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dont understand crappy audio

I dont understand it.. samsung sells video cameras ... if they sold one with the crapy audio of our phone no one would buy it and they wouldnt sell any.
So they know how to record acceptable audio.. Why cannot they tweek the audio settings when you start camera to record acceptable audio (assuming they need to be different than for a phone) and change back when exiting/using phone?

What are you comparing the audio recording to. I've seen people compare it to other phones online, and many reckoned it was quite good..
Also, you do realise that video cameras have a lot more space to work with right? The quality of todays smartphones video/audio/photos is magic considering the limited space available for sensors.

andrewluecke said:
What are you comparing the audio recording to. I've seen people compare it to other phones online, and many reckoned it was quite good..
Also, you do realise that video cameras have a lot more space to work with right? The quality of todays smartphones video/audio/photos is magic considering the limited space available for sensors.
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It's way too sensitive... I recorded a concert (and a drive in teh car) and the audio was crap. Distorted in the car, unbearable in concert (way distorted/nosiy... literally couldn't hear the actual music).
Saw other videos with phones and they were MUCH better (audio wise). And no, it wasn't an extremely loud concert.

I think the audio is really good for a phone this size. Are you comparing it to a bose system or what? Lol
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I had the same problem with Omnia HD. The sound of videos was so poor too. It was resolved by firmware update, where the audio codec was updated.
Anyone knows if exists any firmware with an acceptable sound quality of recorded videos on i9000??
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Playback is great, it is the recording that is a bit crazy, the mic is super sensitive.. hopefully they can adjust this in a firmware.

True i was in rally few days ago and recorded some videos from there , video quality was awesome but sound was terrible. Too sensitive mic!

Impressed by 720p capture, very disappointed with the audio.
Case in point: Recording as of today: youtube.com/watch?v=oQPov5mUTm8
not loud inside at all, just some general background noise.
Using latest official firmware from Samsung JG4 (Optus Aus)

It has one mic, designed for minimising out ambient noise during a phone call, you can't really expect it to be good at recording a concert.

Bs my kids 5800 an my wives n 85 and other Nokia phones all recorded acceptable audio.
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OP, your meaning of "audio" should be more carefully explained.
DO you mean:
1) Audio playback?
or
2) Audio recording?
My guess is #2. Yes, the microphone is quite sensitive. There were tons of people using the Samsung Omnia ( the prior generation android smartphone) who complained about the microphone NOT being sensitive enough. So Samsung decided to make the mic more sensitive.

LgCamera 6.4

Hi,
Is anyone there who tried LgCamera 6.4 on LG G2? If yes what is your experience? Could you record 1080p60fps video?
I tried and tested few functions and so far it works perfectly on LG G2 too. Also It shots pictures without any sharp blur or any other dirt. Only the pure clear picture which is unbelievable in this modern world. It doesn't want to impress the user with too sharped photos on mobile screen but pictures look good on monitor and TV as well.

Hi,
Is it this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1677645
If not, can you post some infos, a link?

viking37 said:
Hi,
Is it this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1677645
If not, can you post some infos, a link?
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Yes, it is.

I hadn't seen this camera before and just installed 6.4 final. It appears to be taking great pics. Better than stock G2 cam. Will test tonight indoors with low light on my GF.

I noticed you can't take pictures with the phone vertically.. The pictures come out sideways
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joemagistro said:
I noticed you can't take pictures with the phone vertically.. The pictures come out sideways
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Same with the stock camera.
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trickster2369 said:
Same with the stock camera.
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Stock camera as in aosp? Or the g2s stock camera? Bc the g2's camera works either way
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First is vertical
Second is horizontal
LG G2 camera
Thanks Devs. From my VZW G2.

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First is vertical
Second is horizontal
LG G2 camera
Thanks Devs. From my VZW G2.
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That's not very good quality. I began thinking it was the software causing this camera to be a bust. It's the hardware I am gathering.

Did anyone try to 60fps video option. G2 can do. This software also has such option but result is always 30fps. Factory camera software can record 60fps video.

My low light pics were awful, the aosp camera did a better job, if that tells you anything
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"a better camera" from the play store is working well for me
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It tells not too much. I haven't used AOSP camera on LG G2 so far but low light function is not in my focus sorry, although I am very satisfied with low light capabilities of built in camera. What is interesting for me in this program is that pictures and video post-processing is much less then others'. As I see every phone manufacturer built as many post-processing options in their phone as they could do. Typical is the sharping and denoising which make pictures on mobile screen wow but zooming on monitor to just 100% it is already terrible usually. I hate this and in addition such kind of effects cannot be removed subsequently. I know these effects can be good and useful sometimes but I prefer if I can do the post-processing according to my taste. So this program is very promising from this point of view.
I did video in sunlight too and I got always 30fps result in spite of 60 fps setting. I am wondering whether any of you knows a trick how to turn it on. Thanks for it in advance.

Does anyone know whether you needed software to take advantage of the ois in the G2? Meaning, can a camera aside from the stock camera use the ois? I noticed this camera app has an anti shake mode but I'm guessing that's a software stabilization.

Dearborn1977 said:
Does anyone know whether you needed software to take advantage of the ois in the G2? Meaning, can a camera aside from the stock camera use the ois? I noticed this camera app has an anti shake mode but I'm guessing that's a software stabilization.
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All camera software takes all advantage and disadvantage of OiS. It cannot be turned on/off. Also I see that software has an anti shake option but I haven't turned it on yet. I think using it does not make sense in case of photo because of OiS. In case of video? Interesting... I think so that software anti-shake function does not eliminate disadvantage of OiS .

obladi64 said:
Did anyone try to 60fps video option. G2 can do. This software also has such option but result is always 30fps. Factory camera software can record 60fps video.
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Qualcomm libs handle hfr rates differently max fps range is 30 but if you add this camera parameter video-hfr
Code:
161// Values for HFR settings.
162const char QCameraParameters::VIDEO_HFR_OFF[] = "off";
163const char QCameraParameters::VIDEO_HFR_2X[] = "60";
164const char QCameraParameters::VIDEO_HFR_3X[] = "90";
165const char QCameraParameters::VIDEO_HFR_4X[] = "120";
video-hfr 60
video-hfr 90
video-hfr 120
you can enable hfr

Thanks a lot indeed. As I see I can do it just on rooted system. I am planing to root my phone, may be this weekend.

EVOme said:
I hadn't seen this camera before and just installed 6.4 final. It appears to be taking great pics. Better than stock G2 cam. Will test tonight indoors with low light on my GF.
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sounds hot.
hahahaa
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Nobody expect something special in case of low light! As I see it does not contain any special function for it. Use built in camera in low light! It works very well in these circumstances.

Aosp camera better than stock G2 camera? Must be something wrong with the phone . I can't make this phone take a bad picture.

What is nice about this app is that you can change the bitrate from very low to very high. Also, it will allow you to choose the file format you create and will allow for touch to focus in video, unlike the stock app in the G2.
Also, it automatically brightens the screen to 100% which is convenient. It seems to me that there are things that different camcorder/camera apps do better than others. Apparently there it's capable of recording from the input jack in a certain configuration that other apps are not able to. I don't recall exactly what the details are, but if you are interested in connecting an external mic, apparently this app can do something 'special'.

[Q] Does the Audio Zoom actually work?

I haven't seen a thread about this yet. So here is my question.
Does anyone know if the audio zoom actually makes a difference? This is a really cool feature that I haven't seen actually work to my liking.
What do you all think?

Do you mean auto zoom? For the camera?

No, he means audio zoom. And yes sir, very well! Only in landscape though.
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I tried it multiple times, but never got it to really focus on a specific sound/voice

On mine T-Mobile D801 does not seem to be working...
I noticed that there are some G2s with three microphones (one on top, one near camera and one on the bottom) and some others with only two (top and bottom).
Maybe this has something to do with Audio Zoom not working on some models? Mine has only two mics by the way.
Cheers!

Yeah, I have the T-mobile one too. I haven't check the mics yet though.

Poor mic recording quality

I've found the audio recording on the stock video recorder to be pretty low quality and heavily compressed. Is there a way to change this within the recorder app itself? Or it hardware and not software causing the problem? Also, I notice that the sound comes out stereo, but most of the audio plays inconsistently from only one speaker.
You can see [hear] what I mean HERE.
PS: this is totally not a plug . It's just the kind of thing I'd like to record on my phone once in a while and I'd be disappointed if I couldn't find a way to improve the quality.

It plays from one speaker cause it has only one speaker....Except if you mean outside of the phone.You cannot change it from the app its fixed.

woof123 said:
It plays from one speaker cause it has only one speaker....Except if you mean outside of the phone.You cannot change it from the app its fixed.
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Thanks for your reply. I did mean outside the phone. Using headphones or playing the video on another device yields weird stereo issues. I am aware that the two grills at the bottom are for the speaker and microphone.
Might you know of a decent video recorder app that would have better audio quality?
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Try Hi Q Mp3 recorder. I have the pay version and it works fine for recording your voice etc. In the options I chose rear mic and it seemed better to me. I did notice that if you are recording voices in the background and not directly in front of the mic that the recording comes out very choppy though. On my old Nexus it was perfectly clear so not sure if that is the noise cancellation messing it up.
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I may have found the solution; I forgot that I had Jishnu Sur's camera mod installed (2.5.3). When I reflashed with a freshly downloaded zip, the issues seem to have gone away. I'll keep using it and see if that fixed it for good.

Disappointing audio quality when filming videos at loud music concerts...

Hello all,
My previous phone was a Moto X Style (or Pure in the US) and the sound quality while filming videos at loud heavy metal/hard rock concerts was very good. My battery life having become abysmal, I decided to switch to the LG V20 last Fall, knowing I'll really miss the front-facing stereo speakers but thinking I'd improve the quality of my live music videos.
So far, 3 concerts with the V20 and struck out the 3 times. 1st 2 concerts, I tried to mess around with the manual video settings and the resulting videos had bad sound, clipping... Video itself was not too bad, but far from perfect. For the 3rd concert, I said, to hell with manual, I'll go fully automatic, as I did with my Moto X Style. Results for the audio were a bit better than with the manual settings, but still a far cry from what I got with my Moto X Style.
I read everywhere that the V20 was the phone to get if you wanted the best possible live music video recordings. And it's not happening. Is there something wrong with my phone? Anyone had manual settings they use at loud music shows they'd agree to share?
Thanks for any input.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KW-zcPAD3QsUmXgGboAOnrEBCBo4GyAf/view?usp=drivesdk
You've got to open the Camera app, select Manual Video from the top (second screen), then ensure you've got your high fidelity audio settings correctly selected. You will likely need to reduce the 'Gain' setting to avoid clipping, as concerts are ridiculously loud. You'll find that the 'Concert' setting in manual video mode presets that for you.
If all else fails, HD Audio Recorder in the app drawer allows for high fidelity recording as well, albeit without the video.
Hope this helps, cheers!

Hi,
Thanks for the reply. But I don't see any Concert mode or preset in my manual video settings. Only in the HD Audio Recorder app. I'll try to match these settings into the HiFi manual video mode at my next concert next week. Any tip to get the best video quality at concerts, when not using the flash and having to deal with stage lights that are often no that dim?

metaleloi666 said:
Hi,
Thanks for the reply. But I don't see any Concert mode or preset in my manual video settings. Only in the HD Audio Recorder app. I'll try to match these settings into the HiFi manual video mode at my next concert next week. Any tip to get the best video quality at concerts, when not using the flash and having to deal with stage lights that are often no that dim?
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My apologies, concert mode in HD audio recorder app is what I was referring to. Yes, you can copy those same settings into Manual Video mode though. That should help you out.
Here's a brief but very good beginners tutorial on video settings that you should learn to use with your manual mode in both video and photo applications. This V20 is fantastic at a multitude of different functions.
https://photographylife.com/iso-shutter-speed-and-aperture-for-beginners
Lastly, after studying these variables a bit and learning to play around with them in your own home, or outdoors during practice sessions, give it a shot at your concerts. You can always record during the opening performers prior to the main event. Run outside to the bathroom and see how well the video and audio recorded, then make adjustments from there.
**Note** I did say 'Bathroom' .. you don't want event staff to catch you making HD recordings of live performances lol! That'll get you in a bit of trouble.
ONE last mention; in manual video mode, you can toggle between UHD at 30fps (2160p) or FHD (1080p) at 60fps.
I would think due to low exposure and rapid light shows, you might want FHD60.

You've to record video using manual mode and then adjust your mic settings , becuase it has too many useful adjustments.

Thanks all. I'll try some more at my next concert (and messing around with the video settings at home next weekend).
I'm not the kind of guy filming all concert long, I think you lose the live experience doing this (and it sucks for people around). I just enjoy filming 60-90 second-clips of 3-4 songs to get souvenirs to enjoy later...

maxi65 said:
You've to record video using manual mode and then adjust your mic settings , becuase it has too many useful adjustments.
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You mean the "Hi-Fi" settings?

metaleloi666 said:
Thanks all. I'll try some more at my next concert (and messing around with the video settings at home next weekend).
I'm not the kind of guy filming all concert long, I think you lose the live experience doing this (and it sucks for people around). I just enjoy filming 60-90 second-clips of 3-4 songs to get souvenirs to enjoy later...
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To keep it real imo, the v20 sucks when it comes down to just point and shoot. I get your point, I've been places where I just want to take a quick picture or video and it comes out horrible on my V20. When I switch to manual and adjust settings then the picture/video is very good. If you go to concerts a lot I would suggest different phone like pixel or take a few extra minutes in concert to get just the right manual settings.

Still_living714 said:
To keep it real imo, the v20 sucks when it comes down to just point and shoot. I get your point, I've been places where I just want to take a quick picture or video and it comes out horrible on my V20. When I switch to manual and adjust settings then the picture/video is very good. If you go to concerts a lot I would suggest different phone like pixel or take a few extra minutes in concert to get just the right manual settings.
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Agreed, pixel 2 might be the king of all smart phone cameras to date. I purchased this V20 because it's identical to having a $350-400 external headphone amp.
On my reference level floor tower speakers, playing back lossless audio with high impedance mode... Oh boy it makes me tingle...

Well.... I'm starting to think my V20 has mic problems... Because I was at a concert on Monday. Recorded some live videos in manual mode, with the same settings as "Concert" of the Hi-Fi Recorder app. And the results are far to be stellar. Sound is not very good, still with some cracking. Image is fine. I even tried the Hi-Fi Recorder app (so no video) and the sound is not too good either... Really disappointed by this...
My Moto X Style was much better for this, without having to mess up with any settings...

metaleloi666 said:
Well.... I'm starting to think my V20 has mic problems... Because I was at a concert on Monday. Recorded some live videos in manual mode, with the same settings as "Concert" of the Hi-Fi Recorder app. And the results are far to be stellar. Sound is not very good, still with some cracking. Image is fine. I even tried the Hi-Fi Recorder app (so no video) and the sound is not too good either... Really disappointed by this...
My Moto X Style was much better for this, without having to mess up with any settings...
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If there's cracking, there's likely some kind of fault with the hardware.

3mL said:
If there's cracking, there's likely some kind of fault with the hardware.
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This sucks....

metaleloi666 said:
Well.... I'm starting to think my V20 has mic problems... Because I was at a concert on Monday. Recorded some live videos in manual mode, with the same settings as "Concert" of the Hi-Fi Recorder app. And the results are far to be stellar. Sound is not very good, still with some cracking. Image is fine. I even tried the Hi-Fi Recorder app (so no video) and the sound is not too good either... Really disappointed by this...
My Moto X Style was much better for this, without having to mess up with any settings...
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Sounds like you have the gain set way too high.
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BROKEN1981 said:
Sounds like you have the gain set way too high.
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But I used the same values as the "concert" settings in Hi-Fi Recorder...

metaleloi666 said:
But I used the same values as the "concert" settings in Hi-Fi Recorder...
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How does it sound when you play it back on earphones?
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How does it sound when you play it back on earphones?
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Didn't try with headphones, but transferred the files on my PC which is connected to my big sound system. And it doesn't sound good....

metaleloi666 said:
But I used the same values as the "concert" settings in Hi-Fi Recorder...
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Next time try these settings:
Увеличить
or these:
Увеличить
You look at the scale of the left and right channels next to the setting button. It should not be red, even in yellow is not desirable.
If the low frequencies are too strong, you can reduce the LCF to 75 Hz
If you want to hear some of my videos and say how the sound quality is.
https://youtu.be/BxJ0fSO0tAI
https://youtu.be/1TW5JvwM7yQ
https://youtu.be/3q8Ha7MboI0
https://youtu.be/iHHcyUd2ZY0

Don't know if you'll see this? I have been live audience recording concerts for 23+ years. I just bought a v20 and had the same experience. Wasn't what I expected. Seeing this now. Didnt realize there were manual settings for video recording. The problem is the LMT. TURN IT TO "OFF". probably don't need LFC either unless there is too much bass in the room? Boomy sounding? Watch the gain settings too. 0db is probably fine depending on how loud the concert is. Turn it down if it looks like the Wave file is a solid block. The reason you don't want to use the LMT is because it suppresses the loud spikes in the music and it does it very slowly which makes the audio sound swishy. It ruined 3 clips I shot at a recent concert. I never use a limiter (LMT) when I record because of that. Good luck

Cosmickc said:
Don't know if you'll see this? I have been live audience recording concerts for 23+ years. I just bought a v20 and had the same experience. Wasn't what I expected. Seeing this now. Didnt realize there were manual settings for video recording. The problem is the LMT. TURN IT TO "OFF". probably don't need LFC either unless there is too much bass in the room? Boomy sounding? Watch the gain settings too. 0db is probably fine depending on how loud the concert is. Turn it down if it looks like the Wave file is a solid block. The reason you don't want to use the LMT is because it suppresses the loud spikes in the music and it does it very slowly which makes the audio sound swishy. It ruined 3 clips I shot at a recent concert. I never use a limiter (LMT) when I record because of that. Good luck
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Thanks for this. I think I already played with these settings with no success but will take a look again.
I think the micros of the phone might be defective...

Some i found from the web. Distance from the speakers makes a difference
https://youtu.be/DUd3w0EETF0
https://youtu.be/pixMqrANxFI
https://youtu.be/Xj_lTH7TuXk
All are in auto