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Purchasing for T Mobile users: The Breakdown

Thinking about purchasing the nexus one? Here is a breakdown for all T Mobile customers of what's required.
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If you have a family plan, shared plan, flexpay plan or corporate account you will need to change before going to purchase the nexus one from the link above. Once all the above items are removed/changed then you are good to go and can enjoy the upgraded discount.
Quote from Nexus site "You can choose to purchase the Nexus One from the Google Phone Webstore without service for $529 USD, or with a qualifying T-Mobile US service plan at a discounted price:
Nexus One without service: $529
Nexus One with new, 2-year T-Mobile US service plan for new customers: $179
Nexus One with new, 2-year T-Mobile US service plan for qualifying existing T-Mobile customers who are adding data plans: $279
Nexus One with new, 2-year T-Mobile US service plan for qualifying existing T-Mobile customers who are upgrading their data plans: $379"
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I only paid 179.99 but that's because i opened a new line of service and got a new number. Be aware that if you open a new line of service to get the 179.99 price you CANNOT cancel your other line of service early or you will have to pay a 200.00 fee for early termination. The only option you have is to switch it to a home phone plan. If you decide to go that route as I did then it is 10.00 a month. It uses your sim card and a router that you get from T Mobile for 40.00. You must have a high speed connection to use this option.

I'm hoping you accidentally hit submit before finishing your post, cuz it doesn't make much sense to me.
I have been off contract since January 2009. How do I get the $179 price?
Edit: Just saw your post in the other thread. I think what you're saying confirms what the T-mo rep told me earlier today. She said that if I switched from my old grandfathered plan to the Even More 500 plan, then I'd be eligible for the $179 price. Not that I'm going to do it... it's cheaper for me to stick to my current plan and buying the phone unlocked.

uansari1 said:
I'm hoping you accidentally hit submit before finishing your post, cuz it doesn't make much sense to me.
I have been off contract since January 2009. How do I get the $179 price?
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Someone in another forum had the same issue and apparently he had to add another line. Once his N1 comes in he plans on canceling his old line and switching his number over to the new line. I can try to find that post if need be.?

rantrav said:
Someone in another forum had the same issue and apparently he had to add another line. Once his N1 comes in he plans on canceling his old line and switching his number over to the new line. I can try to find that post if need be.?
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That's not necessary, but thanks. I'd only buy the phone unlocked, because it will considerably cheaper than switching plans and being in a contract again. I'm really just curious because it doesn't seem right that if we're off contract with T-mo, we couldn't take advantage of the subsidized price of the phone. Theoretically we're paying higher plan prices every month because our original phones were subsidized. So if we're off contract, then we should have paid T-mo back for that subsidy and they should either discount our monthly rate (like the Even More Plus plans), or subsidize a new phone for us.

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That's not necessary, but thanks. I'd only buy the phone unlocked, because it will considerably cheaper than switching plans and being in a contract again. I'm really just curious because it doesn't seem right that if we're off contract with T-mo, we couldn't take advantage of the subsidized price of the phone. Theoretically we're paying higher plan prices every month because our original phones were subsidized. So if we're off contract, then we should have paid T-mo back for that subsidy and they should either discount our monthly rate (like the Even More Plus plans), or subsidize a new phone for us.
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Sorry, people on here seem to like 'hard evidence' that is only text from another person. I am sure that this has been the plan since the beginning. Google, obviously having the upper hand and being in control, is calling the shots on how this works. T-Mobile, being an underdog, was probably given first dibs with this being part of the deal. But, I do agree with you. I bought it unlocked and would have rather saved the money and updated my phone with current plan. The guys post was something about he had a "grandfathered" in plan and was eligible through TMO for the update but with it being through Google he wasn't able to.... I guess all we can say is 'okay' and mush on.

I would have bought the unlocked version as well but I'm already paying the same amount as the plan that is required so took the discount and ran. I'm sure eventually there will be more plans available. Google is sure to take a lot of heat for it and will eventually crack...well I hope anyways lol.

Both of you should take a look at the discussion here:
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google+Mobile/thread?tid=3c0fd3870ec370a8&hl=en#all
It doesn't look good for people who are existing customers, off contract and want to sign a new contract. Kinda ****ty if you ask me, but fortunately it won't affect me.

For people interested in the tmo family plans, here is some math.
Getting 2 subsidized phones over a two-year period breaks down to an extra $15 a month ([$180 x2]/24). 2 unlocked phones is $44 a month ([$530 x2]/24).
Looking at text and web family plans with no annual contracts, its $109.99 for 750mins, $119.99 for 1500mins and $139.99 for unlimited. This gives you freedom of picking your plans or switching to another carrier that supports this phone.
Knowing that if you get the subsidized version, you will be paying $160 a month plus the breakdown of $15 a month (spreading out what you pay up front for the devices) it comes to $175 a month.
With the unlocked device price breakdown at $44 a month, you can see you will save money if you buy the unlocked phone and use either the 750min or 1500min family plans as they will cost you $154 and $164 respectively.
This is a two year savings of $504 and $264!

uansari1 said:
Both of you should take a look at the discussion here:
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google+Mobile/thread?tid=3c0fd3870ec370a8&hl=en#all
It doesn't look good for people who are existing customers, off contract and want to sign a new contract. Kinda ****ty if you ask me, but fortunately it won't affect me.
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I love the first post that clearly states "only new T-mobile customers are eligible to purchase Nexus One at the discounted price of $179." If thats true then why did I get one for 179.99, I've been with them for 7 years! lol

uansari1 said:
Both of you should take a look at the discussion here:
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google+Mobile/thread?tid=3c0fd3870ec370a8&hl=en#all
It doesn't look good for people who are existing customers, off contract and want to sign a new contract. Kinda ****ty if you ask me, but fortunately it won't affect me.
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I have a family plan with 4 lines so I had to break down and pay full price.... same when the G1 came out. Only reason is because i feel like this phone I will keep for some time. I hope. Google, I think, will be getting a lot of heat about this. I took a look at the link and there are A LOT of pissed off people on there. But GOOG does have the money to blow.

This is interesting guys
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google+Mobile/thread?tid=06a361e72a26b798&hl=en

ryanmo5 said:
i would have bought the unlocked version as well but i'm already paying the same amount as the plan that is required so took the discount and ran. I'm sure eventually there will be more plans available. Google is sure to take a lot of heat for it and will eventually crack...well i hope anyways lol.
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theyre all unlocked

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theyre all unlocked
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Oops lmao, I meant without service

I actually bought the unlocked phone for $530,-. I have another 6 months on my contract.
But this way, I'll be contract free, and am actually SAVING money now, because I had a G1 with Myfav600, which was $80,- a month.
And I never even come close to using my 600 minutes.
So the 500 plus plan is perfect for me. And I save $20,- a month.
And , when they get the Voip thing happening, I can use that as well, since I have a Google Voice number.

i'm a current T-mob customer with 9 mo left on my 2 yr contract i got with my G1, once i get some extra cash saved up i plan to pay the full price for the nexus one because for me at least i currently spend $53 a month on my service with t-mob and don't care or benefit to change it and if i could extend my contract and pay less for the phone by some amount it will still save me more in the long run by not having to pay for the dumb 80 dollar a month plan they force you to have by going that route
this is of course as long as they do not change their tune on how they are handling this before i'm ready to purchase the phone i.e. give me a discount of some amount to upgrade and keep my current plan or one very close to it

Im currently on the even more plus 500+unlimited text+Web
On flex pay. Iam so lucky i didnt sign a 2 year contract!
I just hope tmobile doesnt try to make me pay 80 if i buy the phone without a plan. Just going to pop in my sim from G1

I've posted this in a couple other threads but it should help here.
I'll tell everyone up front I worked for T-Mobile customer care for the last 4 years up until this past June and was a supervisor for the last year of my time there.
If you currently have a single line plan that is out of contract is qualifies through T-Mobile for the full discount but Google is giving you the price that is almost $400 here is what you can do it get around it. And change to the Even More plans prior WILL NOT fix this issue.
Alot of people are getting bad information from TMobile about what needs to be done because the reps were given almost no information about the ordering process. So most reps and just going with the flow to try and get people off the phone.
When you go to order the phone with Google select the option to add a new line to your account. It will give you the 179.99 price for adding the new line. Once the new phone comes in the mail call T-Mobile and cancel your old line and ask them to put a "request old number back" request to replace the new number with your old one. This takes about 24 hours to go through. During that 24 hours your old number will not work because you have to cancel it before you do this.
I know for a fact this will work but the rep you talk to may give you crap about doing this and not let you because they want to be a ****. If you're worried about that call and cancel you old line when you get the phone then call back and talk to another rep and tell them to put in the request for you.

Don't you have to pay the 200 dollar ETF if you cancel a line?

There's no ETF if the line has no contract. So if you add a new line to get the discount you can cancel the old one without a fee

Ah I missed that part. I am trying to get the 180 price and I only have a few months left on my contract and they won't upgrade it. They will let me add a new line of service though.

HTC Aria available for free from Dell

Of course, I found out about this about 3 hours after buying my Aria in an actual AT&T store...
There is also no activation charge, and even is available for existing/upgrading AT&T users.
I can't post external links (new user), but it's on the front page of mobility.dell.com

engunneer said:
Of course, I found out about this about 3 hours after buying my Aria in an actual AT&T store...
There is also no activation charge, and even is available for existing/upgrading AT&T users.
I can't post external links (new user), but it's on the front page of mobility.dell.com
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if you are doing a contract extension (and not a plan upgrade) it is 79.99, still a lot better than 130

dang bought mine yesterday at at&t store as well. Oh well at least i got them to give me a free car charger lol.

It's also free with new activation or contract extensions through both NewEgg and Tiger Direct.

Also wirefly. Newegg and wirefly appear to be running the same sales engine.

$.01 for new line or $50.01 for an upgrade from amazon

ryan92084 said:
$.01 for new line or $50.01 for an upgrade from amazon
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Seems like you don't get the option to keep your existing plan features though. I just tried and there isn't an option to keep my $30/month unlimited data plan.

But .... what do we think of it ?

My free Aria is winging its way to me as we speak!
I was on the cusp of going with either the iPhone 3GS or the Aria. The unexpected freeness of the latter, coupled with the solid reviews it's getting, and the (IMO) relatively easy method of bypassing AT&T's third-party-app limitations, made it a no-brainer.

Free Arias
When I checked into the free phones, I found out that they don't have the lower-end calling plans (450 minutes) and you can't keep your old unlimited data plan -- so that free phone will cost you a lot more in just a few months.

Just called wirefly and dell and the aria is only free for the primary line on family plans =( to upgrade the addon line it's either $70 or $80. Called amazon and they said it was still $50.

It looks to me like wirefly will give two free phones as long as the primary line is one of the upgrades, but I guess I'll call them now to be sure. I did notice that if you are upgrading a line that isn't primary on the family plan they say to call.

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ryan92084 said:
if you are doing a contract extension (and not a plan upgrade) it is 79.99, still a lot better than 130
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I did a contract extension, and got it for free.

dochood said:
I did a contract extension, and got it for free.
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But, yeah, mine was the primary line. I could have gotten it through AT&T for $29, because of some kind of "Upgrade Advantage" thingy. I hadn't upgraded in about 3 1/2 years... maybe that was why.

450 minute option is available on Dell
I was able to order from Dell with a 450 minute plan. The offer defaults to a higher minute plan but the option exists to reduce the minutes. Also beware that many of optional features (text plans, insurance, AT&T Navigation) are preselected for purchase. You can decline these before ordering with the exception of a data plan.

dochood said:
But, yeah, mine was the primary line. I could have gotten it through AT&T for $29, because of some kind of "Upgrade Advantage" thingy. I hadn't upgraded in about 3 1/2 years... maybe that was why.
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How did you manage that? Did you just go through the website or something?
I haven't upgraded since 2007 and mine shows up as 129.99. It also says I can't keep my grandfathered unlimited data plan and I'd have to downgrade to their 2gb plan.
Speaking of that, has anyone successfully bought an Aria and managed to keep their unlimited plan?

Problem is this phone really should be free from AT&T on contract. With the new ETF it takes 8 months on contract unitl the ETF+ the cost of the contract phone would be less than buying the phone non-contract. Compare that to the iPhone it is already $85 cheaper than the non-contract price right off the bat if you add the cost on-contract + ETF.
Granted this only really matters if you break a contract but the ETF is to help recoup the cost of the subsidized handset if you break it. In this case if it happens within the first 8 months they make more money off you than having bought the phone.
Bottom line is they have this handset overpriced. It is bad enough if you go to a corp store it is more money upfront than an iPhone .

ryan92084 said:
if you are doing a contract extension (and not a plan upgrade) it is 79.99, still a lot better than 130
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If you upgrade your plan to 900 minutes it's still free. I'll just give them a call and downgrade my minutes.

Is it possible to switch your secondary line to the primary line for the upgrade? My primary line isn't due till next year but my secondary is due for an upgrade. Like someone said before through wirefly and stuff the secondary line has to pay for the upgrade.

modest_mandroid said:
How did you manage that? Did you just go through the website or something?
I haven't upgraded since 2007 and mine shows up as 129.99. It also says I can't keep my grandfathered unlimited data plan and I'd have to downgrade to their 2gb plan.
Speaking of that, has anyone successfully bought an Aria and managed to keep their unlimited plan?
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Beats me... it showed up on my AT&T site for $29, but I got it from Dell for free. And I downgraded my plan and my son's plan to $15 a month, since the most either of us have ever used was 85 MB in a single mont.

T-Mo people, teach me about your pricing structure.

Went in to a T-Mobile store yesterday to see if they had any S3's, and while looking at the display model, it said it was $279, or $229 if on the value plan. What is the value plan, and whats different between it and the standard family plan? Also, you MUST take the 5GB data plan? They had 2 employees working and about 5 people in line, so after ab out 10 minutes I left, questions unanswered.

The price is to make up the fact that you could save more with them. A value plan is when you start out a contract with a phone that you either have or bought full price. At the end, you end up saving even more than classic. You could find better deals at Wally world or Costco and they won't even make you upgrade your plan
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So if Im walking in as a new customer, I would have to pay the $279?

I just signed up for T-mobile this week coming from sprint. Got the S3 with the value plan. I paid about $270 in the store and walked out with the phone. With the value plan, you end up paying FULL price for the phone but they basically give it to you on credit and interest free. They add an extra 20 a month to your bill for 22 months, however you can pay off the phone early. Once the phone is paid off, I am looking at about 83 bucks a month with insurance for Unlimited with 5GB data with hotspot.
All of the numbers I just gave your are ballpark (except for the extra 20) becasue I don't remember the exact numbers.
In the long run, your monthly bill will be cheaper. The classic play with 5gb is about 94 bucks a month before taxes and fees.
At least this is how I understand things. If I am wrong, someone else please chime in.
I hope this helps a bit.

To add to durhamite's response, the extra $20 is per phone on the Value plan. This is easier to explain with examples. I'll assume two lines on an unlimited voice/text/2GB high-speed data plan.
Classic price for phones: $279 (after MIR)*2=$558
Classic MRC = $139.98
Value price for phones: $229*2= $458
Monthly EIP payments (for 20 months): $20*2=40
Value MRC: $99.98
I left out activation fees and any other fees that would be the same, regardless of plan. To summarize, with the Value plan, you pay $200 less today ($100 would come back via MIR if you chose Classic), the same amount for the next 20 months, and $40 less for the last four months of your contract. Keep in mind that both plans have an ETF and if you cancel a Value plan early, the remaining balance on the phones is due immediately.
The other advantage is that with the Value plan, you wouldn't have to have the data plan on your phones. However, I'm unsure if that is from the beginning, or only after you have finished your EIP installments.

So basically on the Value Plan, TMO is giving you an interest free (0% APR) loan on your phone (EIP payments = $20 x 20 months). Assuming that your credit is good enough to qualify for this plan.
I've ran the numbers between Classic vs Value plans. Value is always cheaper, you'll save between $100-$200, after 24 months contract, depending on which plans you choose.

Should of went to Walmart, only 198 for the phone.
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cashyftw said:
Should of went to Walmart, only 198 for the phone.
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While it's true that you're saving upfront cost of the phone $198 vs $229 from Walmart vs TMOBile, once you add up all the 24 months contract the Value plan is still cheaper. AFAIK, you can only get Value Plan from Retail TMO stores.

durhamite said:
I just signed up for T-mobile this week coming from sprint. Got the S3 with the value plan. I paid about $270 in the store and walked out with the phone. With the value plan, you end up paying FULL price for the phone but they basically give it to you on credit and interest free. They add an extra 20 a month to your bill for 22 months, however you can pay off the phone early. Once the phone is paid off, I am looking at about 83 bucks a month with insurance for Unlimited with 5GB data with hotspot.
All of the numbers I just gave your are ballpark (except for the extra 20) becasue I don't remember the exact numbers.
In the long run, your monthly bill will be cheaper. The classic play with 5gb is about 94 bucks a month before taxes and fees.
At least this is how I understand things. If I am wrong, someone else please chime in.
I hope this helps a bit.
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WELCOME TO TMO BRO! Ive been with them for a decade, and in that time Ive also had second lines with Sprint, and verizon. Tmo is AMAZING!! They will take good care uf you whenever theres a problem, they have gone SOOO far above and beyond anything any other carrier will do for me.
Also, make sure you bookmark tmonews.com, , its ran by blogger David Beren and its a branch of phonedog. Youll find all the latest leaks of phones, and sales. If you watch the sales, you can call and make changes to your plan that cxan really save you big money and lock you into great prices and features. Sorry, Im a huge TMO Fan, and Im always trying to bring ppl over, lol. Theres a guy at my local Tmo store who tells me I make him About $500 a year in commisions, just telling ppl about the service and handing them his card, lmao. But in return he called me the day before launch and had a GS3 tucked off to the side to sell me a day early!

androholic said:
WELCOME TO TMO BRO! Ive been with them for a decade, and in that time Ive also had second lines with Sprint, and verizon. Tmo is AMAZING!! They will take good care uf you whenever theres a problem, they have gone SOOO far above and beyond anything any other carrier will do for me.
Also, make sure you bookmark tmonews.com, , its ran by blogger David Beren and its a branch of phonedog. Youll find all the latest leaks of phones, and sales. If you watch the sales, you can call and make changes to your plan that cxan really save you big money and lock you into great prices and features. Sorry, Im a huge TMO Fan, and Im always trying to bring ppl over, lol. Theres a guy at my local Tmo store who tells me I make him About $500 a year, just telling ppl about the service and handing them his card, lmao.
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This must be a joke. Their CS is terrible now. They have no interest in getting me a phone and keeping my business. Tell them you're cancelling and they don't care!

jdpdata said:
While it's true that you're saving upfront cost of the phone $198 vs $229 from Walmart vs TMOBile, once you add up all the 24 months contract the Value plan is still cheaper. AFAIK, you can only get Value Plan from Retail TMO stores.
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wrong you can get the value plan w/ the s3 at costco for 390 without monthly installments. now that is a deal.
My plan:
unlimited minutes for two lines: 69.99
unlimited text for all lines: 9.99
two additional lines: 4.99 x 2 = 9.98
two lines w/ 200mb data: 4.99 x2 = 9.98
Total bill: 99.94$ - 15% employee discount = 84.95$ monthly pre taxes for four lines.
This same plan on classic would run you.... 99.99 for unlimited talk/text plus 19.99 for two add a line plus 40$ (minimum) for required data. After the discount it would be 137$ monthly.
This itself is a 52$ savings per month over 2 years. Which is 1248$ total in savings.
Provided you have to buy your phones separately it is still a good deal. My family all has smart phones of our individual choice, some that are not available on T-mobile.

I'm thinking about going to Tmobile also as sprint still doesnt have LTE. So if I get the value plan of $64.99 (500talk+text+5gb data) then I can go to costco and get the s3 for $350 correct?

aznmode said:
I'm thinking about going to Tmobile also as sprint still doesnt have LTE. So if I get the value plan of $64.99 (500talk+text+5gb data) then I can go to costco and get the s3 for $350 correct?
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390* but this is only an in store promotion so IDK if you can get in on the deal depending on where your at.
Also 5gb data is kind of a waste, I would sign up for the 2gb data unlimited for 10$ and edit the apn to keep getting unlimited data without throttling. But that's just me....
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390* but this is only an in store promotion so IDK if you can get in on the deal depending on where your at.
Also 5gb data is kind of a waste, I would sign up for the 2gb data unlimited for 10$ and edit the apn to keep getting unlimited data without throttling. But that's just me....
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Does it work really?
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Great, now my head hurts!
TMobile executive meeting; "How can we make cell phones as confusing as buying a car?" Just think, leasing a phone is just around the corner.

tspx23 said:
390* but this is only an in store promotion so IDK if you can get in on the deal depending on where your at.
Also 5gb data is kind of a waste, I would sign up for the 2gb data unlimited for 10$ and edit the apn to keep getting unlimited data without throttling. But that's just me....
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Didn't know you can do that. Sometimes I use my phone to tether my tablet when my home internet is down and have used 6gb. That's why I figure I'd sign up for the 5 gb plan.
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gedster314 said:
Great, now my head hurts!
TMobile executive meeting; "How can we make cell phones as confusing as buying a car?" Just think, leasing a phone is just around the corner.
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I'm pretty sure they will specially with the phones coming out now days and as fast as they come out
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Just as a note for those thinking about it... if you live in the area east of dallas, tx, tmobile service is the worst out of the four carriers. Bar none. Sprint beats them, Verizon and AT&T beat them without any effort at all.

Diviance said:
Just as a note for those thinking about it... if you live in the area east of dallas, tx, tmobile service is the worst out of the four carriers. Bar none. Sprint beats them, Verizon and AT&T beat them without any effort at all.
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Cool info man, I definitely like sprint services since they have free roaming and good coverage but my area on 3G completely sucks, but when I go on road trips I'm pretty sure I'll find some bad spots for tmobile as well
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tony yayo said:
This must be a joke. Their CS is terrible now. They have no interest in getting me a phone and keeping my business. Tell them you're cancelling and they don't care!
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Not a joke at all bud, if your making threats like "I'm leaving" when you call in, that may be the reason why? I've been a small business owner, and if someone has an issue, being polite could take them a long way with me. Not to say you haven't been, but I know a lot of ppl expect to just get what they want out of a business by yelling, especially when it's an over the phone situation, and not in person.
Tmo has done things that have just blown me away to keep my services. I'm positive that not everyone has had all great experiences with them, but honestly, in 10yrs they've always gone out of their way for me, while other carriers have barely ever ever been personable!

Good News - New ATT Mobile Data Share plan

Good News - ATT is offering a new mobile data share plan w/unlimited Talk & Text. More data for less, new data share plan included 10GB of data
http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/data-plans.html?gnLinkId=t2015#fbid=QH4FNKQoqUv

Just signed up for the 10gb plan. Was on 6gb now I get an additional 4gb for only 10.00 Att is headed in the right direction. Maybe unlimited like t-crap mobile one day ?
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chadrick.7 said:
Just signed up for the 10gb plan. Was on 6gb now I get an additional 4gb for only 10.00 Att is headed in the right direction. Maybe unlimited like t-crap mobile one day ?
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I was on the 6gb before also, now i got 10gb i am a happy att customer now...TMobile is keeping all the other carriers on their toes...I love it. Plus i get 22% off my bill through my employer att discount #winning

iamolu said:
I was on the 6gb before also, now i got 10gb i am a happy att customer now...TMobile is keeping all the other carriers on their toes...I love it
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I agree. Things are getting better now. Hopefully it will even get better in the future.
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iamolu said:
Good News - ATT is offering a new mobile data share plan w/unlimited Talk & Text. More data for less, new data share plan included 10GB of data
http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/data-plans.html?gnLinkId=t2015#fbid=QH4FNKQoqUv
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This change cut $80 off of my bill overnight!! I was on the original 10gb share plan with 4 smartphones. Now my data plan has dropped $20 from $120 to $100 and I'm saving $15 on each device fee. :thumbup::thumbup::sly:
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I think I got duped. I called up and she claimed that I can convert my 4 contract phones over to this plan however that there is only the 40 dollar rate for each line, and I'll actually see 15 bucks per line on the bill. The change is effective on 2/4/2014 which is when my billing cycle changes... I guess I'll check back at the end of the month and have a long discussion with AT&T about it.

That is great news, any saving is good savings

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I think I got duped. I called up and she claimed that I can convert my 4 contract phones over to this plan however that there is only the 40 dollar rate for each line, and I'll actually see 15 bucks per line on the bill. The change is effective on 2/4/2014 which is when my billing cycle changes... I guess I'll check back at the end of the month and have a long discussion with AT&T about it.
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You can change it yourself. Just login to you att.com acct

what's the catch? there is always a catch, I don't trust att no more
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Saved me $77 a month!

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what's the catch? there is always a catch, I don't trust att no more
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It's pretty much a modification of the Family Share Value plan introduced not that long ago. The biggest pricing discrepancy between T-Mobile and AT&T was that AT&T charged the same monthly fee per device whether you bought it outright, got it with Next, or brought your own. With the introduction of the recent Family Share Value plan people who got their phones as described above were given a $15 a month discount on the monthly service fee per non-subsidized device. My two went from $40 to $25 per month. With the new plan announced today, if you're not using a subsidized phone, the $25 per month drops to $15. It starts at 10GB so it's really targeted at families/groups and large data users. My 6GB plan with two non-subsidized devices ($25 a month each) was $116. With the new 10GB plan it's $109 because while the data component went up a bit each device dropped $10 ( $15 a month).
So it's a great deal if you aren't using a subsidized device, have a lot of (non-subsidized) lines on your account, or are a big data user. It's pretty meaningless to those with subsidized phones. But it's meant to be a T-Mobile deterrant and you can't get subsidized phones from them directly anymore anyway. You can but only through resellers along with 2-year contracts and different rate plans that are pretty comparable to AT&T subsidized rates.

I was also on the 6GB plan (2 lines). Upgraded to this and now have 10GB for $15 less. Winning!

Can anyone who had a contract tell me exactly what is listed for the specific phone charge? I have attached how it shows up on mine and am a bit worried even though I am told that the 15 dollars will apply to each of my 4 lines
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Can anyone who had a contract tell me exactly what is listed for the specific phone charge? I have attached how it shows up on mine and am a bit worried even though I am told that the 15 dollars will apply to each of my 4 lines
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You're not on a Mobile Share plan and I can't tell if the devices on your account are subsidized or not. The per device monthly discount only applies to non-subsidized devices (finished 2-year contract, purchased outright, Next, or bring your own). To get any of the discounts we're talking about you'd need to move to a Mobile Share plan and if you have devices on your account that are subsidized the monthly charge you pay for them won't decrease. With the new 10GB plan non-subsidized devices drop from as high as $40 to $15 per month.

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You're not on a Mobile Share plan and I can't tell if the devices on your account are subsidized or not. The per device monthly discount only applies to non-subsidized devices (finished 2-year contract, purchased outright, Next, or bring your own). To get any of the discounts we're talking about you'd need to move to a Mobile Share plan and if you have devices on your account that are subsidized the monthly charge you pay for them won't decrease. With the new 10GB plan non-subsidized devices drop from as high as $40 to $15 per month.
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See that's the problem there. I was told by the REP that even though I am on contracts the 15 dollar will apply. Its like I am getting an exemption. I will call them back
Also "The most surprising part of today's announcement is that current customers with on-contract phones can switch to the new pricing structure. Starting tomorrow, you can simply call up AT&T and ask to switch to a Mobile Share Value plan with 10GB or more of data, and you'll drop from paying $40 per smartphone down to just $15" the following was reported via the verge at http://www.theverge.com/2014/2/1/5368768/att-discounts-large-mobile-share-value-plans paragraph 6.
She actually set the plan up to take effect on 2/4/2014 which coincides with the start of my billing cycle.
I will call them back and cancel the changes. I would be going from paying 199 minus discounts to 235 minus discounts and that makes no sense for me.

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See that's the problem there. I was told by the REP that even though I am on contracts the 15 dollar will apply. Its like I am getting an exemption. I will call them back
Also "The most surprising part of today's announcement is that current customers with on-contract phones can switch to the new pricing structure. Starting tomorrow, you can simply call up AT&T and ask to switch to a Mobile Share Value plan with 10GB or more of data, and you'll drop from paying $40 per smartphone down to just $15" the following was reported via the verge at http://www.theverge.com/2014/2/1/5368768/att-discounts-large-mobile-share-value-plans paragraph 6.
She actually set the plan up to take effect on 2/4/2014 which coincides with the start of my billing cycle.
I will call them back and cancel the changes. I would be going from paying 199 minus discounts to 235 minus discounts and that makes no sense for me.
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This is from the new program's conditions. Anyone with subsidized phones can't also be on a "no annual service contract" agreement. Installment agreement refers to Next. Who knows, maybe the CSR you talked to is giving you some additional discounts or exceptions. It's pretty much the Wild Wild West over at AT&T lately in their effort to keep customers from T-Mobile.
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This is from the new program's conditions. Anyone with subsidized phones can't also be on a "no annual service contract" agreement. Installment agreement refers to Next. Who knows, maybe the CSR you talked to is giving you some additional discounts or exceptions. It's pretty much the Wild Wild West over at AT&T lately in their effort to keep customers from T-Mobile.
Pricing for Value plan w/ 10 GB data ($100/mo.) plus per smartphone pricing ($15/mo.) on no annual service contract or on an installment agmt.​
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Anyway thanks for the information. I just got back off the phone with ATT rep along with a online chat and I was informed that I will get charged the 40 dollar a month for the 3 lines and will receive a 25 dollar credit for each line. OF course I would only see that credit on my Next Bill and following bills. I will have to hope the reps I spoke to are correct, if not I'll be calling them back when my next bill shows up.
Here's to crossing my fingers.

While this is great and all but I would rather keep unlimited data on 3 lines family plan with unlimited text messaging and 500 mins with roll over for $160 a month. Until they take away the unlimited that is. Hopefully not anytime soon.
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With the monthly device fee down to $15, Next finally makes sense. It's now cheaper (as long as you want/need 10GB of data) than buying the phone subsidized. And that's not even taking in to account the "new device after 12 months" benefit of Next. Here's how the numbers work out based on current AT&T prices.

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With the monthly device fee down to $15, Next finally makes sense. It's now cheaper (as long as you want/need 10GB of data) than buying the phone subsidized. And that's not even taking in to account the "new device after 12 months" benefit of Next. Here's how the numbers work out based on current AT&T prices.
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Maybe I'm missing something, but I'm on the 10GB Mobile Share Plan and while all my devices are subsidized, the cost per smartphone is just $30.
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PSA - Verizon Wireless Black Friday deal of 50% off the Pixel 2 will cost you more

If you're like me, you've been waiting to buy the Pixel 2 to see if the price drops. VZW has been offering to give folks 50% off if they trade in CERTAIN devices (mostly ones that are less than a year old).
For Black Friday, VZW is again offering 50% off WITHOUT a trade-in.... BUT, you must switch to their unlimited plan. For those that are already on the unlimited plan, this is a good deal.
But the idea is that VZW is trying to get folks that are not unlimited to move to their unlimited plan.
In my situation, I share 3 GB/month with my wife (got a bonus 1 GB, so really 4GB) for $45/month. I then pay $20/month per line for a total of $85/month (2 lines). we have never gone over 4 GB, so there is no advantage for us to go unlimited.
If we go to the unlimited plan, we would have to pay $65/month per line for a total of $130/month.
The Pixel 2 50% off is spread out over 24 months in bill credits after I pay the full retail price up front. In doing so, VZW will credit me $13.50/month. And in order to keep receiving the credits, you have to remain on the unlimited plan for the duration.
So in essence, I'd be paying $45/month EXTRA just to save $13.5.
Over the span of 24-months, I would have paid $1080 in fees, netting $325 from the "promo", thus paying an extra $755.
Conversely, I can just buy the Pixel 2 outright for $650. My understanding is that Black Friday is supposed to give discounts, not ways for folks to pay more than retail.
Even if they offered the Pixel 2 for free, then I would still say now as I would be out $430 just to get unlimited data that I don't use.
understood that everyone's situation is different, but hoping that this will give folks some pause before considering buying from VZW. and I normally have no issues with VZW, but now I do.

jco23 said:
If you're like me, you've been waiting to buy the Pixel 2 to see if the price drops. VZW has been offering to give folks 50% off if they trade in CERTAIN devices (mostly ones that are less than a year old).
For Black Friday, VZW is again offering 50% off WITHOUT a trade-in.... BUT, you must switch to their unlimited plan. For those that are already on the unlimited plan, this is a good deal.
But the idea is that VZW is trying to get folks that are not unlimited to move to their unlimited plan.
In my situation, I share 3 GB/month with my wife (got a bonus 1 GB, so really 4GB) for $45/month. I then pay $20/month per line for a total of $85/month (2 lines). we have never gone over 4 GB, so there is no advantage for us to go unlimited.
If we go to the unlimited plan, we would have to pay $65/month per line for a total of $130/month.
The Pixel 2 50% off is spread out over 24 months in bill credits after I pay the full retail price up front. In doing so, VZW will credit me $13.50/month. And in order to keep receiving the credits, you have to remain on the unlimited plan for the duration.
So in essence, I'd be paying $45/month EXTRA just to save $13.5.
Over the span of 24-months, I would have paid $1080 in fees, netting $325 from the "promo", thus paying an extra $755.
Conversely, I can just buy the Pixel 2 outright for $650. My understanding is that Black Friday is supposed to give discounts, not ways for folks to pay more than retail.
Even if they offered the Pixel 2 for free, then I would still say now as I would be out $430 just to get unlimited data that I don't use.
understood that everyone's situation is different, but hoping that this will give folks some pause before considering buying from VZW. and I normally have no issues with VZW, but now I do.
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Great post and entirely correct. I've been on the phone with VZW each day for the past few discussing this issue. Even the reps who were waiting for bf deals are in a bind. The only way even they could get the deals they want is to upgrade to unlimited.
Now that being said there are some deals to be made depending on your history with them. For instance, if you go to automatic billing there is a discount of around $25 / month. You might also be able to get further discounts if you push a little. I'm on a much larger plan than you are and after all was said and done the unlimited (which will give me hotspot too) will be costing me about $10 / month more over my current plan. But over the life of the plan that is still $600 for phone and plan and almost the cost of the device outright. But I will get unlimited and hotspot so it's probably worth it since I did bump up against my limit a month or so ago.
I'm not sure why they are doing this since as you said, this is not a deal for those that don't need unlimited. If you already are on it then it's an easy decision. Now the only caveat possibly is that in the future the unlimited plan will drop in price and you can take advantage of it without losing the promotion. But that's just wishful thinking. Verizon might need to rethink this deal when it doesn't get the customers that bf usually gets.

bobby janow said:
Great post and entirely correct. I've been on the phone with VZW each day for the past few discussing this issue. Even the reps who were waiting for bf deals are in a bind. The only way even they could get the deals they want is to upgrade to unlimited.
Now that being said there are some deals to be made depending on your history with them. For instance, if you go to automatic billing there is a discount of around $25 / month. You might also be able to get further discounts if you push a little. I'm on a much larger plan than you are and after all was said and done the unlimited (which will give me hotspot too) will be costing me about $10 / month more over my current plan. But over the life of the plan that is still $600 for phone and plan and almost the cost of the device outright. But I will get unlimited and hotspot so it's probably worth it since I did bump up against my limit a month or so ago.
I'm not sure why they are doing this since as you said, this is not a deal for those that don't need unlimited. If you already are on it then it's an easy decision. Now the only caveat possibly is that in the future the unlimited plan will drop in price and you can take advantage of it without losing the promotion. But that's just wishful thinking. Verizon might need to rethink this deal when it doesn't get the customers that bf usually gets.
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right. and just last year, their BF promo (for my wife's iPhone, and I think for the Pixel 1) was simply $450 off - no trade in, no plan change - just they issue you the rebate in monthly installments (which I'm fine with, as this is essentially a 2-year contract).
so I was greatly disappointed that the same promo is not available this year. hopefully, they'll adjust in the coming weeks.
but I, too, called and complained - even made the sales reps realize that it doesn't make sense for me to switch. I essentially asked them to give me a reason why I should buy it from them and not from Google. best response I got was, "they don't waive the activation fee".

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right. and just last year, their BF promo (for my wife's iPhone, and I think for the Pixel 1) was simply $450 off - no trade in, no plan change - just they issue you the rebate in monthly installments (which I'm fine with, as this is essentially a 2-year contract).
so I was greatly disappointed that the same promo is not available this year. hopefully, they'll adjust in the coming weeks.
but I, too, called and complained - even made the sales reps realize that it doesn't make sense for me to switch. I essentially asked them to give me a reason why I should buy it from them and not from Google. best response I got was, "they don't waive the activation fee".
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I just don't know what they are thinking other than getting everyone on unlimited plans. I'd take that but they needed to do something else like upgrade to unlimited and free phone, or if you have unlimited then half off phone. Naturally that doesn't make much sense but I will not let up on them. I'll go for it but it won't be the last they hear from me.
I have a call coming in Friday for the order but let's see what pops up tomorrow. I just don't think there are very many happy campers. If Google gives 200 bucks off it's a different ball game. But they won't. If the Mrs didn't need another phone desperately I'd hold off thru the new year. This is s bunch of crap imo.
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bobby janow said:
Great post and entirely correct. I've been on the phone with VZW each day for the past few discussing this issue. Even the reps who were waiting for bf deals are in a bind. The only way even they could get the deals they want is to upgrade to unlimited.
Now that being said there are some deals to be made depending on your history with them. For instance, if you go to automatic billing there is a discount of around $25 / month. You might also be able to get further discounts if you push a little. I'm on a much larger plan than you are and after all was said and done the unlimited (which will give me hotspot too) will be costing me about $10 / month more over my current plan. But over the life of the plan that is still $600 for phone and plan and almost the cost of the device outright. But I will get unlimited and hotspot so it's probably worth it since I did bump up against my limit a month or so ago.
I'm not sure why they are doing this since as you said, this is not a deal for those that don't need unlimited. If you already are on it then it's an easy decision. Now the only caveat possibly is that in the future the unlimited plan will drop in price and you can take advantage of it without losing the promotion. But that's just wishful thinking. Verizon might need to rethink this deal when it doesn't get the customers that bf usually gets.
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$25 off for auto pay? That can't be right, or at least not that simple. For a family plan or something, minimum of 4 lines?

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$25 off for auto pay? That can't be right, or at least not that simple. For a family plan or something, minimum of 4 lines?
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I have 5 lines but yeah, $25 off with autopay. That's what she told me yesterday and I'll know for certain tomorrow morning when I do the order. I will let you know for sure.

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I have 5 lines but yeah, $25 off with autopay. That's what she told me yesterday and I'll know for certain tomorrow morning when I do the order. I will let you know for sure.
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That sounds like $5/line which is what I though I read too.

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That sounds like $5/line which is what I though I read too.
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Oh... so that's what it is. Then I got an extra $15 / month but don't know why. I think she said I had a good record or something. I didn't question her too hard hoping she was just doing a good deed. As I said, I'll know for sure in a few hours. If she doesn't call then I'll know I've been had. Won't be the first or last time. Bottom line, I won't pay over 10 bucks extra / month + the $375 for the device. I'd just get the Google version for 650 and be done with it. Or keep my Pixel for another year.
BTW, Black Friday sucks this year. It's really black Thursday morning. Had some stuff in my cart, went to check out after looking for a little bit more and the stuff was removed as not available any longer. What a joke. Couple of Best Buy things and jeans at a great price at another store. Ridiculous.

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That sounds like $5/line which is what I though I read too.
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Ok, just got off with the rep. You are right, it's $5 / line discount plus she gave me an extra $15 / month off because I'm a good customer I think. In store pickup later today, 64gb version almost blue. Bottom line is that I'll be paying about $20 / month more for the Pixel 2 with unlimited vs my old 12gb plan and I have hotspot to boot. I think that's a pretty good deal for the phone.
My wife gets rid of her S5 finally and inherits the Pixel which surprisingly is bootloader unlockable. (switch is toggled although I don't bl unlock anyway) Wondering if when I switch the device to her line they'll make it grayed out. Not a big deal either way. I think if I leave the switch to on then even when I activate her account it will remain on as long as I set her up on wifi first. We'll see.
Oh one more thing.. they waived the $30 activation fee too. Plus I think I'll get about $45 for her phone once I send it in. Pristine condition so I should get something. All in all a pretty good BF morning so far. Still pissed about my laptop fiasco at Best Buy and my jeans but you can't win 'em all.

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Ok, just got off with the rep. You are right, it's $5 / line discount plus she gave me an extra $15 / month off because I'm a good customer I think. In store pickup later today, 64gb version almost blue. Bottom line is that I'll be paying about $20 / month more for the Pixel 2 with unlimited vs my old 12gb plan and I have hotspot to boot. I think that's a pretty good deal for the phone.
My wife gets rid of her S5 finally and inherits the Pixel which surprisingly is bootloader unlockable. (switch is toggled although I don't bl unlock anyway) Wondering if when I switch the device to her line they'll make it grayed out. Not a big deal either way. I think if I leave the switch to on then even when I activate her account it will remain on as long as I set her up on wifi first. We'll see.
Oh one more thing.. they waived the $30 activation fee too. Plus I think I'll get about $45 for her phone once I send it in. Pristine condition so I should get something. All in all a pretty good BF morning so far. Still pissed about my laptop fiasco at Best Buy and my jeans but you can't win 'em all.
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Went with the S8. $350 off at Best buy. So far, so good. Larger battery, 3.5mm jack, wireless charging, and able to root (although have not done it yet). Plus, I get to keep my plan. I'm going to ask them to waive the upgrade fee too.
Doubt I'll come back here unless the pixel 2 is offered for free.
So wishing you and everyone else all the best.

I too was disappointed by Verizon's black friday deals (and really everyone else's also more or less). However, I had a very weird experience with VZW...
I got on their website Thursday mid-morning to just see what a Pixel 2 would cost if I went unlimited, bought it normally, etc. I added it to my cart and went through the checkout process, but it never actually prompted me to upgrade to unlimited. The only option I even saw was keeping my existing plan, which is the Verizon Plan 4GB.
When I got to the final checkout screen, my monthly total for the phone itself showed $13.50 and my plan still showed the 4GB plan. So, I went ahead and put the order through. When I got the receipt, it too listed the $13.50 monthly price.
So, I have documentation FROM Verizon giving me a Pixel 2 for $13.50/mo without going unlimited.
That said, I suspect they will conveniently "forget" to apply the actual credits to my account each month and I'll have to fight them tooth and nail to get anything. But hey, I have screenshots and a receipt proving that they "goofed" and I see no legal standing for them not honoring it. /shrug

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I too was disappointed by Verizon's black friday deals (and really everyone else's also more or less). However, I had a very weird experience with VZW...
I got on their website Thursday mid-morning to just see what a Pixel 2 would cost if I went unlimited, bought it normally, etc. I added it to my cart and went through the checkout process, but it never actually prompted me to upgrade to unlimited. The only option I even saw was keeping my existing plan, which is the Verizon Plan 4GB.
When I got to the final checkout screen, my monthly total for the phone itself showed $13.50 and my plan still showed the 4GB plan. So, I went ahead and put the order through. When I got the receipt, it too listed the $13.50 monthly price.
So, I have documentation FROM Verizon giving me a Pixel 2 for $13.50/mo without going unlimited.
That said, I suspect they will conveniently "forget" to apply the actual credits to my account each month and I'll have to fight them tooth and nail to get anything. But hey, I have screenshots and a receipt proving that they "goofed" and I see no legal standing for them not honoring it. /shrug
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Very jealous.
I tried that same approach on multiple times, but to no avail. Perhaps did you indicate that you were trading in your current device? So make sure you do not owe them a device you don't have.
The deal prior to Friday was trade in an eligible device to get a certain % off (up to 50%) with no need to adjust your plan.
The deal on Friday was to up your plan to unlimited, but no trade in required.
As for me, Best buy offered the Samsung Galaxy S8 for $350 off with no strings attached. So I got it. Pretty happy so far.

Looks like VZW is finally offering g $300 off the pixel 2. Only stipulation is that you must pay in full up front, and then VZW will issue you bill credits over 24 months.
I would have been fine with this had I not already got my S8.

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Looks like VZW is finally offering g $300 off the pixel 2. Only stipulation is that you must pay in full up front, and then VZW will issue you bill credits over 24 months.
I would have been fine with this had I not already got my S8.
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So are they charging the full amount up front or over the course of 24 months? The way it worked for me on black Friday was that I was charged the monthly $27 and then a credit applied for $13 each month. Is this the same or different?

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So are they charging the full amount up front or over the course of 24 months? The way it worked for me on black Friday was that I was charged the monthly $27 and then a credit applied for $13 each month. Is this the same or different?
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So it looks they're advertising it to be $14.58/month, so perhaps no payment upfront.
I told a friend that bought 2 of them a few weeks ago, and they were able to return it and get the new price. But he did not open them yet.

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So it looks they're advertising it to be $14.58/month, so perhaps no payment upfront.
I told a friend that bought 2 of them a few weeks ago, and they were able to return it and get the new price. But he did not open them yet.
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Yeah, that makes more sense. They lock you in to a 2 year contract kind of because you can't pay it off. If you want to then you have to pay the full amount of $650 even if it's a month away from the end of 2 years.
Now what they should do is anyone who purchased within the return period of 15 days I think it is, charge them the $35 restocking fee (which your friend will probably have to pay for each returned device) and give them the discount without having to return the device.

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Yeah, that makes more sense. They lock you in to a 2 year contract kind of because you can't pay it off. If you want to then you have to pay the full amount of $650 even if it's a month away from the end of 2 years.
Now what they should do is anyone who purchased within the return period of 15 days I think it is, charge them the $35 restocking fee (which your friend will probably have to pay for each returned device) and give them the discount without having to return the device.
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I don't think he paid the restocking fee since he never opened them.
Still contemplating on returning/selling my S8 for this deal.
But then I'd give up a bigger battery, wireless charging, and a 3.5mm headphone jack.

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I don't think he paid the restocking fee since he never opened them.
Still contemplating on returning/selling my S8 for this deal.
But then I'd give up a bigger battery, wireless charging, and a 3.5mm headphone jack.
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Even for the fee it's worth it. Still saves 265 bucks.
Now to your situation.. the battery on the pixel 2 is great and on the XL even better. I don't think that should be of major concern unless you live in the boonies with no access to power for 24 hours. Wireless charging? Haven't had that since my N5 and miss it only for nostalgia. Headphone? Agree.. but get a good wireless pair and use the adapter for the current ones.
But this is a personal choice you need to make and I'm no one to make judgment either way. I really don't think you can go wrong no matter what you decide.
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Even for the fee it's worth it. Still saves 265 bucks.
Now to your situation.. the battery on the pixel 2 is great and on the XL even better. I don't think that should be of major concern unless you live in the boonies with no access to power for 24 hours. Wireless charging? Haven't had that since my N5 and miss it only for nostalgia. Headphone? Agree.. but get a good wireless pair and use the adapter for the current ones.
But this is a personal choice you need to make and I'm no one to make judgment either way. I really don't think you can go wrong no matter what you decide.
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hoping you're right. i'd prefer the bloatless google version, but those 3 items are deal-breakers for me. i came from the moto droid turbo, which had all of those (3900 mAh battery). so I didn't want to give up any of those items. wireless charging is such bonus. however, if the pixel 3 has wireless charging and a bigger battery, then I'll consider switching next year.
I presume we'll get the same offers as this year - as I see a pattern forming with VZW:
- early October/November: offer $100 off
- late November: offer $300 off with a trade in
- black friday: something stupid to boost their quota
- week after black friday: offer more reasonable deals