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In searching through the Development threads about rooting, I didn't really see a concise answer to this.
If I root using a method from Development - say SuperRoot from paulobrien, can I unroot back to stock say for warranty purposes? I'm all for rooting and trying the ROMs already out for us (thank you to those that have gotten this ball rolling fast already!!), but I've seen some low build quality issues from friends and want the ability to return this if necessary.
Google already has the factory images posted. Been up for a while. Flash em and relock bootloader
Download the stock Nexus 7 image and go into the recovery mode on your Nexus 7. Then extract the stock image file and the scripts inside the same archive. Use these scripts to restore back to stock, and use fastboot oem lock to lock it up when you're done.
Now it'll be exactly as it was from Google.
Even if you return to root, google can still detect that the device has been rooted.
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Even if you return to root, google can still detect that the device has been rooted.
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When you stock and lock, there won't won't be warranty issues.
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Hey Guys
I don't want to offend anyone especially the DEVs but I consider the N7 to be on the bleeding edge, what value does a custom ROM have. Again, I'm used to the world of the HD2 so I can honestly say I appreciate the work of every single DEV and custom ROM but I"m just a little unsure of what a custom ROM on this device brings to the table. Are there features i'm missing?
thanks all
Obviously, custom ROMs give people certain features and optimizations that aren't available in the stock ROM. But I understand where your coming from. Most people use custom ROMs on devices that don't have the latest Android version, and want the bleeding edge of software available. On the Nexus 7, and most Nexus devices, you are on the bleeding edge, and are always up to date. Until a ROM comes out with a must-have feature, stock ROM suits my needs perfectly on my Nexus.
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Well the only reason I am going to root, is to be able to do a fail safe backup.
Using Clockwork mod, you get to backup everything including the way you have it set, the launcher especially.
I just root, and just use the stock rom.
And some apps require root.
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Probably a dumb question but does root prevent you from getting and installing OTAs?
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Probably a dumb question but does root prevent you from getting and installing OTAs?
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It shouldnt but youll lose root.
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It shouldnt but youll lose root.
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Gotcha. That's a bit of a bummer. So the only way to get any new features or bug fixes from the OTA is to flash a ROM that implements them?
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Gotcha. That's a bit of a bummer. So the only way to get any new features or bug fixes from the OTA is to flash a ROM that implements them?
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Look into voodoo ota rootkeeper, it will restore root after an update. I've never had to use it as this is my first Nexus device, and applied all updates before rooting. Also, ROMs generally implement updates within a very short time frame so I wouldn't worry about that.
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Look into voodoo ota rootkeeper, it will restore root after an update. I've never had to use it as this is my first Nexus device, and applied all updates before rooting. Also, ROMs generally implement updates within a very short time frame so I wouldn't worry about that.
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Thanks. I'll check it out.
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Actually I did a search for Voodoo OTA rootkeeper and someone posted this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1772539
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i can confirm OTA update did not cause me to lose root/superuser and voodoo is not needed.
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This is a nexus. If you want to remain on stock..unlock bootloader, install custom recovery, flash Su zip, flash stock recovery if you want OTAs. If an ota comes, flash it. If you lose root, it will take less than 5 mins to set up
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thanks all,
i have unlocked and rooted the N7 and am not questioning the value of those 2 items...trust me that is a huge deal. But i do appreciate the comments--I didn't want to deviate from Stock if it didn't do much and it doesn't seem like any of the new ROMs have made substantial enough changes to warrant a switch.
thanks
Rugged.
Rugged96 said:
thanks all,
i have unlocked and rooted the N7 and am not questioning the value of those 2 items...trust me that is a huge deal. But i do appreciate the comments--I didn't want to deviate from Stock if it didn't do much and it doesn't seem like any of the new ROMs have made substantial enough changes to warrant a switch.
thanks
Rugged.
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Obviously it's not like a Verizon device that has a bunch of bloat and excess so out of the box we are looking great.
Some of the roms are and will be simply stock deodexed/zip-aligned which allow for more customization/theming etc.
Right off the bat, I'd like a stock based rom that I can easily theme that has the default Adroid browser with Flash installed. I don't care about launchers and tablet modes, etc.
The good thing is there should be a huge variety of lightly tweaked to heavily tweaked roms available eventually. If you don't need anything different, then you are good to go and will spend less time staying up late flashing your device. :good:
To root or not to root
After my last bad experience and also after reading how some have faced issues after rooting their note 3 I was wondering if rooting has any adverse effects on the phones functionality. What are cons of rooting?
There's bit of lag on note 3 which is really annoying for such a beast.
Any advice would be much appreciated thanks
I own N9005 model from O2 unlocked.
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To root or not to root
After my last bad experience and also after reading how some have faced issues after rooting their note 3 I was wondering if rooting has any adverse effects on the phones functionality. What are cons of rooting?
There's bit of lag on note 3 which is really annoying for such a beast.
Any advice would be much appreciated thanks
I own N9005 model from O2 unlocked.
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There is an update from Samsung that should fix the lag.
I would wait until a good (really) good rom is out
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There is an update from Samsung that should fix the lag.
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No update available for my model unfortunately.
CoolDevelopment said:
I would wait until a good (really) good rom is out
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Hmmm....are current roms poor or no improvement?
I've rooted my phone and hence sacrificed the ability to get OTA update from Samsung... but still, in my opinion, it really depends on the user own personal preference. I root my phone because there's a lot of apps that I am using requires root access (tasker, xposed, etc)...
There are currently not too many custom roms available for note 3 yet (as far as i know), better wait for a while if you're planning on rooting simply for the sake of flashing new rom. :good:
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I've rooted my phone and hence sacrificed the ability to get OTA update from Samsung... but still, in my opinion, it really depends on the user own personal preference. I root my phone because there's a lot of apps that I am using requires root access (tasker, xposed, etc)...
There are currently not too many custom roms available for note 3 yet (as far as i know), better wait for a while if you're planning on rooting simply for the sake of flashing new rom. :good:
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But for a popular device like taht i won't take too long
I'm tossing up the same thing and wondering if anyone can answer this question. If I flash back to stock firmware after rooting will device status revert to official thus allowing me to have ota updates again or does setting the knox flag mean I will be system status modified forever?
I know knox flag can't be reverted but what about system status?
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jigzopuzzle said:
I've rooted my phone and hence sacrificed the ability to get OTA update from Samsung... but still, in my opinion, it really depends on the user own personal preference. I root my phone because there's a lot of apps that I am using requires root access (tasker, xposed, etc)...
There are currently not too many custom roms available for note 3 yet (as far as i know), better wait for a while if you're planning on rooting simply for the sake of flashing new rom. :good:
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Same here.
Although I'd liked to get a good recovery, too. I just rooted with stock recovery, so I can't make a full nand-backup so far. I tried xposed yesterday, but it didn't work. And as long as there isn't a working recovery option (except for going back to stock and installing my apps again vs. installing the full OS including apps and settings), I probably won't try xposed again. But I do miss the "skip tracks with volume rocker" feature.
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Same here.
Although I'd liked to get a good recovery, too. I just rooted with stock recovery, so I can't make a full nand-backup so far. I tried xposed yesterday, but it didn't work. And as long as there isn't a working recovery option (except for going back to stock and installing my apps again vs. installing the full OS including apps and settings), I probably won't try xposed again. But I do miss the "skip tracks with volume rocker" feature.
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According to this website xposed should work? Are you using version 2.2?
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Which is the safest way to root please?
My main reason for rooting is to reduce lag and install custom ROMs, at the moment their aren't many ROMs to choose from but I'm sure it won't be too long before that changes.
Also My phone is from o2 and they are one of the carriers who still have their ugly logo bootup at startup, shut down which is very annoying.
Also if things go wrong I can still revert back to stock via Odin?
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Auto root by chainfire is the safest and easiest way ti root.
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Which is the safest way to root please?
My main reason for rooting is to reduce lag and install custom ROMs, at the moment their aren't many ROMs to choose from but I'm sure it won't be too long before that changes.
Also My phone is from o2 and they are one of the carriers who still have their ugly logo bootup at startup, shut down which is very annoying.
Also if things go wrong I can still revert back to stock via Odin?
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Rooting or putting a custom rom(based on touchwiz) won't probably change anything.
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Yes that's true simply rooting wont get rid of lag however my main questions are which is the safest way to root and would I be able to flash generic rom via Odin? It's been awhile since I used Odin.
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Ever time I consider rooting I come across post were user bricked phone. This is really of putting don't fancy bricking my phone. However can't do with lag which is very annoying.
Which is the simplest and safest method of rooting?
Not worried about knox my Model N9005 on MJ3 FW, unlocked version from the UK. Thanks
Rooting does not brick your phone. Only users who don't read the instructions properly bricks their phones.
I have been rooting andriod phones since Samsung S2 with no bricks.
Rooting gives you 'Admin' rights on your phone and I want / need that to have full control of my device.
Rooting does not stop OTA updates but you will need to re-root for every new update.
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I had the same dilemma. I rooted my Note 1, flashed mods & ROMs, and it was eventually what I wanted. It was, however, locked in that version. I had no time to play with it any more, so left it.
On buying the Note 3, I flashed a stock ROM for the Note 1, got the updates, and it was much better than what I had customised. I guess I had my customised ROM earlier than any OTA update, so did benefit.
The other aspect is a firewall. You can now block apps from Mobile data access (although it is tedious), but not from WiFi access. You can, however, block the access that apps have to your data (although also tedious), so at least you may be safer.
Finally, we have the bloatware on the device. This generation of Andoid seems a bit better behaved than previous ones, and I can disable a lot of the stock apps, which is good. I am not finding any wakelocks (or at least not a great deal), and battery life is very good overall.
So, for me, I would like to have a firewall, but as for the rest of the system, it is perfectly good for me, and I have no current plans to root this device.
What's the easiest way of disabling stock apps such as trip advisor, flipboard, ant bloatware etc?
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What's the easiest way of disabling stock apps such as trip advisor, flipboard, ant bloatware etc?
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Unfortunately some of the ones you listed cannot be turned off in the app manager. Many other apps, can however be turned off. Once I rooted I deleted most of the third party nonsense and froze most of the extra Samsung apps.
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Unfortunately some of the ones you listed cannot be turned off in the app manager. Many other apps, can however be turned off. Once I rooted I deleted most of the third party nonsense and froze most of the extra Samsung apps.
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Do you keep Knox counter at 0x0 if you fiddle with deleting stock apps?
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So just come across the cyanogeninstaller and notice no one is talking about it here.
The program will walk you through how to unlock the boot loader, gain root, install a recovery and install the latest cyanogen mod. All in a nice little ui.
http://androidandme.com/2013/11/new...-the-play-store-desktop-client-along-with-it/
According to the faq the HTC one is supported too!
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So just come across the cyanogeninstaller and notice no one is talking about it here.
The program will walk you through how to unlock the boot loader, gain root, install a recovery and install the latest cyanogen mod. All in a nice little ui.
http://androidandme.com/2013/11/new...-the-play-store-desktop-client-along-with-it/
According to the faq the HTC one is supported too!
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There's an article on xda's front page today
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/cyanogenmod-installer-now-available-in-the-play-store/
The one thing I wish it didn't do was wipe SD. I was going to test it out but that's a deal breaker for me. I don't want to sit around and wait for those transfers.
does it use htcdev to unlock or an exploit?
I ran this and it did what it said. Only problem I had is after it unlocked my bootloader installation failed and I had to run again and it installed cwm and then installed CyanogenMod 10.2 snapshot. I am curious of what they use to unlock bootloader as well. During the process it said waiting on unlock code then I was prompted on phone to unlock yes or no.
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So once this is done are you free to flash any custom Rom because this seems like an easy way to root and unlock boot loader . Also does this offer a way of relocking boot loader.
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It'd be great if it could also s-off our the device I've tried every method and no luck
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So, did anyone try this tool? Any feedback?
I can't findout the unlock method either.
Is there no one the knows how it is done?
I can't imagine the installer unlocking via htcdev, how many phonez can you unlock on one account?
And don't you think HTC would found out and block the installer unlocker?
Iam thinking of going for this once my warranty is up but not until.
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I am possibly interested in this if safe, though probably not to stay on CM.
Only Im afraid of the 'Wipe SD' part. On my previous One I wiped SD when flashing a custom ROM and it killed the phone, was unfixable.
I am not going to destroy another phone, love the One as it is and not worth trying if not a safe option..
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Iam thinking of going for this once my warranty is up but not until.
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Well, my warranty expires in two years. I won't even have this phone in two years. I'm waiting to complete 5 complete battery cycles and going for it :silly:
works well
So I've now got my second One back (wife got a S800 S4) so used the CM unlocking tool.
Ran perfectly except for one small glitch, it did not recognise the phone momentarily until a reboot of PC and new USB cable was used.
Now have a rooted One on CM11 and I actually like it on the handset.
There is more free ram, is smoother than Sense, not one single FC, everything works, using ART and that has not been an issue. It feels faster though have limited CPU to 1.5ghz.
Only issue with the mobile is the camera module, the purple crap. My main One is unaffected and in perfect stock condition and will stay that way. My second can be for the custom ROMs, only that I feel I'll probably use it more lol than the stock, want to get Miui on to it.
Was such as safe and easy process one day will be used on the stock One.
Would recommend this tool for unlocking as saves all the unnecessary work by using normal means, only issue is you can't back up the stock ROM as gets wiped..
Okay im coming from 2 awesome years as a gnex user to the g2, which so far i LOVE! I bought it used and it was on latest ota so i rooted using the latest ioroot and flashed twrp using freegee and i want to mess around with roms but i keep seeing things talking about Loki this and that and brick here and there. So i would like to know what steps are needed to flash Mallidus rom since im liking stock for now and all of this talk is foreign to me being a nexus user ..everything was easy on it..
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Okay im coming from 2 awesome years as a gnex user to the g2, which so far i LOVE! I bought it used and it was on latest ota so i rooted using the latest ioroot and flashed twrp using freegee and i want to mess around with roms but i keep seeing things talking about Loki this and that and brick here and there. So i would like to know what steps are needed to flash Mallidus rom since im liking stock for now and all of this talk is foreign to me being a nexus user ..everything was easy on it..
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Just root and install Xposed installer, that is all
Modules I use:
Any help for hotspot hack if I stay stock?
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If you flashed a proper lokified recovery everything is pretty much the same as the gnex. Format system, data, and cache. Then flash whatever rom you want. It's also a good idea to backup your EFS partition. There is a flashable zip in the development section that will make a zip of those partitions.
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If you flashed a proper lokified recovery everything is pretty much the same as the gnex. Format system, data, and cache. Then flash whatever rom you want. It's also a good idea to backup your EFS partition. There is a flashable zip in the development section that will make a zip of those partitions.
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According to that there should be a option in my version of twrp, I think it was like 2.6.3.3 also there is a option in freegee to backup efs. .in quick terms what exactly is it for and place it on pc for a just in case?
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Also you mentioned "properly lokified recovery" how can I confirm this?
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What ever you dont whipe internal data
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What ever you dont whipe internal data
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Lol thanks
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Any help for hotspot hack if I stay stock?
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Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45868740 .
Also, I've gone back and forth a lot between stock recovery and custom. I have had some poor luck flashing some mods. I am currently running rooted with stock recovery and don't miss a thing. I use g2 xposed for tweaks and have added a number of mods manually (hotspot, lg browser that works in qslide, split window). For mods that flash in recovery i have had a lot of success opening the zip, reading the update script and performing the actions manually (for split window i downloaded an app for build.prop modding). No regrets. I also found that i can perform the factory reset and don't lose any of the permanent mods I made (i.e. non g2 xposed mods). Didn't even lose root (superuser app in system\app).
I've noticed a lot of former gnex users jumped to the g2 (myself included). Must be that 2 year upgrade cycle. I loved (and still have) my gnex, but this phone blows it out of the water (the screen alone... amoled what?).
Good luck and enjoy!
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Thanks for the info, and I feel you on the love for the gnex but man it just has nothing on this phone...at all really, although I will say it spoiled me in the flashing dept,I don't think I ever checked a single md5 the whole time I had it. I never used xposed on the gnex so forgive me..but what would be something I'd want to possibly change through the g2 xposed module?
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Also is it safe (if I ever decided to) reboot into twrp and wipe cache/dalvik on stock rom?
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Also is it safe (if I ever decided to) reboot into twrp and wipe cache/dalvik on stock rom?
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It's safe. A few times i ended up with the persistent "android is upgrading" message on every boot, but I'm pretty sure that was more from the mods i was trying. Really bad luck with flashing, can't tell you how many times i perform the Verizon return to stock procedure. Thought i actually bricked it once, but saved it. You are right about the gnex, unbrickable. I kept it as my insurance in case I ever actually brick this (they even have a fully functioning kitkat for it free of graphics glitches).
As far as g2 xposed, it can modify most anything you could want to, not to mention there are other mods for the xposed framework. I also never knew about it before my g2. You can modify the nav bar (height, # buttons, assign buttons, color, glow, get rid of it), modify the status bar (hide system icons, prevent certain notifications, change time/date format) and many other things. Costs $1 for all the features (worth it), free for some. A new version was just uploaded to the play store today. If you just install it, it will walk you through getting the xposed framework.
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The first part of your post alone makes me want to leave it alone, lol I'll probably do the hotspot mod and be done for the time being, lol
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The first part of your post alone makes me want to leave it alone, lol I'll probably do the hotspot mod and be done for the time being, lol
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Yeah, reading it again it does sound pretty bad. Just so you know, i was trying to keep with the stock os (not even a custom rom based on the stock os). I think you are fine if the very first thing you flash is a custom rom.
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I came from a long line of Nexus devices and the stock rom is awesome FWIW.
Just root and install Xposed G2 Settings. Change the DPI from 480 > 400 too. Much better.
im taking the leap to g2 tomorrow from my current gnex i still didnt quiet understand this "lokified" term. so lokified is a kernel/rom that we can flash ? is there anything called unlockified or nonlockified ? im a little lost, plz assist me if its not so much trouble
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im taking the leap to g2 tomorrow from my current gnex i still didnt quiet understand this "lokified" term. so lokified is a kernel/rom that we can flash ? is there anything called unlockified or nonlockified ? im a little lost, plz assist me if its not so much trouble
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Loki is just the hack used to root I think. Its a script that does the work on your device. I think we need Loki enabled recoveries that can use and utilize the script.
I came from a Galaxy Nexus too. Its a tad different, since you root first, then install recovery. Root requires running a bat file from your PC where it copies the Loki script. Recovery is downloaded and flashed with FreeGee from the Play Store.
But honestly, like I said before, the stock ROM is pretty amazing. Gots lots of bells and whistles no found on AOSP ROMs. If I flashed anything it would be a Flex ROM only because its like Stock+.
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Loki is just the hack used to root I think. Its a script that does the work on your device. I think we need Loki enabled recoveries that can use and utilize the script.
I came from a Galaxy Nexus too. Its a tad different, since you root first, then install recovery. Root requires running a bat file from your PC where it copies the Loki script. Recovery is downloaded and flashed with FreeGee from the Play Store.
But honestly, like I said before, the stock ROM is pretty amazing. Gots lots of bells and whistles no found on AOSP ROMs. If I flashed anything it would be a Flex ROM only because its like Stock+.
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oh good to have people from gnex here , thanks for the explanation. so basically after we root a script (loki thing) is stored in the phone somewhere which allows flashing of roms ! correct? , seems like i gotta read up. post any links if possible im going through the general section and the d802 section as well
You new guys coming over (that's funny, I haven't had the phone a week yet) need to give the stock ROM a chance. Run it rooted so you've got the access and capabilities, install G2 Xposed at a minimum, and go from there. I came from a Rezound I had running CleanRom and pretty heavily tweaked to my liking. The ONLY things I've done to my G2 since getting it on Sunday were to Root, Selectively Debloat, Install G2 Xposed and tweak, and install Apex Launcher because I like having the multipage scrollable lower dock, and if you use G2 Xposed to shorten the height of the navbar, you get an unsightly gap between the navbar and dock unless you use a different than stock launcher.
Doing all the above, the ONLY thing I've lost is the stock pinch out to show the desktop feature. Not a big loss. I had to install screen locker and set double tap in Apex to lock the screen so it still functions exactly as knock off, and knock on was unaffected.
I see absolutely no reason to install a custom rom unless you absolutely MUST have Kit Kat. Most of the aftermarket ROM's I've seen have a "what doesn't work" list. I'd rather have it all work.