a network tool to have a better look. I use fing personally.
I found it very interesting what i found, which no other threads about wifi issues mention.
Network discovery found every device on the local wifi network.
I was able to scan the services of my computer which is also on the network and it found everything, including a http server which i run which i could browse to.
In fact i could do everything through wifi with this device and most others.
Again it got interesting when I then took a look at my gateway, the router.
I had discovered its mac address which i can verify through my computer is correct which to my understanding, being that i can communicate through the wifi, means that i have the information available to send information to that physical device?
When trying to scan services, i find nothing, which is not true, at the very least it exposes a http server on port 80 which my computer can access.
When trying to ping i have 100% packet loss.
So at this point it is only the gateway i cannot access.
So i figure i could setup another computer which is connected to the network with a wire to share its connection through wifi onto that network and then i have a standin gateway?
I connected this computer through wifi to the network and pinged it succesfully with my phone. I then turn ICS on my wired adaptor to share to my wifi adaptor. I ensure that the wifi maintains an ip address in the right range and subnet.
I then try to ping that ip with the phone and it then gets 100% packet loss.
Could this be that when a device is configured to act as a gateway something changes about how it handles any packets sent to it that the nexus 4 is currently in compatible with?

elltg said:
So at this point it is only the gateway i cannot access.
So i figure i could setup another computer which is connected to the network with a wire to share its connection through wifi onto that network and then i have a standin gateway?
I connected this computer through wifi to the network and pinged it succesfully with my phone. I then turn ICS on my wired adaptor to share to my wifi adaptor. I ensure that the wifi maintains an ip address in the right range and subnet.
I then try to ping that ip with the phone and it then gets 100% packet loss.
Could this be that when a device is configured to act as a gateway something changes about how it handles any packets sent to it that the nexus 4 is currently in compatible with?
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I have found a bit of a workaround that i can use!
When i said i turned on the wifi and ICS i did the following:
-Turned on wifi.
-Connected to wifi network.
-Turned on ICS on my wired network to share to my wifi
-Observed that my ip changed from 192.168.10.x to 192.168.137.1 with no gateway or dns.
-I decided to change my ip on the wireless to 192.168.10.x and gateway to my router 192.168.10.10
-I then tested.
I ran through this again but slightly different:
-Turned on wifi.
-Connected to wifi network.
-Turned on ICS on my wired network to share to my wifi
-Observed that my ip changed from 192.168.10.x to 192.168.137.1 with no gateway or dns.
-I decided to change my ip on the phone to 192.168.137.5 with gateway and dns as 192.168.137.1
-I then tested. And it works!
I know this doesnt fix the wifi issue itself, but for me, this makes a big difference as i can now use wifi at work where we also have poor mobile network coverage.
Edit:
Additionally i previously tried to setup this same computer to host a wifi network to share the connection using 'netsh' and creating a 'hostednetwork' but i found i was in the same situation where i still couldnt get the internet.