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Hey guys, so I have been using my tp2 for a couple months now and I have noticed some things that could have some kind of App development. I have no idea where to begin with Developing apps and all of that tech stuff, so I'll put my ideas out there. If these things do exist please inform me, thanks
1. Customization of the Mute Key on the back - Personally I have never once touched this button because I dont use the speakerphone that often. My dad on the other hand uses his speakerphone many times throughout the day, but he has still no need for the mute button. Which leads to my ideas of being able to customize it for a push and/or push and hold functionality.
2. A keyboard that is just a D-pad. I tried the "G-pad" app which is supposed to enable to g-sensor to be used for scrolling, but I haven't been able to figure out how to use it properly. I also tried the ZoomAdds scrolling with the Zoom Bar, this is alright, however it doesn't always work for some reason.
3. Im not sure if this one is an app, or just a functionality of the Energy Rom, but i downloaded some apps from the Marketplace and the majority of them dont sort out into the folders in the Energy rom (such as Games, Tools, etc.) Is there an app for this or you can control it from the the settings in the energy rom or something? I didnt install the energy rom on my phone, which is why I know like nothing about it.
I use Keyboard controller for your #1 problem there. I hold my mute button to toggle Wifi on and off.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=554240
rorytmeadows said:
I use Keyboard controller for your #1 problem there. I hold my mute button to toggle Wifi on and off.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=554240
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You can also use rory's suggestion for problem #2 if you want...just map a directional arrow to a long-press of each of the 4 front hardware buttons, in whichever arrangement feels best for you (up/left/right/down, left/up/down/right, whatever)
sirphunkee said:
You can also use rory's suggestion for problem #2 if you want...just map a directional arrow to a long-press of each of the 4 front hardware buttons, in whichever arrangement feels best for you (up/left/right/down, left/up/down/right, whatever)
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Definitely. I also have mapped my 4 front buttons to various things...
double press back arrow = CleanRAM
triple press back arrow = Resco File Explorer
long press back arrow = YoMoMedia
triple press home = rotate screen
long press home = iGO8
Im just curious, what is the timeout on the double and triple presses? Like what if i was in a list and i had down set to a single press of the home key, and i pressed it a couple times, and I activated the double press function?
khoyifish said:
Im just curious, what is the timeout on the double and triple presses? Like what if i was in a list and i had down set to a single press of the home key, and i pressed it a couple times, and I activated the double press function?
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It's pretty reasonable. I was scared of the same thing, but it has never done something I didn't want it to do.
Thanks a lot
Doesnt the Zoombar program allow you to use the slider as a dpad now?
Aaron McCarthy said:
Doesnt the Zoombar program allow you to use the slider as a dpad now?
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quite possibly...it's been a while since I've used it and I can't remember for sure
As far as physical goes...Android has too many buttons. IMO you only need:
Button 1
Press Once = Sleep
Press Twice = Wake
Long Press = Shutdown/Turn On
Button 2
Press Once = Desktop
Press Twice = AppDrawer
Long Press = Open/Close Dockbar (scrollable dock for heavily used apps such as phone, messaging, music, etc that doesnt take up screen space.)
Button 3
Volume up/down
and possibly a dedicated CAPACITIVE scrolling/zooming button for fast scanning thru the app drawer and/or desktops and/or scrolling/zooming in web browsers.
(this way u can have larger widgets on ur desktops because u have a dedicated app drawer button and not one that takes up space on ur desktop. plus ur not limited to just 7 desktops like u get with HTC preview screens or launcherpro, etc because it would be easy to scroll thru 20 desktops with the dedicated capacitive scroll)
Ok. So if u put the sleep/wake on top of the phone, volume button on the left side, your left with just one button like the iphone and maybe my proposed idea of the capacitive scrolling button (thats if u like that idea).
this would be different from the iphone even though the iphone has one button because its functions are different. the iphone button does BACK+LONG PRESS=HOME. this would do a DESKTOP/APPDRAWER+LONG PRESS= DOCKBAR.
so it has 3 functions instead of 2. add in the capacitive scrolling and u have a simple easy to use device without redundant buttons thats still different from
apples iphone.
-no need for back button. browsers and apps can provide soft buttons in its user interface.
-no need for search button. widgets and apps can be used for this on ur desktop
-no need for settings button. again, widgets and apps can be used on ur desktops. put ur desktops to use!
great if u understood what i said. sorry for the rant if u didnt. just an idea and my 2cents.
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Get an iphone if you want less buttons.
I personally love the back, home and menu buttons, and find them very very useful.
Errr... my three most frequent used buttons are: back, home and menu and you want to remove 2 of them. Yeah, great idea ;-)
Brut.all said:
Errr... my three most frequent used buttons are: back, home and menu and you want to remove 2 of them. Yeah, great idea ;-)
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I agree, the last iphone I used pissed me off hard not having a physical back button....
I agree. back and home are essential! relying too much on soft buttons is silly. Also if you really dont like the OS because of the number of hard buttons then I think you are a little confused.
The hard buttons are usually decided by the manufacturer arent they? maybe your rant should be directed at htc and not android? I could be wrong.
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As far as physical goes...Android has too many buttons. IMO you only need:
Button 1
Press Once = Sleep
Press Twice = Wake
Long Press = Shutdown/Turn On
Button 2
Press Once = Desktop
Press Twice = AppDrawer
Long Press = Open/Close Dockbar (scrollable dock for heavily used apps such as phone, messaging, music, etc that doesnt take up screen space.)
Button 3
Volume up/down
and possibly a dedicated CAPACITIVE scrolling/zooming button for fast scanning thru the app drawer and/or desktops and/or scrolling/zooming in web browsers.
(this way u can have larger widgets on ur desktops because u have a dedicated app drawer button and not one that takes up space on ur desktop. plus ur not limited to just 7 desktops like u get with HTC preview screens or launcherpro, etc because it would be easy to scroll thru 20 desktops with the dedicated capacitive scroll)
Ok. So if u put the sleep/wake on top of the phone, volume button on the left side, your left with just one button like the iphone and maybe my proposed idea of the capacitive scrolling button (thats if u like that idea).
this would be different from the iphone even though the iphone has one button because its functions are different. the iphone button does BACK+LONG PRESS=HOME. this would do a DESKTOP/APPDRAWER+LONG PRESS= DOCKBAR.
so it has 3 functions instead of 2. add in the capacitive scrolling and u have a simple easy to use device without redundant buttons thats still different from
apples iphone.
-no need for back button. browsers and apps can provide soft buttons in its user interface.
-no need for search button. widgets and apps can be used for this on ur desktop
-no need for settings button. again, widgets and apps can be used on ur desktops. put ur desktops to use!
great if u understood what i said. sorry for the rant if u didnt. just an idea and my 2cents.
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That is steve jobs talk. -_-
LOL...I'm short of buttons. Idea = Long press Menu-> contacts and Long press Back->screen off or Camera, Trackball press -> receive/pickup call at lockscreen.
search button: yep, that button is needless, I never use it.
All other buttons are essential.
The home button and back button are very important. The back button isn't just for going one page in a browser back. Couldn't live with it. The menu button is very important, too, because it's a dedicated button which is the same in EVERY app, so you always know how to find the settings.
And then, volume and power button, you can't remove them.
PS: Two times button hitting to execute a command is silly.
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search button: yep, that button is needless, I never use it.
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This is where the Galaxy S shines: the menu button acts as both the menu and search buttons.
I think the search button is indispensable. When I want to find any contact or document in my phone, any thing in google it gets me there in one step.
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Lol, this dude is tripping. Giving up my 4 beautiful and all useful buttons. In instead lose screen estate cause every app is gonna make the SAME thing at the bottom as the buttons?
Lol. GTFO
You may have heard of this semi-obscure device that is basically what you are looking for. It is called the "iPhone", if you look it up on the interwebs you may be able to find something about it.
less buttons? seriously? im sorry to hear you cannot afford an iphone if you want it that bad.
I'd agree as well that some physical buttons are very useful to avoid wasting screen real estate with buttons. That said, the HTC Hero has 6 buttons (call, hang up, menu, home, back and search) which is probably a bit OTT as call and hang up are replicated on-screen all the time. But buttons like home, back and menu are essential, as others have said.
The key is that if *all* Android hardware has the same core set of buttons, then developers can rely on those buttons being there and use them intelligently. All too often you see programs which have clearly been ported over from another system without any effort having been made to adapt them to the Android system. Not only do these waste space, but they also feel counter-intuitive to an Android user because they use a different UI model. My particular pet-peeve is apps which forget to take control of the volume rocker for their audio - that makes me accidentally adjust my ringtone volume (which is normally silent!) instead of the app's volume
Umm, sorry for the rant...
Steven__ said:
...All too often you see programs which have clearly been ported over from another system without any effort having been made to adapt them to the Android system...
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Like the pause button on angry birds. Have they realised androids have a button called menu?
I love the 4/5 physical buttons on android, even if you don't use the search button a lot at first, you can always assign that button to something you want.
I wish I had 1 more button...a dedicated forward button...I get a little jumpy with my back button.
Less is not always more. Less is sometimes just less(i.e. iPhone)
mercianary said:
Like the pause button on angry birds. Have they realised androids have a button called menu?
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Well, you could try pressing the Menu button to see that they have!
veetip said:
Well, you could try pressing the Menu button to see that they have!
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Yeah I know. My point is the button onscreen is a waste of space because it it replicated by a hardware button.
The "search" button is more of a Google thing. Its a android phone (google) so they want a search option of there database to be easily accessed.
I multi-task a lot and switch between apps often. Instead of using the physical home button of the S4, is there a way I can have a feature that maps the function to either the menu or the back button and access it only when I long-press it? I feel like I would wear down the physical button and it takes more effort.
Thanks!
mindstormer said:
I multi-task a lot and switch between apps often. Instead of using the physical home button of the S4, is there a way I can have a feature that maps the function to either the menu or the back button and access it only when I long-press it? I feel like I would wear down the physical button and it takes more effort.
Thanks!
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I know how you feel when using the home button. After long searching, I found an app that uses swipe gestures on screen to activate actions like going to home screen and bringing up the recent app. This is a $0.99 app called Swipe Home Button in the Play Store. For what it is worth, definitely a buy. There is also a trial for you to try, so it can't hurt to check it out!
i tend to use stylus a lot and i can even use it on soft key buttons which is great, i always want to use home button function without pressing the actual button. Is there a motion gesture or anything similar that would allow me to go to home screen?
Basically i would like to avoid pressing the home button with finger all the time.
vadimo said:
i tend to use stylus a lot and i can even use it on soft key buttons which is great, i always want to use home button function without pressing the actual button. Is there a motion gesture or anything similar that would allow me to go to home screen?
Basically i would like to avoid pressing the home button with finger all the time.
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try button saviour
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.smart.swkey.nonroot&hl=en
or you can use the one included in the note, just go settings and then accessibility, in there just activate the assistant menu it's pretty good
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vadimo said:
i tend to use stylus a lot and i can even use it on soft key buttons which is great, i always want to use home button function without pressing the actual button. Is there a motion gesture or anything similar that would allow me to go to home screen?
Basically i would like to avoid pressing the home button with finger all the time.
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use swipe home button. Works perfectly with Spen. Just set sensitivity to large inside its settings if it is not that responsive.
thanks guys i liked the samsung accessibility one but i thought it was too laggy to open up and then its always floating
i then found perfect simple app called 'Home Button', its always in notifications and you simply click it
Try floating toucher on google play.
Gmd pen gestures. You create the gestures you need for whatever functions. I've got press pen button swipe down for notifications and up for home..
I don't know why Samsung made the onscreen home button working even if you don't press it and just touch it. So is it possible to "disable" the home-button when I just touch it and make it only work if I press it hard so it gives the force feedback?
Jemand222 said:
I don't know why Samsung made the onscreen home button working even if you don't press it and just touch it. So is it possible to "disable" the home-button when I just touch it and make it only work if I press it hard so it gives the force feedback?
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You can increase the sensativity of the hard press so it always acts as a press so you know
Go to settings - display - nav buttons and move the slider to more sensative
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You can increase the sensativity of the hard press so it always acts as a press so you know
Go to settings - display - nav buttons and move the slider to more sensative
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That's only for a hard press, so when locked, or in full screen for example. I don't think we can disable soft presses generally yet.
ElBeaner: Thanks for your help but thats not what I wanted.
I thought that there is no normal touch on the home button when all the reports came about the new force touch button. I was expecting that Samsung replaced the old button with the force feedback one. But they just added normal on screen buttons like they are on 100s of other android phones. And I really don't see no need for the force feedback button because all it does you can also do with touching the button and not pressing it.
It would be great if Samsung changes the behaviour so that only a real press on the home button is working and not the touch.
Wait so you want the on screen button to only work when its pressed hard? :silly:
peachpuff said:
Wait so you want the on screen button to only work when its pressed hard? :silly:
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Yes, I would actually prefer it if that was an option.
Skander1998 said:
Yes, I would actually prefer it if that was an option.
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And what phones have soft buttons that only work as hard buttons? Zero, stick to phones with physical buttons instead rather than hoping for an imaginary feature.
Actually I like the idea of pressure on the button as an option. We know it could be done if programmed right as the ability is right there, pressure sensitivity is built in under the screen.
This would be such a great idea. One of the reasons I hate onscreen buttons so much is that it's so easy to accidentally miss the space bar and tap the home button instead.
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Wait so you want the on screen button to only work when its pressed hard? :silly:
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Silly indeed
I'd actually prefer this too. It's weird that their whole promotion was around a pressure sensitive home button, but the way they set it up, it literally has no purpose.
Moostafa29 said:
I'd actually prefer this too. It's weird that their whole promotion was around a pressure sensitive home button, but the way they set it up, it literally has no purpose.
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You can press it to wake the phone up, you can press it to go home if you're watching a full screen movie or playing a game and the onscreen buttons aren't shown... ya i guess it's useless.
Interesting topic. So why has Samsung included a hard press home button? It doesn't​ do anything.
i would also prefer this , im in the same boat , useing messages app , and having the floating buttons show up is anoying
I'm pretty sure this is how the iPhone 7 home button works. It is not a physical button but a pressure sensitive area where the button used to be. Different actions for different amounts of pressure.
It would be great to have the whole display everytime and if you need the back button and the task manager button you could swipe them up (like on fullscreen apps) and you have always the sensitive home button. That would be 1cm more screen and no accidental clicks on the home button.
I guess that it has a reason why Samsung built a button but doesn't use it for real. And I found one possible reason: If you touch the display above the button and slide your finger to the center of the button you can't press it. You have to hit the button directly to press it.
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i would also prefer this , im in the same boat , useing messages app , and having the floating buttons show up is anoying
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Its been like this since forever on any nexus/pixel devices, get used to it.
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And what phones have soft buttons that only work as hard buttons? Zero, stick to phones with physical buttons instead rather than hoping for an imaginary feature.
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I agree with the original poster. With the soft touch intact, what is the purpose of the hard press? You can't get to a hard touch without a soft touch so it is pointless, also, I use immersive mode so if I swipe up the nav bar, invariably it's from the centre so I accidentally trigger the home key.
mydan said:
I agree with the original poster. With the soft touch intact, what is the purpose of the hard press? You can't get to a hard touch without a soft touch so it is pointless, also, I use immersive mode so if I swipe up the nav bar, invariably it's from the centre so I accidentally trigger the home key.
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Hard press (3D touch) is to make you always able to go home even when navbar is not present,
As for the rest of situation, soft press is more than enough to serve the function
So I dont really think enable only the hard press is actually a good idea.
otonieru said:
Hard press (3D touch) is to make you always able to go home even when navbar is not present,
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Thank you... why can't people understand this?