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Hey I'm new to the forums but been reading them for a while and I just have a question with OTA updates. I have a nexus 4 that's been rooted and have clockwork mod. I have also flashed the .33 baseband on 4.2.2. I have stock rom but Franco kernel however I backed up the stock kernel with his updater app.
I know I can't OTA with the kernel but flashing the stock one is no big deal. Can I OTA with the rest being on there?
Also if I do the lte wifi hotspot fix will that stop the OTA update as well?
Thanks in advance.
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As long you have clockwork mod on the rom you can not OTA...its always going to be manual way of flashing the OTA and that process will remove clockwork mod but using apps like voodoo keeps you rooted so you can easily install clockwork mod again after the update.
No Recovery+Stock ROM+Stock Kernel+Stock Latest Radio= auto OTA update.
I hope that made sense..but i could be wrong but that's what works for me.
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Helderg1984 said:
Hey I'm new to the forums but been reading them for a while and I just have a question with OTA updates. I have a nexus 4 that's been rooted and have clockwork mod. I have also flashed the .33 baseband on 4.2.2. I have stock rom but Franco kernel however I backed up the stock kernel with his updater app.
I know I can't OTA with the kernel but flashing the stock one is no big deal. Can I OTA with the rest being on there?
Also if I do the lte wifi hotspot fix will that stop the OTA update as well?
Thanks in advance.
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You CAN ota if you have a custom recovery.
However, the WiFi hotspot fix will kill it.
I made a guide with all the info you need. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2145848
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So if anything is modded at all except for basic root I won't be able to apply the update that arrives to my phone directly right? I will have to flash it in cwm? I assume I will have to wipe cache and such before I apply the zip right?
Do I have to revert anything back stock or can I just flash the zip directly over what I have now and just re apply the kernel and baseband?
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Sorry one more thing with the latest SU I will stay rooted I think but I will lose cwm and have to re obtain it or will I keep it if survival mode is checked?
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Helderg1984 said:
Sorry one more thing with the latest SU I will stay rooted I think but I will lose cwm and have to re obtain it or will I keep it if survival mode is checked?
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If you flash it from CWM then you will keep CWM and also keep root (if you say yes when it asks you).
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Sorry I am a bit confused still, when I get the update.zip and flash it in CWM do I have to wipe or no? and if I don't will everything stay the same? or will I lose my 0.33 baseband and kernel? I'm also wanting to do the lte hotspot fix so would I lose that too?
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If you flash it from CWM then you will keep CWM and also keep root (if you say yes when it asks you).
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Helderg1984 said:
Sorry I am a bit confused still, when I get the update.zip and flash it in CWM do I have to wipe or no? and if I don't will everything stay the same? or will I lose my 0.33 baseband and kernel? I'm also wanting to do the lte hotspot fix so would I lose that too?
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You don't have to wipe.It does not matter if you wipe or not, you will still lose your base band, you'll just have to flash the old baseband again. As for the kernel if the ota comes with a new kernel your old stock kernel will be replaced with the new one in the ota.
You actually can accept a ota update with a custom recovery but you have to be stock everything else, no other mods or anything. The ota will install fine and youll see that it goes through your custom recovery when updating. After the update you will lose root and your custom recovery however unless you recovery someone holds onto it.
As I know, we need to modify something after installing custom recovery. Else, stock recovery will be installed upon reboot. So even after modifying, OTA still works ?
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You actually can accept a ota update with a custom recovery but you have to be stock everything else, no other mods or anything. The ota will install fine and youll see that it goes through your custom recovery when updating. After the update you will lose root and your custom recovery however unless you recovery someone holds onto it.
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So bascially no matter what i have on the phone update.zip will go through fine and put on the phone what it contains and it's up to me to put everything back? Also I've heard mixed opinions if I will lose root and CWM, mostly people say it will give me an option to keep it after applyng the update.
heat361 said:
You don't have to wipe.It does not matter if you wipe or not, you will still lose your base band, you'll just have to flash the old baseband again. As for the kernel if the ota comes with a new kernel your old stock kernel will be replaced with the new one in the ota.
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heat361 said:
You don't have to wipe.It does not matter if you wipe or not, you will still lose your base band, you'll just have to flash the old baseband again. As for the kernel if the ota comes with a new kernel your old stock kernel will be replaced with the new one in the ota.
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Everything about this post is incorrect.
I don't mean to be a jerk but I've seen you post a lot of false info lately. I know you'd like to help, but it only confuses people when they see contradictory info.
Helderg1984 said:
So bascially no matter what i have on the phone update.zip will go through fine and put on the phone what it contains and it's up to me to put everything back? Also I've heard mixed opinions if I will lose root and CWM, mostly people say it will give me an option to keep it after applying the update.
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Just read the thread I linked earlier. It has answers to your questions.
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El Daddy said:
Everything about this post is incorrect.
I don't mean to be a jerk but I've seen you post a lot of false info lately. I know you'd like to help, but it only confuses people when they see contradictory info.
Just read the thread I l
Can you tell me what's wrong with what I said? I was assuming he was on stock rooted with a custom recovery. Is it not true that if you get an ota update and it contains a new baseband and new stock kernel it will overwrite the last last stock kernel and baseband.
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heat361 said:
El Daddy said:
Everything about this post is incorrect.
I don't mean to be a jerk but I've seen you post a lot of false info lately. I know you'd like to help, but it only confuses people when they see contradictory info.
Just read the thread I l
Can you tell me what's wrong with what I said? I was assuming he was on stock rooted with a custom recovery. Is it not true that if you get an ota update and it contains a new baseband and new stock kernel it will overwrite the last last stock kernel and baseband.
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No it doesn't overwrite anything. It just fails.
OTA's contain patches. Not complete files. If the original file isn't there it will abort.
I can see how this can be confusing because it is different from custom roms.
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But thats only if he has the lte fix right. So if he just flashes a stock kernel without that patch, the ota could work.
For example the stock boot.img
I'm rooted with cwm, custom kernel and old baseband, stock rom. I mean I can very easily revert my kernel back to stock and flash the newest baseband.
The only thing is there's a bunch of stuff I might want to do more but don't want to make it hard to update since it's important to me.
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heat361 said:
But thats only if he has the lte fix right. So if he just flashes a stock kernel without that patch, the ota could work.
For example the stock boot.img
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Yep. The phone needs to be 100% stock with the exception of the recovery to complete the OTA. If the files,kernel,radio, etc. are replaced to the original state you'd be good to go.
PS. Sorry if I came off as a jerk this morning. I had a case of the Mondays.
Helderg1984 said:
I'm rooted with cwm, custom kernel and old baseband, stock rom. I mean I can very easily revert my kernel back to stock and flash the newest baseband.
The only thing is there's a bunch of stuff I might want to do more but don't want to make it hard to update since it's important to me.
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Just as I wrote above, You can do as many modifications as you want, just make sure you bring the phone back to stock before you flash the OTA.zip, otherwise it will fail.
When the new OTA comes out I will update my OTA Help-Desk thread with all the new requirements.
Helderg1984 said:
So bascially no matter what i have on the phone update.zip will go through fine and put on the phone what it contains and it's up to me to put everything back? Also I've heard mixed opinions if I will lose root and CWM, mostly people say it will give me an option to keep it after applyng the update.
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Just watch this its eazy as 1 2 3!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ky5miA8ilr0
so i just had to odin to factory stock because i was in the boot loop into download. but i stupidly updated the software thinking it would update me to something other than mf3....that was not the case. it put me right into mf3. should i odin back to stock and just root and recov from there? or can i just root to customize. i have no problem starting from scratch but some advise would be great!!! please and thanks!!
If it updated you to MF3 you at this time can not Odin back to stock out of the box.root is possible but no recovery or Roms so please don't be a static of the "I bricked my phone"section. Read/research till your eyes dry up and burn
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jball said:
If it updated you to MF3 you at this time can not Odin back to stock out of the box.root is possible but no recovery or Roms so please don't be a static of the "I bricked my phone"section. Read/research till your eyes dry up and burn
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is there a way to debloat the stock rom? also is the root process the same??
To b honest I haven't checked out how to root MF3 cause I've managed to stay away from the OTA update,I m still MDL base. As far as debloating without flashing a zip I believe u can use titanium backup the long way.my model is ATT I337 S4 but the Rom I m on makes it a I9505 S4. I check on xda everyday to c if/when they will get the bootloader unlocked so we can go back to stock anytime we want.please don't quote me and I hope u can achieve what u want till it is fully unlocked.
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jball said:
To b honest I haven't checked out how to root MF3 cause I've managed to stay away from the OTA update,I m still MEL base. As far as debloating without flashing a zip I believe u can use titanium backup the long way.my model is ATT I337 S4 but the Rom I m on makes it a I9505 S4. I check on crash everyday to c if/when they will get the bootloader unlocked so we can go back to stock anytime we want.please don't quote me and I hope u can achieve what u want till it is fully unlocked.
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MDL not MEL and not crash but xda. The auto spell on my phone sucks sometimes
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Thanks alot. ill try to be patient as i am a flash freak and get bored of roms so easily.
I m also a flashaholic. I still mess with my I777 S2 just to get my fix
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achang9523 said:
is there a way to debloat the stock rom? also is the root process the same??
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without root, you can simply disable the apps you don't want to use. if you want to root your phone, you can use titanium backup to freeze the apps. everyone is saying freeze and not uninstall because there is no current method to restore our phone on mf3 update. so if you screw something up you're ****ed. I personally used rom toolbox pro to backup all the apps to an external sd, then I deleted them from the phone and haven't had any issues that I'm aware of
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is there a way to debloat the stock rom? also is the root process the same??
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Search for rooting with MF3. There is a way, but there is no custom recovery. If you do root your phone and begin removing bloatware, you may cause irreversible damage since there is no way to odin back to stock.
I would wait until we have a way to install a custom recovery.
Root is possible, bloatware removal possible. Just be extremely careful what you delete or install for that matter, because currently there is no recovery at the moment for MF3 because of the locked bootloader. [email protected] You AT&T [email protected] You!
Hey guys
Quick question here guys, im a complete noob on android. Ive rooted my phone, and have installed greenify, titanium backup, and clockworkmod recovery software. I read somewhere i should have made a back up copy before rooting. Is it too late to unroot, or can i still do it now? Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
The general idea is to to root, install a custom recovery and make a backup before you proceed with installing any new root-access apps, roms, etc. Backups (nandroids) are made in a custom recovery like twrp or, in your case, cwm. Cheers
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xBeerdroiDx said:
The general idea is to to root, install a custom recovery and make a backup before you proceed with installing any new root-access apps, roms, etc. Backups (nandroids) are made in a custom recovery like twrp or, in your case, cwm. Cheers
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awesome thanks, just did it and it worked fine!
thanks
xBeerdroiDx said:
The general idea is to to root, install a custom recovery and make a backup before you proceed with installing any new root-access apps, roms, etc. Backups (nandroids) are made in a custom recovery like twrp or, in your case, cwm. Cheers
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Is it too late to make a backup if I've done all that stuff? Wow I've got gaps in my knowledge as a noob.
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Wittyusernametaken said:
Is it too late to make a backup if I've done all that stuff? Wow I've got gaps in my knowledge as a noob.
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If your already rooted and have MDL/MDB bootloaders and a custom rom you can make a nandroid backup at anytime. This is good practice whenever switching Roms performing a backup before flashing a new rom. It gives you something to restore in case you have issues with the new rom or just don't like it and want to be back to where you were before. Think of a nandroud backup as an ISO IMAGE where everything is saved/restored exactly like the point you made the backup.
Now if you WANT to save a backup if the stock firmware right after you rooted it then no you cannot just do that easily. To do it you will need to Odin back to the stock firmware (MDB/MDL firmwares) then re root your phone, make a backup, then flash the Roms you want.
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RockRatt said:
If your already rooted and have MDL/MDB bootloaders and a custom rom you can make a nandroid backup at anytime. This is good practice whenever switching Roms performing a backup before flashing a new rom. It gives you something to restore in case you have issues with the new rom or just don't like it and want to be back to where you were before. Think of a nandroud backup as an ISO IMAGE where everything is saved/restored exactly like the point you made the backup.
Now if you WANT to save a backup if the stock firmware right after you rooted it then no you cannot just do that easily. To do it you will need to Odin back to the stock firmware (MDB/MDL firmwares) then re root your phone, make a backup, then flash the Roms you want.
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Well darn. I'm running stock mdl. Haven't tried a custom rom because I don't have a external storage card, not to mention after using Titanium and greenify and whatnot I've pretty much got it how I want it at this point. Oh well live and learn. Thank you for the information. There's so much I'm trying to learn post iPhone 5.
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I did some searching of the forums, but didn't find what I was looking for. I have an AT&T S4, currently on the MDL firmware and rooted with TWRP. So that puts me two updates behind now and I'd really like to update.
So the question is, what would be the best way to go about updating to the latest official firmware, while retaining root? I can do without recovery if necessary, but I really want to keep root. I'd prefer to do this in a way where I avoid having to do a clean install and back up everything, then restore. I'd like to update in a way that keeps settings and applications as they are, as an official OTA update would do.
Is this possible?
Stay where you are and run a custom firmware!
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HiTideBlastoise said:
Stay where you are and run a custom firmware!
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I thought about it, but I actually like the Touchwiz ROMs, as odd as it may sound.
Why you flash a custom touch wiz rom? Trust me, only being able to root in a still sketchy/kinda legimate way is not worth it
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HiTideBlastoise said:
Why you flash a custom touch wiz rom? Trust me, only being able to root in a still sketchy/kinda legimate way is not worth it
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I want the official Samsung update, just with root capability. So that I can still use programs which require root (such as TitaniumBackup, Avast's Anti-Theft, AdAway, GameKiller, etc.). I've seen on the forums that people have proceeded to the latest update while retaining their root, but I haven't found how yet.
Gamer_Josh said:
I want the official Samsung update, just with root capability. So that I can still use programs which require root (such as TitaniumBackup, Avast's Anti-Theft, AdAway, GameKiller, etc.). I've seen on the forums that people have proceeded to the latest update while retaining their root, but I haven't found how yet.
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try this if you want to get back to 100% stock and update : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=33953446&postcount=1 . Works on most Samsung devices
Gamer_Josh said:
I want the official Samsung update, just with root capability. So that I can still use programs which require root (such as TitaniumBackup, Avast's Anti-Theft, AdAway, GameKiller, etc.). I've seen on the forums that people have proceeded to the latest update while retaining their root, but I haven't found how yet.
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Just wait, run StockUp, or a 4.3 rom for the international version. If you want Touchwiz, you can get one of those and if you really want the OTA wait until someone creates a version that doesn't update your bootloader so you can still have the option to change. If you really do want it, then flash the stock firmware and go through the updates, making sure you root after you get MF3 and then use SuperSU survival before updating to MK2.
DeadlySin9 said:
Just wait, run StockUp, or a 4.3 rom for the international version. If you want Touchwiz, you can get one of those and if you really want the OTA wait until someone creates a version that doesn't update your bootloader so you can still have the option to change. If you really do want it, then flash the stock firmware and go through the updates, making sure you root after you get MF3 and then use SuperSU survival before updating to MK2.
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Is there now a way to retain root when updating from MDL to MF3 via OTA? Becuase I already am stock, I just need to unfreeze the files that allow for OTA updating.
Yes there is a way.use Supersu pro and enable Survival mode and it will retain root .we would all move the world to go back to MDL is why people are trying to persuade you to use a rom. (ENVY)
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So, I'm rooted, but haven't installed any custom roms yet since they all seem to have lots of bugs.
Basically, once M drops, I won't be able to install an OTA update, right? So how will I be able to just run rooted stock, like I am now?
Realize I should probably just cross that bridge when I get to it, but thanks in advance
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Cowbell_Guy said:
So, I'm rooted, but haven't installed any custom roms yet since they all seem to have lots of bugs.
Basically, once M drops, I won't be able to install an OTA update, right? So how will I be able to just run rooted stock, like I am now?
Realize I should probably just cross that bridge when I get to it, but thanks in advance
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You will get the OTA but it will not get installed on your phone as you have modified system. I was also on Stock Rooted but i had the Nandroid backup of my unmodified system i.e. the backup before i flashed the SuperSU zip. If you also have the backup of you system that you can restore it and flash the stock recovery , then you will be good to go for MM update.
Hmmm... What if I didn't save the backup of my stock unrooted?
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There will be a stock rooted rom posted once OTA is released, you flash it just like any other rom. You might need to flash updated firmware as well.
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Cowbell_Guy said:
Hmmm... What if I didn't save the backup of my stock unrooted?
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You can use the restore to stock tool.
If you have flashed TWRP just restore stock recovery and ota should work then. The reason it would fail other wise is because it is detecting the non-stock recovery. Having an unlocked bootloader shouldn't matter though don't take my word on that.
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Orion116 said:
If you have flashed TWRP just restore stock recovery and ota should work then. The reason it would fail other wise is because it is detecting the non-stock recovery. Having an unlocked bootloader shouldn't matter though don't take my word on that.
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OP says that he has rooted his stock ROM. So i guess he has to restore whole system.
are you sure its not going to take the OTA, in my past experience which dates way back ( been a nexus warrior for years now) you can apply the update as long as you haven't modified anything with the stock apps, so if you removed any of the google office like apps then it would fail. but if you just rooted and just did stuff like greenify or titanium backup it would work
Cowbell_Guy said:
So, I'm rooted, but haven't installed any custom roms yet since they all seem to have lots of bugs.
Basically, once M drops, I won't be able to install an OTA update, right? So how will I be able to just run rooted stock, like I am now?
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No, you won't be able to install an OTA update, because you're rooted (and have a custom recovery, like TWRP).
When Marshmallow becomes available, you'll either flash an update like any other ROM. Or, you can restore your phone to stock condition (using Restore to Stock tool), and then get an OTA update from there.
In either case, always assume worst-case scenario where you'll lose all your data; and will need to reload applications + data after the update, however you choose to get it done.
Seems like it would be easiest to just flash a zip file. Will there be an official one?
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Seems like it would be easiest to just flash a zip file. Will there be an official one?
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Sure there will be one sooner than later. Just probably not same day as it might come out. Just takes devs a couple days and I can bet they will have a stock rooted rom to flash. I am in same boat. I don't want to take the jump to the early indian build. Just seems to buggy atm. Just have to have patience. Devs work wonders and for that I thank them.
Full unroot with supersu will it work?
On my 2013 X I was able to take the OTA. There are two main concerns:
Xposed will need to be removed if it is installed. There used to be a zip you could flash, but here are manual instructions http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58964632&postcount=2262
TWRP will need to be replaced with the stock recovery, else the update will put you into a boot loop.
I did not have to remove the SuperSU binaries or re-flash system, but if you have the time it is the safest option.
OK, so now its real... What have you all been doing?
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