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Hello everyone. The time has come. Today Samsung announced their new flagship device GT i9300 A.K.A. Galaxy S3. Now, if you are a big fan of pure AOSP and his aftermarket distributions like I am you certainly already know that ICS based CyanogenMod 9 is out there and running and its pure fresh blazing awesomeness. That said, I decided to start this pledge to gather money to give Teamhacksung members codeworkx and xplodwild the next Samsung Galaxy S3 so they can develop for it and port CM9. As you probably know, Teamhacksung is the official CM mantainer for Samsung devices.
Im daily in touch with Teamhacksung members and they are already aware and fully support this pledge.
We running for two devices here. The ammount already includes Pledgie taxes. The donnations are going straight to xplodwild’s paypal account.
We count on you that, like me, is certainly going to buy this new beast called Galaxy S3 and want to see it sporting CM9 and future Google AOSP releases.
CM9 on Galaxy S3 for the WIN!!!!
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****[UPDATE]****
People,
Im very proud to come here and say that
WE REACHED OUR GOAL!!!
I want to thank all of you very much for the collaboration. We did it and we did it fast. We are TEH community and we always prove right that we have such amazing power together. Thank you very very much again.
Now devs have what is needed to start the wild porting workx. Stay tuned! I will reach you with more news when I have them.
going to donate! this is definitely needed!
As soon as xplodwild at teamhacksung received the galaxy note, we received the cm9 official build instantly.
and we raised funds in just 24 hours where we could get them the galaxy note, love the community spirit. lets do it!
s3 needs to pimp the cm9 for sure!
androidindian said:
going to donate! this is definitely needed!
As soon as xplodwild at teamhacksung received the galaxy note, we received the cm9 official build instantly.
and we raised funds in just 24 hours where we could get them the galaxy note, love the community spirit. lets do it!
s3 needs to pimp the cm9 for sure!
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I'm not entirely sure I will want to put a vanilla or CM on this phone right away... the stock Touchwiz ROM seems to have a lot of nice features.. Unless these can be incorporated into a ROM that is based on CM9 or what-have-you I think I will try running a stock Touchwiz ROM with root access.. I have never used Touchwiz but even if I had I couldn't definitively say I won't like this because it's new to everyone.
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I'm not entirely sure I will want to put a vanilla or CM on this phone right away... the stock Touchwiz ROM seems to have a lot of nice features.. Unless these can be incorporated into a ROM that is based on CM9 or what-have-you I think I will try running a stock Touchwiz ROM with root access.. I have never used Touchwiz but even if I had I couldn't definitively say I won't like this because it's new to everyone.
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You'll be amazed by ideas we folks got during the announcement. ;-)
Believe me, CM9 will be better than TouchWiz once it's done. More details to come in the next days.
(That's the hell of a teaser)
XpLoDWilD said:
You'll be amazed by ideas we folks got during the announcement. ;-)
Believe me, CM9 will be better than TouchWiz once it's done. More details to come in the next days.
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Awesome.
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To each their own.
Thanks for being so sarcastic. I guess things went a bit too fast.
Actually, while the Galaxy S3 will have many great features, they're all software-based. And after looking deeply, there's nothing that prevents us from adding these nice features to an AOSP ROM, for instance CyanogenMod 9.
Hence why, Galaxy S3, once running CyanogenMod 9, will profit from a community effort started recently to bring manufacturers' features to all CM9-enabled devices. This can include actions triggered by motion, and other features so-called "natural".
You can find out more details at http://opendesign.blamesamsung.org/. Details on specific features, as well as the ability for everyone to request this kind of features, will be available on May 10th.
I can only thank once more people that will help Team Hacksung and CyanogenMod getting a Galaxy S III, to help all CyanogenMod 9 devices.
XpLoDWilD said:
You'll be amazed by ideas we folks got during the announcement. ;-)
Believe me, CM9 will be better than TouchWiz once it's done. More details to come in the next days.
(That's the hell of a teaser)
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So true, this was an inspired moment We will give you more details soon. I'm pretty sure you will all like it. But we will need more peeps to help. This won't be done by xplodwild alone. this is a community work. Once done, this will revolution the world of mobile and of every CM9 maintained phone. xplodwild linked the website, it's still under developement, but you learn soon what it is .
And to answer CoNsPiRiSiZe, touchwiz always deceived us. I don't see why it would change now. A proverb says : "You don't have to taste **** to know it taste like ****".
Even if you don't give them one, I'm sure that they will get one themselves as the product will be very popular
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Didn't one of the team members say he would promptly return the SGS3 if he was given one by Samsung as happened with the SGS2?
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Even if you don't give them one, I'm sure that they will get one themselves as the product will be very popular
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Developper are getting tired to work with samsung ****ty community support. Codeworkx already said that he won't buy the device himself.
meranto said:
Didn't one of the team members say he would promptly return the SGS3 if he was given one by Samsung as happened with the SGS2?
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codeworkx said that because he had hard times with SGS2 and bad Samsung support.
It doesn't mean the whole team is in the same mood ;-)
dont leave us gs2 users
any update on your open source kernel?
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Even if you don't give them one, I'm sure that they will get one themselves as the product will be very popular
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I doubt it. CM9 developers stands with Nexus as personal device so they wont spend money on other flagships just to make us happy.
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Didn't one of the team members say he would promptly return the SGS3 if he was given one by Samsung as happened with the SGS2?
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Don't take codeworkx rage attacks too serious. Im pretty sure he will work on CM9 for SGS3.
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dont leave us gs2 users
any update on your open source kernel?
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Nobody is going to leave SGS2. It is a CM9 supported device and will stand like this. Teamhacksung will continue making it better.
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dont leave us gs2 users
any update on your open source kernel?
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Don't worry - As mentioned before, we're working on the Note also
As for the kernel, we were waiting on 3.4 to be "ready". It's now the case, and we started the real work, codeworkx, me, Espjenfo and Entropy all together
Cannot wait to see what u guys have got under your sleeves. My gs2 runs amazingly on cm9 crept for some battery life issues. But thanks a lot for all you've done just for free
I'd help if I could
CM9 on the S3 would be amazing.
Hope there isn't any troubles rooting it like there was on the Note? S2 was simple to do
Doesn't cyanogen work for samsung? It seems like he would get one for free either way.
I was under the impression that teamhacksung is at odds with Samsung
All i see on twitter feeds are disgruntle posts about not having access to the source
Hey i'm Chriss-not an owner of Find 5 but wish i was....
I love Find 5....even it's website lists that it supports XDA,which is like a "Loyal King".
I want to buy it and i 'm trying,i checked out the xda tread and i saw official CM10.1 which really cool but there's nothing else except
AOSP.I mean if you guys can make a some-what stable CM10.1....you guys could easily make more roms like Paranoid,PAC,MIUI would be awesome on 1080p display,and many other roms....more you make better,try out-of-box like firefox os...These things make news and make the device more popular,which brings in more support,donors etc...:good:
So dev who are try hard to fix cm bugs and are stuck build some other roms also ....don't mind the bugs that arise which can be fixed later
I would like to wish the team Best Of Luck! :victory:
Just be patient.
The cm10.1 rom was only released yesterday.:good:
With working and stable CM10.1 and AOSP Roms it's easier to port other Roms that are based on either of them.
I'd much rather have those two up and running in a near perfect state before we get a bunch of people that bricked their phones because they jumped on an alpha of Paranoid Android and they have no clue how to restore them.
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Just be patient.
The cm10.1 rom was only released yesterday.:good:
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Yeah. CM kangs almost never appear until CM is mostly complete for a device, and we didn't release until yesterday.
This device has only had kernel source available for sometime around a month, and isn't exactly widely available. Good development takes time.
FYI, CM went from "developers received the device" to "95% working" in less than two weeks, with the first week of that being research and laying the groundwork for a port. Most of the actual coding was done over the past weekend. Of course, this was only possible due to devices that came before us, like the Xperia Z.
It's amazing how much easier Qualcomms are to work with than Exynos.
Good lord.
Okay, you have two approaches to encourage development chrissmartin.
1) Knock yourself out and build a ROM of your own
2) Donate money to an existing developer who's working on a ROM / kernel... whatever you think is of value to you.
I don't know if you've done either, but short of those two options, please don't be 'that guy'. It's a new device in many respects, as Entropy pointed out. You want a ton of ROM's ASAP...go hop on the Sammy bandwagon.
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Good lord.
Okay, you have two approaches to encourage development chrissmartin.
1) Knock yourself out and build a ROM of your own
2) Donate money to an existing developer who's working on a ROM / kernel... whatever you think is of value to you.
I don't know if you've done either, but short of those two options, please don't be 'that guy'. It's a new device in many respects, as Entropy pointed out. You want a ton of ROM's ASAP...go hop on the Sammy bandwagon.
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Not gonna get that on Exynos BTW.... All of the Exynos4 CM maintainers are barely touching their devices, and so far, not a single person with maintainer experience has expressed interest in the Exynos5-based GS4. (As to Qualcomm-based GS4s - Some CM people are getting them, but myself and the other ex-Teamhacksung guys are going elsewhere.)
Edit: Obviously, other people can pick up the ball and take a crack at the Exynos5 GS4, but so far, I have not encountered anyone with an interest. All of the people with AOSP-on-Exynos experience I've talked to are done with the platform, and expect Exynos5 "Octa" to be even worse than the Exynos4 was. There's always the possibility we'll get a pleasant surprise from Samsung, but I have very little hope given that they completely failed to deliver on their promises made at the Big Android BBQ.
^ very good to know, thanks Entropy!
First of all!
I'm sorry....i thought cm10.1 had been released weeks or months before...so that's why,i asked
Xiaomi themselves have described the Find 5 as " most likely next" and I'd prefer if miui was made by them.
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Xiaomi themselves have described the Find 5 as " most likely next" and I'd prefer if miui was made by them.
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You won't see any discussion of their port here due to their rampant GPL noncompliance.
They're kangers of the worst sort.
I'm sure the ROMs are coming, wait til CM 10.1 is mostly stable, I'm impressed how quickly development is proceeding already.
^^ same. CM came quick! This phone is just barely starting to grab peoples attention. Its a slow start because its not an HTC or a Samsung, or a Sony... or an LG lol. This is their first international phone ever and it's the first time anyone has even heard of OPPO in the mobile world.
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CM10.1 Rocks!
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Things are really starting to flow now, can't wait to try out al the current custom roms
Rule one is to not ask for ETF, and perhaps make a donation.
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I just built Jellybeer, but I haven't got my Find 5 yet so can't test it yet
PAC ROM rocks! Working camera now
I'm very surprised that Samsung have started to officially push out Lollipop to the S5 and OPO has not yet.
Considering the Touchwiz overlay which we all know is heavy and would require loads of work, where as CM12 doesn't have much of a change over stock Lollipop.
I've been using the CM12 nightlies for a few weeks now and they can be used as a daily driver for me, but there are still little bugs that need to be ironed out.
How has Samsung pipped CM to the post? I'm not sure if CM has just been slow or Samsung has picked up it's act.
Patience mate it will come in due course. CM usually take a while to release stable builds. Other devices are still waiting it will come in due course.
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I'm very surprised that Samsung have started to officially push out Lollipop to the S5 and OPO has not yet.
Considering the Touchwiz overlay which we all know is heavy and would require loads of work, where as CM12 doesn't have much of a change over stock Lollipop.
I've been using the CM12 nightlies for a few weeks now and they can be used as a daily driver for me, but there are still little bugs that need to be ironed out.
How has Samsung pipped CM to the post? I'm not sure if CM has just been slow or Samsung has picked up it's act.
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It's not so surprising when u think about the number of developers/programmers in Samsung as a multi-billion company compared to cyanogen. +I think there may have been some deals between Google and Samsung, LG etc so they get the source code sooner before official release. But that's only what think, no evidence backing up this statement.
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I'm very surprised that Samsung have started to officially push out Lollipop to the S5 and OPO has not yet.
Considering the Touchwiz overlay which we all know is heavy and would require loads of work, where as CM12 doesn't have much of a change over stock Lollipop.
I've been using the CM12 nightlies for a few weeks now and they can be used as a daily driver for me, but there are still little bugs that need to be ironed out.
How has Samsung pipped CM to the post? I'm not sure if CM has just been slow or Samsung has picked up it's act.
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How has Samsung beat CM to the chase? Money. Samsung are rolling in cash and they have a ridiculous amount of it to throw at developing the OS for their devices. Don't forget CM is a tiny (miniscule) company. Plus, the major OEM's get early release access to Android releases. You'll get your Lollipop, just be patient.
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I'm very surprised that Samsung have started to officially push out Lollipop to the S5 and OPO has not yet.
Considering the Touchwiz overlay which we all know is heavy and would require loads of work, where as CM12 doesn't have much of a change over stock Lollipop.
I've been using the CM12 nightlies for a few weeks now and they can be used as a daily driver for me, but there are still little bugs that need to be ironed out.
How has Samsung pipped CM to the post? I'm not sure if CM has just been slow or Samsung has picked up it's act.
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Samsung probably got off there ass, they have always received new code from google way in advance of it being released to the public.
When it goes public that's when cm gets it.
Please understand all the variables before doing a shame post
I believe they got the code sooner
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Now shouldn't the One plus and CM get it as soon as other OEMs get it? I mean CM is no more bunch of dev doing this part time. I am still not convinced.
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Now shouldn't the One plus and CM get it as soon as other OEMs get it? I mean CM is no more bunch of dev doing this part time. I am still not convinced.
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Even if they did get it at the same time, CM would still be behind. It's all about money. Think about it, HTC, Samsung, Sony, LG, they all have squillions of dollars and countless employees to sink into their devices. CM? Nope. CM are a tiny (and new) company, with just a fraction of the money and manpower that the big players have. I really don't understand why everyone is so confused about this.
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I really don't understand why everyone is so confused about this.
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Because most consumers have no clue what's going on behind the scenes of these businesses, and ironically this leads them to think they know enough to legitimately criticize them. In America we call them arm-chair quarterbacks. They watch the game on TV the day after it's played completely removed the circumstances of the game, yet somehow they think they know everything and the guy on the field is stupid even though they've never even played the game.
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Even if they did get it at the same time, CM would still be behind. It's all about money. Think about it, HTC, Samsung, Sony, LG, they all have squillions of dollars and countless employees to sink into their devices. CM? Nope. CM are a tiny (and new) company, with just a fraction of the money and manpower that the big players have. I really don't understand why everyone is so confused about this.
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I understand that but the only thing which is kind of icky to me is that CM being the primary OS provider for this phone, should provide the first stable versions for our phone. May be I am not seeing it correctly but looks like everyone gets CM stable releases at the same time. I just got this phone a month so may be I am missing something.
Not complaining or anything, just trying to understand the process.
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Because most consumers have no clue what's going on behind the scenes of these businesses, and ironically this leads them to think they know enough to legitimately criticize them. In America we call them arm-chair quarterbacks. They watch the game on TV the day after it's played completely removed the circumstances of the game, yet somehow they think they know everything and the guy on the field is stupid even though they've never even played the game.
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Not trying to start an argument here. But you do understand that the american football is played for the consumer's money (TV rights, stadium fees, ads etc). So if those arm chair QBs are paying to watch the game, they have a right to complain. If the teams or the players have a problem with it then they can go and play in private where no one will ever say a word.
It is similar situation here. The oneplus strategy was to attract consumers by using CM' OS. So I and others have a right to ask questions. You cannot criticize them and call them names. Go take out your frustration on someone else. You don't like this thread? Don't read it and don't comment on it.
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It is similar situation here.
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You missed the point. Paying to watch something makes nobody an expert or even knowledgeable about the matter. One is free to complain about the phone one bought, but that gives no understanding about what's going on in the offices of OnePlus or CyanogenMod, or the processes involved in the two of them outing a ROM compared to Samsung.
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You missed the point. Paying to watch something makes nobody an expert or even knowledgeable about the matter. One is free to complain about the phone one bought, but that gives no understanding about what's going on in the offices of OnePlus or CyanogenMod, or the processes involved in the two of them outing a ROM compared to Samsung.
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Exactly and that is what being discuss here. Some people like me are not sure about the things which goes in CM/One Plus office and we are confused on why CM can't get it out sooner then other big OEMs. Small company or not, they are getting paid.
No one goes complaining directly to the players or the teams (or companies in this case). America is a free country and people like you are trying to suppress the freedom of speech. I am going to sit here and ask million questions and you cannot stop me. Exactly like I can't stop you from replying to my messages .
If you want to contribute to answering then the question, then please do. If not then please stop creating arguments here.
Cyanogenmod have releases for a boat load of different phones with different hardware, they get the lollipop source as it's released to the public and they're are a very small company. Unlike Samsung, HTC, LG and Sony which have many developers and early access to the android source code so they can develop the next android version with their respective skin on top. If you want to complain about cyanogenmod, feel free to do so just know they're a small niche operating system compared to the big OEM's. But you can take a look at cyanogenmod's Gerrit and see they're working hard on the CM12 branch, that's something you can't see with the big OEM's
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Exactly and that is what being discuss here. Some people like me are not sure about the things which goes in CM/One Plus office and we are confused on why CM can't get it out sooner then other big OEMs. Small company or not, they are getting paid.
No one goes complaining directly to the players or the teams (or companies in this case). America is a free country and people like you are trying to suppress the freedom of speech. I am going to sit here and ask million questions and you cannot stop me. Exactly like I can't stop you from replying to my messages .
If you want to contribute to answering then the question, then please do. If not then please stop creating arguments here.
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So if I don't say what you want to hear, I just stop posting... I get it now. I guess I misunderstood what freedom of speech was before. :silly:
No point.
Why care about a Galaxy Sx getting lollipop before? It sucks anyway...:silly:
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I'm very surprised that Samsung have started to officially push out Lollipop to the S5 and OPO has not yet.
Considering the Touchwiz overlay which we all know is heavy and would require loads of work, where as CM12 doesn't have much of a change over stock Lollipop.
I've been using the CM12 nightlies for a few weeks now and they can be used as a daily driver for me, but there are still little bugs that need to be ironed out.
How has Samsung pipped CM to the post? I'm not sure if CM has just been slow or Samsung has picked up it's act.
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You forgot something, it's only officially available to the S5 in... Poland. Otherwise you still would have to root/ROM the Lollipop update onto the S5 no differently than a CM12 nightly and then it will only work on the international version. For the vast majority of S5 users they won't see an official OTA update for months, well after CM has delivered Lollipop to the OPO. Once it's made available to the US carriers expect massive delays again so they can 'certify' the ROM before pushing it out. If you really think that the extremely limited, country specific, release 'beat' CM to Lollipop you either have never played in the Android world or you have massively misplaced expectations.
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Samsung probably got off there ass, they have always received new code from google way in advance of it being released to the public.
When it goes public that's when cm gets it.
Please understand all the variables before doing a shame post
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Could you please provide a source to show Samsung get the code early?
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You forgot something, it's only officially available to the S5 in... Poland. Otherwise you still would have to root/ROM the Lollipop update onto the S5 no differently than a CM12 nightly and then it will only work on the international version. For the vast majority of S5 users they won't see an official OTA update for months, well after CM has delivered Lollipop to the OPO. Once it's made available to the US carriers expect massive delays again so they can 'certify' the ROM before pushing it out. If you really think that the extremely limited, country specific, release 'beat' CM to Lollipop you either have never played in the Android world or you have massively misplaced expectations.
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So you can root and anyone with a European S5 can get a genuine released Lollipop. At the moment we are flashing a pre nightly version of an aftermarket ROM, not even a nightly, let alone anywhere close to an official CM12S.
Sure Samsung have money and they should need it to adapt TouchWiz, but this is basically a stock Lollipop we are waiting for.
I've yet to see anyone quote a reliable source about Samsung getting the code early, but if the do then that would obviously be a good reason for CM appearing slow.
CM are slow look into previous CM releases go back to when Kit Kat was released, or Jelly Bean etc. CM support a number of devices each with different drivers and such CM access the code once it's released to public as mentioned on many posts here. Now that's CM. If OPO wanted to I assume they could release an AOSP version of Lollipop if they wish to like how they did with Kit Kat. CM won't rush and roll out a semi working CM12S for the sake of it we haven't even got official nightlies yet. We are still within the 90 day promise so there's plenty of time left still.
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So you can root and anyone with a European S5 can get a genuine released Lollipop. At the moment we are flashing a pre nightly version of an aftermarket ROM, not even a nightly, let alone anywhere close to an official CM12S.
Sure Samsung have money and they should need it to adapt TouchWiz, but this is basically a stock Lollipop we are waiting for.
I've yet to see anyone quote a reliable source about Samsung getting the code early, but if the do then that would obviously be a good reason for CM appearing slow.
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It doesn't matter even an iota that it's stock Android that we're waiting for. That doesn't make it any less work to get it working for a device. You should look into exactly what is involved in getting a new version of Android running on any non-Nexus device, because clearly you're under the false impression that it's a sinch to do, which it most definitely is not. This is all about money and resources.
Just saw it was released, who's porting it to the nexus 6? Sucks PA is dead for now but I'm sure oxygen will be good
Isn't oxy os just aosp with a few minor tweaks ?
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Yes it is but none the less always nice to see new things. And arnt all Roms a modified aosp? Cm,omni
I would love to see a port! And it bumped to 5.1 woohoo!
Not open source or for this device so pretty unlikely
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Not open source or for this device so pretty unlikely
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How can you not open source android? Especially based off Google? Is that even legal?
Frozt said:
How can you not open source android? Especially based off Google? Is that even legal?
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Ever heard of touchwiz, sense, blur, etc?
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How can you not open source android? Especially based off Google? Is that even legal?
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Android is open source yes however the skins, customizations and frameworks companies do to it are not.
Is there much of a need for a pott of this anyway? Its got less features than cyanogen nightlies have atm and is pretty much a very basic ROM as it stands atm. Most of the things CM12s didn't even make it over to oxygen (yet)
I do hope the PA guys can now get a new build out for everyone else soon. The gerrit had a a couple of weeks of no movement there.
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Android is open source yes however the skins, customizations and frameworks companies do to it are not.
Is there much of a need for a pott of this anyway? Its got less features than cyanogen nightlies have atm and is pretty much a very basic ROM as it stands atm. Most of the things CM12s didn't even make it over to oxygen (yet)
I do hope the PA guys can now get a new build out for everyone else soon. The gerrit had a a couple of weeks of no movement there.
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That's because they got pissed and they pulled out of XDA, I'm sure they're taking a long break from PA
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That's because they got pissed and they pulled out of XDA, I'm sure they're taking a long break from PA
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what are they pissed of? so far PA is doing quite well then suddenly development stopped from 5.0 onwards.
Looks very AOSP to me now, only a few minor tweaks.
hope someone could port this!
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what are they pissed of? so far PA is doing quite well then suddenly development stopped from 5.0 onwards.
Looks very AOSP to me now, only a few minor tweaks.
hope someone could port this!
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I don't know anything about this particular situation but my read is that they got an actual paying job to make Oxygen so PA got put on the back burner. If they got hit by some flank on XDA over some issues it would further drive them into paid work vs unpaid as PA is a very non-funded project. I doubt we'll see a port of this. The big push from OnePlus with going with there own custom OS was some mix of butthurt about cyanogen and the ability to further control the OS/have unique features. I am also very certain that there job contract will exclude them from being able to 'port' features from OxygenOS back into PA or some other rom.
There is literally nothing unique to OxygenOS this early in the game. It's AOSP with QS customizations and the gestures from ColorOS.
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Ever heard of touchwiz, sense, blur, etc?
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Aren't those skins?
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Aren't those skins?
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Same as OxygenOS, yes
My question is, do they plan on releasing the code for the open source community? if not will all the trolls and flamers who said cygn was super evil for not releasing source to CM11S, do the same here? Of course not because hating CM is cool. I lost lot of respect for the PA devs after their continued CM bashing over the last few months, continually pointing out how CM11S source was never released, yet it will be the same with oxygenos.
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My question is, do they plan on releasing the code for the open source community? if not will all the trolls and flamers who said cygn was super evil for not releasing source to CM11S, do the same here? Of course not because hating CM is cool. I lost lot of respect for the PA devs after their continued CM bashing over the last few months, continually pointing out how CM11S source was never released, yet it will be the same with oxygenos.
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They already said they won't I believe.
Circaflex said:
My question is, do they plan on releasing the code for the open source community? if not will all the trolls and flamers who said cygn was super evil for not releasing source to CM11S, do the same here? Of course not because hating CM is cool. I lost lot of respect for the PA devs after their continued CM bashing over the last few months, continually pointing out how CM11S source was never released, yet it will be the same with oxygenos.
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I don't see a reason why they would release anything other than finished builds at this point.
8Fishes said:
I don't see a reason why they would release anything other than finished builds at this point.
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because android is open and their devs preached how cyanogen was breaking the mold of open android, yet they do the exact same?
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because android is open and their devs preached how cyanogen was breaking the mold of open android, yet they do the exact same?
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They just have no business sense. Now that they're getting paid to code, they understand they don't own the code they produce, the people that pay them for their work own it. Same thing with Cyanogen, they can't get investors to put money into software that is publicly published or it isn't worth anything. Problem with that situation is that a lot of CM commits were made by the community not solely by the guys who started it.
joshm.1219 said:
They just have no business sense. Now that they're getting paid to code, they understand they don't own the code they produce, the people that pay them for their work own it. Same thing with Cyanogen, they can't get investors to put money into software that is publicly published or it isn't worth anything. Problem with that situation is that a lot of CM commits were made by the community not solely by the guys who started it.
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trust me, i agree with what you just said. I have preached that to the zealots who wanted to flame cyanogen, like you said it wasnt cyanogens code to share because of the deal with one plus. No one seemed to understand that.
I am seeing that i9505 got 3 marshmallow roms from different developers. Whats up with i9500 developers, are they working on something or is everyone sleeping :laugh:
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I am seeing that i9505 got 3 marshmallow roms from different developers. Whats up with i9500 developers, are they working on something or is everyone sleeping :laugh:
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EXACTLY!!! And one of the devs has done it albeit with major bugs but AFAIK he has left the 9500 development without even sharing the link!! And last year we got the HUGE update (Lollipop) in less than a month, by the end of Nov. However now, it's more thn 2 months M has been released and altough it's a relatively small update compared to L, nobody has done it. I hope the devs will soon turn off their hibernation mode and get on track. We know this isn't their job, but they can do it! Our devs are the best!!
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I am seeing that i9505 got 3 marshmallow roms from different developers. Whats up with i9500 developers, are they working on something or is everyone sleeping :laugh:
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Azar_98 said:
EXACTLY!!! And one of the devs has done it albeit with major bugs but AFAIK he has left the 9500 development without even sharing the link!! And last year we got the HUGE update (Lollipop) in less than a month, by the end of Nov. However now, it's more thn 2 months M has been released and altough it's a relatively small update compared to L, nobody has done it. I hope the devs will soon turn off their hibernation mode and get on track. We know this isn't their job, but they can do it! Our devs are the best!!
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It's because you got a ****ty device with a ****ty chip and no documentation on the chip. Same story with the S5, S6, S6edge etc. Exynos sucks. So it's 10 times harder to develop a rom for you device.
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It's because you got a ****ty device with a ****ty chip and no documentation on the chip. Same story with the S5, S6, S6edge etc. Exynos sucks. So it's 10 times harder to develop a rom for you device.
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I know it is much harder and I got a $#itty device, but if I knew these stuff back then, I'd rather die than get 9500. However, done is done, you can't get back infortunately :crying:
But the fact that it is already partially developed is burning me cause it's not being released to the public. Furthermore, N3 exy also has CM13 and released to the public even though it has a slight laggy touch input bug
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I know it is much harder and I got a $#itty device, but if I knew these stuff back then, I'd rather die than get 9500. However, done is done, you can't get back infortunately :crying:
But the fact that it is already partially developed is burning me cause it's not being released to the public. Furthermore, N3 exy also has CM13 and released to the public even though it has a slight laggy touch input bug
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There is no point at all releasing a rom that is far from usable. But you just have to be patient. There probably will be a working version eventually:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63796113&postcount=1858
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There is no point at all releasing a rom that is far from usable. But you just have to be patient. There probably will be a working version eventually:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63796113&postcount=1858
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Thanks man! Just contacted him btw and asked if he could give me a link to download it.
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It isn't even released yet. You can track GearCM's GitHub and see what changes are made for our device-tree, rather than request a blind build.
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