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Guys just want to confirm is the volume of S II at full (using equalizer app) same as legendry Galaxy S. As per one review on the net, they claim music playback through headphones also show distortions and noise. Is it true? Can we expect clear and loud output from other earphones, or is it actually manufacturing issue. Report say that Galaxy S II features an inferior audio chip from yamaha than the superior Wolfenson DAAC.
This would be a deciding factor for me getting this phone, morever after spending 30K (in India) for this, user will definitely look for good music through headphones.
Plz dont be LOVE n HATE biased give genuine verdicts folks. It depends on you people. Though I know replies we get here are very genuine, but being a galaxy S user for a couple of months, I am a bit biased and think Samsung makes best android phones. But at this price point money comes first and every feature included should be top notch, atleast music throgh head-phones.
I've come to the SGS2 from a Nokia 5800, which was of course built primarily as a music playing phone.
Listening with earphones:
I think the sound quality of the Nokia was a *little* better. The Sammy sounds a little harsher at the top end. But I'm perfectly happy with my new phone.
I think the maximum volume is actually louder on the Sammy, I couldn't listen to the music at max in a quiet room, it'd be too much. I think there are tweaks available to make it even louder, if you feel the need.
As for sound quality at max volume - no problems with distortion - the slightly harsh top-end doesn't get any worse.
(For reference, I'm using some very cheap but fairly decent headphones - JVC Marshmallow in-ear, the same as I used with the Nokia. I've not tried the supplied headphones as I heard they're rubbish)
Listening with the loudspeaker:
The Nokia absolutely blows it away, but then it's probably got the best stereo speakers of any smartphone. The Sammy doesn't have the volume, and it sounds thin and harsh compared to the Nokia.
However, other reviews suggest it's better than it's main competition (the HTC Sensation)... so basically I've been spoiled by the Nokia, and the Sammy is perfectly serviceable.
Thanks to RostokMcSpoons
Guys I am very happy to receive the first reply I would like to see more 7 more replies as honest as RostokMcSpoons'. I would be even glad if I can get replies from the experts like the senoir members I guess.
Perfectly acceptable for me even using stock headphones .
Nokia 5800 >> SGS1 >> SGS2
jje
Is it same of same quality and volume level as Galaxy S I9000 or is different.
I cannot tell the difference but some have said the SGS1 was better .
jje
quality is much better than any htc or motorola phones i have used. you never have to turn the volume anywhere near the top. highs, mids and base are great as well.
I am overwhelmed and one straight comparison with galaxy S music would be Icing on the cake.
I've used my SGSII with both my cheap old Sony MDR-G42's and my much-loved open-back Sennheiser HD-238 Precision and both sounded surprisingly great.
I do read some people saying about quiet sound but that's always puzzled me as the output seems no quieter than say my Creative Zen MP3 player and certainly loud enough to drive both styles of headphone well enough.
Probably S II is a good buy, I believe I am going for it this weekend.
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Is it same of same quality and volume level as Galaxy S I9000 or is different.
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Volume is about the same. Sound quality through the HP out is decent enough, borderline good - it's good across the frequency range and has a decent amount of detail - if a bit congested. However, when Compared the the SGS1 with voodoo sound - it's nowhere near as good. No suprises there, as a SGS1 + Voodoo sound may have the best SQ of all mobile devices, including mp3 players (such as the ipod touch and sony walkmen). Please keep in mind that this subjective.
Having said that, the SQ is good and will definitely be good enough for most people - especially if you add poweramp to the mix.
Thank you for your response
I believe voodoo sound is a mod, is by any chance in future this mod can be ported for s II as well.
S II wins heart but very big in size
My doubt has finally come to an end the music through headphones is good enough (using creative ep-630), not used the default ones yet. But truly the EQ widget boosts the music.
As usual
i presume NoteII use the same variant of Wolfson seen in SGSIII
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As usual
i presume NoteII use the same variant of Wolfson seen in SGSIII
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It better and if memory serves me right, the Yamaha in the Note I sounded better than the one in the GS2, because the Note was larger. Let's hope for Wolfson with even better sound than the GS3, due to more room in the Note II.
Thank You for making this thread
Edit: Yes. I've just received confirmation from an anonymous source, that it has a WM1811
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Can't wait!
Cool!
Sound Quality should be quiet decent with Wolfson WM1811.
https://twitter.com/supercurio/status/242625984879280128
Just pre-ordered my Note 2, will post impressions on SQ when it arrives, as per usual
Hoping to get some time with it before retail release too, but don't know how that will pan out.
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Just pre-ordered my Note 2, will post impressions on SQ when it arrives, as per usual
Hoping to get some time with it before retail release too, but don't know how that will pan out.
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As an iPhone 4S owner that listens thru high end iems i'm really looking forward to your impressiones. Especially now that iPhone 5 has turned out to be a slight step back over 4/4S. It might be time for switching...
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_ii-review-824p8.php
"Audio output is perfectly clean, but on the quiet side
The Samsung Galaxy Note II obviously shares many of its music playback-related internals with the Galaxy S III as it managed to aced our audio quality test in a similar manner to its more compact sibling.
The only average volume levels aside, the Galaxy Note II results came out perfect in the first part of our test. When connected to an active external amplifier, the phablet produces excellently clean output with no weak points whatsoever.
Even more impressively, stereo crosstalk is the only thing to get damaged when we plugged in a pair of headphones. On that occasion the Note II produced one of the cleanest outputs we have seen from a mobile device and that includes the recently tested Apple iPhone 5."
The volume levels are worrying. I figure a large device like this with all it's juice should be able to drive most off the shelf earphones well.
I have the S3 and it is ok, but still the 4S beats it for music playback. And still no Voodoo for the S3.
In any event I've ordered the Note and I suppose if it is not what I hope for it will be easy to sell quickly.
got mine today
an improvement in sound quality compared with the Note 1 but not very impressed with maximum loudness with earphones (Monster Turbine Coppers)
The Loudspeaker is a massive improvement and is nearly as loud as my macbook pro 15!!
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got mine today
an improvement in sound quality compared with the Note 1 but not very impressed with maximum loudness with earphones (Monster Turbine Coppers)
The Loudspeaker is a massive improvement and is nearly as loud as my macbook pro 15!!
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That's why we need VooDoo... Hope Supercurio will do that...
@gsmarena REVIEW OF THE GALAXY NOTE II
Audio output is perfectly clean, but on the quiet side
The Samsung Galaxy Note II obviously shares many of its music playback-related internals with the Galaxy S III as it managed to aced our audio quality test in a similar manner to its more compact sibling.
The only average volume levels aside, the Galaxy Note II results came out perfect in the first part of our test. When connected to an active external amplifier, the phablet produces excellently clean output with no weak points whatsoever.
Even more impressively, stereo crosstalk is the only thing to get damaged when we plugged in a pair of headphones. On that occasion the Note II produced one of the cleanest outputs we have seen from a mobile device and that includes the recently tested Apple iPhone 5. The higher volume levels of iOS flagship would probably still make it a slightly better option for audiophiles, though.
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@gsmarena REVIEW OF THE GALAXY NOTE II
Audio output is perfectly clean, but on the quiet side
The Samsung Galaxy Note II obviously shares many of its music playback-related internals with the Galaxy S III as it managed to aced our audio quality test in a similar manner to its more compact sibling.
The only average volume levels aside, the Galaxy Note II results came out perfect in the first part of our test. When connected to an active external amplifier, the phablet produces excellently clean output with no weak points whatsoever.
Even more impressively, stereo crosstalk is the only thing to get damaged when we plugged in a pair of headphones. On that occasion the Note II produced one of the cleanest outputs we have seen from a mobile device and that includes the recently tested Apple iPhone 5. The higher volume levels of iOS flagship would probably still make it a slightly better option for audiophiles, though.
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Tried one in store yesterday. The audio thru my Westone UM3x was quite decent but i could not assess the output power properly since i don't know the intrinsic loudness of the preloaded tune.
The usual Android background hiss was there and switching back and forth with an S3 running ICS it had the same level. Thus that rumours about Jelly Bean improving the audio engine have not turned out to be fulfilled for the moment.
Overall i'd rate is a 3.5-4 star headphone out (Out of 5) depending on the output power. Still not on par with the iPhone 4/4S (which is the benchmark for handset headphone outs) but it's an step in the right direction. Linearity was pretty damn good
It's early days with my note 2 but I have power-amp installed & so far I'm finding the S3 sounds better, maybe the Note 2 DAC needs running a bit.
Hopefully then It'll be just as good
The FM radio still has the horrid back ground hiss & buzz that is present on the S3. This is a little disappointing.
Got mine yesterday, sound quality is good but low which is absolutely not to my liking.
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Got mine yesterday, sound quality is good but low which is absolutely not to my liking.
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It would help to assess the output power if users quote the headphones they are using. In order to discern which sensivity & impedance are no gos with that handset.
Remember that the UK and European Union have laws that limit the headphone volume (Volume Limit Cap) in music players and mobile phones.. That is why the headphone volume of these EU notes are quieter than the US phones.
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Remember that the UK and European Union have laws that limit the headphone volume (Volume Limit Cap) in music players and mobile phones.. That is why the headphone volume of these EU notes are quieter than the US phones.
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On my sansa clip (R.I.P ) it was possible to change it in the settings.
Can it be done here to?
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On my sansa clip (R.I.P ) it was possible to change it in the settings.
Can it be done here to?
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Is anybody using balanced armature iems experiencing low sound pressure levels ?
As for UE regulations it seems that they do not apply to Apple. iPhone 4S can go really really loud. And my old iPhone 3GS cpuld as well.
Why is it Samsung caps the headphone out and Apple does not ?
Here's a question. Currently I am on an iPhone 5, and it looks like I'll be making the switch to the S4. But before I do, I need to be reassured of one thing.
I use my iPhone 5 as my main and only music player. I have a pair of $150 Monster Turbines, and I take my musical quality very seriously relative to the iPhone 5. My question is, does the S4 have ATLEAST the same or better SQ in all ranges?
Is this app dependent? ROM dependent? I'm new to Android, but not technically unsavvy by ANY means..
Just need to know..
I had the same worries as you did. I came from the iPhone 4, running an ATH-m50 setup up with a fiio e5 amp and switched over to the HTC one x+and have transitioned very smoothly. I recommend finding a player per your taste though.
Take a look at power amp and neuron player! I hope this helps.
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Well there is a feature called 'adapt sound' you go through a hearing test. After the test is done it auto EQ's the EQ's in the music player. I have monster inspirations (noise cancelling) and beyerdynamic T1. With adapt sound on in both cans there's better upper range clarity when differentiating between instruments. I like having the feature on. Makes the music more enjoyable of sorts.
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There seems to be a lot of mixed opinions. It's not that the Qualcomm audio chipset is bad, it's actually quite good, but it up samples audio from 24bit/44khz to 48khz if I'm correct, which kind of degrades the quality a little. I doubt a $150 pair of headphones is gonna be affected by this though. Now if you were rocking some real hardcore audio equipment like $500+ custom monitors, then this might be noticeable.
Apple products still are on top when it comes to audio player quality. I doubt it'll be noticeable with your headphones
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Don't even think a second about sound quality. It's awesome with S4. I use shure se530 head phones. You want to tweak the sound you may use Power Amp. That is what i use. I tried Iphone (3/4/4S/5) several times and sound is better with Power Amp in Galaxy S3/S4(Snapdragon also). Without Power Amp you may not like the sound that much.
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Don't even think a second about sound quality. It's awesome with S4. I use shure se530 head phones. You want to tweak the sound you may use Power Amp. That is what i use. I tried Iphone (3/4/4S/5) several times and sound is better with Power Amp in Galaxy S3/S4(Snapdragon also). Without Power Amp you may not like the sound that much.
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Actually I recommend trying Gone Mad Music Player, so much better then Power Amp in my opinion
As many have said. Power amp is worth the purchase.
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iphone 5 is a good music player of course.
in android some app can improve the SQ for us. such as poweramp and more.
If you can score an international version, it was supposed to get the much higher quality Wolfson audio chips:
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/04/18...-for-galaxy-range-of-smartphones-and-tablets/
I think the t-mobile version might also have the same hardware as the international version...?
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I'm using Ultimate Ears Triple.fi 10 Pro Earphones with Westone cables. I find the S4 sound quality pleasing, but lacking in bass.
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I'm using Ultimate Ears Triple.fi 10 Pro Earphones with Westone cables. I find the S4 sound quality pleasing, but lacking in bass.
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This is a major problem for me, as 90% of my music is hip hop.
My monster turbines were designed to accentuate bass
I have a 15' sub in my car, that I LOVE to flex, and if it gonna be as bassy and clean as it is like my iPhone (on hip hop EQ) then we've got problems...
EpicMango said:
This is a major problem for me, as 90% of my music is hip hop.
My monster turbines were designed to accentuate bass
I have a 15' sub in my car, that I LOVE to flex, and if it gonna be as bassy and clean as it is like my iPhone (on hip hop EQ) then we've got problems...
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The S4 isnt lacking in bass at all. It has more bass than my HTC Vivid did...and that was a "Beats"-advertised phone. The S4 has terrific sound quality for a phone. And if you want a nice EQ, get Poweramp. It is well worth the purchase. And if you enjoy bass, don't worry - you can crank the bass up insanely high with Poweramp.
I was very worried about audio quality before getting the S4. And I am absolutely satisfied.
Oh and before you go looking at the HTC One, there have been reports of bluetooth audio streaming distorting the high frequency sounds. The S4 doesnt have this problem.
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If you can score an international version, it was supposed to get the much higher quality Wolfson audio chips:
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/04/18...-for-galaxy-range-of-smartphones-and-tablets/
I think the t-mobile version might also have the same hardware as the international version...?
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Tmobile has exact same hardware as att...has been discussed in one of the official bootloader unlock threads
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The S4 isnt lacking in bass at all. It has more bass than my HTC Vivid did...and that was a "Beats"-advertised phone. The S4 has terrific sound quality for a phone. And if you want a nice EQ, get Poweramp. It is well worth the purchase. And if you enjoy bass, don't worry - you can crank the bass up insanely high with Poweramp.
I was very worried about audio quality before getting the S4. And I am absolutely satisfied.
Oh and before you go looking at the HTC One, there have been reports of bluetooth audio streaming distorting the high frequency sounds. The S4 doesnt have this problem.
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I would definitely not say the s4 has terrific sound quality....you can't base it off the fact your vivid had beats as that's just a software eq...you've obviously never had a phone with a Wolfson dac....those phones have the best sound quality of every phone-,and with voodoo sound you can tweak it at the hardware level
When it comes to portable music....my infuse is my main player...it blows the s4 and HTC vivid sound quality out of the water
Now the s4 sound quality is acceptable and not bad in any way...just wouldn't say its terrific...this is coming from an audiophile with studio monitors and studio monitor headphones
BTW, I had a vivid too...think I remember your name
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I'm using Ultimate Ears Triple.fi 10 Pro Earphones with Westone cables. I find the S4 sound quality pleasing, but lacking in bass.
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I am running the same setup (stock cables) and previously used a FiiO E6 amp when I had these with my Galaxy S 2... With the S4, I don't need the portable amp and like others stated, PowerAMP is my recommended player - well worth the purchase. I jumped onto PowerAMP right as soon as I found out that it does both FLAC and Gapless, and the interface is beautiful and easily links to the lockscreen (not rooted).
As far as audio quality, I love the V shape audio that PowerAMP(Techno preset) produces onto my IEM's and I also have an iPad Mini (I think Wolfsons audio chip) and yet still prefer the audio from the S4...
Audio becomes very subjective at this point, but I have NOT been disappointed with my S4 and audio quality - especially comparing it to my old Galaxy S II...
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Tmobile has exact same hardware as att...has been discussed in one of the official bootloader unlock threads
I would definitely not say the s4 has terrific sound quality....you can't base it off the fact your vivid had beats as that's just a software eq...you've obviously never had a phone with a Wolfson dac....those phones have the best sound quality of every phone-,and with voodoo sound you can tweak it at the hardware level
When it comes to portable music....my infuse is my main player...it blows the s4 and HTC vivid sound quality out of the water
Now the s4 sound quality is acceptable and not bad in any way...just wouldn't say its terrific...this is coming from an audiophile with studio monitors and studio monitor headphones
BTW, I had a vivid too...think I remember your name
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Nope never had a Wolfson unfortunately. And I said terrific...for a phone lol. I have never had a phone with sound quality this good. And it will only get better with newer Sammy phones because of their deal with Wolfson. As for the Vivid, I remember reading your name a few times over there and yeah Beats is a software adjustment on the Vivid, but the sound quality was better on the Vivid than it was on my Inspire...and now better on my S4 than on my Vivid.
And yes I am an audiophile as well...I have studio cans and when it comes to absolute pure music quality, I use my desktop comouter as the setup is fantastic for a quality listening experience. But for a modern phone on the market. ..well I dont know of any quadcore phones that have a Wolfson chip...not yet anyway that is. I'm very sure this will change soon though...and its about time manufacturers started to pay more attention to the audio quality in their phones. There are those of us who need it...to basically survive lmao.
Bottom line for me is that there may be better phones out there for music quality, but they lack the horsepower of the S4. And there is a lot more that I do with this phone than just listen to music. The sound quality may not be Wolfson good, but it's definitely good enough and gets the job done very well as far as I'm concerned.
Oh and if someone is very concerned about music quality, there are external DACs that can be attached to the phone's micro USB port which are phenomenal. Though they are as big as the phone is, they work well lol.
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Nope never had a Wolfson unfortunately. And I said terrific...for a phone lol. I have never had a phone with sound quality this good. And it will only get better with newer Sammy phones because of their deal with Wolfson. As for the Vivid, I remember reading your name a few times over there and yeah Beats is a software adjustment on the Vivid, but the sound quality was better on the Vivid than it was on my Inspire...and now better on my S4 than on my Vivid.
And yes I am an audiophile as well...I have studio cans and when it comes to absolute pure music quality, I use my desktop comouter as the setup is fantastic for a quality listening experience. But for a modern phone on the market. ..well I dont know of any quadcore phones that have a Wolfson chip...not yet anyway that is. I'm very sure this will change soon though...and its about time manufacturers started to pay more attention to the audio quality in their phones. There are those of us who need it...to basically survive lmao.
Bottom line for me is that there may be better phones out there for music quality, but they lack the horsepower of the S4. And there is a lot more that I do with this phone than just listen to music. The sound quality may not be Wolfson good, but it's definitely good enough and gets the job done very well as far as I'm concerned.
Oh and if someone is very concerned about music quality, there are external DACs that can be attached to the phone's micro USB port which are phenomenal. Though they are as big as the phone is, they work well lol.
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Any words if the Note4 speaker is louder and have more bass than the Note3 speaker?
I'm hoping the speaker is at least as good as the Note2 speaker... if that's the case it's time to upgrade my Note2. If not I might hang on to my Note2 yet another year.
hahahahahaha your username. oh dear god. horrible, awful memories.
but i heard the speaker at best buy. it's pretty tinny sounding. nothing that viper4android can't fix though!
Any words if the Note4 speaker is louder and have more bass than the Note3 speaker?<br />
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I'm hoping the speaker is at least as good as the Note2 speaker... if that's the case it's time to upgrade my Note2. If not I might hang on to my Note2 yet another year.<br/
I have a note 2 and I went to best buy and checked out the note 4. Speaker sound was even better than my Note 2.
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Any words if the Note4 speaker is louder and have more bass than the Note3 speaker?
I'm hoping the speaker is at least as good as the Note2 speaker... if that's the case it's time to upgrade my Note2. If not I might hang on to my Note2 yet another year.
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Unfortanetelly I can't tell you regarding the bass but according to two or three reviewers is definitely louder.
It sounded pretty loud when I heard it playing a video
i can attest that its louder but it gets distorted at max level. simply there is no upgrade in clarity or fidelity in comparison to older models.
Played with it yesterday can tell you its definitely louder than the note 3 speaker and sounds more bassy imo
At BB guy had note 3 and note 4 side by side, max vol and playing through notification sounds....note 4 was definitely louder! Noticably so...looking forward to the improved volume.
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So conflicted. After moving from Samsung to the M8, I've gotten so spoiled when it comes to sound. Not sure if I should go for the Note 4, but that screen is so tantalizing. Heck, even the iPhone 6 is tempting me these days, until I read the specs again, and then I just can't justify the price any more.
Oh well, I guess I'll just buy the Note 4 and then decide which to keep.
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Played with it yesterday can tell you its definitely louder than the note 3 speaker and sounds more bassy imo
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Thanks... maybe it's the same speaker as on the Note2 since it's been moved back to the rear side of the phone?
I never purchased the Note3 due to the speaker being worse than on my Note2.
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Thanks... maybe it's the same speaker as on the Note2 since it's been moved back to the rear side of the phone?
I never purchased the Note3 due to the speaker being worse than on my Note2.
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I do not think it is the same speaker as the note 2, as that was one hell of a great speaker. What I can say it is noticeably louder than the note 3,and quite possibly louder than the note 2. The note 2 to me has a "deeper" sound, and the note 4 doesn't quite get to that level of bass. Much more clarity than the note 2 and 3. I think with Viper4android or any other speaker and sound mods on xda, the note 4 could have the best speaker of all samsung phones (despite my dislike for the back positioning)
I really like my note 2 speaker. I hope the note 4 will be better. Planning to get one next week.
Speaker comparisons
The Note4 speaker is the only thing I'm not convinced is an upgrade over my great Note2 speaker that can sound good at max volume while the two times I tested out the Note4 its speaker sounded terrible at max volume (while it sounds louder the quality of sound from the Note4 seems worse-definitely at max volume but didn't test extensively on lower volumes where it may be comparable or perhaps even an upgrade as long as the volume is more regulated than the Note2 that typically sounds good on all volumes). I did notice the Note4 speakers sound good with certain high quality recordings like certain 1080p movie trailers while other YouTube videos sound significantly less enjoyable. Of course I do have various bluetooth speakers but I'd like not to have to carry them when I want to show something to a few people when mobile. The Note3 speaker was so bad it was a deal breaker for me so I didn't get it (definitely seemed worse than the Note2 speaker) but I hope not to have to wait for the Note5 for decent speakers so please owners-reviewers let us know your experience with the Note4 speaker vs Note2&3 speakers & I hope Samsung focuses more on speaker quality next time as it's such a great multimedia handset otherwise.
Below were my comments after the first time with a Note4 at BestBuy (2nd time was last night) in response to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VArmujW0hEI:
I finally had a chance to see the Note4 in person at BestBuy on Oct 1 (just after I saw the iPhone 6/+Plus again for my dad & left even more unimpressed with the iPhone6s) while the Note4 screen is stunning. It is so much brighter & crisper with pleasing colors (not so obviously oversaturated in a nauseating artificial cartoony way as in some prior amoled displays) compared to my dimmer 720p Note 2 but also the comparatively duller iPhone 6 screens I'd just seen.
The camera shots ability to zoom in the 16MP photos was amazing so in that sense more pixels really is helpful compared to iPhone's 8 MP & the quality was excellent although some shots looked hazy yet the lighting was not great at the time so will need to keep testing. The front facing 3.7 MP camera may be too wide angle for many potential uses but you can adjust the modes some it seems.
I too had been obsessing somewhat on the slow mo quality & not having sound like the iPhone (although I tested slow mo quickly on iPhone6+ & the sound recording was weak but still better than no sound). I remember the slow motion & fast motion video options on my Note2 was fun (before the iPhone had slow mo) but Samsung hasn't really advanced much there (although slow motion now seems FHD where only fast motion was FHD on my note2). My Note2 also had many of the same video effects like cartoonify but noticed other cool ones like Oil Pastel & Moody etc that should be fun along with its dual camera mode (like the Note 3 but with better cameras) recording both the front & rear facing camera simultaneously that I'll likely use more than a slow mo that still records without any sound in Note2,3,4.. maybe Note5 will have slow motion audio capture with front facing speakers..
I'm disappointed that Samsung does not focus more on sound as while the Note4 speaker is very loud at max volume it sounds terrible requiring a volume lowering to sound acceptable while my Note 2 speaker is solid mostly even at max volume & the Note 3 speaker was so bad I couldn't "downgrade" to it. Samsung is more known for their display technology than sound technology but I was hoping for at least as good as my Note2 speaker & I'm not convinced it is although it is definitely louder but I wouldn't keep it at higher volumes due to sounding so strained & unpleasing. Note 4 speaker is definitely better than the Note3 speaker where it was a deal breaker for me but Samsung should do better. Also noticed the iPhone 6 no longer has 2 speakers like in the iPhone 5s rather one smaller speaker at the bottom in the new thinner iPhones that seemed unimpressive but don't remember distortion at loud volumes like with the Note 4 so would recommend staying away from those louder volume settings when avoidable in the Note4. The Nexus 6 is supposed to have dual front facing stereo speakers so curious about it & its other specs but don't know yet if it will have removable battery functionality like the Note line. I simply pop in a new inexpensive replaceable battery on my Note2 daily & thus no need to be a wall hugger like iPhoners (or no longer have to put up with so called "range anxiety" that many current electric car owners describe).
The Note 4 feels much more dense & solid in the hand like a weapon compared to plastic making it feel more premium but no longer get that feather light feeling that some may be used to. BestBuy only had the white model which is better looking with metal frame+accents & more premium feeling than the noticeably taller white iPhone 6 Plus. I'd like to see the Note4 in black like my Note2 but the display definitely pops on the white display with its metal accents yet I'm still leaning toward black with cases to change its looks (typically get http://www.seidioonline.com/samsung-galaxy-note-4-surface-kickstand-case-black-p/csr3ssgt4k-bk.htm (plus removable http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004EVFO1G ) but may get http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MAWQKIW & open to suggestions as cases have spared me from damage. After seeing this drop test I'm considering a screen protector for its gorgeous screen but previously have preferred naked gorilla glass screens with cases providing a protective barrier lip from direct (but admittedly not indirect angle hits).
What's ridiculous is that BestBuy can not manage to supply consistent wifi so during the 2 hours of testing had about 8 minutes of WiFi to stream 1080p content on YouTube & no chance to stream 4K YouTube content. Because it was in display mode it would (eventually) see my android tether but would not connect to it. I mentioned to the Samsung rep that if BestBuy can't manage to provide WiFi to them that Samsung should supply their own private WiFi to properly showcase-sell Samsung products otherwise many people just walk away frustrated.
I'm hoping when I go back to BestBuy I'll be able to properly test whether 480p-720p-1080p content looks worse upscaled on a 2K screen of the Note4 compared to Note3's native 1080p screen or Note2's native 720p screen. Most of my & YouTube's videos are 480p-720p-1080p & not yet 4K so would like someone to try to settle the debate of whether the Note4's native 2K display is a less practical resolution for legacy videos despite its brighter more vivid display..
Look forward to checking it out again soon..
Update: On my 2nd visit last night I was able to stream 4K YouTube videos which was cool but not mind blowing on the 2K screen (native 4K recording on its screen seemed more impressive to me visually for some reason maybe because it was self enpowering & less passive) & in limited tests upscaled 480p-720p-1080p didn't look problematic but did not have the opportunity to do side by side testing where native resolutions matching content without upscaling typically looks best (e.g. blow up lower resolution photos to a higher resolution & it looks less sharp) so I'm still curious if 2K resolution is the most practical resolution for most legacy videos but the main issue leaving me feel underwhelmed & dissatisfied is its speaker that I'm not convinced is better & actually worse sounding at max volume than the Note2 so I had to keep it at least 1-3 levels below max depending on the recording I was listening to.
Interested in more discussion of the Note4 speaker from owners-testers compared to Note2.:highfive:
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I have a Note 2 and just upgraded to the Note 4.
I have compared both with the same file in Sound Player and could not detect Note 4 being louder.
Slightly sad that in 2014 Samsung hasn't added stereo speakers yet.
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I have a Note 2 and just upgraded to the Note 4.
I have compared both with the same file in Sound Player and could not detect Note 4 being louder.
Slightly sad that in 2014 Samsung hasn't added stereo speakers yet.
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Please try more than one file, watch various identical YouTube videos (e.g. movie trailers, music, tech reviews) & comment on quality-volume levels. The Note4 sounded louder but terrible at max volume vs Note2 that typically sounds good at all volumes but the environment was loud & included at times three Note4's blasted at once so not the best test environment.
I just comment the following at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UYwfonN2hM
Thanks for this video Michael but anyone who has heard the Note4 speaker knows it's better than the terrible Note3 speaker which isn't saying much..the comparison has to include the solid Note2 speaker & showing how the Note2 can typically sound good at max volume while the Note4 sounds terrible on max volume sadly. Most markets including US (where it's only available to demo in BestBuy-not purchase until Oct 17th), we haven't had the chance to test extensively the Note2 speaker vs the Note4 which frankly is the more common upgrade scenario (& people including myself refused to upgrade to the Note3 because the speaker was so inferior to the Note2) & we'd greatly appreciate if you compare to Note2 speaker. If the Nexus 6 rumors prove true likely next week then it may be as fast as the Note4 (with a larger 5.9 QHD screen yet ~same size) with dual stereo front facing speakers & Android L at a significantly lower cost so please do the test vs Note2, if it's as good as the Note2 & just have to keep it away from max volume many would upgrade given the pen & other enhancements but if the Note4 speaker is actually worse than the Note2 speaker people may have to look to the Nexus 6 until the Note5 catches up. Please compare the Note4 speaker to the Note2 speaker. -Thnx
BTW, I know The Daily Note YouTube Channel has the Note2 to compare it to: " *Note 2 Tips & Tricks Table of Contents: http://tinyurl.com/b64yfs2 " & hope it didn't neglect to compare The Note2 speaker because it would make the Note4 look like a downgrade..still have my fingers crossed that the Note4 speaker isn't a downgrade from the Note2 speaker..
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Moto...e-screen-size-is-questioned-no-longer_id61536
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...-battery-dual-front-facing-speakers-and-more/
https://www.google.com/webhp?source...&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=Nexus 6 dual speaker photo
nvm..
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Also noticed the iPhone 6 no longer has 2 speakers like in the iPhone 5s rather one smaller speaker at the bottom in the new thinner iPhones that seemed unimpressive but don't remember distortion at loud volumes like with the Note 4 so would recommend staying away from those louder volume settings when avoidable in the Note4.
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Pretty sure the 5s also has only 1 speaker. Sure it has 2 seperate speaker grills at the bottom...but if you cover one of them....the sound doesn't change at all.
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Pretty sure the 5s also has only 1 speaker. Sure it has 2 seperate speaker grills at the bottom...but if you cover one of them....the sound doesn't change at all.
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True that the image at https://www.apple.com/iphone-5s/specs/ suggests the larger grill is for the built-in speaker while the other smaller grill is actually for the microphone but sadly that doesn't translate to the Note4 having a pleasing speaker to match its pleasing screen. I'd be satisfied if it matched the Note2 from 2 years ago but I'm not convinced it does as it definitely sounds terrible at higher-max volumes while the Note2 doesn't. Hoping to hear from people who upgraded to the Note4 from the Note2 for their perspective but if the Note4 had a better speaker I wouldn't be so interested in the Nexus6 expected to be announced on 10/15.
I returned my note 4 speaker was horrible whilst it was louder than note 3 as it was back firing it sounded lower when watching stuff going to get a nexus 6 never going samsung again till they fix their speakers otherwise was a nice phone.
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I returned my note 4 speaker was horrible whilst it was louder than note 3 as it was back firing it sounded lower when watching stuff going to get a nexus 6 never going samsung again till they fix their speakers otherwise was a nice phone.
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I did the same! Ordered it direct from Samsung on the Monday,, they had mine back by Thursday . I lodged a complaint, was told it would reach the right people.
I am incensed that Samsung released the Note 4 with such an embarrassingly bad speaker. It's awful. Even my Note 3 sounds wonderful compared to it!
I tried many players, none could save it.. It's gone back.
Did you state speaker quality as your reason for return as well?
If those bafoons used the Note 2 speaker the 4 would be a killer phone, you made a mistake there Samsung.
Morning all, I've always had an android phone, more recently I've joined a well known financial firm and obtained a brand new iPhone 6 for literally nothing, which is essentially the anti Christ in my eyes, to my dismay I realised that not only was this phone everything I thought it wasn't it's also got superb battery life and is ridiculously louder than my note 4 with far better bass, my question is this, can lollipop sound be boosted, I'm currently on echo pop Rom, the audio with ael kernel doesn't work as it should by all accounts. But having owned an S3, I know Samsung phones are toned down when it comes to the audio.
My iPhone is pure stock, it's audio is amazing, both on headphones, Bluetooth and speaker volume.
All help appreciated.
@dladz IPhone? You know that santan will come for your soul tonight, right? But to get back on the subject, I have to agree on the sound, I personally think that with the same Headset the iPhone sounds better then the stock Note4. Battery life of the iPhone is the same or a little less then the Note4. Regards
My dogs names marley, weird. But I agree, the audio is superior. Samsung shouldn't hold their audio back, think they've always done that though. .
Hi, I would say that the audio from the note 4 is better than the iphone, but only when you are using google play music. This is because it is one of the few apps that doesn't use Samsung's software equaliser, The DAC on the snapdragon 805 is better than that of the iphones cirrus logic chip, plus it supports 24 bit 192 khz audio decoding on the chip. I'm surprised that there hasn't been more praise for the note 4's audio.
P.s. The Note 4 (SM-N910F) & SoundMagic E10 are a stunning combo.
Sent from my SM-N910F using XDA Free mobile app
I all bull****. Iphones audio quality is rubbish. No equalizers, viper audio is far superior.
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I'm sure theres a few thread knocking around in the apps and themes section. They will probably up the default volumes by a bit by altering the default values in the system, then I would use Viper Audio, which I also agree is superior.
I literally could not believe the difference once Viper was installed and configured it blew me away.
Samsung may have a better way of decoding the audio but what good is that with a small shi**y speaker.
I think personally if you want a phone for its audio quality its HTC one all day.
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I all bull****. Iphones audio quality is rubbish. No equalizers, viper audio is far superior.
Sent from the first Samsung Galaxy ever
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Did you actually read what I wrote ? I have always hated apple. I got this phone for next to nothing, the only reason I chose it is because I've never has one, that being said I didn't start this thread to spark a debate, that's not what this is so if you want to come in here and moan on about apple and say the audio is terrible then don't, I asked a question, if you do not have an answer then kindly either remove your comment or don't write anything.
Viper audio is a good mod, as is acid sound mod too. However, at stock levels the iPhone is miles ahead. Even with the note 4 tweaked the iPhone was ahead. I haven't tried acid mod as I don't think it's available for the note 4 as of yet but besides that I think it's a lost cause.
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Hi, I would say that the audio from the note 4 is better than the iphone, but only when you are using google play music. This is because it is one of the few apps that doesn't use Samsung's software equaliser, The DAC on the snapdragon 805 is better than that of the iphones cirrus logic chip, plus it supports 24 bit 192 khz audio decoding on the chip. I'm surprised that there hasn't been more praise for the note 4's audio.
P.s. The Note 4 (SM-N910F) & SoundMagic E10 are a stunning combo.
Sent from my SM-N910F using XDA Free mobile app
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Agree with the chip, we know from HTC that great things can be done with it, however this isn't HTC it's Samsung and the speaker is tinny and low (at stock) I just compared the two devices with the same song..please try it next time you're in a phone shop, the difference is undeniable.
Haven't used sound magic, but I do own the 910f, at least until the M9 comes out anyway.
If acid mod comes out on the note 4 I have no doubt that the audio will vastly improve, last time I used this (or even needed it) was on my galaxy S3, the audio on that phone was similarly shocking, with that mod it was one of the loudest phones I've ever heard.
On your second point. I completely disagree with it, Google play makes no difference in this comparison.
I have tried, I also use power amp which is undoubtedly the best player to ever grace android.
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I'm sure theres a few thread knocking around in the apps and themes section. They will probably up the default volumes by a bit by altering the default values in the system, then I would use Viper Audio, which I also agree is superior.
I literally could not believe the difference once Viper was installed and configured it blew me away.
Samsung may have a better way of decoding the audio but what good is that with a small shi**y speaker.
I think personally if you want a phone for its audio quality its HTC one all day.
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There are a few threads, not the one I was looking for (acid mod) but again like you said it's a terrible speaker, also if you think about it, with HTC (besides the speakers) you have an active eq, software that adapts and adapts well, that's literally what the iphone has, they also own beats now too which is essentially what the eq was on HTC devices, I'm guessing that they might have used some code from the beats software for boomsound.
With viper , as much as it may help , it's not an active eq, it doesn't mould to the music the way the other two do, neither does acid.
Louder ? Maybe. Better audio quality ? I'm not so sure.
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Agree with the chip, we know from HTC that great things can be done with it, however this isn't HTC it's Samsung and the speaker is tinny and low (at stock) I just compared the two devices with the same song..please try it next time you're in a phone shop, the difference is undeniable.
Haven't used sound magic, but I do own the 910f, at least until the M9 comes out anyway.
If acid mod comes out on the note 4 I have no doubt that the audio will vastly improve, last time I used this (or even needed it) was on my galaxy S3, the audio on that phone was similarly shocking, with that mod it was one of the loudest phones I've ever heard.
On your second point. I completely disagree with it, Google play makes no difference in this comparison.
I have tried, I also use power amp which is undoubtedly the best player to ever grace android.
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I do like HTC for their boom sound speakers, but when I have my headphones on I'm more of an audiophile. It may be a selective carrier thing or just software variations but with play music (actually, after some testing, all non samsung audio player apps) have a much more natural and slightly louder sound. There must be some software sound enhancement trickery on the touchwiz side.
I do understand that sound is subjective, so what I hear others may hear differently. These are just my obeservations
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I do like HTC for their boom sound speakers, but when I have my headphones on I'm more of an audiophile. It may be a selective carrier thing or just software variations but with play music (actually, after some testing, all non samsung audio player apps) have a much more natural and slightly louder sound. There must be some software sound enhancement trickery on the touchwiz side.
I do understand that sound is subjective, so what I hear others may hear differently. These are just my obeservations
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Try audiotechnica w5000's never heard anything quite like them before. Cost you an arm and a leg but the audio is phenomenal.
the solution is
doing a root an install Walkman player fuul ported from its Z3
really amazing Sony is with its sound technology
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crazydeepman said:
the solution is
doing a root an install Walkman player fuul ported from its Z3
really amazing Sony is with its sound technology
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Haven't tried that before but I did own a Z1 which i rooted, the audio for me wasn't out of this world, the iPhone still has much better audio i'm afraid, htc definitely better audio.
Sony does have some plus points but don't think the audio is better mate.