Hi guys, fairly new to Android, been an iPhone user for a very long time. Didn't like it, but they were always JB. I got the S4 and was hoping to get it in a custom rom since all this AT&T jargon is annoying. Not to mention the slow stock apps and useless apps.
Heres my phone specs.
ANDROID VERSION: 4.2.2
MODEL: SAMSUNG-SGH-I337
BASE BAND VERSION: I337UCUAMF3
BUILD NUMBER: JDQ39.I337UCUAMF3
It's an MF3 to the max I believe. And as far as I have seen, there is no option for it using any AOSP roms or any roms that use the 4.4. roms.
I may be wrong and was wondering what my options are for custom roms? I would like to go cyagen or google, but it seems I may be out of luck with either. I can't find help on the forums since most people claim they got a rom, while many others claim its impossible, while others have bricked phones. I dont even know which recover to use.
My phone is rooted, I have clockwork.
aermis said:
Hi guys, fairly new to Android, been an iPhone user for a very long time. Didn't like it, but they were always JB. I got the S4 and was hoping to get it in a custom rom since all this AT&T jargon is annoying. Not to mention the slow stock apps and useless apps.
Heres my phone specs.
ANDROID VERSION: 4.2.2
MODEL: SAMSUNG-SGH-I337
BASE BAND VERSION: I337UCUAMF3
BUILD NUMBER: JDQ39.I337UCUAMF3
It's an MF3 to the max I believe. And as far as I have seen, there is no option for it using any AOSP roms or any roms that use the 4.4. roms.
I may be wrong and was wondering what my options are for custom roms? I would like to go cyagen or google, but it seems I may be out of luck with either. I can't find help on the forums since most people claim they got a rom, while many others claim its impossible, while others have bricked phones. I dont even know which recover to use.
My phone is rooted, I have clockwork.
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Unless you can boot into clockwork, you don't have it. Chances are your recovery is broken at the moment. Your only option on MF3 is to use Safestrap, and if you stay on MF3 then you can use a 4.2.2 Google Edition ROM but that's the most you'll get besides other touchwiz. Otherwise, if you do have clockwork then you're either still on MDL with an MF3 ROM or on a different model. There's plenty of threads with information.
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Unless you can boot into clockwork, you don't have it. Chances are your recovery is broken at the moment. Your only option on MF3 is to use Safestrap, and if you stay on MF3 then you can use a 4.2.2 Google Edition ROM but that's the most you'll get besides other touchwiz. Otherwise, if you do have clockwork then you're either still on MDL with an MF3 ROM or on a different model. There's plenty of threads with information.
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Awesome. Thank you for the information. You may be right with the Clockwork being broken. I do get into the boot load but I don't think I got a recovery. OK so my best options are a 4.2.2 google edition rom. How about with cyogen? If you can point me to the proper forums I'd gladly stop annoying you lol. I'm sorry for being difficult. It's hard for me to dig for information correctly.
Keep Digging. You have a lot to learn. Read up on what you can and can not do on mf3. Look for safestrap
Mf3 shostock v2.3 was good... Try rooted stock with the wanam clean up w.e apps you don't need... Regardless its only TW and I'm holding off updating faithfully
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you won't be able to use cyanogen, it's aosp
and you will have to use the recovery that comes with safestrap--no custom recoveries or kernels
you can, i believe update to mk2 and with latest Safestrap 3.7? and use 4.3 roms. not expert on SafeStrap as I don't need it, so not 100% on that
first step is getting recovery back
Everyone thanks a lot for the replies. I will look into all that was said and see what my best options are. Whether to update to mk2 and get 4.3 roms but risk the update or keep mf3 and hope for some custom recoveries.
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I purchased my S4 shortly after its release...around the beginning of the summer.
I immediately rooted it and, at the advice of these forums, froze with Titanium Backup the service that calls for OS updates (so I wouldnt loose the ability to roor, custom backup and ROM). I am running stock ROM on a rooted phone and for now dont intend to put anything custom on.
I know since then there have been a number of updates, none of which I have received as I have frozen my update service.
Im totally unaware of what improvements, if any, these updates may have brought and am wondering whether I should allow AT&T to update my phone (and get whatever benefits come from 4.3, etc.) or whether I should stick to my 4.2.2 which (I think) is the MF3 that people recommended Id want to preserve.
Advice?
Thanks.
lirong said:
I purchased my S4 shortly after its release...around the beginning of the summer.
I immediately rooted it and, at the advice of these forums, froze with Titanium Backup the service that calls for OS updates (so I wouldnt loose the ability to roor, custom backup and ROM). I am running stock ROM on a rooted phone and for now dont intend to put anything custom on.
I know since then there have been a number of updates, none of which I have received as I have frozen my update service.
Im totally unaware of what improvements, if any, these updates may have brought and am wondering whether I should allow AT&T to update my phone (and get whatever benefits come from 4.3, etc.) or whether I should stick to my 4.2.2 which (I think) is the MF3 that people recommended Id want to preserve.
Advice?
Thanks.
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If you really have no interest in roms then you can go ahead and update. I'm on mf3 on a rom, so am not 100% sure on root, but it looks like some people have been able to upgrade and keep root, you might want to look more into that. But if you have no interest in roms and you can update and still root then I would say go for it.
However, if you are pre mf3 that's when it becomes tricky. If you are pre mf3 and update you lose a lot of freedom with ROMs. So if you have interest in other roms and are currently pre mf3, I would stick with pre mf3 and not update.
lirong said:
I purchased my S4 shortly after its release...around the beginning of the summer.
I immediately rooted it and, at the advice of these forums, froze with Titanium Backup the service that calls for OS updates (so I wouldnt loose the ability to roor, custom backup and ROM). I am running stock ROM on a rooted phone and for now dont intend to put anything custom on.
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I'm kind of in the same position, and I've been wondering the same thing.
I got my S 4 in May 2013. It came with 4.2.2 on MDL. I immediately rooted and froze the update service. I installed a custom recovery with the intention of exploring newer roms at some point, but I'm not sure what I'm missing by staying on 4.2.2 vs. 4.3. So much of the activity now surrounds the capabilities of 4.3, that I am feeling a bit left out!
mikew99 said:
I'm kind of in the same position, and I've been wondering the same thing.
I got my S 4 in May 2013. It came with 4.2.2 on MDL. I immediately rooted and froze the update service. I installed a custom recovery with the intention of exploring newer roms at some point, but I'm not sure what I'm missing by staying on 4.2.2 vs. 4.3. So much of the activity now surrounds the capabilities of 4.3, that I am feeling a bit left out!
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Youre one of the few that actually still have a custom recovery! Use it to your advantage to flash a MK9 rom, as I think thats the latest software version from samsung
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bennyboy78 said:
Youre one of the few that actually still have a custom recovery! Use it to your advantage to flash a MK9 rom, as I think thats the latest software version from samsung
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All Canadian variants can run custom recovery. No locked bootloaders in canada. However doing so, does trip knox. If you don't care about knox, and have an sgh-i337m then custom recovery away. This includes latest mk6 jb4.3
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Here's my $.02
If you STILL have MDB or MDL bootloaders that CAME on your phone keep the same bootloaders and DO NOT UPDATE with the OTA's.
You can find Roms JUST LIKE YOUR ON that are PURE STOCK 4.2.2 MF3 or PURE STOCK 4.3 MK2 without losing any of the functionality of those on the 4.3 or 4.2.2 stock firmwares.
OR you can use some STOCK BASED Roms Like ShoStock-MF3 that has some added benefits WITHOUT sacrificing anything. Or try even NEWER 4.3 Roms Like ShoStock-i 4.3 MK8 with all the added benefits of stock firmwares with some slight added benefits as well. Basically if you keep your original bootloaders you CAN DO anything you WANT without sacrificing what those users lost by upgrading or buying with MF3 or newer already installed.
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And like "RockRatt" +$.02
I know for myself I haven't been on MDL for a long time so until this nut gets cracked I'm up to date .those that are pre MF3 should hold on to what you have. cause like I tell most normal people that don't mess with there phones like we at XDA do that have a problem with there stock phone.Samsung devs do the same thing as XDA devs do minus the mad improvements/mods , so expect bugs of any sort from either. What I'm getting at is pre MF3 you have the option to find perfection using "Loki".
I will add that the newest update (MK2) runs pretty good
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I have had my S4 since switching to ATT in late November and have been following the XDA forums very closely since then. It was thanks to the XDA forums that I was able to root my S4.
However, no matter how far, wide, and meticulously I look on the site, there is no mention of the existence of running KIT-KAT on the i337 S4 for AT&T, save for the Google Play Edition and the version with the octacore etc.
I know these forums are strict (and should be) about questions being asked more than once, but I am not asking when KITKAT will be released through AT&T or even Samsung because I honestly don't care. I simply want to get KitKat on my device running with relative stability. I know there are custom roms out there, but most of them were released...a month ago or so? MAYBE I'm missing something, but if anyone here is in similar shoes, I would appreciate it if you'd echo my sentiments/request to find out if it can be done and how.
Anyone who knows how I can learn more about loading ASOP onto my i337 S4, I would greatly appreciate it. If the limitation is a locked boot loader that you CANNOT get around (excluding safestrap), do let me know! I'm sure a lot of people would benefit from the answer to this question.
Otherwise I'm going to go buy the Google Play Edition of one of the Android devices that has an unlocked boot loader.
Cheers,
Justin
justintime001 said:
I have had my S4 since switching to ATT in late November and have been following the XDA forums very closely since then. It was thanks to the XDA forums that I was able to root my S4.
However, no matter how far, wide, and meticulously I look on the site, there is no mention of the existence of running KIT-KAT on the i337 S4 for AT&T, save for the Google Play Edition and the version with the octacore etc.
I know these forums are strict (and should be) about questions being asked more than once, but I am not asking when KITKAT will be released through AT&T or even Samsung because I honestly don't care. I simply want to get KitKat on my device running with relative stability. I know there are custom roms out there, but most of them were released...a month ago or so? MAYBE I'm missing something, but if anyone here is in similar shoes, I would appreciate it if you'd echo my sentiments/request to find out if it can be done and how.
Anyone who knows how I can learn more about loading ASOP onto my i337 S4, I would greatly appreciate it. If the limitation is a locked boot loader that you CANNOT get around (excluding safestrap), do let me know! I'm sure a lot of people would benefit from the answer to this question.
Otherwise I'm going to go buy the Google Play Edition of one of the Android devices that has an unlocked boot loader.
Cheers,
Justin
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What version are you currently running. Go to about phone and post your baseband version. If the 2nd to last digit is f or higher you can't get kit kat yet. If it is before f then you are free to do whatever you want., If you are rooted you can just download rom manager from the play store and flash a recovery the easy way. Then get cyanogenmod or something for your device.
failedjedi said:
What version are you currently running. Go to about phone and post your baseband version. If the 2nd to last digit is f or higher you can't get kit kat yet. If it is before f then you are free to do whatever you want., If you are rooted you can just download rom manager from the play store and flash a recovery the easy way. Then get cyanogenmod or something for your device.
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Thank you for your reply!!!
That is most unfortunate, since it is i337UCUEMK2 - even if I did some crazy stuff to go back to MF3, I'd be right at f anyway. ROM Manager and flashing a recovery the easy way seemed simple enough and I was going to do that but it ended up not working, then I tried using Goo Manager and that soft-bricked my phone and I spent hours getting it back to MK2 again. It's back to the way it was, but I still want to update to Kit-Kat.
Btw, could you tell me why it isn't possible because of my baseband? Thanks failedjedi, and anyone else that can offer useful information.
Cheers,
J
justintime001 said:
Thank you for your reply!!!
That is most unfortunate, since it is i337UCUEMK2 - even if I did some crazy stuff to go back to MF3, I'd be right at f anyway. ROM Manager and flashing a recovery the easy way seemed simple enough and I was going to do that but it ended up not working, then I tried using Goo Manager and that soft-bricked my phone and I spent hours getting it back to MK2 again. It's back to the way it was, but I still want to update to Kit-Kat.
Btw, could you tell me why it isn't possible because of my baseband? Thanks failedjedi, and anyone else that can offer useful information.
Cheers,
J
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With mf3 they locked down the bootloader. So before mf3 you were able to put a custom recovery and custom roms. Since MF3 no one has figured out how to bypass it yet. With mf3 you can use safestrap to sort of get some custom roms, but it still needs to boot the stock kernel as you can't yet use a custom kernel. As a result you are limited to only 4.2.2 Touchwiz based roms working. Now safestrap has a beta for newer versions, not 100% sure what it does and does not support yet as I'm sticking with my mf3 and a 4.2.2 jellybean rom. But the beta is new and probably still buggy.
But basically since you need the stock kernel, you are limited to only the android version your current stock version is.
Yeah as an android developer, I accept that, but am not going to permit it to remain true. This might take awhile...
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If you are a developer there are bounties out for someone to get this working on mf3>
I don't have that issue but good luck if you try--:good:
Thanks! Didn't really know there were bounties for that - worthwhile ones anyway given that im dev apps and messing with AOSP and mainly my att s4 every chance I get.
Actually id be doing it for mk2, and if it becomes apparent that mf3 is easier to do it with ill do with that since I'd just DANGEROUSLY use Odin to go back, root, sideload titpro and block the sht out of the autoupdate. From what ive seen, the intermediary version between mf3 and mk2 might be most likely. This is all conjecture anyway. Sooner or later I will allow people to be free even with contracted or used phones.
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I still have a MDL bootloader and have been running clean GE ROMs since they came out. I really want to try out AT&T's latest MK2 4.3 official ROM, but it seems no one has just released a clean flashable in CWM rom like I have seen in past releases.
Is it because most people have to use Safestrap now with the newer bootloaders and have no use for flashable MK2 ROMs anymore?
I don't want to upgrade my bootloader by just putting on MK2 the normal way, I want to keep the ability to flash ROMS, but really want to try out a stock MK2 so I can try out the Samsung stuff again.
Sure there are a ton of MK2 ROMs in the forums here, but they are heavily modded with stuff I really don't want. I just want a clean ROM without anyone's MODs except for the usual of removal of the protections that would prevent me from reflashing a different ROM in the future.
Can anyone please point me in the right direction?
chocodough said:
I still have a MDL bootloader and have been running clean GE ROMs since they came out. I really want to try out AT&T's latest MK2 4.3 official ROM, but it seems no one has just released a clean flashable in CWM rom like I have seen in past releases.
Is it because most people have to use Safestrap now with the newer bootloaders and have no use for flashable MK2 ROMs anymore?
I don't want to upgrade my bootloader by just putting on MK2 the normal way, I want to keep the ability to flash ROMS, but really want to try out a stock MK2 so I can try out the Samsung stuff again.
Sure there are a ton of MK2 ROMs in the forums here, but they are heavily modded with stuff I really don't want. I just want a clean ROM without anyone's MODs except for the usual of removal of the protections that would prevent me from reflashing a different ROM in the future.
Can anyone please point me in the right direction?
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It's mostly because we already got a root method, so nobody's seen a purpose in putting together a flashable one to experiment on. I'm sure it can be done using the same method which the MF3 stock ROM was made, but someone just has to be willing to flash back to completely stock and run some terminal commands.
EDIT: Found a system dump, just nobody has compiled it into a flashable zip. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47943805&postcount=760
Maybe someone could look at it.
EDIT2: StockUp has a rebloat addon if you want AT&T apps, and comes with all the normal Samsung things. It's probably your best bet. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2498244
DeadlySin9 said:
It's mostly because we already got a root method, so nobody's seen a purpose in putting together a flashable one to experiment on. I'm sure it can be done using the same method which the MF3 stock ROM was made, but someone just has to be willing to flash back to completely stock and run some terminal commands.
EDIT: Found a system dump, just nobody has compiled it into a flashable zip. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47943805&postcount=760
Maybe someone could look at it.
EDIT2: StockUp has a rebloat addon if you want AT&T apps, and comes with all the normal Samsung things. It's probably your best bet. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2498244
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Hopefully a DEV has their original laying around somewhere.
Of course I would prefer to have the KNOX stuff removed. I'm not sure what files to remove to do it myself.
I've seen some ROMs similar to what I am looking for in the Tmobile section here, but they still have stuff like modded or replaced kernels and of course all the Tmobile stuff in them. Would be nice to have the actual AT&T version without KNOX.
Hopefully that wouldn't be asking too much.
DeadlySin9 said:
It's mostly because we already got a root method, so nobody's seen a purpose in putting together a flashable one to experiment on. I'm sure it can be done using the same method which the MF3 stock ROM was made, but someone just has to be willing to flash back to completely stock and run some terminal commands.
EDIT: Found a system dump, just nobody has compiled it into a flashable zip. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47943805&postcount=760
Maybe someone could look at it.
EDIT2: StockUp has a rebloat addon if you want AT&T apps, and comes with all the normal Samsung things. It's probably your best bet. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2498244
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Ok thanks, I'll look into that.
chocodough said:
Hopefully a DEV has their original laying around somewhere.
Of course I would prefer to have the KNOX stuff removed. I'm not sure what files to remove to do it myself.
I've seen some ROMs similar to what I am looking for in the Tmobile section here, but they still have stuff like modded or replaced kernels and of course all the Tmobile stuff in them. Would be nice to have the actual AT&T version without KNOX.
Hopefully that wouldn't be asking too much.
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StockUp has KNOX removed and is based off the AT&T version, and like i said has that rebloat zip with AT&T apps. All you have to do from there is get a 4.3 kernel
This one? have you read it?
MF3 system and boot images, no bootloader so you are safe. Need custom kernels, due to mf3 rom expecting mf3 bootloader and kernel.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2378946
Personal suggestion, don't try the MF3 and stay with GE, update it to 4.3 or 4.4 if you want, because you won't be losing anything going touchwiz and instead will be adding a ton of crap. Even after debloating you will still end up with a ton of crap.
ps. lovely edit system the forum has...
chocodough said:
I still have a MDL bootloader and have been running clean GE ROMs since they came out. I really want to try out AT&T's latest MK2 4.3 official ROM, but it seems no one has just released a clean flashable in CWM rom like I have seen in past releases.
Is it because most people have to use Safestrap now with the newer bootloaders and have no use for flashable MK2 ROMs anymore?
I don't want to upgrade my bootloader by just putting on MK2 the normal way, I want to keep the ability to flash ROMS, but really want to try out a stock MK2 so I can try out the Samsung stuff again.
Sure there are a ton of MK2 ROMs in the forums here, but they are heavily modded with stuff I really don't want. I just want a clean ROM without anyone's MODs except for the usual of removal of the protections that would prevent me from reflashing a different ROM in the future.
Can anyone please point me in the right direction?
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Upgrade bootloader? It seems like a downgrade if it restricts what you can flash. Have you tried the international roms? Sure it won't have the at&t stuff which most people don't want but it'll have the samsung stuff you seem to want. Make sure to flash lokidoki after installing international rom or install an at&t kernal.
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This one? have you read it?
MF3 system and boot images, no bootloader so you are safe. Need custom kernels, due to mf3 rom expecting mf3 bootloader and kernel.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2378946
Personal suggestion, don't try the MF3 and stay with GE, update it to 4.3 or 4.4 if you want, because you won't be losing anything going touchwiz and instead will be adding a ton of crap. Even after debloating you will still end up with a ton of crap.
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He was looking for MK2, not MF3.
crash822 said:
Upgrade bootloader? It seems like a downgrade if it restricts what you can flash. Have you tried the international roms? Sure it won't have the at&t stuff which most people don't want but it'll have the samsung stuff you seem to want. Make sure to flash lokidoki after installing international rom or install an at&t kernal.
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He said he doesn't want to upgrade bootloader, that's why he's looking for a loki 4.3 stock.
Hi guys, I'm wondering if anyone can shed some light on a few things for me.
I have an ATT SGH i-337 MK2 with SafeStrap 3.71
Today I tried to flash PAC ROM and Dirty Unicorn into ROM Slot-1, and upon reboot when the ROM's logo should appear the whole screen just looked like when a nintendo cartridge isn't working. It was just a few crazy colors with some blocks and lines here and there.
Then I tried AOKP with it's Loki'd Kernel being part of the ROM. The nintendo screen came back again, but then the AOKP logo popped up clear as day for a second. Then went back to the lines and colors.
So could this be a problem with Safestrap compatibility? If so, how can I uninstall it? (I did read the dev's thread, and it just says use .APK and IDK what that means)
Or could it be that I also need to use Loki Doki with the other two? (Didn't see anything about that in PAC or DU threads)
Thanks!
Same issues apon using The Samsung Galaxy S4 for Verizon (jfltevzw) Build MK2 rooted using vRoot (English) and using safestrap. if needed I can upload the safestrap apk or version. If I install any type of AOSP ROM the boot logo is either missng or baby blue with wierd static lines. AOKP is the only AOSP ROM that eventually boots (with static boot logo) but no wireless works, and this is the same wether MK2 and/or MJ7 modules are installed or not. the only rom I can successfuly install and use daily that has no bootloader based issues is Hyperdrive ROM For jfltevzw & jflteatt. Any info would be much apreciated!
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^ Interesting. I didn't expect anyone else to have this issue. I never read about it before. I really feel like it has something to do with SafeStrap.
Heath Cliff said:
Hi guys, I'm wondering if anyone can shed some light on a few things for me.
I have an ATT SGH i-337 MK2 with SafeStrap 3.71
Today I tried to flash PAC ROM and Dirty Unicorn into ROM Slot-1, and upon reboot when the ROM's logo should appear the whole screen just looked like when a nintendo cartridge isn't working. It was just a few crazy colors with some blocks and lines here and there.
Then I tried AOKP with it's Loki'd Kernel being part of the ROM. The nintendo screen came back again, but then the AOKP logo popped up clear as day for a second. Then went back to the lines and colors.
So could this be a problem with Safestrap compatibility? If so, how can I uninstall it? (I did read the dev's thread, and it just says use .APK and IDK what that means)
Or could it be that I also need to use Loki Doki with the other two? (Didn't see anything about that in PAC or DU threads)
Thanks!
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If you would have read 1st, then you would know that you can NOT flash any non TW rom on MK2. This is stated over & over on XDA. Safestrap is NOT the problem it is a Godsend from Hashcode for us to be able to flash custom roms onto our locked boot loader devices. Please read before flashing, bricking & then bashing the developers. Follow the directions posted on how to restore your phone, or better yet make a trip to Best Buy & they'll do it for you. Good Luck.
REEEEEEAAAAADDDD!!!!
It's been very well documented that AOSP does not work with safestrap. Neither does loki. There currently is no way/fix to flash AOSP.
So
1. No AOSP or GPE
2. No loki
3. No flashing custom kernels
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John The Rhino said:
If you would have read 1st, then you would know that you can NOT flash any non TW rom on MK2. This is stated over & over on XDA. Safestrap is NOT the problem it is a Godsend from Hashcode for us to be able to flash custom roms onto our locked boot loader devices. Please read before flashing, bricking & then bashing the developers. Follow the directions posted on how to restore your phone, or better yet make a trip to Best Buy & they'll do it for you. Good Luck.
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I did read first. I've been reading this forum for quite a while actually. But there is so much information it's hard to keep it all straight. This ATT stuff is a lot different then my VZW Razr was. That phone was just flash and forget. There are so many different ROM's for this phone now that are 4.3 or KitKat I guess I just didn't realize that, that Android version came with the ROM and was originally something more mod-able stock.
Any way I wasn't bashing SS or Hashcode. I clearly said "compatibility issue" i.e. some programs just don't play well together hence the existence of compatibility mode, virtual machines, and x86 processors. So maybe you should read before bashing novice community members and making yourself look like a big asshole.
And I don't need best buy to fix anything I have a NANDroid, backup on Kies3, and Google+. Besides, I did all of this flashing I on a separate partition so the stock ROM was never altered. Thanks for absolutely nothing at all.
For anyone else that feels like they can move on with me, I would really like to try to install TWRP in place of SS. I'd appreciate any help with how to go about doing that. TIA
Heath Cliff said:
I did read first. I've been reading this forum for quite a while actually. But there is so much information it's hard to keep it all straight. This ATT stuff is a lot different then my VZW Razr was. That phone was just flash and forget. There are so many different ROM's for this phone now that are 4.3 or KitKat I guess I just didn't realize that, that Android version came with the ROM and was originally something more mod-able stock.
Any way I wasn't bashing SS or Hashcode. I clearly said "compatibility issue" i.e. some programs just don't play well together hence the existence of compatibility mode, virtual machines, and x86 processors. So maybe you should read before bashing novice community members and making yourself look like a big asshole.
And I don't need best buy to fix anything I have a NANDroid, backup on Kies3, and Google+. Besides, I did all of this flashing I on a separate partition so the stock ROM was never altered. Thanks for absolutely nothing at all.
For anyone else that feels like they can move on with me, I would really like to try to install TWRP in place of SS. I'd appreciate any help with how to go about doing that. TIA
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Well stating Safestrap may have a compatibility issue is offensive to the developer, especially since you did not read the instructions or posts from other members who did as you. If you would follow the directions it's perfect. I have 4 different roms on my phone + stock to choose from! How cool is that? I understand the overwhelming urge to flash a rom, as I too have been flashing on my Skyrocket since the factory warranty expired last year, and flashing roms is a breeze on that device. However, this S4 is more complicated since the introduction of the KNOX & the LOCKED boot loader. These phones are expensive so unless you really want a $700.00 brick, read, read some more, then read it all again. Safestrap uses TWRP to flash the roms, but TWRP alone is not compatible with MK2 nor is CWM. If you want to flash roms on your ATT MK2 S4 Safestrap is the only way to do that at this writing.
John The Rhino said:
Well stating Safestrap may have a compatibility issue is offensive to the developer, especially since you did not read the instructions or posts from other members who did as you. If you would follow the directions it's perfect. I have 4 different roms on my phone + stock to choose from! How cool is that? I understand the overwhelming urge to flash a rom, as I too have been flashing on my Skyrocket since the factory warranty expired last year, and flashing roms is a breeze on that device. However, this S4 is more complicated since the introduction of the KNOX & the LOCKED boot loader. These phones are expensive so unless you really want a $700.00 brick, read, read some more, then read it all again. Safestrap uses TWRP to flash the roms, but TWRP alone is not compatible with MK2 nor is CWM. If you want to flash roms on your ATT MK2 S4 Safestrap is the only way to do that at this writing.
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Okay, well thank you for that. I just see so many ATT S4's in here with other ROMs and Recoverys I thought I could get something to happen. Anyway, sorry for the poor thread and response. I appreciate the plain blunt fact that SS and the ROMs that work with it are my choices for now. And don't worry about me. The worst that I'd probably get is a soft brick and I've recovered from that before Thanks again
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Okay, well thank you for that. I just see so many ATT S4's in here with other ROMs and Recoverys I thought I could get something to happen. Anyway, sorry for the poor thread and response. I appreciate the plain blunt fact that SS and the ROMs that work with it are my choices for now. And don't worry about me. The worst that I'd probably get is a soft brick and I've recovered from that before Thanks again
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Hey man I totally understand. It's hard to watch all these other roms pop up for the original S4 & we can't flash them. But we no longer have to suffer with only the stock rom option since Hashcode's brilliant Safestrap was released. Once you get use to it, the ability of being able to multi-boot roms really kind of makes up for the locked boot loader. Soon though, we will have 4.4 Kit Kat & then we can start this process of getting off the stock rom all over again. Right? It could be worse, we could have I-phones. We do have a ever growing number of great custom TW based roms available to us here for our device. So try them, you'll be surprised how much better your phone performs. Glad I made sense & forgive my bluntness that's just how us Rhinos roll.
im driving myself insane reading threads and getting confused. i just got an s4 i337 and its running mk2. i really want to run cm11 or atleast a stock aosp rom. im not enjoying touchwiz at all. am i even able to do that? i got saferoot and safestrap but after that im confused.
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im driving myself insane reading threads and getting confused. i just got an s4 i337 and its running mk2. i really want to run cm11 or atleast a stock aosp rom. im not enjoying touchwiz at all. am i even able to do that? i got saferoot and safestrap but after that im confused.
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Negative. Only touchwiz based roms will work with 4.3 MK2.
Your best bet is using an AOSP themed ROM such as blackbox or purified. You can find some more info here... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2616221
Or, more simply, install a new launcher such as apex or nova and then you won't have to worry about touchwiz
That's extremely disappointing. I'm really starting to hate this phone and I think I'm going to call att tomorrow and see if I can get something else. Perhaps an htc one or lg g2. But this isn't going to work out. This is not the level of customization I want. Touch wiz goes deeper than just the launcher, and what happens in another year or two when att stops providing updates? No, I'm done and I don't want this thing anymore. Bad ATT and bad Samsung.
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im driving myself insane reading threads and getting confused. i just got an s4 i337 and its running mk2. i really want to run cm11 or atleast a stock aosp rom. im not enjoying touchwiz at all. am i even able to do that? i got saferoot and safestrap but after that im confused.
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I'm no expert, but anything other than MDB and MDL means a locked bootloader. AFAIK that means, all safestrap does is let you load a different rom, but that rom has to be based on the touchwiz kernel. That means no AOSP and that means no CM11. I'm in the same boat.
Hello,
Sorry to revive this after several months of inactivity, but I have exactly the same problem and am confused by the information I have found on XDA, possibly a fault of my own. I have a Galaxy S4 AT&T i337 with MK2 4.3, and I want to run CM11.
A much much more tech savvy friend of mine setup my phone in January 2013 with CM11 using the TWRP recovery. It originally was just the AT&T stock everything. Unfortunately, I no longer have contact with him, and I have no idea how he did any of this . I was specifically running the build from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2383143, which is now here: http://www.handy-faq.de/forum/galax...h_app2sd_glove_mode_dual_boot_for_all_s4.html
Since then it updated automatically to the last nightlies without any issues. Two days ago, however, I updated, and my phone went into a boot loop. I booted into recovery and tried to flash the last version that worked, but that resulted in my phone staying in a boot loop without being able to boot into recovery. I then used Odin to flash the original firmware and stock ROM, and now it works fine, but I miss CM11 very badly (or more accurately I find the stock ROM annoying in comparison).
The previous posts here indicate that CM11 cannot be installed on the i337 MK2. Also, this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=42320414&postcount=2 lead me to this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2428254 which says "Also, at this time, only TW based ROMs will work with SS. CM, AOSP, AOKP, MIUI, etc will not work." But I do not actually understand the difference between Safestrap and TWRP enough to know whether or not Safestrap not allowing CM11 means this model won't allow CM11 at all.
I would like to understand why there is indication that CM11 cannot be put on the i337 MK2 when my friend somehow succeeded. Then perhaps we can succeed in devising a method to install CM11 on this model. I apologize for not having any proof that it worked, but I swear I ran CM11 on this exact model and firmware build for many months very happily.
Does anyone have any thoughts on this discrepancy? Sorry if this is a naive/stupid post. Thanks in advance to anyone who chimes in.