[Q] LTE and building penetration - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Anyone suggests rooting my Nexus 4 (with Tmobile) to enable LTE, to help with some data drop offs I'm experiencing indoors? My service is great outside at work but inside is a different story, didn't know if LTE would help with that? Thanks for any help.

My TMo LTE on my Nexus 4 with Stock ROM/Franco r203 is great. Outside I can get 30-35Mb/ down versus around 20-25Mb/ down inside. Extremely consistent and smooth for me.

Tmo LTE is the same frequency as their hpsa network. I'd guess this means building penetration would be similar. I don't think all towers are upgraded to lte so I get less bars in general with LTE. That said, even with 0-1 bars on LTE I can pull down pretty good speeds in the high single digits.
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Anyone missing LTE

For those that had LTE prior to jumping ship to the Nexus 4 are you missing it? I mean I currently have the Iphone 5 through AT&T with LTE coverage and I must say it does feel nice be quickly stream video instantly life for example Youtube videos don't buffer at all for me. I think that is the only negative thing for me in regards to switching over but I would like to hear from anyone else as to if its LTE really a game changer or have or have' got used to live with out LTE anymore.
N4 has LTE
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Well from what I have heard LTE works with Nexus 4 on AT&T but someone can correct me on that as I'm up here in Canada. I have noticed a big diff in streaming and what not but my speeds on 3G were manageable compared to what I hear ATT 3G is like?
Plus those with their Nexus 4 on T-Mobile's HSPA+42 are getting close, or even higher than LTE speeds so they're not entirely unsatisfied. I personally don't have LTE, but those are just my 2ยข
doug0365 said:
For those that had LTE prior to jumping ship to the Nexus 4 are you missing it? I mean I currently have the Iphone 5 through AT&T with LTE coverage and I must say it does feel nice be quickly stream video instantly life for example Youtube videos don't buffer at all for me. I think that is the only negative thing for me in regards to switching over but I would like to hear from anyone else as to if its LTE really a game changer or have or have' got used to live with out LTE anymore.
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Not a game changer... I don't have to wait for videos to buffer. Hell, I downloaded 200MB's of data in mere minuets..
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N4 has LTE
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What I have read so far that LTE is only available if you live in an area that has AWS band 4 for AT&T which in my case I don't live in such area so no the nexus 4 might have an LTE chip but is half baked so this is why I posed the question as to those who would be leaving LTE behind for the nexus 4 are you satisfied with drop in data speed?
Phoenix, Raleigh, San Juan, Los Angeles, Las Vegas, Oklahoma City, Dallas, Chicago, Charlotte. Also Athens, GA and College Station, TX.
This doesn't mean that AT&T's Band 4 LTE network is actually live in these markets.
LTE tariffs in the UK are a joke. Loads of money for tiny data caps. I am on unlimited data 3g and I regularly top 20mb down. Happy as Larry.
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As I'm on wifi 99% of the time I rarely use LTE on my Rezound. Only thing I did notice is that when Verzion updated the towers in my area for LTE I finally got decent reception in my house.
I had a Thunderbolt when Verizon's LTE network went live so I was one of the few that got to experience the 50mbps speeds before the network was as big/full as it is now.. And really T-Mobile HSPA+42 in Chicago isn't the worst thing in the world. Hell I was getting by on AT&T GoPhone speeds for a while.. It really isn't a huge deal. Also AT&T band 4 LTE is only confirmed live in like, Oklahoma.
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[Q] Nexus 4 on T-Mobile keeps dropping signal?

I have my nexus on T-Mobile $30 dollar plan (1500 minute/text split-30 mb of data)
I recently came from the HTC thunderbolt on Verizon and I found that my coverage was great. I had a solid LTE connection everywhere I went.
However, on the Nexus 4, I expected decent speeds and at least coverage everywhere in my house.
Now, I found that my battery life takes a hit and I don't receive text messages on time because my Nexus keeps dropping signal.
i just got a new sim card about 4 days ago. Coverage in my house (according to T-Mobile coverage map) should be good-excellent, but I still see my signal drop for a few seconds, then it'll pick back up to 1-2 bars.
I downloaded No Signal Alert and here's a few logs.. You can see that I can't hold a steady connection for more than a few minutes.
What can I do maintain a steady signal? Most of my friends around here that use T-Mobile get at least 2-4 bars steadily. Some parts of my house I get no signal, then sometimes I get full bars.
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Have anyone solved this problem yet? I just got my from tmobile and signal drop like crazy.
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Nexus 4 supports HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
So, I would imagine the Nexus 4 will do 1900 first. However this band is crap comparing to 1700/2100 band where it has better coverage, plus it has better building penetration. I was trying to use the tmo $30 prepaid too on my old L9, but it crapped out on the Nexus 4, so I switched to Net10.
So, switch carrier.
I have tmobile to in Florida on mine and I get full signal drops left and right as well. Not sure wtf is up.
Try a difference radio. I had some drops on the .33 and .48 ones but no drops on the .27 one.
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[Q] Bad T-Mobile Signal, Anything I can do?

So, I have a Nexus 4, and T-Mobile ($30/month prepaid). I live in the south-western part of PA. I'm in my house currently, and have full bars, no problems there.
I was at work earlier (inside), and had no signal at all. Outside I have like 1-2 bars, sometimes. I'm in the same town too, and the area seems to be in a more elevated area as well.
When I tried searching for mobile networks, I did notice AT&T showed in the list, but not T-Mobile. Perhaps this means AT&T has better coverage in my area than T-Mobile? Is there anything I can do to improve signal on my-end, like flashing different basebands? I was on the latest (.48 I think) earlier when I experienced this, but I flashed down to .33 now. Still full bars in my house, but I'll have to wait till tomorrow to verify if it actually changes anything.
I like T-Mobile, so I would prefer to keep using their service, but I do need some kind of cellular at work :/ I don't think AT&T offers anything like T-Mobile's $30/month prepaid plan either, for that cheap anyway.
Edit: T-Mobile's Coverage map shows green for my entire town and neighboring towns, for 2G/Voice.
espionage724 said:
So, I have a Nexus 4, and T-Mobile ($30/month prepaid). I live in the south-western part of PA. I'm in my house currently, and have full bars, no problems there.
I was at work earlier (inside), and had no signal at all. Outside I have like 1-2 bars, sometimes. I'm in the same town too, and the area seems to be in a more elevated area as well.
When I tried searching for mobile networks, I did notice AT&T showed in the list, but not T-Mobile. Perhaps this means AT&T has better coverage in my area than T-Mobile? Is there anything I can do to improve signal on my-end, like flashing different basebands? I was on the latest (.48 I think) earlier when I experienced this, but I flashed down to .33 now. Still full bars in my house, but I'll have to wait till tomorrow to verify if it actually changes anything.
I like T-Mobile, so I would prefer to keep using their service, but I do need some kind of cellular at work :/ I don't think AT&T offers anything like T-Mobile's $30/month prepaid plan either, for that cheap anyway.
Edit: T-Mobile's Coverage map shows green for my entire town and neighboring towns, for 2G/Voice.
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Try these APN settings http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2236735
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If that don't work then call T-Mobile and ***** them out for poor signal coverage
Modem flash to .33 nor the APN settings helped; still a pretty bad/no signal :/
Under About Device, I think my signal is like -80 or something; I've seen it go higher and lower, and I still had a connection though. Any ideas?
Did you contact T-Mobile yet? Maybe they can get you a signal booster.
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Another option if you're running a touchwiz rom is to use wifi calling.
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Been wondering same thing lol
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Almost no 4g on T-Mobile with nexus 4

Had this phone for less than a month and I noticed that my signal is weaker than my previous phone (g2) and I almost never get hspa. It's mostly 3g now and like two bars. Before I had full bars and mostly hspa. Anyone else with this problem?
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konoplya said:
Had this phone for less than a month and I noticed that my signal is weaker than my previous phone (g2) and I almost never get hspa. It's mostly 3g now and like two bars. Before I had full bars and mostly hspa. Anyone else with this problem?
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hspa is 3g, "4g" is lte.
how are the data speeds on both devices, have you compared? how about call quality? the signal meter will vary on different phone models, but could still be the same signal.
I have been swapping att and t-mobile sims in the Nexus 4 for the last few weeks. The displayed signal strength(bars) and the way it cycles through 3g/H on T-mobile is sort of weird. In areas with a good signal you sit in 3g then get bumped to H. The bars usually go up. I don't think the number of bars means much between different phones, different carriers and may mean nothing much at all. I use speed tests and test apps to rate carriers and phones. Using a signal app Cellular network widget all the carriers on my different phones get medicre at best signals..don't ask me. Verizon always gets 3-4 bars though.
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hspa is 3g, "4g" is lte.
how are the data speeds on both devices, have you compared? how about call quality? the signal meter will vary on different phone models, but could still be the same signal.
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Well there's a 3g display and then there's H displayed. I always thought that hspa was tmo's equivalent of 4g and lte is a separate animal. Anyway, I didn't test the speeds on g2 since its gone now. As for call quality it's good on the nexus, can't really complain.
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[Q] Nexus 4 LTE not strong?

I got a Nexus 4 after trading away my Blackberry Z10 which I have been using for the past year or so and I rooted it yesterday and flashed a couple of LTE-capable radio zips. Unfortunately, the best modem only shows 2 bars out of 4 when on 4G LTE when I am indoors and at most only 3 out of 4 bars when I am outside.
I did a speedtest outdoors and I am only getting 10-15 mbps at most which is not significantly different from what I got with just HSPA+. I used to own a Motorola Atrix HD LTE and I got speeds of over 20 mbps on that phone before it got stolen (similarly with my Blackberry z10).
Does anyone know if this is normal for the device? Or is it just my network is bad?
Thanks.
Androiddeveloper1991 said:
I got a Nexus 4 after trading away my Blackberry Z10 which I have been using for the past year or so and I rooted it yesterday and flashed a couple of LTE-capable radio zips. Unfortunately, the best modem only shows 2 bars out of 4 when on 4G LTE when I am indoors and at most only 3 out of 4 bars when I am outside.
I did a speedtest outdoors and I am only getting 10-15 mbps at most which is not significantly different from what I got with just HSPA+. I used to own a Motorola Atrix HD LTE and I got speeds of over 20 mbps on that phone before it got stolen (similarly with my Blackberry z10).
Does anyone know if this is normal for the device? Or is it just my network is bad?
Thanks.
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The bars are not mobile data. That's your voice side. The E, 3g, H, H+ etc is your mobile data.
LTE on these things is only band 4 and is not officially sanctioned. If your carrier doesn't use band 4 for LTE, you'll never see it.
Are you a T-Mobile customer?
i constantly get 62mbps download speeds in my area,lte. your data speed is influenced by how busy the network is, and how far from the tower you are on. oh, and btw, i get hspa+ speed around 40-41mbps download. just because your h/h+ speeds are similar to your lte, it means nothing. it means thats the results of how busy your network is and how far from you the tower is. there are places that i get higher h+ speeds than lte. but your lte upload speed will almost always be much more than h+.
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i constantly get 62mbps download speeds in my area,lte. your data speed is influenced by how busy the network is, and how far from the tower you are on. oh, and btw, i get hspa+ speed around 40-41mbps download. just because your h/h+ speeds are similar to your lte, it means nothing. it means thats the results of how busy your network is and how far from you the tower is. there are places that i get higher h+ speeds than lte. but your lte upload speed will almost always be much more than h+.
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Now those are some great speeds in my area i get in the 20s - 30s with H+ usually around 10-15 but they are more than enough for what I need.
playya said:
Now those are some great speeds in my area i get in the 20s - 30s with H+ usually around 10-15 but they are more than enough for what I need.
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in my part of southern brooklyn(manhattan beach), it doesnt make any difference which i use for download speed. but for uploads its a huge difference. hspa+ upload speeds of 3-3.5mbps, lte upload speeds of 22mbps. also, i get a full hour more sot on lte than on hspa+
Just curiosity but which lte hybrid modem are everyone using? I cant figure which one 'are the best' like you said OP. Simms22 is absolutly right. Lte connection and speed depends on your local area. There are some people out there who hasnt lte connection at all (like me)
I use the older 33/84 hybrid radio

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