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update-script

I have about 10-15 apps I always end up installing for every new rom. I was wondering if I could just use this method to create an update.zip so I could just load it from recovery after I load a rom. I tried and for the most part (swype excluded) the apps installed ok, but i noticed if I wanted to remove them I could not. I am guessing its because I put the apk in the system/app folder. can i put it in another folder to make it appear just as if it was installed from the market? I don't see any apps installed anywhere else to be honest?

I'm not to sure about the update script but I just use Titanium Backup to reinstall all my apps. Just download it from marketplace and run a app backup. So after I install a new Rom I just redownload titanium from the market place and restore all apps. Then I can uninstall an app or delete it from the backup. Not really sure if this helps you but trying to help others out.

ejkeebler said:
I have about 10-15 apps I always end up installing for every new rom. I was wondering if I could just use this method to create an update.zip so I could just load it from recovery after I load a rom. I tried and for the most part (swype excluded) the apps installed ok, but i noticed if I wanted to remove them I could not. I am guessing its because I put the apk in the system/app folder. can i put it in another folder to make it appear just as if it was installed from the market? I don't see any apps installed anywhere else to be honest?
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If you did something like this you would lose all data associated with those apps such as settings, game saves, etc. Best thing is Titanium backup. Also if you installed the apps without going through the market, you wont get updates.

i think if you put them in /data/app they can be uninstalled so make an update.zip that places them there

You can use ti backup to make an update.zip
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I guess i'll stick with Titanium Backup. I'll have to look into the update.zip option from there, but if it doesnt restore data, kind of a wasted step. I'll have to buckle down and look at it today. It seems kind of cumbersome going through each app 1 at a time, and don't think I want an every app restore. I imagine there's got to be an option where you can select only certain apps....thanks!

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If you did something like this you would lose all data associated with those apps such as settings, game saves, etc. Best thing is Titanium backup. Also if you installed the apps without going through the market, you wont get updates.
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Unless you also threw the corresponding db's from /data/data in there. Then you would (like you said) run into Market problems without a restore of the vending prefs and databases. Like yourself and everyone before said...use Titanium.
Titanium Tip:
1. Create a folder in root of sdcard. For example /sdcard/Reinstall
2. Go to Titanium's settings and make Reinstall your backup folder
3. Backup the apps you want to keep for restore.
4. Go back to settings and change to your regular backup folder so you don't populate your reinstall folder with unwanted apps.
5. After a wipe, download Titanium (Titanium also has an option to create an update.zip of itself so you can install it in recovery before 1st boot).
6. Go to Titanium and change backup folder to Reinstall.
7. Batch restore (donate only) or manually restore the contents.
8. Remember to change backup folder again.
I do this for system apps/settings across different roms also. For instance, I have a DesireSys folder and a FroyoSys folder. Learn to use the filters, makes life much easier.

overground said:
Unless you also threw the corresponding db's from /data/data in there. Then you would (like you said) run into Market problems without a restore of the vending prefs and databases. Like yourself and everyone before said...use Titanium.
Titanium Tip:
1. Create a folder in root of sdcard. For example /sdcard/Reinstall
2. Go to Titanium's settings and make Reinstall your backup folder
3. Backup the apps you want to keep for restore.
4. Go back to settings and change to your regular backup folder so you don't populate your reinstall folder with unwanted apps.
5. After a wipe, download Titanium (Titanium also has an option to create an update.zip of itself so you can install it in recovery before 1st boot).6. Go to Titanium and change backup folder to Reinstall.
7. Batch restore (donate only) or manually restore the contents.
8. Remember to change backup folder again.
I do this for system apps/settings across different roms also. For instance, I have a DesireSys folder and a FroyoSys folder. Learn to use the filters, makes life much easier.
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Excellent! I've been downloading it after each install. I thought there had to be an easier way.

Swipe restote

I used titanium backup to backup the new Swipe before removing it. I went to restore it and there is a checkbox next to the item, instead of the other logo. Basically the restore feature is grayed out for most items I backed up? I went to the directory the backup uses and there is a compressed file for swipe. If I open it, I see some data, but no apk file.
Question 1st is how do I find the apk to restore this?
Question 2 is why can't I restore all backed up files via titanium (paid version)? Scares me to think I was safe using this product.

Use astro and hit the search button. Type swype with no spaces and search. You might find the apk that way.
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Well I just discovered something strange with most Apps backed up with titanium. If I click on a file that I backed up (say swipe from last update) and uninstalled via titanium, and I get a message that data was backed up, and but no apk present. Sure enough, if I click on the archived swipe file, I see a data file and folder and no apk. Why would titanium backup some files completely and partially with others?
Also, without doing a nand restore, which I really don't want to start from square one, how can I get the swipe apk from the last OTA? SwiftKey has been unreliable since their past two updates?
Thanks

Pull the APK from a stock rooted ROM's zip file.
TB usually won't backup /system apps because, y'know, they're in the non-writable system partition. Normally, they're still there, and normally, you don't mess with stuff in /system, nor should you copy stuff over from one ROM to another if it's a system app.

Ti backing up to sd-ext

How do I make it so ti backs up into sd-ext? It only ' detects' mnt/sdcard... If I have to wipe the data or system, everything goes with it!
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Preferences > preferred backup location
You should be able to scan for it or browse to it.
Path should be:
/mount/sdcard-ext/TitaniumBackup
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I might add that when you have the popup box there for navigating to your preferred backup location, use the back button to go up a folder. When I first used Ti it took me a while to figure out how to move up a folder in the directory.
Path can be anything you make it, and the Titanium Backup folder won't show on the ext-SDCARD unless you create the folder first, as Ti only creates a folder in the default backup location.

CaelanT said:
I might add that when you have the popup box there for navigating to your preferred backup location, use the back button to go up a folder. When I first used Ti it took me a while to figure out how to move up a folder in the directory.
Path can be anything you make it, and the Titanium Backup folder won't show on the ext-SDCARD unless you create the folder first, as Ti only creates a folder in the default backup location.
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Yeah, the dev wrote me back now (that was fast!) and he told me to use the back button. That worked.
So now whenever I install it, it should automatically search /mnt and look for that folder, or will I always have to set to it?

It remembers. There is also an option to have it keep its settings on the sdcard. Last time i wiped and reatored it set itself to the correct card.
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beatphreek said:
It remembers. There is also an option to have it keep its settings on the sdcard. Last time i wiped and reatored it set itself to the correct card.
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It's checked. Problem Is it goes to sdcard like everything else. Not sdcard-ext
But if it worked for you, maybe not

[Q] Phone.apk lost, trying to reinstall [SOLVED!!]

Okay, this is the 2nd time this has happened.....my phone.apk has disappeared from my phone, EC09.
Last time I just blew everything up and started over. This time I refuse to do that. I'm using Dialer One, so at the moment, things are not urgent. But I do want my touchwiz dialer back.
I've backed up the app with Titanium Backup on a previous nandroid backup, and it will not restore the phone app on my current ROM. I've also tried using ADB and the install command, and I get a "install parse failed no certificates" error message.
Anyone have a way to solve this problem for me?
UPDATE: I found a valid backup from TiBu that worked for me and another user. Download this zip, unzip the files into your Titanium Backup folder on your SD card. Scroll through the apps/backups in TiBu until you find [Voicemail] Dialer 2.2.2, restore app+data. Should be good to go!
Download Dialer Tab Titanium Backup files

This seems to be a common thing happening on this phone. This also happened to me when i was running complete stock no root a while back and I had to do a hard reset to get it back. I don't know what the apks issue is but its happening to a lot of people and so far the only way to get it back that I know of is to do a hard reset.

I also lost dialer on EC09 awhile back, gave up trying to fix. Just have also just been using Dialer 1. Odd thing with it though is I had to dial 911 and it wouldn't let me, every time inputted numbers it would bring up my contacts and wouldn't let me dial it.
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Well I guess it's mildly comforting to know I'm not alone with this problem. I know there must be a way to get the dialer back without a hard reset. I just got tired/overwhelmed of researching exactly how Android handles apk's and how ADB works.
I have the apk. I just haven't been able to get it on my phone properly.

Well, the problem has been solved.
Apparently the backup I made of the phone app through Titanium Backup was corrupt. I had an entire backup of my SD card on my hard drive and I tried restoring the phone app from that. Titanium Backup restored it fine.
I couldn't understand why TiBu would be unable to restore an app IT backed up! Apparently it wasn't unable to!
If anyone wants the three files created by the backup, I can zip them up and post them.

spearoid said:
Well, the problem has been solved.
Apparently the backup I made of the phone app through Titanium Backup was corrupt. I had an entire backup of my SD card on my hard drive and I tried restoring the phone app from that. Titanium Backup restored it fine.
I couldn't understand why TiBu would be unable to restore an app IT backed up! Apparently it wasn't unable to!
If anyone wants the three files created by the backup, I can zip them up and post them.
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If not to much trouble I would like a copy of them, as my Tibu won't restore either and tried another method offered here somewhere without success and just gave up.
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KJW979 said:
If not to much trouble I would like a copy of them, as my Tibu won't restore either and tried another method offered here somewhere without success and just gave up.
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I'm pretty sure I should post this link elsewhere, but here you go!
Phone 2.2.2 backup up with TiBu

Nevermind I see it's resolved.

Okay since this is zip I believe it just gets installed through recovery, am I right. So when I try it just hangs at installing, had to pull battery to restart phone.
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I'm sorry for not explaining things with the link. That is the three files that Titanium Backup creates when backing up an app. I zipped them into one file. Unzip them into your Titanium Backup folder on your SD card, and restore the phone app through Titanium Backup.

Well I give up, just going to stick with Dialer 1. Took zip, extracted and moved to Tibu backup folder, went into Tibu, didn't show up in apps list went to batch and reinstalled from batch mode and still nada. Tibu shows as installed but not there. Under application settings it shows 0.00 for file size, that can't be right, so guessing did not install.
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fix!
No need for any flashing!!!
Just go into a file explorer (like root explorer) and go into system/app/ and look for the app the has disappeared and hold it down, a menu will pop up and go down to permissions.
there will be 3 columns. The first one should have all 3 boxes checked, the second column should only have the top box checked, and the last column should have all boxes UNCHECKED.
After you do that press ok and there should be a pop up saying that permissions were changed!
And that's it! Your app should be back! If not, try installing it after u change the permissions by pressing down on the app until u get a pop up and press open with, then pick apk handler, then just install, and it should work!
I'm new to the forums, so I hope this is helpful!

killjoy1179 said:
No need for any flashing!!!
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No one has suggested or recommended flashing in this thread, to my knowledge.
Killyjoy's suggestion may very well work, but the file you downloaded from me might not have been the right one.
I have two trios of files that came from Titanium Backup when I was trying to restore the phone app. One trio has the word "phone" in it...and that's what you downloaded from me the first time, the other trio has the word "dialer" in it, and that is here
My initial instructions should still apply. Unzip these three files into your Titanium Backup folder of your SD card. Look in TiBu for "[Voicemail] Dialer"
You should see that there is a backup from 4/06/12. If the app shows as installed on your phone, I'd uninstall it (MAKE SURE you see that TiBu recognizes a backup exists first) and then restore the app+data from the backup.
That's how I got back up and running......if you want to give the TiBu method one more go.

spearoid said:
No one has suggested or recommended flashing in this thread, to my knowledge.
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Sorry, I just browsed thru the comments real quick and thought I saw the word flashing in there lol. But this way definitely works, I lost my phone apk. 2 times after installing tb101 mod and I got it back both times.
I figured I'd post some screencaps so you guys could maybe understand what I was saying a little bit better.
Hope they help!

killjoy1179 said:
No need for any flashing!!!
Just go into a file explorer (like root explorer) and go into system/app/ and look for the app the has disappeared and hold it down, a menu will pop up and go down to permissions.
there will be 3 columns. The first one should have all 3 boxes checked, the second column should only have the top box checked, and the last column should have all boxes UNCHECKED.
After you do that press ok and there should be a pop up saying that permissions were changed!
And that's it! Your app should be back! If not, try installing it after u change the permissions by pressing down on the app until u get a pop up and press open with, then pick apk handler, then just install, and it should work!
I'm new to the forums, so I hope this is helpful!
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Checked permissions they were right, used apk installer but get message saying not installed.
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spearoid said:
No one has suggested or recommended flashing in this thread, to my knowledge.
Killyjoy's suggestion may very well work, but the file you downloaded from me might not have been the right one.
I have two trios of files that came from Titanium Backup when I was trying to restore the phone app. One trio has the word "phone" in it...and that's what you downloaded from me the first time, the other trio has the word "dialer" in it, and that is here
My initial instructions should still apply. Unzip these three files into your Titanium Backup folder of your SD card. Look in TiBu for "[Voicemail] Dialer"
You should see that there is a backup from 4/06/12. If the app shows as installed on your phone, I'd uninstall it (MAKE SURE you see that TiBu recognizes a backup exists first) and then restore the app+data from the backup.
That's how I got back up and running......if you want to give the TiBu method one more go.
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This one worked, stock phone finally back, thanks for zips and help.
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Excellent! I'll update the OP

Weird...I've tried the whole process using root explorer and its not working for me either...I know it can be done, so I'm going to keep working on it.

killjoy1179 said:
Weird...I've tried the whole process using root explorer and its not working for me either...I know it can be done, so I'm going to keep working on it.
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If using Tibu to reinstall back up, I had to verify back up was there then uninstall in TiBu and then reinstall.
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Ok so I think I've got it figured out.
You delete the app that's missing out of the system
/app folder.
Copy and paste the new app into the system/app folder.
And then check the permissions and then reboot and it should be there.
Note: the app that your replacing needs to be from the Same ROM. So just download the rom your using and extract the app and go from there.
So next time your app goes missing, try this method and let me know if it works.

[Q] Titanium Backup doesn't find any backups

Hey guys,
I have a little problem here. Since 4.3 Titanium Backup doesn't find any backups of apps I did on 4.3.
So everytime I backup like Whatsapp, do a factory reset or flash a different ROM and want to flash the backup of Whatsapp through Titanium Backup I can't because Titanium Backup doesn't show it. Even after backupping and rebooting, the backup won't show.
I already tried to change the backup folder and so on but it didn't help

danslecarton said:
Hey guys,
I have a little problem here. Since 4.3 Titanium Backup doesn't find any backups of apps I did on 4.3.
So everytime I backup like Whatsapp, do a factory reset or flash a different ROM and want to flash the backup of Whatsapp through Titanium Backup I can't because Titanium Backup doesn't show it. Even after backupping and rebooting, the backup won't show.
I already tried to change the backup folder and so on but it didn't help
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Titanium has been flaky lately with no update for a while.

Preferences go to backup folder location and click select device. Search whole device and select legacy instead of 0 which was the default. Use select folder and click no to moving the backups over as they are really the same place.
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noob15 said:
Preferences go to backup folder location and click select device. Search whole device and select legacy instead of 0 which was the default. Use select folder and click no to moving the backups over as they are really the same place.
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Did that already

Noone else has this problem?

noob15 said:
Preferences go to backup folder location and click select device. Search whole device and select legacy instead of 0 which was the default. Use select folder and click no to moving the backups over as they are really the same place.
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danslecarton said:
Did that already
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Noone else has this problem?
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After going though the same procedure that noob15 explained, which was a must for upgrading to 4.3, I've had no problems.
If you've made no other changes the default folder for is "TitaniumBackup" located on your mnt/sdcard/, and inside it you should find all your backups.
If you can find no such folder, or if it's empty, you've probably managed to delete the backups.

The joke is that I can find the backups via a file manager or through PC when connected via USB in all these folders. Only Titanium Backup fails to find them

yeah i have the same problem, change the backup folder and doesnt help.