[q] clean rom - Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi i tried search but don't see any rom stocked without bloatware, and with tweaks for battery and performance..any rom like that here? thanks

LaZer713 said:
Hi i tried search but don't see any rom stocked without bloatware, and with tweaks for battery and performance..any rom like that here? thanks
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Unfortunately, these types of threads are not allowed on XDA. And the reason, is what other people like, may not be good for you. Not to mention fans loyal to a specific ROM, like to start flame wars within threads like these.
My advice, is to stick to the normal development forum. There you will find several ROMs from stock with bloatware removed, and tweaked kernels included. I looked and there are several. Civato generally uses a stock based source. Read the OP, then read the last several pages and you'll get an idea of any current issues.
Original Development is where you get the CM, OMNI, PA, PAC, Slim type builds. These are source built.
You will probably need to try a few till you find what suits your needs. Most use Aroma installer so you can remove the bloatware on install (choose what you want)
With that said, this thread is closed.
Cheers!
MD

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What is the most stable ROM with GingerBread+Sense for X8?

What is the most stable ROM with GingerBread+Sense for X8? Or at least, is there a rom with full functions working?
I use Racht's CM7 Roms. It is stable but quite battery drain.
Thanks. Any more choices? Since this one has some major bugs on Camera, FM etc. Also the X8 battery is really weak...
qiushuo said:
What is the most stable ROM with GingerBread+Sense for X8? Or at least, is there a rom with full functions working?
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I'm with shpit's ROM, XGin 5.4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1135343
The camera works only in VGA mode but works
I really don't understand what's wrong whit those threads, i mean, if you look in Development forum there are many Custom Roms topics, every chef gave description of what does and doesn't work in theyr roms, there are people that report back issue and not of that roms, so what i'm asking to myself is:
Is it really necessary to open a thread for "what is the most stable rom?".
Am i wrong here?
I know, this is general forums but it doesn't mean that every new user should post here these no sense threads ( no offence here).
Again, am i wrong? Because sometimes i was told that i'm evil to close some kinds of threads.
I know that new users cannot post in dev section but IMO all these questions have an answer only by reading Rom Threads.
I don't want to be "the evil moderator" since that, if i can, i like to be helpful, say that, i can make a sticky thread for a general vision, pro/cons of every x8 roms but someone need to start and take care of it because i don't have an X8.
let me know.
af974 said:
I really don't understand what's wrong whit those threads, i mean, if you look in Development forum there are many Custom Roms topics, every chef gave description of what does and doesn't work in theyr roms, there are people that report back issue and not of that roms, so what i'm asking to myself is:
Is it really necessary to open a thread for "what is the most stable rom?".
Am i wrong here?
I know, this is general forums but it doesn't mean that every new user should post here these no sense threads ( no offence here).
Again, am i wrong? Because sometimes i was told that i'm evil to close some kinds of threads.
I know that new users cannot post in dev section but IMO all these questions have an answer only by reading Rom Threads.
I don't want to be "the evil moderator" since that, if i can, i like to be helpful, say that, i can make a sticky thread for a general vision, pro/cons of every x8 roms but someone need to start and take care of it because i don't have an X8.
let me know.
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You (I guess it's you ) made my FAQ post sticky.
But still, same q's remain...
I should update my post with roms questions and reviews ...
damn....owned lol
if you wanna help this community with some custom roms reviews, faqs and tips i will be thankfull to you
Let me know if you need some additional blank posts under your first one.
Cheers man
Dare-Devil Inside said:
You (I guess it's you ) made my FAQ post sticky.
But still, same q's remain...
I should update my post with roms questions and reviews ...
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I really like racht's roms, there are less services running in background than others and is a pretty stable rom. I've been using it for weeks and i had no reboots. About the battery drain question, disable the automatic sinc in the options.
its only my opinion... already tried floyo, miniCM and froyobread....
1) floyo is fast but battery drain very fast..
2) the most stable is miniCM.. all is working and suitable for daily use
3) stable rom with gingerbread look...
try all of em yourself and pick what u like....
I believe I've tried all kind of ROMs: 2.2.1, 2.2.9 (?) and 2.3.4. For me kuyaDROID was the fastest and stable 2.3.4. But all 2.3.4 I have tried consumed my battery at most in a day (also kuya's). One version ate my battery in a half of day. So, for the moment, I decided to come back to 2.2.1 (floyo-0.20) which is the fastest (1000+), stable and battery care (more than two days) for me. An advice: you will see here different opinions for the same ROM - so try all for youself, and make your own opinion. Good luck.

SUBSTITUTE FOR Lite'ning Rom v6.1 WHICH CAN BE FLASHED WITH NO WIPES

People are waiting for an update on Lite'ning Rom v6.1 since a long time but no news from LITEPRO the maker. I really wish that LITEPRO does come up with an awesome update on lite'ning rom asap but atleast there should be an alternative to it.
I would appreciate if people can please come up with their own experiences and share their valuable information on which Rom one can install that can substitute the Lite'ning Rom without any wipes.
Things that we are looking for in another ROM are as similar to the Lite'ning Rom and they are as follows:
1. Lightning fast speed
2. NO BUGS
3. The rom can be installed without any wipes
4. Regular Updates to be made available
5. All the features that lite'ning rom contained.
Looking forward for my XDA family to come up with the best possible solution.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18023628&postcount=15221
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1095274&page=762
tried already to do a similar thing. but read the answers.. i don't think that it will really work, but i would really really love it. hope for a wonder...
Sticky? why would this be stickied?
Nothing to do with development either...
I'm too looking for other ROM.... but its to dificult....
Look all the ROM post.....
always has bug and usually has stranges themes with a lot of pictures....
I prefered the stock rom Look and a lite Blue theme.....
If you see the others...... has a lot off updates ... NOT for new base... only for include beta or news modules and packages that late fail and produce BUGS.
I can't remenber more than 5 or 6 bugs... on ROM.....
Please, tell me your next ROM.
I thinking to test :
[ROM][KI3] Batista70 FOXHOUD EDITION 2.1 |03-10-2011|Jkay 11|+++RTL Arabic patch+++
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1162715
or
CriskeloRomV22-S-BAR7-Tog-BLN-CallREC-Overscroll-3LS-CamHack-PWR-M-Esxt-(XXKI3-2.3.5)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1168836
But don't want to start finding news bugs and don't has the phone to daily usage.
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Sticky? why would this be stickied?
Nothing to do with development either...
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Exactly, it has nothing to do with development nor contributes anything new other then what is floating around in all of the threads.
Not having a bash but if you wan to know what ROMs are out there to use, simply try them.
Everyone will experience different bugs as people use different add-ons like themes, diallers, kernels etc so a bug for one person isnt for another.
If you like a ROM, read the thread from the OP of that ROM, they generally have a changelog, FAQ's etc in the first few posts that will tell you if its a no wipe etc.
Backup always via CWM to revert back if youre unhappy and honestly, try all the ROM's so you can judge for yourself. If you read the first few pages you generally wont go wrong, espeically with a backup.
Something like a collective Kernel thread etc should be a sticky as that benefits everyone, not this.
I went from litening, to criskelo, cognition, skyrom and now leomar revolution. All no wipe and phones running great but thats with my setup, yours may be different so give it a go.
My rom after Litening [ROM][KI3] Batista70 FOXHOUD EDITION 2.1 |03-10-2011|Jkay 11|+++RTL Arabic patch+++
[ROM] [XXKI3] LeoMar75 Rom Revolution v2.7.1 - Kitchen App
this thread is only been made to get a good solution.......
i know there is no development involved in it but atleast this will help many people who are confused for which rom they should get for their phone. This will surely help many people to take a sensible decision.....
I've noticed that Wi-Fi direct doesn't work fine on lightening 6.1. I hope litepro will fix it. I don't to move to another rom cause I'm quiet satisfied with this one.
why is this in development?
Should be in Q&A.
This thread is pointless, just move on to another rom. It wont kill you to try roms that arent outdated
And the great thing about making a CWM backup (nandroid) is that you can flash new roms to your hearts content and if you don't like it, you can be back up in 2 minutes using restore. I am sure you'll find something you like. For me, I love Batista ROM it has blue themes and much more
Leomar75 rom. really a revolution rom. great in everything.
how is the battery life in this rom LEOMAR??
soulreaperak said:
Leomar75 rom. really a revolution rom. great in everything.
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I used lite'ning rom for months and loved it.
Now using batista 2.1 and loving it just as much, if not more.
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I was in the same position as the OP - loved LR but didn't want to get left behind with no updates from LitePro.
I've just moved to CriskleoROM today and after a minor hitch that required a reflash, it's working flawlessly.
Seems super fast.
Can't reliably report on battery life until 2nd or 3rd recharge cycle, but from what I have read it seems to be as good if not better than LR

Stupid kernel question

i've found just enough answers about this to confuse me
I understand the difference between a kernel and a ROM, what i don't understand is compatibility. Unless there's an epic ROM (eg, CM) i usually prefer to stay rooted, but bloat free. but I've never had an android device that i can go as hack-crazy as i intend to do with my soon-to-be-arriving a500, and i'm planning on at least exploring some more in depth hacks.
So, my question is, how cross compatible are kernels. I know they're often designed for specific ROMS, i also know there are at least some instances where you can use one kernel across multiple ROMS, and that in some cases one ROM can accept multiple kernels. But... i guess i'm just looking for clarification. How exactly does ROM/kernel compatibility work? can i swap out the stock kernel for the fastest kernel, or is it more complicated than that?
thanks in advance guys.
mtmerrick said:
i've found just enough answers about this to confuse me
I understand the difference between a kernel and a ROM, what i don't understand is compatibility. Unless there's an epic ROM (eg, CM) i usually prefer to stay rooted, but bloat free. but I've never had an android device that i can go as hack-crazy as i intend to do with my soon-to-be-arriving a500, and i'm planning on at least exploring some more in depth hacks.
So, my question is, how cross compatible are kernels. I know they're often designed for specific ROMS, i also know there are at least some instances where you can use one kernel across multiple ROMS, and that in some cases one ROM can accept multiple kernels. But... i guess i'm just looking for clarification. How exactly does ROM/kernel compatibility work? can i swap out the stock kernel for the fastest kernel, or is it more complicated than that?
thanks in advance guys.
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Most kernel threads will state which ROMs they're compatible with. Stick with what the OP of the thread states, and you should be OK, with exception of a few minor bugs here and there now and then.

Do NOT flash your phone with 3rd party ROMs

Do NOT flash your hero phone with 3rd party ROMs unless necessary. I have played with many kinds of ROMs for 1 year. Most of them are downright laggy, unstable, or battery-draining although you could have some new features. These Roms are not fully tested. Some of them even contain spyware... You normally need to wipe your phone for most 3rd party ROM updates and that means you need to re-configure your phone again and again.. Now, I got my stock ROM back after making a Gold-card and I'm very satisfied with my HTC stock ROM. This is a fast, stable, power-saving and fully-tested ROM. Upgrade is very smooth and not painful.
I would suggest you to flash your phone by RUU and then root it by some tools, e.g. http://www.unlockroot.com/. But, please keep an eye on the install procedure. Do not install unnecessary apps unless you want.
The above is only my personal experience. Hope it helps.
gnubot said:
Do NOT flash your hero phone with 3rd party ROMs unless necessary. I have played with many kinds of ROMs for 1 year. Most of them are downright laggy, unstable, or battery-draining although you could have some new features. These Roms are not fully tested. Some of them even contain spyware... You normally need to wipe your phone for most 3rd party ROM updates and that means you need to re-configure your phone again and again.. Now, I got my stock ROM back after making a Gold-card and I'm very satisfied with my HTC stock ROM. This is a fast, stable, power-saving and fully-tested ROM. Upgrade is very smooth and not painful.
I would suggest you to flash your phone by RUU and then root it by some tools, e.g. http://www.unlockroot.com/. But, please keep an eye on the install procedure. Do not install unnecessary apps unless you want.
The above is only my personal experience. Hope it helps.
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You must have been loading up some really bad ROMs if that was your experience. What kind of spyware have you even seen installed in ROMs? Each to their own.
私のEVO 3Dから送信される。
Yeah, if it wasn't for custom roms I would've gotten myself a new phone ages ago. If you want a bugless Rom you just flash a fully tested Rom, if goin want to try something new flash a new Rom. I've never heard about spyware either.
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My used ROMs include Crons, CM, Villian and some others that I can't remember. At present, I don't think there is any spyware in Crons, CM, Villian. Crons, CM, Villian are generally recognised as good 3rd pary ROMs. However, I don't think any of them is more stable or faster than stock ROMs.
I found some spywares installed as system apps in some Chinese ROMs disributed from hiapk.com and bbs.anzhi.com.. These are individual-maintained ROMs.
To my understanding, if an app requires extra permissions than what it actually needs, then that could be a spyware.
I'm not a professional mobile device developer. What I need is a rooted ROM that is bugless, does it job well and therefore suitable for everyday use.
dastin1015 said:
You must have been loading up some really bad ROMs if that was your experience. What kind of spyware have you even seen installed in ROMs? Each to their own.
私のEVO 3Dから送信される。
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Well, New features are very likely to require more computational resource. If you had a machine for win98, and you wanted to try Win7 with that, then I would suggest you not to do it.. HTC Hero is extacly that win98 Machine.
Habarug said:
Yeah, if it wasn't for custom roms I would've gotten myself a new phone ages ago. If you want a bugless Rom you just flash a fully tested Rom, if goin want to try something new flash a new Rom. I've never heard about spyware either.
sent with love from me to you
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gnubot said:
My used ROMs include Crons, CM, Villian and some others that I can't remember. At present, I don't think there is any spyware in Crons, CM, Villian. Crons, CM, Villian are generally recognised as good 3rd pary ROMs. However, I don't think any of them is more stable or faster than stock ROMs.
I found some spywares installed as system apps in some Chinese ROMs disributed from hiapk.com and bbs.anzhi.com.. These are individual-maintained ROMs.
To my understanding, if an app requires extra permissions than what it actually needs, then that could be a spyware.
I'm not a professional mobile device developer. What I need is a rooted ROM that is bugless, does it job well and therefore suitable for everyday use.
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That's why you stick to well known sites I also run my ROMs through tests before every release.
私のEVO 3Dから送信される。
Sounds good. I've never tried your ZERO ROMs. I may ask my friends to try it. I'm tired of changing and like the stock ROM (gets charged once and keeps running for three days).
dastin1015 said:
That's why you stick to well known sites I also
run my ROMs through tests before every release.
私のEVO 3Dから送信される。
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gnubot said:
Sounds good. I've never tried your ZERO ROMs. I may ask my friends to try it. I'm tired of changing and like the stock ROM (gets charged once and keeps running for three days).
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Hold up on flashing it until I get the next release out.
私のEVO 3Dから送信される。
@gnubot, which stock ROM did u flashed?
Now I use a repack of the oficial OTA 2.1-update1,flashed it and i get some Force Close errors(like com.htc.bgp etc).
I tried VillainROM v12 and v13 and i was stuck on the load-screen (i think it is the Sense app that is stuck on).
I saw that @dastin1015 uploaded his Zero Hero Sense 3.5 ROM, looks nice and I would like to try it, but I have some doubts about some bugs. Also, i searched the forum, and couldn't find any info on how to downgrade to 2.1 (if something goes wrong). I can't post a question under the Developer forum (as a new forum user).
Any instructions or help for me(a new android user).
Thanks,
aleksandar.1 said:
@gnubot, which stock ROM did u flashed?
Now I use a repack of the oficial OTA 2.1-update1,flashed it and i get some Force Close errors(like com.htc.bgp etc).
I tried VillainROM v12 and v13 and i was stuck on the load-screen (i think it is the Sense app that is stuck on).
I saw that @dastin1015 uploaded his Zero Hero Sense 3.5 ROM, looks nice and I would like to try it, but I have some doubts about some bugs. Also, i searched the forum, and couldn't find any info on how to downgrade to 2.1 (if something goes wrong). I can't post a question under the Developer forum (as a new forum user).
Any instructions or help for me(a new android user).
Thanks,
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Bharat has a new RC version of dastin315's rom. Its at the bottom of the thread. Maybe that'll help?
As for 2.1, you could flash an official 2.1 RUU and then root afterwards.
Sent from my HTC Hero using Tapatalk
Damn, you must'be flashed some rubbish roms mate. Try the decked, that should fulfill your needs.
Sent from my Hero using xda premium
aleksandar.1 said:
@gnubot, which stock ROM did u flashed?
Now I use a repack of the oficial OTA 2.1-update1,flashed it and i get some Force Close errors(like com.htc.bgp etc).
I tried VillainROM v12 and v13 and i was stuck on the load-screen (i think it is the Sense app that is stuck on).
I saw that @dastin1015 uploaded his Zero Hero Sense 3.5 ROM, looks nice and I would like to try it, but I have some doubts about some bugs. Also, i searched the forum, and couldn't find any info on how to downgrade to 2.1 (if something goes wrong). I can't post a question under the Developer forum (as a new forum user).
Any instructions or help for me(a new android user).
Thanks,
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RUU_Hero_Chunghwa_3.31.751.1_R_Radio_63.18.55.06O_6.35.15.01_release_signed.exe
Do not try to remove build-in apps such as HTC weather..
I got "com.htc.bgp" when using Villian 12/13 as well, I have never had this in my official HTC Asia ROM.
Do you think CM, Crons, Villian are rubbish? mate
Tenpin said:
Damn, you must'be flashed some rubbish roms mate. Try the decked, that should fulfill your needs.
Sent from my Hero using xda premium
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I'm a custom rom addict, rarely do I have a rom for more than 2 months before looking for something which more/better features. Sure there's some laggy roms out there, most of which are still in beta so you can't expect them to be "perfect" Roms. That said, there's plenty of excellent roms being worked on by some very clever and creative people, that go above and beyond the features stock roms offer. Get them from trusted sites/developers and you'll enjoy the experience
Sent from my Hero using XDA App
The best 3rd party ROM for Hero I used is Cronos.
blakemil said:
I'm a custom rom addict, rarely do I have a rom for more than 2 months before looking for something which more/better features. Sure there's some laggy roms out there, most of which are still in beta so you can't expect them to be "perfect" Roms. That said, there's plenty of excellent roms being worked on by some very clever and creative people, that go above and beyond the features stock roms offer. Get them from trusted sites/developers and you'll enjoy the experience
Sent from my Hero using XDA App
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This http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1435655 new rom is better than stock, i think its not rubbish.
Why are u on a site dedicated to customizing and creating development for devices if u think stock is best. Shouldn't that be on the HTC website I'm sure they have a forum for that lol
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lobedoc said:
This http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1435655 new rom is better than stock, i think its not rubbish.
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The fact is that some Sense lovers are tired of laggy new sense ports I guess
Therefore, a stock android ROM is not a choice.
So, in a way, I must admit that gnubot is right.
But we can't deny that the work that JieeHD, dastin1015, elelinux and other devs did is pretty awesome!
And to finish, I don't really remember how many months HTC devs took to make a correct release of the new Sense...
lolo7291 said:
The fact is that some Sense lovers are tired of laggy new sense ports I guess
Therefore, a stock android ROM is not a choice.
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That is SO correct!!
I've tried non-Sense roms, they're great and fast and stable and good-looking, but not for me... i don't feel comfortable with them.
I even have got back to generic 1.5. So getting back to stock is not a solution.
At this moment, i have Wildheroc RoseV5, it's sense and it's GB.
I'm waiting for the Zero Hero Sense 3.5 to be "stable" and i'll flash it
I just had to post in this thread because of the title. It's pretty ridiculous that you'd create a topic on this site as bline007 said and not somewhere else. Especially using that topic title? You didn't really expect that anyone would agree with you I hope. For your sake I can only assume you meant to say "Be careful I've found some 3rd party roms with spyware" or the like.
P.S. I apologize for the flameish response but I feel a lot of patronage for this site and it's members because of the work massive amount of work and personal time they have spent to make my 'legacy' phone go out of it's comfort zone just to bring us features, options and a longevity we never expected from this phone. So please don't taint the hard work of the developers by making posts with titles as such.

[Q] Most Stable ROM

Short Story: I need a very Stable & Capable ICS or JB ROM
Long Story: I have yet to flash my first custom ROM on the Acer a500. I updated to the official ICS then rooted and installed a custom recovery. The problem is that there are so many bugs in the stock ROM that get quite annoying. i.e. the screen flickers from time to time in apps, and the tablet has to be restarted. To fix them, I'd have to do a factory reset, but if Im going to lose my data, might as well Flash a new ROM.
I need it to be able to run the top games like Nova 3 Gta 3 Modern Combat 3, Shadow-Gun etc. as well as be able to run Office Applications. I understand you guys can't guarantee that they will work, but please let me know which ROM you found capable of running most apps smoothly. I use this tablet for work and entertainment, thus stability is important.
Thanks. :laugh::good:
Look in my signature, there is the most stable JB ROM but it is stll in testing!
The best ICS ROM is here:
MOD EDIT: Link Removed. Providing direct links to roms containing non-GPL kernels are against XDA rules.
In that forum you will find also Civato`s ICS ROM, it is also to find here on xda
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Just some info;
Posting links to roms containing non-GPL kernels are prohibited as per XDA rules. This is something most people know about already.
XDA has stable roms. However, if one chooses to install a non-hosted rom, one can't expect much support in the forums. Support would be better served at the authors site.
Cheers.
MD
bobiscool07 said:
Short Story: I need a very Stable & Capable ICS or JB ROM
Long Story: I have yet to flash my first custom ROM on the Acer a500. I updated to the official ICS then rooted and installed a custom recovery. The problem is that there are so many bugs in the stock ROM that get quite annoying. i.e. the screen flickers from time to time in apps, and the tablet has to be restarted. To fix them, I'd have to do a factory reset, but if Im going to lose my data, might as well Flash a new ROM.
I need it to be able to run the top games like Nova 3 Gta 3 Modern Combat 3, Shadow-Gun etc. as well as be able to run Office Applications. I understand you guys can't guarantee that they will work, but please let me know which ROM you found capable of running most apps smoothly. I use this tablet for work and entertainment, thus stability is important.
Thanks. :laugh::good:
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First off, I would suggest installing the Unlocked V8 bootloader along with the most recent Recovery. This makes it easier for a lot of things.
Civato's ICS roms seem to be the most popular as far as ICS for the A500.
Waydownsouth's CM10 also seems to be okay as well, but is still inwork as with most CM10 roms.
Both roms will use the Godwarrior OC/UV kernel, so if you need more framerate, it's there.
Also, you can flash one of the stock rooted/deodexed versions and OC/UV kernel.
EZTerry also has an OC/UV kernel as well which runs good.
It all boils down to how the rom runs on "your" tablet. Contrary to popular belief, not all A500's are created equal. Some have different revision hardware.
My advice is to try a couple. See how they run.
MD
@moscow desire,
" XDA has stable roms. However, if one chooses to install a non-hosted rom, one can't expect much support in the forums. Support would be better served at the authors site. "
So why do you think, I posted the link from the authors side??
Definitely not to make you angry!
Diversity can only exist if you don't use only one information source!! Diversity and variety are necessery for free decelopment... .
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meduza2 said:
@moscow desire,
" XDA has stable roms. However, if one chooses to install a non-hosted rom, one can't expect much support in the forums. Support would be better served at the authors site. "
So why do you think, I posted the link from the authors side??
Definitely not to make you angry!
Diversity can only exist if you don't use only one information source!! Diversity and variety are necessery for free decelopment... .
m.
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It's OK Mate. Sent you a PM.
The problem with doing support with a "non-hosted" rom, is that, due to the fact Thor uses non-GPL kernels, And some other encrypted things, a lot of people are unfamiliar with what issue it's been known to cause. Whereas most users here, use what XDA hosts, or they compile from GPL and Apache sources. Especially when it comes to kernels.
Which is why, if you run Thors rom, you will get better support at Thors site. Plain and simple. It's not that some people here will not try and help. I've done it myself, and quite successful depending on the issue. It's just that his roms are a bit different.
MD

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