[Q] Best course of action, rooted w/stock rom, OTA nagging - G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

My VZW G2 is rooted with the stock rom, no TWRP installed, some bloatware removed. I am receiving nagging notifications about the OTA update. I know a lot of people have had issues so I wanted to find out what the recommended course of action would be in my situation? Looking to make it as easy as possible as this is my first time rooting a phone. Thanks!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=49246603
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bachera said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=49246603
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Please excuse my confusion, but which post on there refers to my issue? I did see the post about the FOTA folder. Is there something I should do with that? Thank you.

set automatic update check off, then delete this folders content and gone is the nagging.
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Thank you for that explanation. What would be the best way to go about it if I wanted to install the update while retaining my root?

wakeboarder141 said:
Thank you for that explanation. What would be the best way to go about it if I wanted to install the update while retaining my root?
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Wait until somebody posts a debloated root friendly version and flash away. Not sure if the update that's bugging people is 12b or if it's a different update.
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spincredible said:
Wait until somebody posts a debloated root friendly version and flash away
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So there is no way to use the OTA update even though I haven't flashed a custom ROM?

wakeboarder141 said:
So there is no way to use the OTA update even though I haven't flashed a custom ROM?
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yes save the folder they are telling you to remove when a update comes out, if you want it then copy the folder back/set the permission rw/r/r and your good to go

How do set automatic update off? Or do I have to delete Or rename a certain file so this won't happen again. Thanks
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antawnm26 said:
yes save the folder they are telling you to remove when a update comes out, if you want it then copy the folder back/set the permission rw/r/r and your good to go
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Is there a safe way for me to just use the OTA update now?

if you have not changed recovery, and root only, just follow fellow people that have posted how to.
if you have custom recovery, there is a workaround that may or may not work for you.
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Question about root and otas

If im perm rooted and I uninstalled bloatware, remapped genius button when a new ota comes out for the mt4g would it install regularly or what would I have to do?
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im pretty sure you would need to update it manually...ie yourself
dont apply updates from OTA if rooted!
Apply a new rom yourself
blancoisgod said:
dont apply updates from OTA if rooted!
Apply a new rom yourself
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Then what do you do?
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mftek said:
Then what do you do?
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There will be custom roms with the updates long before a ota one
mftek said:
If im perm rooted and I uninstalled bloatware, remapped genius button when a new ota comes out for the mt4g would it install regularly or what would I have to do?
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It depends... if what you removed needs to be patched by the OTA then no it will not work. If the OTA does not attempt to patch those files it should go through with no problems. The workaround to that is to backup what you remove so you can put it back before the OTA applies or get on a custom rom.
slhpss said:
It depends... if what you removed needs to be patched by the OTA then no it will not work. If the OTA does not attempt to patch those files it should go through with no problems. The workaround to that is to backup what you remove so you can put it back before the OTA applies or get on a custom rom.
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Cool thanks bro!!
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How to stop ota?

How do I stop the 4.2 ota? I been reading a lot of bad news about it and no support for stickmount app which I use a lot. I already checked with titanium backup but I can't find the right app to freeze in order to stop firmware updates. Anyone know how to do it?
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trust me , im on 4.2 and i dont get any issues , its much better than 4.1.2 , follow my toturial and you will have a nice and clean 4.2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1990258
I really don't want to wipe all my data and I want to keep it just stock. I mess around with my gs3 enough I want to leave my nexus 7 stock rooted. I use stickmount on a daily basis so I'm not going to 4.2 until it is compatible
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i think u must edit some files in /system to stop ota notifications. more i cant tell
miguelcold said:
i think u must edit some files in /system to stop ota notifications. more i cant tell
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I'll take a peek in there
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i would like to know how to disable the notification as well.. tia..
Root your nexus and disable ota.
I recommend using wugs toolkit to root since it is so easy
And 'Gemini app manager' or 'Root app delete' ('disable' or 'block' ota, just dont 'uninstall'.
thx for the advice.. i was given another solution which i prefer a bit more..
read this topic for detailed steps: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1998378
iamelton said:
thx for the advice.. i was given another solution which i prefer a bit more..
read this topic for detailed steps: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1998378
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I followed this guide. It took about 3 minutes and it works. To get updates back I assume just delete the apk from /system/app right/?
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cell128 said:
I followed this guide. It took about 3 minutes and it works. To get updates back I assume just delete the apk from /system/app right/?
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yes i think so, but obviously i havent tried that..

Can I use the cm10.1 message apk on a stock rooted Nexus 4?

I want to keep my Nexus stock but I really like the text message app from cm. Is there a way to use that one instead of the stock message app? I'm assuming I just have to remove the stock app and then replace it with the cm one right?
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Yup. Replace and set permissions. Reboot
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Replace it in root explorer.
Yes, just use any file manager with root access and replace it and then give correct permission (rwx-r--r-- I believe)
Also I highly advise you to make a copy of the stock app and place it somewhere in the phone, just in case.
ALSO if you're odexed, this might now work as it also needs odex file and if you are odexed and replaced the app, you might get into the bootloop I think. Never tried it on odexed ROMs, but I think that's what happens
kyokeun1234 said:
Yes, just use any file manager with root access and replace it and then give correct permission (rwx-r--r-- I believe)
Also I highly advise you to make a copy of the stock app and place it somewhere in the phone, just in case.
ALSO if you're odexed, this might now work as it also needs odex file and if you are odexed and replaced the app, you might get into the bootloop I think. Never tried it on odexed ROMs, but I think that's what happens
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I'm using stock. I'm not sure if stock is odexed. How do I get the app? Do I just unzip a cm update zip?
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armandosal said:
I'm using stock. I'm not sure if stock is odexed. How do I get the app? Do I just unzip a cm update zip?
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Did you do flash any ROM? If not, you have odexed ROM. Make sure to make a nandroid backup before doing this as I believe you might get into the bootloop.
You can easily get the app by doing that.
kyokeun1234 said:
Did you do flash any ROM? If not, you have odexed ROM. Make sure to make a nandroid backup before doing this as I believe you might get into the bootloop.
You can easily get the app by doing that.
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All ive done with the phone is unlock the bootloader and root it. So your saying that I should install a CWM and do a nandroid? Won't installing that wipe my phone?
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armandosal said:
All ive done with the phone is unlock the bootloader and root it. So your saying that I should install a CWM and do a nandroid? Won't installing that wipe my phone?
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Flashing custom recovery? Nope. Only unlocking not loader does
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armandosal said:
All ive done with the phone is unlock the bootloader and root it. So your saying that I should install a CWM and do a nandroid? Won't installing that wipe my phone?
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No. Before you screw with anything in system, make a backup. If you break something, a simple restore will fix it.
The cm message app is system/app/messaging.apk. Extract it from the cm zip and follow the directions above to install it.
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You won't go into a boot loop, only thing that will happen is either the Mms.apk won't show up in the launcher or it'll FC. Sometimes, using the newest one from nightlies will cause FC. One has been posted in the apps section that works and has what you're looking for. Its better to use any root explorer app and copy it to /system/apps and fix permissions. And like someone said, make a copy of your original Mms.apk and Mms.odex files to your phone..
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If you're just stock rooted, you'll have to go in and re-install the messaging app after every reboot because the stock uses the .odex files to create the mms app, but there is a stock, deodexed, rooted ROM here, and you can just load the CM10.1 MMS into it and it'll work fine. That's what I did
Or you could check out Glowfly on the play store.
It's a pop-up notification app with quick reply support.
Made the same recommendation in a similar thread in the Themes and Apps section. I'm not affiliated with the devs. Just wanted to show support for a good app.
anyone know if this app changes the orienation of your photos from landscape to portrait? This seemed to be a bug on all roms using this apk on my old Galaxy s2.
lookinoji said:
If you're just stock rooted, you'll have to go in and re-install the messaging app after every reboot because the stock uses the .odex files to create the mms app, but there is a stock, deodexed, rooted ROM here, and you can just load the CM10.1 MMS into it and it'll work fine. That's what I did
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Yea I just rebooted my phone after installing the mms app and now it's force closing.
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lookinoji said:
If you're just stock rooted, you'll have to go in and re-install the messaging app after every reboot because the stock uses the .odex files to create the mms app, but there is a stock, deodexed, rooted ROM here, and you can just load the CM10.1 MMS into it and it'll work fine. That's what I did
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Will I still get official ota updates like that?
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AT&T Update?

I read that the ATT GS4 was getting a new update (http://www.androidauthority.com/update-rolling-out-for-atts-galaxy-s4-241248/) but I still havent gotten it. Any body else not getting it? When will I get it?
white.noise said:
I read that the ATT GS4 was getting a new update (http://www.androidauthority.com/update-rolling-out-for-atts-galaxy-s4-241248/) but I still havent gotten it. Any body else not getting it? When will I get it?
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Your about 2 weeks too late. Anyway, why would anyone want it? It completely takes away root, and loki custom recovery.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2366576
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2367355
If you really want it, install Kies on your pc, connect your phone and pc via USB and let it patch it. Like was said above, it will unroot your phone... however, if you're not rooted, no worries.
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Hey there guys, I'm relatively new to all this rooting and such. I have a rooted ATT s4. I have titanium backup (I just don't know too much about Roms, flashing, and custom recoveries). Anyway, as I saw the update, I went and started the update. Meanwhile updating, I came across a page saying it broke root...it kept updating though so I frantically thought of things I could do to stop it and simply used titanium backup to freeze the att updater app. If I unfreeze it, it will resume downloading from where it left off. I have downloaded folder mount, set CPU, and I don't think I've flashed anything...I don't even know what it means...but yeah, I really envy the better quality of the photo taking and HDR recording as well as the better memory usage and lag removed with the update...is there a way to keep root and have the updated firmware...keep in mind I'm still a noon so please use non geeky terms...thanks and any help is appreciated...(is there a way to cancel the ATT update progress so I don't have to keep the app frozen through titanium backup?) Thanks again
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ahura999 said:
Hey there guys, I'm relatively new to all this rooting and such. I have a rooted ATT s4. I have titanium backup (I just don't know too much about Roms, flashing, and custom recoveries). Anyway, as I saw the update, I went and started the update. Meanwhile updating, I came across a page saying it broke root...it kept updating though so I frantically thought of things I could do to stop it and simply used titanium backup to freeze the att updater app. If I unfreeze it, it will resume downloading from where it left off. I have downloaded folder mount, set CPU, and I don't think I've flashed anything...I don't even know what it means...but yeah, I really envy the better quality of the photo taking and HDR recording as well as the better memory usage and lag removed with the update...is there a way to keep root and have the updated firmware...keep in mind I'm still a noon so please use non geeky terms...thanks and any help is appreciated...(is there a way to cancel the ATT update progress so I don't have to keep the app frozen through titanium backup?) Thanks again
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here is geek terms for you, you should have read in the many threads about this, you are now stuck on the update, no going back, there is a root method in the works right now, maybe released already, keep searching the general thread, there is something on the root. Sorry, but giving it to you straight, don't take it wrong. Always READ before you even look at doing something to your phone, I CAN NOT STRESS how important that is.
Good luck.
Thanks you.
Well, i figure you mean no harm, but your style of writing killed a part of me... My phone is still rooted though, as I said. Furthermore, it ISNT updated. I froze the updater before it fully processed. Thanks
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Wait do you mean that the update already exists on my phone?
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ahura999 said:
Well, i figure you mean no harm, but your style of writing killed a part of me... My phone is still rooted though, as I said. Furthermore, it ISNT updated. I froze the updater before it fully processed. Thanks
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Wait do you mean that the update already exists on my phone?
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Then if you stopped the update, what are we trying to accomplish?
TheAxman said:
Then if you stopped the update, what are we trying to accomplish?
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I want the benefits of the update with root
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ahura999 said:
I want the benefits of the update with root
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Then this is your rom, that way you can keep root and recovery.. has all of the features you are looking for...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2280556
Thank you.
TheAxman said:
Then this is your rom, that way you can keep root and recovery.. has all of the features you are looking for...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2280556
Thank you.
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Thanks for the link, I'm not too sure about doing this or not... I'm a total noon with roms, flashing, recoveries or whatever. I'll ask a friend for help. Thanks for the link though!
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TheAxman said:
Then this is your rom, that way you can keep root and recovery.. has all of the features you are looking for...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2280556
Thank you.
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In fact, this rom has features that I don't like. It says it removes carrier name and things like that. Some people experienced no wifi and no data. Is there not such a thing as just the new update with root. Minus all the custom features.
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If you follow instructions, and check the OP add ons none of what you say will happen. Very fast,stable ROM. Learn what to do by reading..hell watch some YouTube videos...its not that difficult..if you don't like the ROM you can just nandroid back.
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slawcop` said:
If you follow instructions, and check the OP add ons none of what you say will happen. Very fast,stable ROM. Learn what to do by reading..hell watch some YouTube videos...its not that difficult..if you don't like the ROM you can just nandroid back.
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WELL PUT!
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ahura999 said:
In fact, this rom has features that I don't like. It says it removes carrier name and things like that. Some people experienced no wifi and no data. Is there not such a thing as just the new update with root. Minus all the custom features.
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The people not getting wifi/data ARE NOT READING! PERIOD!
I have a new program I am starting...
1) Send me your phone, you pay shipping
2) I will load it for you (rom of your choice)
3) you pay for the shipping back
4) guess what, working.
Cost - priceless! - Not Cheap!
ahura999 said:
In fact, this rom has features that I don't like. It says it removes carrier name and things like that. Some people experienced no wifi and no data. Is there not such a thing as just the new update with root. Minus all the custom features.
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Check out CLEANrom 1.5. It is what I have and I think it might be something you are describing.
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Dont update it!

Future Updates to a rooted phone.

Hello All,
Should I freeze my updater so I do not get any future updates without me wanting them? I heard if you have a rooted devices with a custom recovery sometimes an ota update can not only remove root but brick your phone. If this is so can anyone show me how to freeze the updater?
Thank you.
Kinda would like this information since I'm still using my stock ROM and don't wanna accidentally take any otas
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well its illegal to automatically update your phone without your consent so you shouldn't need to block anything. However ofcourse you could "accidently" update so its up to you.
djraimondi said:
Kinda would like this information since I'm still using my stock ROM and don't wanna accidentally take any otas
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If your on the stock ROM and rooted and have custom recovery installed you will absolutely brick your device. This happened to quite a few people here including myself and it took about a day for the devs to get our devices fixed when the first OTA rolled out. So yes freeze it. if your on a custom ROM then you need not worry about this.
Walter21026 said:
If your on the stock ROM and rooted and have custom recovery installed you will absolutely brick your device. This happened to quite a few people here including myself and it took about a day for the devs to get our devices fixed when the first OTA rolled out. So yes freeze it. if your on a custom ROM then you need not worry about this.
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What exactly do I freeze. I'm assuming I can use titanium backup to freeze it but I have no idea what to freeze.
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djraimondi said:
What exactly do I freeze. I'm assuming I can use titanium backup to freeze it but I have no idea what to freeze.
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Freeze "Software Update MUC"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2450772&highlight=ota&page=2
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Freeze "Software Update MUC"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2450772&highlight=ota&page=2
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Thank youuu. For the life of me I couldn't find that.
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