Bluetooth audio quality sounds distorted/fuzzy! [4.2.2 Stock Firmware] - G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey,
I'm having annoying problems with the bluetooth audio. The audio sounds distorted/fuzzy and is very easy to hear in certain songs
when the chorus or similar kicks in. I used the same headset with my Xperia Z and there was no audio quality problems.
I have also tested other bluetooth devices and its the same stuff going on...
Here is the funny part - when I flash CM11 and try the bluetooth-sound, the quality is perfect!
So I'm pretty damn sure its an software releated issue... I could just use CM11 ofcourse but the problem is then I miss out on other stock features I like
One song that shows this audio problem very clear is: Papa Roach - Leader Of The Broken Hearts. Spotify link here!
I've also tried to mess around some with ViPER4Android but with no good results...
Anyone has any good ideas?

Nobody has nothing to say on this matter? :victory:

I agree. Stock Bluetooth was terrible. Been using Viper for a while now... It's very good, when it's working. Even as a system app, it's being stopped and then it restarts a couple seconds later. Enable aptx in terminal and see if that helps. My head unit is old, so it did nothing for me.
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ffejy462 said:
I agree. Stock Bluetooth was terrible. Been using Viper for a while now... It's very good, when it's working. Even as a system app, it's being stopped and then it restarts a couple seconds later. Enable aptx in terminal and see if that helps. My head unit is old, so it did nothing for me.
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Still have this strange high-ends distortions with/without ViPER, and it crashes all the time as you say.
My LG G2 original box says phone has Aptx enabled? I don't know if it matters though, my Sony Smart Wireless headset Pro (MW1) doesn't have Aptx support. However MW1 sounded great on Xperia Z and other various phones so I blame LG for fu**ing up the bluetooth drivers xD
My best bet right now is hoping for the 4.4 update to fix this problem. If not - this is a dealbreaker (change phone) to me because I listen to music via bluetooth all the time!

Crashes is a pretty song word. I'd say it's being stopped by the os. I've been having better luck with Viper audio after changing some kernel settings. Interactive Gov, read ahead buffer to 2048, and min frequency at 628. Viper had an update last week also. I've read some irs convolver settings don't like being used as system app. Been using a thx convolver with good luck lately.
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my bluetooth is flawless even without any tweaks (and judging by many threads here regarding it, it seems to be a compatibility issue rather than LG "screwing something up" ) but have you tried this:
enabling AptX codec:
1. adb shell
2. su
3. setprop persist.service.btui.use_aptx 1
check that property was changed:
4. getprop persist.service.btui.use_aptx
you should get "1"
reboot the phone and check bluetooth sound quality.
to eliminate Viper being killed by the system just make it a system app and make sure you followed the installation instructions (including the build.prop tweaks if necessary).

mannequin said:
my bluetooth is flawless even without any tweaks (and judging by many threads here regarding it, it seems to be a compatibility issue rather than LG "screwing something up" ) but have you tried this:
enabling AptX codec:
1. adb shell
2. su
3. setprop persist.service.btui.use_aptx 1
check that property was changed:
4. getprop persist.service.btui.use_aptx
you should get "1"
reboot the phone and check bluetooth sound quality.
to eliminate Viper being killed by the system just make it a system app and make sure you followed the installation instructions (including the build.prop tweaks if necessary).
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A compability issue IS something that LG screwed up. This is the first Android phone I have with such useless bluetooth sound quality
I have tried to enable Aptx and got the result 1 but since the headset only supports A2DP it will not matter I think. I got ViPER4Android to work as well but the sound is still bad... I mean some parts sounds really good and clear but some parts where the high ends are kicking in loud the sound gets distorted

Still haven't solved this, good thing CM11 works pretty decent. It lacks some awesome stock features but the audio is nice so I can live with it

"I have a similar issue in my 2011 Hyundai Genesis Coupe. The static is only present during loud levels on songs, not at all times during the track. Seems like it is most noticeable on the higher frequencies also. Please reply here if your issue is the same.
I did not have this problem on my HTC One X in the same car.
I have searched all over Android and Hyundai forums and found little to work with. What I have found is that this is not affecting everyone, otherwise it would be all over the forums. I appears to me that it is related to our cars bluetooth receivers and how they communicate with the phone.
I found some posts from a user CBaronne where he had what appeared to be the same issue on another phone and modified the "Bitpool" value with good results. He wanted to do the same on this phone but the variable is buried in a system file and modifying it was beyond his expertise.
I have also flashed several sound mods with no success, as well as different tricks to ensure that APT X is enabled. Nothing has helped.
I think until we get a developer with this phone and has this issue there will not be any attempt made to resolve. You can always just buy another car..."
I have been posting this comment in several threads to try an get some attention on it. This issue is not common enough for it to have consistent comments or investigation.
Other threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47418870#post47418870
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47423589#post47423589
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=49735305#post49735305
Reading other Android forums and Hyundai threads it DOES appear to be a compatibility issue, meaning that it is about the combination of two devices, it does not affect every G2 bluetooth connection. From the first link I posted it DOES appear that if we can adjust the bitpool values of the G2 we could improve the quality.

I have this same problem with my vw Jetta. My nexus 4 sounded amazing and now this g2 sounds like sh*t.
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Okey, so I finally got so pissed off about this - that I got an HTC One, coming with 4.2.2 pre-installed.
Funny thing is this phone had more or less the same bluetooth-audio problems in 4.2.2.
However when I did the update to 4.3 on the HTC One the sound quality became perfect! I also installed 4.4.2 recently on the HTC, but sound is still great whatsoever.
So if HTC didn't fix this in 4.3 by themselves, its probably a bluetooth-fix coming with 4.3+, which means ppl just have to sit tight for official 4.4.x or use CM11 meanwhile.
Offtopic: I don't really miss the LG G2 luckily, HTC One feels more premium in hand and the UI is very fast and well designed. The loss of better hardware specs is just some words on a paper. Hell, I would say the HTC One even feels snappier!

I bought a BT 'headset' type thingy from Amazon that has APT-x on it as my current one is old and it has always sounded terrible via BT compared to wired.
The list of all APT-x BT stereo headphones is here... APT-X Headphone list. I found another list, but, it linked back to each individual page on this list, lol.
The one I chose to buy, primarily based on price, but also on user reviews was this one... BlueAnt Ribbon
I didn't want a big 'Beats' type deal, so it had to be a small model. The only ones I could find to buy in the US at a 'reasonable' price of $24 was the BlueAnt Ribbon and the HTC bluetooth stereo headphones. The HTC cost about twice as much with shipping. Mainly because the product is not (yet?) available in the US and the HTC is shipped from Taiwan after buying on Ebay.
There is a really slick silver looking dealy, but, I don't have $120 to blow on something that will likely function in the same capacity, but, looks cooler. Maybe when I spend more time making money and less time trolling XDA forums I can buy them, lol.

i know this is dragging a old thread up a bit but im having the same issues with my sony car stereo, it sounds as if bitrate is low and when you hit a high point in song its distorted crackly and hissy
has anyone found any solutions to this on 4.4.2 or is cm still the only decent fix? i like the LG features but i think all the decent ones have been ported over
any help would be amazing

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[MOD]Beats-Flashable-Sense 3.0+

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original post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1308993
Just sharing the news.
smokin1337 said:
I personally didn't think beats was all that great but alot of users like it so i made this flashable version for my rom. Figure everyone else would enjoy it as well. It does replace some files though such as services.jar and framework.jar. I have only tested it with my rom but it should work with any rom but i suggest making a nandroid backup just in case.
This is the full beats with icons and eveything
Now with HotSpot working (Thanks Leoisright)
Sense Roms ONLY
Anyways just flash it in recovery and enjoy
Now has universal updater-script so it can be flashed on any device But probably will not work so try at your own risk !!
A few have reported that it flashes on other devices and it boots so it may just work on some.
This is developed for the Evo 3D it is on the portal and because of my title it says for ANY Sense rom but it was made for the 3d. but if you want to try it on other devices i strongly recommend a nandroid backup before testing. I'll be looking into the possibility of multiple devices soon. Sorry for the confusion..
If you are getting FC with Music try the FC-FIX and see if it works and post if it did or not. I am trying to figure out what the problem is
ORIGINAL Download (First boot may take some time, Be patient !!):
Beats-HotSpot-signed.zip - 7.9 MB​
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Here are links to the files with update-script for our phone that I know work.
Post in this thread only to confirm working and to discuss the effects. Post in the original thread for support.
WARNING:​
1st boot will take extra time.
It might possibly screw up your phone. MAKE A BACK UP.
If your running a theme, ask your themer to incorporate this.
Dont ***** if it doesnt work.
Download ----
TB-Beats
TB-beats fix (only flash if you are seeing fc's in music app
I'm currently running gingeritis 3D and Chingy ported this over in his ROM, now I hear a slight difference but i assume by HTC it was made to best be heard using beats earphones/headphones. Have you tried this and confirmed it working?
Yeah. most are saying its best used with Beats headphones. But those already have amplified bass. So I dunno if they are just thinking it works better or not.
I cant flash it on my phone (well not yet at least) the stock music player wont load on my. I broke it somehow. . I do however own a set of very nice headphones that are better audio quality than 'Beats' but cant test the new audio stuff yet... Would be nice to get a little deeper bass with stock music app (once I reflash a clean ROM)
What difference did you notice?
bad4u6669 said:
Yeah. most are saying its best used with Beats headphones. But those already have amplified bass. So I dunno if they are just thinking it works better or not.
I cant flash it on my phone (well not yet at least) the stock music player wont load on my. I broke it somehow. . I do however own a set of very nice headphones that are better audio quality than 'Beats' but cant test the new audio stuff yet... Would be nice to get a little deeper bass with stock music app (once I reflash a clean ROM)
What difference did you notice?
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a very slight difference on stock ported gingeritis, but when time permits I'll make a backup and flash this and test it out. Hope someone has tried or is trying this and keep us informed, I also read from adrynalyne that 95% of the beats ports where fake so...I'm not sure if this on a software level or if this includes hardware.
Most people commenting in the original thread are saying they hear a difference. But it might be all in their head.
As far as trying this out, he stated this was is based off desire HD roms because of the sense 3.0. And Im pretty sure our roms are also based off the Desire HD rom for the sense 3.0. So theoretically it should work... but we all know how well those go... Hense all the warnings i put in the OP.
All it is is some compression and.altered eq...maybe a bit of gain....on a pair of studio monitors it.makes everything sound ****ty but for a pair of cheapo headphones it might have some benefit, I also noticed it accentuated audio clicks, glitches, things that overshadow the whole objective of the app/dsp in the first place.
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The CPU usage is also unreasonable.
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This is kind of useless unless you have a beats optimized output device
You should have killed me, when you had the chance
Read this
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/13/htc-sensation-xe-with-beats-audio-review/
Go to the software part, it tells you pretty much what "beats audio" does to the output. That being said, I have a pair of beats pro's and *maybe* noticed a tiny difference at the most. Most likely all this does is take the stock EQ and bump it up in certain places, if it actually does anything at all.
No go on synergy r267. Shows install went ok. Cleared davlik and cache.
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shadowpunx said:
This is kind of useless unless you have a beats optimized output device
You should have killed me, when you had the chance
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that made me LOL. Beats optimized output device...? So... over priced headphones?
I tried the beat mod on chingys Gingeritis. It does slightly increase the mid bass. That was the most noticeable change, well besides the fact it also greatly increases the hi's so the sound doesn't become muddy. And as stated before you will definitely hear crackling on max volume.
I have played audio out both to my car stereo via head phone jack and to my headphones (definitely not cheapys, and better than any "optimized beats equipment") Its all the same noticeable difference. I haven't tried on my cheap ear buds yet, but will give them a good run tomorrow when I take my street bike out for a Sunday put put.
Using this mod does disable the stock EQ that is built into htc music app. or at least it did on my phone.
I will officially classify this mod as 80% hype and 20% function.
If you have anything professional you wont need to eq anything that was recorded and mastered properly. I promise.
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Its not like I need more bass or high end out of a radiohead album, the Guy who's best at deciding the equal of everything already determined that. All of this post processing bull**** is just to make wank headphones sound "Fuller" "richer" but by no means more accurate, and to be honest a complete waste of CPU.
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bad4u6669 said:
that made me LOL. Beats optimized output device...? So... over priced headphones?
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I wrote this on rootz, figured I would share it here too.
People seem to forget what beats are about. They don't make the music sound "better" they make it sound "clearer". You want "better" sounding music then yes, the others do a good job of that. But if you want to hear the music, how it sounds to artists in a studio, without extra filters, eq's, etc. put on by Bose, Sony, and the other manufacturers, then Beats are the way to go. I'm going to guess none of you have ever been inside a real studio (not your friend's basment with a mic and a padded wall, that isn't a studio) so you saying that beats don't do this, and are all marketing bs, don't really know what you are talking about.
I have had the Solos, sold them and got the Studio's, and sold them and now have the Pro's and I can say I have never heard music clearer before than I have with these. Want to know why the base sounds "deeper" or the treble is "louder" with other headphones? Because that's how they are made. Beats are made to sound exactly how the artist made the song in the studio and wanted people to hear it.
/endrant
I am an audio production major, my school has a multi million dollar studio and no one uses beats. AKG, SENNHEISER, AUDIO TECHNICA are the three major brands for lower end accurate audio reproduction. Truly "clear" headphones are electrostatic such as the ~$1000 stax in Japan, they require their own amp. I think its hillarious that you think beats (which have over accentuated lows and highs...to give compressed music come off of a ****ty audio driver (like the tbolt) a bigger richer sound? More accurate? Absolutely not recessed mids are guarunteed when you "eq" a set of headphones like beats chose to do. The most hillarious part is were in a discussion thread talking about a plugin that does that same eq/compression/gain bull**** and above poster is repping beats to be about accurate sound reproduction. You obviously know a lot less about audio than you pretend to....
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Not to mention with all of the money they put towards marketing, Justin bieber beats, p diddy beats, lady GaGa beats....its obvious that its directed at the commercial consumer market, NOT FOR THE AUDIOPHILE/PRODUCER. Go test a pair of ATH-M50s if you don't believe me...
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Case and point, beats useless, if you really know how you want your music to sound use playerpro with dsp pack, if your getting cracking, then lower your preamp and get a better output. My brother works the sound board for the starland ballroom in nj, very big venue, and I'm assistant production manager. We have had everyone from Justin bieber to as I lay dying. Beats that you guys are using isn't even the true beats that comes with whatever phones its coming with these days. Do some research and you'll find that out
You should have killed me, when you had the chance
And what I mean by beats optimized is its set up to work best with the way beats headphones are set up...is that alittle easier to understand?
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Bluetooth crackling w/my JVC Car Stereo [SOLVED]

My JVC worked fine with all my other phones.
But with the S3, I get lots of crackling sound whenever I use bluetooth from the SIII. I still get the music, there is just crackling that goes along with it.
I've tried stock ROM and several other ROM's & kernels, including AOKP and CM9. No change in the problem at all.
Gonna take the SIII to AT&T tomorrow to have them replace it, unless someone else has a better suggestion.
CZ Eddie said:
My JVC worked fine with all my other phones.
But with the S3, I get lots of crackling sound whenever I use bluetooth from the SIII. I still get the music, there is just crackling that goes along with it.
I've tried stock ROM and several other ROM's & kernels, including AOKP and CM9. No change in the problem at all.
Gonna take the SIII to AT&T tomorrow to have them replace it, unless someone else has a better suggestion.
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I have the Tunelink bluetooth adapter for iphone/android, and it works fine with my verizon GSIII. No crackling, perfect audio.
I am not having any bt problems with my pioneer deck
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CZ Eddie said:
My JVC worked fine with all my other phones.
But with the S3, I get lots of crackling sound whenever I use bluetooth from the SIII. I still get the music, there is just crackling that goes along with it.
I've tried stock ROM and several other ROM's & kernels, including AOKP and CM9. No change in the problem at all.
Gonna take the SIII to AT&T tomorrow to have them replace it, unless someone else has a better suggestion.
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I've owned 3 different android phones and have experienced crackling in high frequencies with every single bluetooth device I've tested. Headphones, car audio docks, portable a2dp receivers... all complete sh1t. This is due to A2DP audio compression codec which producers these artifacts when audio stream becomes too complex for it to handle. No worries tho, as SGS3 now supports aptX A2DP codec so I'd suggest you start looking into bluetooth receivers that support aptX... or, just stick with good old analog audio over the 3.5mm audio cable. Many years of fighting A2DP and always come back to this rock solid solution.
Thanks, guys.
All my other phones were also Android.
If the replacement phone has the same problem then I'll try a newer car stereo and look for one with aptX support.
Also having issues
I have the same issue with my S3 and both my JVC car receiver and my Rocketfish headphones. Any other options besides upgrading receiving devices (my car receiver is very new)? Any possibility of changing the codec that is being used?
CZ Eddie said:
My JVC worked fine with all my other phones.
But with the S3, I get lots of crackling sound whenever I use bluetooth from the SIII. I still get the music, there is just crackling that goes along with it.
I've tried stock ROM and several other ROM's & kernels, including AOKP and CM9. No change in the problem at all.
Gonna take the SIII to AT&T tomorrow to have them replace it, unless someone else has a better suggestion.
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I have jvc kd-x50bt and sound is perfect try to upgrade firmware and even if you bought radio recently that dont mean you have new firmware
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Thanks for the idea... Unfortunately updating the firmware did not resolve my problem.
rafal2006 said:
I have jvc kd-x50bt and sound is perfect try to upgrade firmware and even if you bought radio recently that dont mean you have new firmware
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A replacement phone resolved the issue.
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Sound Quality: TW vs AOSP

I have loaded several different TW roms on my gs4, and only Tasks AOKP for aosp roms. I have noticed the sound quality in AOSP is horrible compared to TW. I first noticed it when I plugged it into my car radio, it sounded muffled and muddy. I tried playing with the settings, even bought faux sound in hopes it would help but it did not. I plugged my friends iPhone in and played the same song to see if it was my radio... It was not. So I loaded a backup of a TW rom I had and low and behold it sounded just as good as the iPhone, just slightly quieter, turning the volume up a little and I couldnt tell the difference. I loaded the backups of TW and AOKP roms back to back with my headphones with different songs to see if I was just dreaming, but there is a huge difference in highs and lows, base sounds underpowered and starts crackling in AOSP. Faux sound didnt help anything, tried playing with the equalizer, and it never sounded anything close to the TW rom. I was going to try and load CM 10.1, but have not done so since they are still on nightly's with no RC or final builds.
Now I know AOSP uses open source drivers, so is this the problem? Or am I missing something that could be causing this?
EDIT: AOSP DOES NOT HAVE APT-X.
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Use APT-X on AOSP instead.
Otherwise, I can't comment on bluetooth since I only use the APT-X codec. But Task has stated in the past he does not care about bluetooth audio.
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I think the exact opposite, my phone sounds better on AOKP then TW. Are you setting all the equalizers up properly?
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Thermalwolf said:
I think the exact opposite, my phone sounds better on AOKP then TW. Are you setting all the equalizers up properly?
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I'm using the headphone jack to physically connect it on my car, so its not the BT. I'll look up APT-X, doesnt sound familiar to me. And as far as I can tell its setup properly. I looked up settings that several people suggested. I'm open to trying your settings if you want to post them.
fastblack said:
I'm using the headphone jack to physically connect it on my car, so its not the BT. I'll look up APT-X, doesnt sound familiar to me. And as far as I can tell its setup properly. I looked up settings that several people suggested. I'm open to trying your settings if you want to post them.
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Setting the volume all the way up on your phone while its connect to aux may cause distortion. Set it at least 3/4th of the volume bar and control the rest via the headunit.
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No problem with distortion on TW rom with volume all the way up. Also it doesnt really explain the headphone issues.
fastblack said:
No problem with distortion on TW rom with volume all the way up. Also it doesnt really explain the headphone issues.
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Not on touch wiz but AOKP. Volumes seem to be louder as this is also a issue on my HTC One.
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Welcome to the world of propriety drivers drivers versus open source drivers.
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fastblack said:
I'm using the headphone jack to physically connect it on my car, so its not the BT. I'll look up APT-X, doesnt sound familiar to me.
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Oh sorry, I thought I read that you were using Bluetooth.
APT-X is the high-definition version of Bluetooth. Comparable to using the headphone jack for audio quality, but with less noise.
If you want the ultimate in audio quality at the expense of some convenience, then try to find a USB DAC that works with the S4. I'm not sure if there are any yet. But they're worth it if you think you might be an audiophile.
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CZ Eddie said:
Use APT-X on AOSP instead.
Otherwise, I can't comment on bluetooth since I only use the APT-X codec...
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How do you use the APT-X codec? Is it part of one of the custom ROMs? I was under the impression that only the international version supported APT-X.
This has been my experience with samsung devices in the past as well. They do a good job with sound quality in the stock software. If you go to a AOSP type ROM, you need some other sound application to improve quality.
EDIT: AOSP ROM'S DO NOT HAVE APT-X.
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GeorgeP said:
How do you use the APT-X codec? Is it part of one of the custom ROMs? I was under the impression that only the international version supported APT-X.
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All Samsung Galaxy S3/S4 TouchWiz and Google Edition ROM's have had APT-X since the Galaxy S3.
All you need to do is find a Car Stereo or a Receiver that support APT-X and then connect by Bluetooth and it automatically uses the APT-X hi-def codec.
Since I never found a Car Stereo that supports it (still new tech) I just connected an APT-X bluetooth receiver to my car stereo. So my phone connects to the receiver. Then the receiver sends the audio directly to my car stereo via 3.5mm audio cable. I hide the receiver inside my dashboard behind the car stereo.

[DISCUSSION] Why Atrix is the perfect audio player

Ok, in light of my recent hair-pulling problems with CM10.1 lately, I have decided to give to the community instead of taking from it.
The Mega-Audiorific Atrix Discussion Thread
Drumroll please... Wait... How could I forget about the bass.
If you are lazy with listening to music (shame on you), skip to 0:56
This thread is here for 2 reasons.
Code:
1. It is hard to find the information I'm about to provide.
2. I want people to provide their insight on anything music related to the Atrix such as the following:
Examples:
* What music player app do you like the most on your Atrix?
* What audio format do you listen to normally (MP3, FLAC) with it?
* What apps make your music sound better on the Moto Atrix?
* What rom makes the audio sound the best for you?
* What music sounds the best on your Atrix?
To keep this thread in this subforum however, and not the General Android Discussion section,
I ask that you only provide answers to these questions regarding the Atrix, and make that known.
This is not a "I love this artist!" or "I don't think you know very much about music." thread.
Please keep replies to a minimum, so that this does not get flooded with flamers or Nazi's (no offense meant...sorry if I offended).
Everyone has their opinion, and they have the right to defend it, but they don't have the right to attack with it.
Be mature. Pushing opinions on others will get you nowhere. Opinions are opinions, not facts.
Without further ado, let's get started.
And I will start with the main reason audio sounds generally better with your Atrix.
The reason your Atrix sounds so good is... (dun dun duuuuuh...badum ch!!)
The Atrix 4G has a dedicated audio chip in it! =3 It's a medium-low end Wolfson chip.
Hard to find the info for it, but I wanted to know what made PowerAMP with FLAC
sound so good compared to an iPhone with ALAC. (both with equalizer off, charger port on iPhone -> Audio jack/headphones)
If you do some digging, you'll find this to be true.
I'm going to miss my Atrix when it becomes time to move on to another phone
I have my eyes set on the HTC One X+ or the Samsung Galaxy S4,
depending on what my budget is when the time comes.​
Drakonas said:
* What music player app do you like the most on your Atrix?
* What audio format do you listen to normally (MP3, FLAC) with it?
* What apps make your music sound better on the Moto Atrix?
* What rom makes the audio sound the best for you?
* What music sounds the best on your Atrix?
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1)Was using motorola's default. on gb had the best sound.
now im using xenoamp.
2) mp3. too little space for flacs
3)Again, xenoamp. its calibration functions REALLY makes a difference. like listening youtube in 240p vs 480p.
4)officicial bkur gb had the best stock sound... now, only xenoamp does...
5)Rock and techno.
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andresrivas said:
1)Was using motorola's default. on gb had the best sound.
now im using xenoamp.
2) mp3. too little space for flacs
3)Again, xenoamp. its calibration functions REALLY makes a difference. like listening youtube in 240p vs 480p.
4)officicial bkur gb had the best stock sound... now, only xenoamp does...
5)Rock and techno.
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Cool. I haven''t heard of XenoAMP. I'll check it out.
I guess I can answer the questions with my answers. Also, future readers, please don't think that you have to use these questions, specifically. This is a discussion thread! It's not just a poll!
1: I've used PowerAMP since I got into FLAC. For me, nothing has beaten the audio quality and ranges I can get out of PowerAMP.
2: I guess I answered this in #1 and my OP. I love and always will use FLAC. With that said, the best way to do this is to purchase the CDs yourself! To be honest, most local CDs are the same price, or even less expensive, than iTunes or other markets (Import albums, of course, cost more usually). Not only that, but you get upwards 10x the quality! How can you beat that? Seriously, try sticking an official CD (not burned from iTunes) in your car radio, if you have one, and hear the difference for yourself!
Of course, I understand that MP3's are way smaller, and going along with what andresrivas said, not everyone has a 16+GB SD card. xD
3: I will say that when I used to use GB, and I was testing out audio, I didn't feel like spending time working on PowerAMP's 10-band equalizer. It was just too much. So, I looked into other apps, and found that Equalizer helped to make things sound better, using its 5 band equalizer and many presets that I actually used to use. Check it out if you're looking for a better equalizer for your entire phone! (I'm guessing XenoAMP does something similar?)
4: Actually, recently I trying CM9 out (krystianp's version with the 3.1.10 kernel), and my phone sounded better than I heard it immediately upon restoring my PowerAMP app+data through TiBu (Titanium Backup) Pro. It was amazing, and I hadn't even changed the usual preset's settings that I used. For some reason, CM10.1 by Epinter doesn't sound as good though, which saddens me...
5: Drum & Bass. The phone and the audio systems I regularly use are able to really pick up those residual base backgrounds along with the short, punchy beats up front. Also, Hifana's albums sound amazing! You can check one of their songs out here, if you're interested. I linked to track 12 because it's awesome and shows you their style, but you will need to sign in to listen. I highly recommend this site for listening, because it's much higher quality than Youtube (almost lossless, it feels like), and they have a lot of albums available for free listening...
If you want more of Hifana, listen to that whole album, and then check out their Channel H album. All of their music is good, in my opinion.
* What music player app do you like the most on your Atrix?
PowerAMP
* What audio format do you listen to normally (MP3, FLAC) with it?
MP3 Flac and aac
* What apps make your music sound better on the Moto Atrix?
DSP Manager
* What rom makes the audio sound the best for you?
CyanogenMod 7.2
* What music sounds the best on your Atrix?
Heavy Metal :good:
Well.. its sad, My Atrix just stopped sounding. Neither from speaker, nor from headset. Wish I could do something about it without spending too much. :crying:
1. Player: Play Music
2. Music Format: MP3
3. App: DSP Manager with bass enhancement.
4. Rom: MROM
5. Music: Anything with good beats especially old school hip hop and glitch music.
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Well.. its sad, My Atrix just stopped sounding.
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Sorry to hear about that.
You should try searching the forums, something like "Atrix 4G no sound" or "Atrix 4G sound issue". Adding your rom name or searching "stock" in addition to those might help if they apply to you.
I realize that you're just commenting on your situation (and not asking for support). Thanks for this.
If you're on stock, I can't help you much anyways. I haven't used stock Atrix in 2 years. I would search first, as per XDA rules/requests (plus it's just being courteous), then ask in the Atrix Q & A section of the forum. Perhaps a rom reinstall might help? (You can Factory Reset without rooting/unlocking bootloader)
Make sure to read instructions in the General threads, and of course the Beginners' Guide. They might help as well.
Just thought I'd try to help
(For future readers) This is in the general section, so support questions don't apply here. I'd also prefer not to have support question clutter. (I know you weren't exactly doing so, crack.mech )
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Sorry to hear about that.
You should try searching the forums, something like "Atrix 4G no sound" or "Atrix 4G sound issue". Adding your rom name or searching "stock" in addition to those might help if they apply to you.
I realize that you're just commenting on your situation (and not asking for support). Thanks for this.
If you're on stock, I can't help you much anyways. I haven't used stock Atrix in 2 years. I would search first, as per XDA rules/requests (plus it's just being courteous), then ask in the Atrix Q & A section of the forum. Perhaps a rom reinstall might help? (You can Factory Reset without rooting/unlocking bootloader)
Make sure to read instructions in the General threads, and of course the Beginners' Guide. They might help as well.
Just thought I'd try to help
(For future readers) This is in the general section, so support questions don't apply here. I'd also prefer not to have support question clutter. (I know you weren't exactly doing so, crack.mech )
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Thanks for the suggestions Drakonas. I have been flashing different ROMs for a while now, and it doesn't seem to help. Though I hear some sort of crackling noise through the headset when I turn up the volume to full while playing music. As per my (re)search this seems to be a flex cable issue, but seems a bit wierd, as the speaker is not connected via flex cable ( I have opened up my atrix a few times!1 ). So I seriously doubt replacing the flex cable would help. But except for the audio issues, my atrix is still going strong, all thanks to the great developer community here.
And, I am seriously sorry to hijack this thread. Please accept my apologies.
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Thanks for the suggestions Drakonas. I have been flashing different ROMs for a while now, and it doesn't seem to help. Though I hear some sort of crackling noise through the headset when I turn up the volume to full while playing music. As per my (re)search this seems to be a flex cable issue, but seems a bit wierd, as the speaker is not connected via flex cable ( I have opened up my atrix a few times!1 ). So I seriously doubt replacing the flex cable would help. But except for the audio issues, my atrix is still going strong, all thanks to the great developer community here.
And, I am seriously sorry to hijack this thread. Please accept my apologies.
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Did you try to connect your atrix through an external portable amplifier? This may help.
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1. PowerAMP
2. MP3 Flac and aac
3. DSP Manager
4. CyanogenMod 7.2
5. Heavy Metal :good:
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1. Yep... I like it too.
2. Hey, whatever suits your preference.
3. Yeah, with some tweaking of it, you can get good sound. (This is from/for CyanogenMod roms for those who don't know) If I'm listening to music with PowerAMP, though, I don't like DSP Manager on. It's my preference, since I've customized PowerAMP's 10-band equalizer myself, vs DSP Manager's 5-band equalizer. Running 10-band through 5-band can defeat the purpose of the 10-band, but it depends I suppose.
4. Love CyanogenMod! Are you using a popular rom, by chance? I don't have the knowledge to customize a rom yet, so I usually just use one of the pre-built roms out there. My favorite for CM7 on the Atrix was Neutrino, but I changed to Atrix-MROM because it had the same battery-life and even better performance for me. Plus, the developer knows more what he's doing. He's part of the new 4.0 Kernel Project team.
5. I don't really listen to heavy metal, not anymore at least. I guess I grew up around teens that listened to it and thought it was the most amazing thing ever. (plus they often didn't care to try any other music. This probably differs you from them, hopefully ) I soon learned that there are thousands and possibly millions of styles of music out there, and there's more around every doorstep. I've spent the last 5 years building my music tastes, and I've switched favorite genres about 20 times, until I found the underground 20-year-old Drum & Bass scene.
But to each their own. Any specific artists that you like? I used to listen to DragonForce a lot, but I guess that's more Power Metal than Heavy Metal.
anaschillin said:
1. Player: Play Music
2. Music Format: MP3
3. App: DSP Manager with bass enhancement.
4. Rom: MROM
5. Music: Anything with good beats especially old school hip hop and glitch music.
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1. Hey, saving music in the cloud can be really useful. I guess the only reason I wouldn't want to is (A) I prefer FLAC which isn't usually provided and (B) I don't have a data plan currently, so playing on the go would be impossible. I have a lot of space anyways... I suppose you have a phone without much space to hold music?
2. Again, space. Plus I suppose it's the best format to use with Play Music.
3. Yeah, DSP really helps with MP3. I agree. I will say that if you get better headphones, you'll get better bass and clarity. I recommend some $10 to $20 Koss in-ear headphones for the lowest price, if you're not the person to have money laying around. Off-brand are usually crap, like Skullcandy. And for goodness sakes, if you want high-end headphones don't buy Beats by Dr. Dre. It is well known that they are overpriced pieces of crap compared to what you could get for half (or even less) of the price. Get some Audio-Technica Over-the-ears if you have that kind of money.
4. I love MROM. Best CM7 for Atrix in my opinion.
5. Nice! Make sure you check out Autechre and Flying Lotus, if you haven't already!
Drakonas said:
1. Yep... I like it too.
2. Hey, whatever suits your preference.
3. Yeah, with some tweaking of it, you can get good sound. (This is from/for CyanogenMod roms for those who don't know) If I'm listening to music with PowerAMP, though, I don't like DSP Manager on. It's my preference, since I've customized PowerAMP's 10-band equalizer myself, vs DSP Manager's 5-band equalizer. Running 10-band through 5-band can defeat the purpose of the 10-band, but it depends I suppose.
4. Love CyanogenMod! Are you using a popular rom, by chance? I don't have the knowledge to customize a rom yet, so I usually just use one of the pre-built roms out there. My favorite for CM7 on the Atrix was Neutrino, but I changed to Atrix-MROM because it had the same battery-life and even better performance for me. Plus, the developer knows more what he's doing. He's part of the new 4.0 Kernel Project team.
5. I don't really listen to heavy metal, not anymore at least. I guess I grew up around teens that listened to it and thought it was the most amazing thing ever. (plus they often didn't care to try any other music. This probably differs you from them, hopefully ) I soon learned that there are thousands and possibly millions of styles of music out there, and there's more around every doorstep. I've spent the last 5 years building my music tastes, and I've switched favorite genres about 20 times, until I found the underground 20-year-old Drum & Bass scene.
But to each their own. Any specific artists that you like? I used to listen to DragonForce a lot, but I guess that's more Power Metal than Heavy Metal.
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2. The most part of music i keep in mp3
4. Yes, i use official cm, last nightly. But recently i was try cm 10.1 with 3.1 kernel... and i like it
5. I love this music from childhood
Iron Maiden, Chrome Division, Черный обелиск and little Ария. I also listen other genre of rock and metal . List all my favorite groups take much time, so i attached screenshot
Sorry for my bad English
How about adding links to all music enhancers... i.e. dsp manager, beats, voodoo or what ever else they have for Atrix... And I know voodoo is not for Atrix...
Sent 4rm My O.G. Atrix on it's Lapdock using Weptop+... Which let me add is so Extra F***ing Beast... Galaxy S4 can't touch this...
Atrix MROM with Shure E4c
Nice to know there are still Atrix fans. I am addicted to the sound quality delivered by Moto Atrix since 2011. Now I have three of it (one 2.3.4 as mobile, one MROM with minor touch screen defect as music player and one brand new as spare).
music app -> DoomPlay (it plays additional ALAC, 24bit96 WAV, BUT play mp3 may distort);
audio format -> mainly 16_44 WAV, some ALAC;
app sound better -> DSP manager with enabled bass boost set moderate, enabled equaliser set acoustic;
rom sound best -> MROM with DSP manager
best music sounds -> M.J., The Carpenters, Korea OST like ht tps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6n5Ho9n9OPM
Moto Atrix drives my shure E4c earphone pretty well. No portable amplifier required.
Instead of MROM, I find the music sound seems a bit better from my Atrix 2.2.2.
I can feel the pure silence, position is more accurate and more crisp clear.

Viper4Android settings?

I just installed this and it looks very cool, but it's pretty overwhelming. Any suggestions for which .IRS files work well with headset, speaker, and bluetooth headset? For bluetooth headset I've also got my regular mono one for phone calls, and I have a stereo bluetooth one from Jaybird so I'd assume they use different settings. Speaking of, what do you guys put the settings at as well.
I looked a bit at the Viper4android thread, but it's like 700 pages long.
Before you get you A$$ handed to you for not following the rules i will spare you the moment of humility and provide you with this since i was stuck in the same situation you were but simply went to google and entered "Viper4android settings" and stumbled upon this which HELPED me!!!!!
http://vipersaudio.com/blog/
Hope it helps you like it did me
go to bob's diner. food is great
bckrupps said:
go to bob's diner. food is great
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Agree with you 100%!!! Tuna melt with waffle fries,cant be beat hahahahahahaha
solrac.dc said:
Agree with you 100%!!! Tuna melt with waffle fries,cant be beat hahahahahahaha
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left myself logged in. i have wise guy roommates. at least they didnt post something that would get me tossed outta here
solrac.dc said:
Before you get you A$$ handed to you for not following the rules i will spare you the moment of humility and provide you with this since i was stuck in the same situation you were but simply went to google and entered "Viper4android settings" and stumbled upon this which HELPED me!!!!!
http://vipersaudio.com/blog/
Hope it helps you like it did me
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Oh, I didn't realize I was breaking a rule. You mean we can't discuss optimal settings for an app for our phones? The only rule I see that might be loosely tied is using search, but I have searched. I have searched and am aware of the main 700 page thread, and also the English viper website, none of these have users discussing the G2 specifically. I'd rather avoid that 700+ page thread since I am specifically asking about the G2 in the G2 forums and what settings work well for others.
Just to repeat, I'm not looking on how to get the program to run or install it, I am looking for other G2 owners feedback on which particular modes worked well for them. I thought it might be a nice discussion.
If I'm breaking the rules please delete my thread then, my apologies.
Moving on..
I don't use the bluetooth headset so I can't help you on that.
But for the headset, I realised that using the xHifi setting under clarity gives quite a little whitenoise. But not using makes your music sound muffled , so I guess it's a trade off(unless you know how to configure the IRS files). I am using my mid range sennheiser CX-300II without any IRS filters, cos none of them work well. You could try loading everything into the folder and going through them 1 by 1, or even making the file which is rather tedious. I couldn't be bothered, the playbackgain control and dynamic system is enough for me.
If you plug your phone into powerful speakers (I have a bose 321 but damn those things make the windows shake) you MUST turn off the VIPER bass and reduce the dynamic bass to ~15%. Differential surround(Haas effect) makes the sound sound off center on speakers so avoid it.
I noticed G2 doesn't have music effect setting, am i suppose to assume that viper is on?
No it's not that simple. What I did was:
1. Install the drivers
2. Backup build.prop then change the lines specified in the main thread for Viper
3. Install google play(doesn't work on stock LG player for me)
3b. (unsure if really necessary) Disable stock LG player
4. Reboot
5. Wait for boot to complete and see all the superSU permission flashing...
6. Play something, then go into viper, enable the first option on the speaker tab and check the "driver status". It should say that it is installed/normal, that it is enabled and that it is processing. To really be sure go play around with the settings but be careful with the gain (don't ramp it sky high and drop your phone in shock)
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF300T
I just installed the app and it does all the necessary things for you. But still, Viper4Android sucks for our phone. The driver it installs significantly lowers the audio quality. With a huge amount of tweaking you can finally get the quality back up to where the G2 is at stock. Everyone is better off not using this mod for the G2 unless the author gets a much better audio driver designed for our chipset
check out the V4A audio profiles... it gives a great shares from people on settings... try them and check out the one you prefer
EniGmA1987 said:
I just installed the app and it does all the necessary things for you. But still, Viper4Android sucks for our phone. The driver it installs significantly lowers the audio quality. With a huge amount of tweaking you can finally get the quality back up to where the G2 is at stock. Everyone is better off not using this mod for the G2 unless the author gets a much better audio driver designed for our chipset
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Yeah I don't know how happy I am with this app yet. I can get stuff louder, but I hear more distortion, but I have to play around a bit. One odd thing is that different things have different volumes after installing this. For example, my speaker phone when in a call is nice and loud, but when checking voicemail it is very quiet, kind of odd and I can't figure out how to selectively fix these things so I may be forced to uninstall.
EniGmA1987 said:
I just installed the app and it does all the necessary things for you. But still, Viper4Android sucks for our phone. The driver it installs significantly lowers the audio quality. With a huge amount of tweaking you can finally get the quality back up to where the G2 is at stock. Everyone is better off not using this mod for the G2 unless the author gets a much better audio driver designed for our chipset
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spinedoc said:
Yeah I don't know how happy I am with this app yet. I can get stuff louder, but I hear more distortion, but I have to play around a bit. One odd thing is that different things have different volumes after installing this. For example, my speaker phone when in a call is nice and loud, but when checking voicemail it is very quiet, kind of odd and I can't figure out how to selectively fix these things so I may be forced to uninstall.
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I think you guys really don't know what you're taking about. The clarity viper adds to the sound on both my stereo and my headphones is absolutely unreal. After having set up viper, I think the biggest flaw of a stock g2 might be the dull und muffled sound it transfers to proper speakers.
android404 said:
I think you guys really don't know what you're taking about. The clarity viper adds to the sound on both my stereo and my headphones is absolutely unreal. After having set up viper, I think the biggest flaw of a stock g2 might be the dull und muffled sound it transfers to proper speakers.
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Think what you want but the drivers this uses noticeably took away from clarity in all aspects of the sound. Every speaker setup can sound different so maybe this type of sound just works better for you, my high end systems though it definitely takes a lot away from the audio
android404 said:
I think you guys really don't know what you're taking about. The clarity viper adds to the sound on both my stereo and my headphones is absolutely unreal. After having set up viper, I think the biggest flaw of a stock g2 might be the dull und muffled sound it transfers to proper speakers.
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That's good news to me. Can you post up exactly what settings, .irs files,etc you have? I'd be most interested in phone-speaker settings, but I wouldn't mind just piggybacking off you since you say you have such stellar results.
EniGmA1987 said:
Think what you want but the drivers this uses noticeably took away from clarity in all aspects of the sound. Every speaker setup can sound different so maybe this type of sound just works better for you, but high end sound systems will notice the quality reduction.
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neither am I nore do I have a high end soundsystem so I don't notice the difference to the worse. Who listens to anything on a high end soundsystem through a phone?
On my dynavoice speakers and my b&w headphones my music gets several different new dimensions using viper, regardless of the code of the driver.
Edit: of course every setup and every set of ears gets different subjective results. But it's so obvious that the sound is so much better with viper
android404 said:
neither am I nore do I have a high end soundsystem so I don't notice the difference to the worse. Who listens to anything on a high end soundsystem through a phone?
On my dynavoice speakers and my b&w headphones my music gets several different new dimensions using viper, regardless of the code of the driver.
Edit: of course every setup and every set of ears gets different subjective results. But it's so obvious that the sound is so much better with viper
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So can you post up your settings or no?
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So can you post up your settings or no?
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You got a pm right after you asked me yesterday.
Edit: no you didn't. Must have gone wrong, is coming soon.
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spinedoc said:
So can you post up your settings or no?
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This is my headphones profile. I haven't set up one for the phone speakers. It's a modified copy of something I found somewhere on xda. I guess you can just create a headphone profile yourself and then copy in the following text instead of what it says in your backed up profile. But I'm not sure if that will work or if it will destroy your phone and kill your family. You will find your profiles (once they are backed up) under storage/emulated/0/viper4android/profile. This works on my headphones and with my ears, that doesn't mean it will work for you. Here it goes:
# ViPER4Android audio effect profile !
# Created 2013-10-21 12:15:33
profile_name=piggyback
viper4android.headphonefx.enable=boolean=true
viper4android.speakerfx.enable=boolean=false
viper4android.headphonefx.playbackgain.enable=boolean=false
viper4android.headphonefx.fireq.enable=boolean=true
viper4android.headphonefx.convolver.enable=boolean=true
viper4android.headphonefx.colorfulmusic.enable=boolean=false
viper4android.headphonefx.diffsurr.enable=boolean=false
viper4android.headphonefx.vhs.enable=boolean=false
viper4android.headphonefx.reverb.enable=boolean=false
viper4android.headphonefx.dynamicsystem.enable=boolean=false
viper4android.headphonefx.dynamicsystem.tube=boolean=false
viper4android.headphonefx.fidelity.bass.enable=boolean=true
viper4android.headphonefx.fidelity.clarity.enable=boolean=true
viper4android.headphonefx.cure.enable=boolean=false
viper4android.headphonefx.playbackgain.ratio=string=50
viper4android.headphonefx.playbackgain.maxscaler=string=200
viper4android.headphonefx.playbackgain.volume=string=80
viper4android.headphonefx.fireq=string=4.5;4.5;2.75;0.0;0.0;0.0;0.0;-0.5;2.75;4.0;
viper4android.headphonefx.fireq.custom=string=4.5;4.5;2.75;0.0;0.0;0.0;0.0;-0.5;2.75;4.0;
viper4android.headphonefx.convolver.kernel=string=/storage/emulated/0/ViPER4Android/Kernel/B&W Stereo Core.irs
viper4android.headphonefx.colorfulmusic.coeffs=string=120;200
viper4android.headphonefx.colorfulmusic.midimage=string=150
viper4android.headphonefx.diffsurr.delay=string=500
viper4android.headphonefx.vhs.qual=string=3
viper4android.headphonefx.reverb.roomsize=string=0
viper4android.headphonefx.reverb.roomwidth=string=0
viper4android.headphonefx.reverb.damp=string=0
viper4android.headphonefx.reverb.wet=string=0
viper4android.headphonefx.reverb.dry=string=50
viper4android.headphonefx.dynamicsystem.coeffs=string=180;5800;55;80;10;70
viper4android.headphonefx.dynamicsystem.bass=string=5
viper4android.headphonefx.fidelity.bass.mode=string=0
viper4android.headphonefx.fidelity.bass.freq=string=100
viper4android.headphonefx.fidelity.bass.gain=string=150
viper4android.headphonefx.fidelity.clarity.mode=string=2
viper4android.headphonefx.fidelity.clarity.gain=string=150
viper4android.headphonefx.cure.crossfeed=string=0
viper4android.headphonefx.outvol=string=100
viper4android.headphonefx.channelpan=string=20
viper4android.headphonefx.limiter=string=100
viper4android.speakerfx.limiter=string=100
TY much, I'll give it a shot!!!

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