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[Q] Updated to 4.2.2 and lost my custom recovery

I updated to 4.2.2 the other day, and it appeared that I lost both root and my custom recovery (TWRP), but my bootloader remained unlocked. Root-specific actions wouldn't work (e.g., TB wouldn't work, no access to root in Solid Explorer or Root Explorer, AdAway stopped working, etc.). This was despite having survival mode activated in SuperSu. I also learned I couldn't boot into recovery when I tried to restore a nandroid I made prior to updating.
Somehow though, root reappeared and everything works as normal, except I still cannot boot into recovery.
Any clue why my custom recovery disappeared permanently but root was preserved (albeit, root not preserved at first, but it DID end up coming back)? Also, can I just re-flash TWRP as I normally would?
Thanks.

moose&beer said:
I updated to 4.2.2 the other day, and it appeared that I lost both root and my custom recovery (TWRP), but my bootloader remained unlocked. Root-specific actions wouldn't work (e.g., TB wouldn't work, no access to root in Solid Explorer or Root Explorer, AdAway stopped working, etc.). This was despite having survival mode activated in SuperSu. I also learned I couldn't boot into recovery when I tried to restore a nandroid I made prior to updating.
Somehow though, root reappeared and everything works as normal, except I still cannot boot into recovery.
Any clue why my custom recovery disappeared permanently but root was preserved (albeit, root not preserved at first, but it DID end up coming back)? Also, can I just re-flash TWRP as I normally would?
Thanks.
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Strange first I've heard of that with the N10. I would try to reinstall TWRP with Goomanager.

sfobrien said:
Strange first I've heard of that with the N10. I would try to reinstall TWRP with Goomanager.
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mine did the same, as mentioned above I just re-installed TWRP with goomanager and everything is back to normal.

I might have misunderstood, did you guys do the OTA? Got my forums mixed up thought we were talking about flashing CleanROM.

sfobrien said:
I might have misunderstood, did you guys do the OTA? Got my forums mixed up thought we were talking about flashing CleanROM.
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No worries. And yeah, I did the OTA, but held off until Google pushed a notification to my N10 for the update. I'll give goomanager a try. Appreciate the replies. Thanks.

This is normal behaviour in a OTA update. Installs a couple of files that, if a custom recovery is installed, reflash stock recovery on reboot. This doesn't happen if you flash a factory image.
A bit off topic but, there was the need to have device at stock condition (everything stock) before running OTA process, but as of now and personal experience, twrp 2.4.1.0 can also run an OTA update straight from Android.
Sent from my Nexus 10 using xda app-developers app

three west said:
mine did the same, as mentioned above I just re-installed TWRP with goomanager and everything is back to normal.
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Thanks - I'll give goomanager a try.

beekay201 said:
A bit off topic but, there was the need to have device at stock condition (everything stock) before running OTA process, but as of now and personal experience, twrp 2.4.1.0 can also run an OTA update straight from Android.
Sent from my Nexus 10 using xda app-developers app
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I assumed the same, but I got the same situation as OP, I'll try reinstalling TWRP using Nexus Root Toolkit, or does goomanager have a special functionality for those conditions?
Update: Used NRT to install TWRP in the advanced settings, worked beautifully.

The latest Google OTA's are not successfully installing unless you restore stock recovery fist and some are failing if you are rooted as well.
Best bet if you are running as rooted or custom recovery is to backup first, un-root, restore stock then sideload the OTA. This will save you lots of frustration and heartburn.
It's easy enough to restore stock and to re-root so just make it part of your ota routine.

[Q] Lost TWRP and root - Help needed

Hi.
I had my nexus 4 with 4.2.2 stock rom rooted with the Nexus Root toolkit from WUG. TWRP recovery also instaled.
Last night using this software, i flash the 0.84 radio in order to install the factory image of the new 4.3 android (downloaded from google developers site).
I also did that using the Wug software.
Now i already have the 4.3 android on my nexus, but lost root and also twrp recovery. I can´t get to recovery mode and since i'm not rooted anymore, can´t flash any zip, includind the SU from chain fire.
How can i get my recovery mode back and root the phone again??? The phone is unlocked!
thanks.

Use adb to flash SU. But I've heard SU is not working well with 4.3. Find the instructions below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2010312
tigas68 said:
Hi.
I had my nexus 4 with 4.2.2 stock rom rooted with the Nexus Root toolkit from WUG. TWRP recovery also instaled.
Last night using this software, i flash the 0.84 radio in order to install the factory image of the new 4.3 android (downloaded from google developers site).
I also did that using the Wug software.
Now i already have the 4.3 android on my nexus, but lost root and also twrp recovery. I can´t get to recovery mode and since i'm not rooted anymore, can´t flash any zip, includind the SU from chain fire.
How can i get my recovery mode back and root the phone again??? The phone is unlocked!
thanks.
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spicediablo said:
Use adb to flash SU. But I've heard SU is not working well with 4.3. Find the instructions below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2010312
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thanks. :good:

tigas68 said:
thanks. :good:
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Still isn't working...
When i tried to fastboot the recovery img the device turns off and never turns on again on is own!
Help please!
I like my root...!

here's the screens of waht happens.
This his what happens when i try to go into recovery mode...

first of all, dont ever use a toolkit.
1. turn phone off
2. plug the phone in via usb
3. hold volume down + power until a screen pops up.. you're in bootloader mode.
4. you better have adb / fastboot environment setup, if not then google and find out how to do it.
5. fastboot flash recovery <nameofrecovery>.img
6. volume down to recovery
7. flash superuser zip

I can confirm the SU work on 4.3 Stock ROM for TWRP I recommend to flash the CWM first and then replace with TWRP it will be easier.

zephiK said:
first of all, dont ever use a toolkit.
1. turn phone off
2. plug the phone in via usb
3. hold volume down + power until a screen pops up.. you're in bootloader mode.
4. you better have adb / fastboot environment setup, if not then google and find out how to do it.
5. fastboot flash recovery <nameofrecovery>.img
6. volume down to recovery
7. flash superuser zip
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zephiK,
Already done that! I flashed the CWM recovery throught fastboot. The device turned off. When i turn it on again and tried to go into recovery mode, so i can flash the SU from chain fire, but got the image on my post!
The phone is unlocked!

That mean you didn't flash the CWM to your phone ~ The image you showing is Official Recovery Mode Screen!

Johnsonyc said:
I can confirm the SU work on 4.3 Stock ROM for TWRP I recommend to flash the CWM first and then replace with TWRP it will be easier.
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I used the sctock rom downloaded from the google developers website!

Johnsonyc said:
That mean you didn't flash the CWM to your phone ~ The image you showing is Official Recovery Mode Screen!
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What he said. The recovery flash isn't going through.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 4 Beta

Why do people seem to think it's any different than with 4.2.2? It's the same bloody procedure!
Now, if you were ***** enough to use a toolkit and not learn how to use fastboot/adb yourself then that's your own fault but seriously there are guides everywhere on how to flash a custom recovery and it's the EASIEST thing in the world

spicediablo said:
Use adb to flash SU. But I've heard SU is not working well with 4.3. Find the instructions below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2010312
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Google fixed the vulnerability that was used to gain superuser rights in Android. Chainfire has a semi working version of SuperSU but from what I read only TWRP can flash it properly. On Koush's Google+ feed he says Chainfire had to do a real hack job to get superuser working, thus why it's not working well. He is not sure if he can even get his own open source superuser to work again and made no mention of fixing CWM Recovery to be able to flash SuperSU. As I no longer really need root for any thing I'll just wait and see what Koush can come up with.

kzoodroid said:
Google fixed the vulnerability that was used to gain superuser rights in Android. Chainfire has a semi working version of SuperSU but from what I read only TWRP can flash it properly. On Koush's Google+ feed he says Chainfire had to do a real hack job to get superuser working, thus why it's not working well. He is not sure if he can even get his own open source superuser to work again and made no mention of fixing CWM Recovery to be able to flash SuperSU. As I no longer really need root for any thing I'll just wait and see what Koush can come up with.
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I am flash my SuperSU from CWM it does work. I am working so hard to get off the ROOT ! But Root Explorer slap my face, I can't live without it.

kzoodroid said:
Google fixed the vulnerability that was used to gain superuser rights in Android. Chainfire has a semi working version of SuperSU but from what I read only TWRP can flash it properly. On Koush's Google+ feed he says Chainfire had to do a real hack job to get superuser working, thus why it's not working well. He is not sure if he can even get his own open source superuser to work again and made no mention of fixing CWM Recovery to be able to flash SuperSU. As I no longer really need root for any thing I'll just wait and see what Koush can come up with.
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Yeah, I've read the same. In the meantime I've really just learned to love stock Android for what it is. At least until one of the mad geniuses finds a 100% working fix.
Johnsonyc said:
I am flash my SuperSU from CWM it does work. I am working so hard to get off the ROOT ! But Root Explorer slap my face, I can't live without it.
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Agreed. The only main thing I need root for is to use Root Explorer. I can't believe after all the time I still use the hell out of that app. :laugh:

sn0warmy said:
Yeah, I've read the same. In the meantime I've really just learned to love stock Android for what it is. At least until one of the mad geniuses finds a 100% working fix.
Agreed. The only main thing I need root for is to use Root Explorer. I can't believe after all the time I still use the hell out of that app. :laugh:
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I don't even really use root explorer anymore just like having the ability to make nandroid backups. But after doing a clean install of 4.3 in fastboot and it only took 30 minutes from start to finish including app and data restores nandroids to me are not that useful anymore (I don't flash custom ROMs anymore). Google automatically re-installed all my apps as soon as I reconfigured my WIFI, they also restored my APN and my work WIFI settings but not Bluetooth. And I used Helium to restore the user app data and all my texts and helium doesn't need root access to work.
Here is the start of Koush's post on Google+ where he talks about superuser on 4.3.
I finally had a chance to dig into seeing why Superuser is broken on Android 4.3. https://android.googlesource.com/platform/dalvik/+/9907ca3cb8982063a846426ad3bdf3f90e3b87c2
Basically /system is mounted as nosuid to any zygote spawned process (ie, all Android apps). Root will still continue to work via adb shell, etc.
This is a pretty nasty change. It seems that SuperSU works around this by replacing install-recovery.sh to run a su daemon that pipes subsequent through it. Pretty hacky, but understandable why it was done this way.
Will need to look into how to do this in a less invasive fashion, if that is even possible. Of course, if building from source, this change can simply be reverted.

Here's a better explanation about superuser from Android Police.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...n-but-chainfires-supersu-works-and-heres-why/

Rooting for me is used for restoring my apps and stuffs using titanium backup. Another useful thing about rooting is the ability to check saved wifi passwords.

Just install twrp from fastboot and then flash the su zip file in twrp
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2

EddyOS said:
Why do people seem to think it's any different than with 4.2.2? It's the same bloody procedure!
Now, if you were ***** enough to use a toolkit and not learn how to use fastboot/adb yourself then that's your own fault but seriously there are guides everywhere on how to flash a custom recovery and it's the EASIEST thing in the world
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@EddyOS
Your answer is what forums are not about! Instead of helping you had an atitude of an ass...!
@ Everyone else
After 5 or 6 attemps, doing it by the book, the CWD worked and i now have a Recovery mode! I didn´t did anything different, so i couldn´t really understand what went wrong before... SU from chainfire works perfectly! It´s now Rooted! And yes, the tuturials are idiot proof!
There´s something that´s bothering my mind... I can´t unistall some trash that cames with the 4.3 version using titanium backup, because he can´t find the apk files...! I could do it with the 4.2.2 version, but not with this one. I'm using the deoxed version.
Does anyone has the same problems?

[Q] Nexus 4 root toolkit. Stuck on 'Pushing root files to your device...'

Hi!
It is not the first time I root phones but this time seems I cannot manage it.
I have updated and re-rooted my nexus in every ROM update with no problems. Today I received the OTA 4.4 update and did a re-root of my phone BEFORE applying the update (don't ask me why I did it before... I'm just dumb).
I used the Nexus root toolkit as other times (I once uploaded cyanogen in a ZTE Skate through CWM but found the root kit more straight for my nexus). Now I'm stuck in the 'Pushing root files to your device' stage and the program is 'not working'. I still have it plugged and don't know what to do. Since it was rooted before I hope it has CWM still there. Should I unplug it and repeat the process or do I have a brick now?
Any advices would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
(yes, I feel stupid)

Seems solved.
Since it was rooted and I didn't check the flash bootloader option only rebooting returned the phone to its previous state.

Next time...
Next time, flash temproraly (until next reboot) CWM or TWRP recovery And choose SuperSU-UPDATE zip. Its safe for OTA.

msihp said:
Next time, flash temproraly (until next reboot) CWM or TWRP recovery And choose SuperSU-UPDATE zip. Its safe for OTA.
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I see... always the hard way seems beetter. My thought was that if I updated superSU before the OTA I wouldn't have to re-root again but I see those kits doesn't always work.
The CWM still scaries me although I used it before. I guess I will have to deal with it.
Thanks for your advice

[Q] Lost Root after OTA update. How to properly re-root without messing the system?

Hello everyone,
I noticed that this is a common problem and I realize just not that I shouldn't have just updated without informing myself.
Anyway, I checked and the root seems to be gone (checked with Root Checker, although the SU app is still there [but not working]).
I checked the fastbook and it says 'unlocked', which is good, I don't have to lose data.
How do I re-root properly?
I am using OS X at the moment and I have access to adb but, if needed, I can access a Windows computer again and use Nexus Root Toolkit again (that's what I used the first time I rooted).
I have CWM-SuperSU-v0.98.zip and recovery-clockwork-6.0.1.9-manta.img.
I checked the bootloader and it says 'no command' but it still has:
- reboot system now
- apply update from ADB
- wipe data...
- wipe cache...
Thanks in advance for any help

First thing - Nearly always you will lose root after applying an OTA - at least lately so that's not really a big deal.
Second - Get and always use the Latest version of root zip from chainfire: http://download.chainfire.eu/370/SuperSU/UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.80.zip
Or you can also just apply SuperSU from google play and you will prompted to reboot to update binaries etc. after you apply the OTA.
His blog on latest version: https://plus.google.com/+Chainfire/posts/QhrEdeJ3nqQ

I got the same problem.
I solved it by just by downgrading and upgrading back to the latest version of Cyanogenmod.
lg Darcade

I have the same problem...
I have the same problem, I have installed the 4.4.3 OTA and now SuperSU stopped working.
Any advice?

Easily got my root back using Wugfresh toolkit.

Only the paid for version of SuperSU - "Pro" will attempt to keep root after an OTA update. It worked perfectly for me on a 5, 7 and 10.

[Lemmy] said:
I have the same problem, I have installed the 4.4.3 OTA and now SuperSU stopped working.
Any advice?
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Don`t use toolkits, just boot into TWRP in fastboot and reflash the latest superSU.zip and you`re rooted.

gee2012 said:
Don`t use toolkits, just boot into TWRP in fastboot and reflash the latest superSU.zip and you`re rooted.
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thats what I did by now, just with CWM instead of TWRP.

[Lemmy] said:
thats what I did by now, just with CWM instead of TWRP.
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Well done mate , toolkits suck and you have no control over them. Flashing with adb gives you full control and you learn something

gee2012 said:
Well done mate , toolkits suck and you have no control over them. Flashing with adb gives you full control and you learn something
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...after having to go through this over and over again with every single update I'm starting to think that having root is definitely not worth the pain.

If you switch to TWRP using its built in SuperSU install makes re-rooting a breeze.
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moto x pure 6.0 mm ( root )

Tried everything flashing every supersu via twrp and just gets stuck at the moto logo. Tried systemless root and did the same thing. So thinking it was my kernel and flashed elementalx moto kernel ( frankenclark ) then tried to flash supersu once again with the same fail and noticed with that kernel I lost my wifi connection but ran it anyways but failed. After much forum browsing and that supersu just isn't for the MXPE I even went as far as kingroot to achieve root then slap supersu to keep root like I did with my kindle fire. I'm pretty lost for words here. I'm previously running resurection remix and works flawless but I do really like the original setup. Ps tried the stock rooted roms and they was a lil off and kept trying to ota update but failed because my bootloader is unlocked so I had to uninstall it. Just looking to root the original rom so I can keep all the moto apps. Looking forward to hearing the ideas. Thanks in advance.

Wow... So I assume you flashed back to pure stock?
Rooting is not difficult, there is only 2 ways to do it, either flash SuperSU 2.62-3 beta or the latest stable version with the "echo" command for systemless installations. Look at this thread (note the pictures in the OP are of my XT1575, I fudged a little) but the method is identical. If it doesn't work, no offense, but your not doing something right.

I have both pure stock in a restore and resurection remix in a restore which is pretty much my daily because the active display drives me nuts. And supersu 2.6.2 I haven't tried yet but the SR supersu I've flashed via twrp with the stock kernel and ( frankenclark ) kernel and it responded the same stuck at moto. I've flashed it via windroid toolkit also it shows it's installing without any failure but on boot up she says no way. And I've updated the toolkit to it's newest version and still ends up stuck at moto. I'm sure I'll figure it out and get it. And no offense on doing something wrong it's been known to happen. Some lg double tap to wake the screen would be nice over the active display.

fastjohnson said:
I have both pure stock in a restore and resurection remix in a restore which is pretty much my daily because the active display drives me nuts. And supersu 2.6.2 I haven't tried yet but the SR supersu I've flashed via twrp with the stock kernel and ( frankenclark ) kernel and it responded the same stuck at moto. I've flashed it via windroid toolkit also it shows it's installing without any failure but on boot up she says no way. And I've updated the toolkit to it's newest version and still ends up stuck at moto. I'm sure I'll figure it out and get it. And no offense on doing something wrong it's been known to happen. Some lg double tap to wake the screen would be nice over the active display.
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It sounds like the install script for SuperSU is not doing a systemless install...
So you are flashing stock, booting at least once (this is required), the open TWRP and allow changes to system (In mounts make sure Mount System Read-Only is NOT checked), go to Advanced - Terminal and enter "echo SYSTEMLESS=true>>/data/.supersu" and press enter, then go to Install and select the SuperSU zip file and install it. It should clearly say it is doing a system-less install, patching boot image, etc. as shown in the first post of the link I shared a couple posts previous.

OK I tried this info word for word and tried multiple times and its still gets stuck on the moto logo, I don't get it.

I don't know... it's a puzzler.

2.62-3 and stop using toolkits.

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2.62-3 and stop using toolkits.
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I'm using twrp to obtain the root like specified. But I'll try adb commands and see if the version you mentioned will do it. I appreciate the help.

fastjohnson said:
I'm using twrp to obtain the root like specified. But I'll try adb commands and see if the version you mentioned will do it. I appreciate the help.
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Well that worked perfectly the first try I used those terminal commands with that version SuperSU it rooted and booted right up like normal and started asking the SuperSU adb shell permission banners. Perfect guys maybe this thread will help some other poor soul to get root. Awesome advice that works. Thank you.

fastjohnson said:
Well that worked perfectly the first try I used those terminal commands with that version SuperSU it rooted and booted right up like normal and started asking the SuperSU adb shell permission banners. Perfect guys maybe this thread will help some other poor soul to get root. Awesome advice that works. Thank you.
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Yeah, glad it's working... Did you read through the link I posted earlier? The 2.62-3 method was clearly described in the second post under Alternative Methods.

acejavelin said:
Yeah, glad it's working... Did you read through the link I posted earlier? The 2.62-3 method was clearly described in the second post under Alternative Methods.
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No actually I didn't see it, lol probably would have helped made me not look dumb. Buy who am I kidding you guys love flexing you rooting muscles..

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