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Samsung working on eMMC hardbrick fix...or not ?

Does anybody know what Samsung is doing about hardbrick issue ?
Latest news from Daniel Hillenbrand was on Jun 8 (He contacted Samsung and:
Patches will be out in form of new official ROMs and also sourcecode releases after testing, which might take some time
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source: Daniel Hillenbrand Google +
Yesterday, Entropy512 said:
Even secure erase is not 100% guaranteed to cause damage. It turns out it will only cause damage when the eMMC is in a certain specific state. (I unfortunately can't elaborate on the specifics as that is proprietary information) - However it explains why some people manage to wipe even in CWM without damage.
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I don’t want any details, but after reading all the threads, information from Ken Sumrall and posts on Samsung official support forums, I think that they don’t want to admit, that there’s a problem with their eMMC chips. I know that it is almost impossible to recreate brickbug situation on stock devices - so there is no problem for Samsung at all (custom rom - not their problem) .
I just don’t know what to think – Samsung is currently Rolling-out the Official ICS 4.0.4 Update for Galaxy S2 and we all know, that each of them contains unsecure kernel (all they need to do is disable emmc_cap_erase, right? )
I may be wrong, maybe fix is a lot more complex than just disabling emmc_cap_erase in kernel, but this is the difference between secure and unsecure kernel…so why they didn’t ? Everyone knows about eMMC bug, but Samsung is rolling out new updates and don’t care…

Its Simple They moved on .......
They dont want to spend their time and energy on this phone instead they are thinking about s4 or galaxy note 2

No, they are not. It's so simple to fix hardbrick bug... But Samsung is not interested at all, and seems that it's a computer working on the builds, not real people, since they still releasing this crap. Samsung super fail.

They just don't care and why should they?
The stock Firmwares are noobproof, but if some geeks from XDA D) flash custom Roms its already not their business because a usual customer never even get accidentally into a recovery where he could wipe the phone.
So, they say users fault. Why invest $$$ for a few people who already figured out themselves how to avoid that bug on an "old" device.
Business.Simple as that.

Testraindrop said:
They just don't care and why should they?
The stock Firmwares are noobproof, but if some geeks from XDA D) flash custom Roms its already not their business because a usual customer never even get accidentally into a recovery where he could wipe the phone.
So, they say users fault. Why invest $$$ for a few people who already figured out themselves how to avoid that bug on an "old" device.
Business.Simple as that.
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Actually its also their loss as they fix the bricked devices under warranty
No one will tell "I flash a ROM from xda and bricked my phone" to the service center guys
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I think there is a fix - I heard a couple XDA members saying that they've got a PIT file to fix the problem. Though all it does is make a new /data partition, and you lose a bit of your space (8GB instead of 11GB)

epic118 said:
I think there is a fix - I heard a couple XDA members saying that they've got a PIT file to fix the problem. Though all it does is make a new /data partition, and you lose a bit of your space (8GB instead of 11GB)
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That's not a fix. Just a workaround to get the device up and running
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Is there a way to downgrade from 4.4.2 into 4.3 in the near future?

Hi guys. Ive been reading a lot about this one. And i find it very imposible to do right now. I saw some thread here regarding to this one that im posting right now. So my main concern is is there a way to downgrade this kitkat into jellybean? Put aside note 3 for now. Does it work on other phones as well? Because i really dont like the new kitkat and i want to go back from 4.3. Yeah yeah i did some research regarding to this because of the new bootloader. I really hope that we can be able to downgrade.

gidzdlcrz said:
Hi guys. Ive been reading a lot about this one. And i find it very imposible to do right now. I saw some thread here regarding to this one that im posting right now. So my main concern is is there a way to downgrade this kitkat into jellybean? Put aside note 3 for now. Does it work on other phones as well? Because i really dont like the new kitkat and i want to go back from 4.3. Yeah yeah i did some research regarding to this because of the new bootloader. I really hope that we can be able to downgrade.
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No... Samsung give out updates, they don't expect you to downgrade.... Besides, the upgrades are supposed to add performance and remove security exploits.... Why would they allow you to go back to something that's not so well protected and possibly damage your device that then gets fixed under warranty....

Yes officially. You can't downgrade. But im asking is there a way or in the near future that we can go back to jellybean? Again lets put aside note 3 for now since it is still new. Lets think.... Note 2! For example i updated to 4.4.X as well. Can i go back to 4.2.1?

God almighty. .why would you want to. ..who wants to go backwords. ..If you do...why did you go forwards. .I loved the escort mark 2 but I sure as hell wouldn't swap my focus for one... (the only way this might not apply is with women lol):thumbup:
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NO, for the 10000000th time. Please learn to read before posting next time, thank you.

Mate for the 10000000th time, everyone read your question and is trying to explain that downgrading the software of a smartphone is stupid. Especially true for the Note 3, 4.3 to 4.4.
The only reason you might want to downgrade, is that you want to put CM on your device. In which case ask so. It is unlikely that you will be able to downgrade, more likely CM will get support for the new BL

Its a fair enough question to ask. I would also like a dafe way to downgrade to install things like CM. IMO its a control thing. One that I dont like. But it is what it is.
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NOZX said:
Its a fair enough question to ask. I would also like a dafe way to downgrade to install things like CM. IMO its a control thing. One that I dont like. But it is what it is.
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It was fair enough, the first time, but every ****ing question is this one! People should learn to read/use the search button/use Google.

NOZX said:
Its a fair enough question to ask. I would also like a dafe way to downgrade to install things like CM. IMO its a control thing. One that I dont like. But it is what it is.
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Did you even read the post befors you?

AlecRobertson said:
It was fair enough, the first time, but every ****ing question is this one! People should learn to read/use the search button/use Google.
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You should learn to post nothing if this question sucks for you.
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By the way. May it is possible. Not right atm but in near future. We have to get the correct fast boot access to unlock the bootloader. Then we have to flash a file called flashall. This file is already under construction by myself but it's tricky. After this file flashed successfully we are able to flash an original bootloader from former rom.
So u see its possible. Only have to wait for a dev or anybody else who can give me fast boot access.
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Let's just be calm about this I agree we won't be seeing official downgranding but for one I would downgrade to 4.3. Android is all about choices and preferences that is one of the differences from ios we get to choose customize down to the bone...Why something older and propably not better some people have their reasons. Some people prefer that old chevy or challenger from a new mercedes I don't know. I for one miss lights effect from 4.3 the lockscreen effect. I was on stock rom unrooted and it had this effect then rooted upgraded to 4.4.2 poland and it didn't have it got a little disapointed. I agree that 4.4.2 is a better os and also agree that my reason for wanting to downgrade is somewhat stupid but that's the beauty of android from the start you get it exactly how you want it today in the world of android os we are made unable to downgrade tomorrow who knows? The liberty of choice in this os is getting smaller and smaller day by day...

Ok ok
Um
No
U
Can
Not
Do
It.
Y??
It's a permanent change to the bootloader that cannot be downgraded.
If that's hard to understand then I don't know what to tell you.
But seriously read a little
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Geez. Some who are not reading backwards. Anyway thanks for your reply guys. I would hit thanks who deserved it.

My Gosh......2 pages for a simple answer "NOT POSSIBLE" !!!.......Added one more post to this meaningless saga of "ifs" & "buts" !!

testmonkey1 said:
Mate for the 10000000th time, everyone read your question and is trying to explain that downgrading the software of a smartphone is stupid. Especially true for the Note 3, 4.3 to 4.4.
The only reason you might want to downgrade, is that you want to put CM on your device. In which case ask so. It is unlikely that you will be able to downgrade, more likely CM will get support for the new BL
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There are more reasons to downgrade. After upgrading to KitKat my phone is messed up bad. I got reboots all the time now. I never rooted, I never installed ROMS. All is plain stock. If someone would offer me a working downgrade I would even consider paying this person for it. My phone is unreliable right now.

Cootje_NL said:
There are more reasons to downgrade. After upgrading to KitKat my phone is messed up bad. I got reboots all the time now. I never rooted, I never installed ROMS. All is plain stock. If someone would offer me a working downgrade I would even consider paying this person for it. My phone is unreliable right now.
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More infos. Wich fw do you flash, Wich phone you got? Sm-n9005, 900x, 900w8, Hong Kong edition?
What does your phone do?
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Mguttsche said:
More infos. Wich fw do you flash, Wich phone you got? Sm-n9005, 900x, 900w8, Hong Kong edition?
What does your phone do?
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I try not to hijack this thread. You can find my information in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=49921664&postcount=23

Consensus seems to be that you can't downgrade the Samsung Note 3 kit kat bootloader, which prevents downgrade to Jelly bean .
On other makes, e.g HTC it is possible to downgrade bootloader and Android, providing you've got S Off
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My friend galaxy note 2 is downgraded to jellybean 4.3 from kitkat 4.4.2
What he did is flash using odin and factory reset twice after got bootloop.
But I am not suggest you to do it, even though i want to do it as I feel kitkat battery life is getting worst.
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My friend galaxy note 2 is downgraded to jellybean 4.3 from kitkat 4.4.2
What he did is flash using odin and factory reset twice after got bootloop.
But I am not suggest you to do it, even though i want to do it as I feel kitkat battery life is getting worst.

I believe OP didn't try to ask same question a millionth time. What he tried to ask was, will there be a method to downgrade to JB? If that's the case it's very unlikely. In theory of course software changes can be reversed but sometimes it needs some hacking and I don't think anyone will think it's worth the effort.

downgrade confirmation

hello guys
I have a sm-n900.....it came upgraded to kitkat in the box
although the performance of the phone is mind blowing but I feel it is a battery draimer......and also I read reviews on net that people with jellybean used to have their battery last more than one day with usual udage but in my case it is only upto 16-17 hrs
I thought of downgrading to jellybean and went to service cemtre where they told me that downgrading in not possible in note 3
I then searched at home and found it is bit complicated and if we do we may loose update to kitkat if we want afterwards
like in my earlier s2 (i9100) and note (n7000) I could flash any firmware anytime
but wat to do downgrade this to jellybean without loosing the possibilities of update to kitkat

plz someone
I know people are here having far big issues compared to mine
but I would be really happy is someone would guide me through this

anikanu said:
hello guys
I have a sm-n900.....it came upgraded to kitkat in the box
although the performance of the phone is mind blowing but I feel it is a battery draimer......and also I read reviews on net that people with jellybean used to have their battery last more than one day with usual udage but in my case it is only upto 16-17 hrs
I thought of downgrading to jellybean and went to service cemtre where they told me that downgrading in not possible in note 3
I then searched at home and found it is bit complicated and if we do we may loose update to kitkat if we want afterwards
like in my earlier s2 (i9100) and note (n7000) I could flash any firmware anytime
but wat to do downgrade this to jellybean without loosing the possibilities of update to kitkat
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you cant downgrade at all
just not going to happen sorry bud

anikanu said:
plz someone
I know people are here having far big issues compared to mine
but I would be really happy is someone would guide me through this
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The reason you are not getting any response is because this question has been asked 59 billion times a day since KK rolled out, and the other million plus members who are aware of it are restraining themselves through giant facepalms.
In short, no, there is no way to downgrade.

donalgodon said:
The reason you are not getting any response is because this question has been asked 59 billion times a day since KK rolled out, and the other million plus members who are aware of it are restraining themselves through giant facepalms.
In short, no, there is no way to downgrade.
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mate do you math its 58 billion times a day lol :silly:

jaythenut said:
you cant downgrade at all
just not going to happen sorry bud
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donalgodon said:
The reason you are not getting any response is because this question has been asked 59 billion times a day since KK rolled out, and the other million plus members who are aware of it are restraining themselves through giant facepalms.
In short, no, there is no way to downgrade.
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jaythenut said:
mate do you math its 58 billion times a day lol :silly:
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so can I root the phone and move to some other custom kernel based rom and then flash jellybean via odin
wat wud happen if I do it using odin.....will it hardbrick or some apps wont work.....plz tell...I know its annoying but plz

anikanu said:
so can I root the phone and move to some other custom kernel based rom and then flash jellybean via odin
wat wud happen if I do it using odin.....will it hardbrick or some apps wont work.....plz tell...I know its annoying but plz
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Forget jelly beans you can never go back all it will do is Bootloop

donalgodon said:
The reason you are not getting any response is because this question has been asked 59 billion times a day since KK rolled out, and the other million plus members who are aware of it are restraining themselves through giant facepalms.
In short, no, there is no way to downgrade.
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and I see that u r using same ohone rooted
whuch method did y follow and also is der any prob in handling og the phone after rooting
and can u go back to stock unrooted again to restorr warranty and reset binary counter

jaythenut said:
Forget jelly beans you can never go back all it will do is Bootloop
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u mean I cant even go to cm10.2 too

anikanu said:
u mean I cant even go to cm10.2 too
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No, you can't

anikanu said:
and I see that u r using same ohone rooted
whuch method did y follow and also is der any prob in handling og the phone after rooting
and can u go back to stock unrooted again to restorr warranty and reset binary counter
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I rooted via CF-AutoRoot (as my signature indicates below) and there were no problems. For me, KitKat is working perfectly in every respect.
No, you cannot reset the Knox binary trigger. I could not possibly care any less about it at this point in time.
I plan to use the device until something better comes along, then sell it, so why worry about it?

donalgodon said:
I rooted via CF-AutoRoot (as my signature indicates below) and there were no problems. For me, KitKat is working perfectly in every respect.
No, you cannot reset the Knox binary trigger. I could not possibly care any less about it at this point in time.
I plan to use the device until something better comes along, then sell it, so why worry about it?
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so now if u visit samsung
what page the officials would open in order to see ur knox counter

Pierre118 said:
No, you can't
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how r u having knox still 0 even after rooting

anikanu said:
how r u having knox still 0 even after rooting
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You need to do some searching on the site. All these questions have answers that have been gone over and over.
Early 4.3 users could root their phone but Knox gets tripped. RDLV method worked then without tripping Knox up till MJ3 of 4.3. Anything above that as stock and Knox gets tripped. KitKat goes one step further in that you cannot revert to 4.3 at all, even if you are willing to trip Knox.
You can root the phone but AFAIK (I haven't bothered with KK - my phone runs brilliantly on v6 (4.3) Omega) you trip Knox anyway you do it.
Knox 0x1 may or may not doom your warranty - somecountries have laws that say Samsung cannot quirm out of hardware problems by claiming software changes. You may or may not care about Knox. Mine is a grey import from HK that I had all kinds of fun getting over to a non-freaky ROM, so when it eventually triggered Knox I didn't give a toss. I did root the phone with RDLV and changed ROMs several times before something that shouldn't have, tripped the Knox bit.
Now there is about as brief a history as you will get. Use what is in it to go search and find any more complete answers.
Always search before asking basic questions - at the least it means you will be able to ask intelligent questions, not ones you can find by looking at the titles of recent posts in Q&A forums.

anikanu said:
so now if u visit samsung
what page the officials would open in order to see ur knox counter
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They'd just boot to Download mode and see the Knox flag.
I don't care about it, honestly. If I ever need warranty assistance, I'd just hope for the best, but since it's Samsung, I'd expect the worst.

Journyman16 said:
You need to do some searching on the site. All these questions have answers that have been gone over and over.
Early 4.3 users could root their phone but Knox gets tripped. RDLV method worked then without tripping Knox up till MJ3 of 4.3. Anything above that as stock and Knox gets tripped. KitKat goes one step further in that you cannot revert to 4.3 at all, even if you are willing to trip Knox.
You can root the phone but AFAIK (I haven't bothered with KK - my phone runs brilliantly on v6 (4.3) Omega) you trip Knox anyway you do it.
Knox 0x1 may or may not doom your warranty - somecountries have laws that say Samsung cannot quirm out of hardware problems by claiming software changes. You may or may not care about Knox. Mine is a grey import from HK that I had all kinds of fun getting over to a non-freaky ROM, so when it eventually triggered Knox I didn't give a toss. I did root the phone with RDLV and changed ROMs several times before something that shouldn't have, tripped the Knox bit.
Now there is about as brief a history as you will get. Use what is in it to go search and find any more complete answers.
Always search before asking basic questions - at the least it means you will be able to ask intelligent questions, not ones you can find by looking at the titles of recent posts in Q&A forums.
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donalgodon said:
They'd just boot to Download mode and see the Knox flag.
I don't care about it, honestly. If I ever need warranty assistance, I'd just hope for the best, but since it's Samsung, I'd expect the worst.
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I may be annoying u guys
but what I understand from till now is dat I wont get the privileges of the phone as I used to get in xperia live and sgs2 and maybe what I will use be the stock rom
btw I have still not downloaded the app data of knox which is of 170mb.....wat do u guys suggest should I do it or let it be
and 1 last question that is der any way to have mass storage mode.....as in mtp we dont see the files and folders starting with (.) and I have many imp stuffs on my sd which have their starting with a . and u all know that in mtp we dont see such files and folders.....so is der any way to have the mass storage mode back
plz answer......I know I annoyed a lot.....but plz

You should be able to use another mode. When you connect via USB, swipe down the Notification bar and there should be a Notify there you can tap to choose other modes.
You might need to go into Build Number (Settings/About Phone) and tap 7 times to turn on Developer mode and then turn on USB Debug. (not sure as that's always one of the first things I do)
Unless you are the only person on the planet who sees a need for Knox, you don't need to DL anything to do with Knox. Check in Application Manager and see if you can turn all of it off.

Journyman16 said:
You should be able to use another mode. When you connect via USB, swipe down the Notification bar and there should be a Notify there you can tap to choose other modes.
You might need to go into Build Number (Settings/About Phone) and tap 7 times to turn on Developer mode and then turn on USB Debug. (not sure as that's always one of the first things I do)
Unless you are the only person on the planet who sees a need for Knox, you don't need to DL anything to do with Knox. Check in Application Manager and see if you can turn all of it off.
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I also have enabled developer options due to my habit of doing in cm roms in previous phones
but on usb connection there are only 2 modes
media transfer protocol
camera protocol
mass storage is missing

donalgodon said:
I plan to use the device until something better comes along, then sell it, so why worry about it?
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Interesting question. Do you find you can easily sell your rooted/modified phones?
I'm always concerned that people won't want to buy a rooted phone that's potentially been flashed 100+ times with possible excessive CPU over-clocking etc. I always try to put the phone back to stock (or as close as possible) before I sell it on.
Is it just me who feels those concerns?

Medical HRH said:
Interesting question. Do you find you can easily sell your rooted/modified phones?
I'm always concerned that people won't want to buy a rooted phone that's potentially been flashed 100+ times with possible excessive CPU over-clocking etc. I always try to put the phone back to stock (or as close as possible) before I sell it on.
Is it just me who feels those concerns?
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Well, in my region, the vast majority of buyers don't even know what root is, so it's never been an issue for me. I don't expect that to change anytime soon. The Note 3 doesn't show any issues at all when reflashed unless Knox flag is tripped. Even then, the only "issue" is the warranty bit flag shown in Download mode and the loss of Knox container, which almost nobody uses. Out of a 100 buyers, you might find one that knows what root is and less than that who know how to get to Download mode, and even fewer who'd potentially use Knox, so no, not a problem.

AT&T Galaxy Note 4 Modding

Hi All,
I did some searching around and couldn't find any specific "dark" custom ROMs available for my AT&T note 4 phone specs. Did I miss any that have already been created for the below specs or should I continue waiting to see if any will appear in the near future?
My Phone Info :
Model Number : SM-N910A
Android Version : 5.0.1
Baseband Version : N910AUCU2COC6
Kernel Version : 3.10.40-4160876 / [email protected] #1 / Thu Jul 30 12:30 KST 2015
Build Number : LRX22C.N910AUCU2COC6
KNOX Version : 2.3

zdarkangel said:
Hi All,
I did some searching around and couldn't find any specific "dark" custom ROMs available for my AT&T note 4 phone specs. Did I miss any that have already been created for the below specs or should I continue waiting to see if any will appear in the near future?
My Phone Info :
Model Number : SM-N910A
Android Version : 5.0.1
Baseband Version : N910AUCU2COC6
Kernel Version : 3.10.40-4160876 / [email protected] #1 / Thu Jul 30 12:30 KST 2015
Build Number : LRX22C.N910AUCU2COC6
KNOX Version : 2.3
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Unfortunately, AT&T NOTE 4 comes with a locked bootloader and there is no known root exploit for it yet and no custom roms available. you can discuss this here on at&t specific sub forum http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-att

dork997 said:
Unfortunately, AT&T NOTE 4 comes with a locked bootloader and there is no known root exploit for it yet and no custom roms available. you can discuss this here on at&t specific sub forum http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-att
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Oh gosh, that's not good! I just got a new Note 4 assuming I would be able to apply a custom ROM to it. Would I at least be able to theme the current stock ROM to a dark one, or does that also need rooting (not sure if the XPosed app needs it)?
I was looking at these two threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/official-xposed-lollipop-t3030118
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/themes/guide-t2978121
Thanks.

zdarkangel said:
Oh gosh, that's not good! I just got a new Note 4 assuming I would be able to apply a custom ROM to it. Would I at least be able to theme the current stock ROM to a dark one, or does that also need rooting (not sure if the XPosed app needs it)?
I was looking at these two threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/official-xposed-lollipop-t3030118
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/themes/guide-t2978121
Thanks.
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Yes Xposed needs rooting, you can't get dark theme without root....closest you can get is by installing a custom launcher.

dork997 said:
Yes Xposed needs rooting, you can't get dark theme without root....closest you can get is by installing a custom launcher.
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There are custom launcher that tweak the system ui to apply themes? The ones I have seen so far seem to only alter the home screen/app drawer configs. Do you know any that actually tweak the colors for the system ui? Also, what do you think about some of those custom launcher apps requesting access to a whole lot of system files on the phone (like pictures/contacts/bluetooth/gps/etc.)? I feel like those permissions may be more than what's needed for the app to function, or am I just being paranoid?
Thanks.

zdarkangel said:
There are custom launcher that tweak the system ui to apply themes? The ones I have seen so far seem to only alter the home screen/app drawer configs. Do you know any that actually tweak the colors for the system ui? Also, what do you think about some of those custom launcher apps requesting access to a whole lot of system files on the phone (like pictures/contacts/bluetooth/gps/etc.)? I feel like those permissions may be more than what's needed for the app to function, or am I just being paranoid?
Thanks.
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No there is no launcher which would tweak system ui. But they help alot as far as home screen and app drawer are concerned. Two of the launchers i trust myself and recommend are APEX launcher and Nova launcher they have been there for ages and people trust them with whatever permissions they require.

dork997 said:
No there is no launcher which would tweak system ui. But they help alot as far as home screen and app drawer are concerned. Two of the launchers i trust myself and recommend are APEX launcher and Nova launcher they have been there for ages and people trust them with whatever permissions they require.
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Thank you for the launcher recommendations. I guess I'll have to wait until Note 4 rooting has been developed. Just hoping that the awesome devs continue to figure out a method for rooting/modding the AT&T Note 4.

zdarkangel said:
Thank you for the launcher recommendations. I guess I'll have to wait until Note 4 rooting has been developed. Just hoping that the awesome devs continue to figure out a method for rooting/modding the AT&T Note 4.
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I'm not trying to be negative, but it seems that devs have given up on our ATT Note 4 until maybe the next OS version comes out (IF it does). That would be Marshmallow.
It's just that no progress has been made, except for temp root (unroots randomly) that only works on Kitkat. Since Lollipop, ATT patched our phone so that we can't even go back to Kitkat in order to temp root.
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spexwood said:
I'm not trying to be negative, but it seems that devs have given up on our ATT Note 4 until maybe the next OS version comes out (IF it does). That would be Marshmallow.
It's just that no progress has been made, except for temp root (unroots randomly) that only works on Kitkat. Since Lollipop, ATT patched our phone so that we can't even go back to Kitkat in order to temp root.
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I really hope that isn't totally the case. I wish I could learn how to crack this as well and figure out how to root along with other devs. Otherwise I would have to live with with the battery sucking/bloaty background apps, and I'm not really happy with that.

zdarkangel said:
I really hope that isn't totally the case. I wish I could learn how to crack this as well and figure out how to root along with other devs. Otherwise I would have to live with with the battery sucking/bloaty background apps, and I'm not really happy with that.
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Well, on the ATT Note 4 forum, there's a whole thread dedicated to disabling any app, whether system, user, or bloat. Just look for the debloater thread.
And we had a ton of very skilled devs taking cracks at the phone, but they could never bypass write protection. The bootloader is locked down tight. Eventually, temp root was achieved on KK, but still, write protection couldn't get bypassed.
Then Lollipop came, and not even temp root could be achieved. Then update OC5 and OC6 came to patch Stagefright and no one could downgrade to KK without bricking their phone.
Since LP first arrived though, all devs seemed to just vanish as though they had just given up.
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Well, on the ATT Note 4 forum, there's a whole thread dedicated to disabling any app, whether system, user, or bloat. Just look for the debloater thread.
And we had a ton of very skilled devs taking cracks at the phone, but they could never bypass write protection. The bootloader is locked down tight. Eventually, temp root was achieved on KK, but still, write protection couldn't get bypassed.
Then Lollipop came, and not even temp root could be achieved. Then update OC5 and OC6 came to patch Stagefright and no one could downgrade to KK without bricking their phone.
Since LP first arrived though, all devs seemed to just vanish as though they had just given up.
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What about normal carrier free 910c. Can you downgrade from lollipop to kitkat on that?

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What about normal carrier free 910c. Can you downgrade from lollipop to kitkat on that?
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Yes, but you won't need to unless you just prefer Kitkat over Lollipop. The C model is fully rootable on Lollipop because it doesn't have a locked bootloader. This also means custom kernels and roms.
The only thing you'd need to do is check that the phone supports all the frequencies needed by your carrier.

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Well, on the ATT Note 4 forum, there's a whole thread dedicated to disabling any app, whether system, user, or bloat. Just look for the debloater thread.
And we had a ton of very skilled devs taking cracks at the phone, but they could never bypass write protection. The bootloader is locked down tight. Eventually, temp root was achieved on KK, but still, write protection couldn't get bypassed.
Then Lollipop came, and not even temp root could be achieved. Then update OC5 and OC6 came to patch Stagefright and no one could downgrade to KK without bricking their phone.
Since LP first arrived though, all devs seemed to just vanish as though they had just given up.
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Thanks for that tip. I did a quick search as you mentioned and found some recommendations on how to turn off some of the bloatware on the note 4. (In case someone else wants to quickly view those threads, here's what I searched for to figure out what can be turned off: http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=389213192, as spexwood mentioned).
Was doing more research after that, and I came across these articles: http://www.pc-tablet.com/2015/10/09...droid-60-marshmallow-update-release-date.html and http://www.sammobile.com/2015/10/09...on-android-6-0-marshmallow-for-these-devices/. Maybe by the end of the year the AT&T Note 4 will have the Marshmallow OS.

zdarkangel said:
Thanks for that tip. I did a quick search as you mentioned and found some recommendations on how to turn off some of the bloatware on the note 4. (In case someone else wants to quickly view those threads, here's what I searched for to figure out what can be turned off: http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=389213192, as spexwood mentioned).
Was doing more research after that, and I came across these articles: http://www.pc-tablet.com/2015/10/09...droid-60-marshmallow-update-release-date.html and http://www.sammobile.com/2015/10/09...on-android-6-0-marshmallow-for-these-devices/. Maybe by the end of the year the AT&T Note 4 will have the Marshmallow OS.
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The Note 4 is definitely supposed to get 6.0. Just remember that ATT will typically release the update 2-3 months after Samsung (international models). This is because ATT will need to install their bloatware and check that everything works on the n910a. I have no doubts that we will get it... just when is the question.
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Does it worth to root the Note FE?

I thinks that we are going to face software instability if we did so. Right ?
I dont think that we need any other custom rom .
So i am thinking of just rooting without installing any custom rom . If i will , it will be only For the z sake of using TWRP.
What is bothering me the silence of all Note FE forum .. no news .. nothing at all . What do you think !!

Limitation number of sold phone is the reason. Even with stock phone, we dont have software support like S7e. Anyway, its ur choice. And would like to use Samsung services in their mobile device so i keep it non root.

kongacute said:
Limitation number of sold phone is the reason. Even with stock phone, we dont have software support like S7e. Anyway, its ur choice. And would like to use Samsung services in their mobile device so i keep it non root.
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Thanks. But I used to root my old note 3 with no problems in Samsung apps , also I got updates every time when I revert back to the original software. And as you said : there is no support beside updates are always very late.

nesoor1230 said:
Thanks. But I used to root my old note 3 with no problems in Samsung apps , also I got updates every time when I revert back to the original software. And as you said : there is no support beside updates are always very late.
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It's Samsung my friend, the worst in supporting their devices including old flagships

nesoor1230 said:
Thanks. But I used to root my old note 3 with no problems in Samsung apps , also I got updates every time when I revert back to the original software. And as you said : there is no support beside updates are always very late.
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That popular than the Note FE. And at the time of Note 3, there is no huge difference between root and non root about Samsung services. So u can compare these device. I also used S4 and my opinion is try to use Samsung device that official release in your country and not root it if u not have another High end Samsung Device ?

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So i am thinking of just rooting without installing any custom rom . If i will , it will be only For the z sake of using TWRP.
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What's the reason that you want root? I don't find it necessary at all.

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What's the reason that you want root? I don't find it necessary at all.[/QUOTE
You are right .. but for me maybe Because There is no updates, nothing new ,, and for some more customization, also to be able to install some apps like tytinum back up. I am missing TWRP . Thanks anyway
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nesoor1230 said:
treysis said:
What's the reason that you want root? I don't find it necessary at all.[/QUOTE
You are right .. but for me maybe Because There is no updates, nothing new ,, and for some more customization, also to be able to install some apps like tytinum back up. I am missing TWRP . Thanks anyway
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It's up to u. With customization, there will have substratum for that (at least it enough for most of people). With backup, u have cloud and SmartSwitch. And uptake, i think it really not necessary as Samsung Firmware is really good enough for most of situations. Basically, i dont see anything better if rooted Note FE.
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nesoor1230 said:
Thanks. But I used to root my old note 3 with no problems in Samsung apps , also I got updates every time when I revert back to the original software. And as you said : there is no support beside updates are always very late.
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root on older samsung phones like the note 3 is very different from how it affects the phone with modern samsung devices. you will lose access to Samsung Pay, Samsung Members, and Google Pay

r3xx3r said:
root on older samsung phones like the note 3 is very different from how it affects the phone with modern samsung devices. you will lose access to Samsung Pay, Samsung Members, and Google Pay
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Google pay will work even if you are rooted ,thanks to magisk

Scorpionea said:
Google pay will work even if you are rooted ,thanks to magisk
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But Google Pay wont have large number of accept place. Samsung Pay have large number of accepted place. Google Pay wont be affected by root. Samsung Pay, root mean lost forever.
So i think it will be very hard to decied root flagship Samsung device.

Unless you are a software developer there is no reason to actually root a modern android device. As the latest version of Android is pretty efficent.

Root is not really important for android user today. I just wonder why there are so few custom roms for note FE lol..

Root is for customization. Nowdays theres option to customize even if ur device is not rooted.

This is the only android device which I have not rooted as I find not that helpful as most of the feature and customization which we use to get through the root are already available even in the low spec phone

oleonit said:
Root is not really important for android user today. I just wonder why there are so few custom roms for note FE lol..
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Lol I haven't found any. Just got my FE about 2weeks ago
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Guys .. unbelievable Our Note FE have received PIE . Its working great . Congratulations for all fe owners.