Hi!
Bought this i9506 yesterday, after getting tired of LG Optimus 4X HD. Wanted Full HD, and a black phone (my LG was white).
Got a bit dissapointed when i saw there's no custom ROMS for this phone yet though.. After all, this is taking over for the old S4 (i9505), at least here in Norway.
What happens if i try to flash a i9505 rom? Will it just say that it's not compatible? Haven't dared to try yet..
It's allready been rooted with the Philz Touch CWM.
faabak
I am pretty sure that the phone will not boot. The chipset is diffent and something else that i dont know
Rechargelegend said:
faabak
I am pretty sure that the phone will not boot. The chipset is diffent and something else that i dont know
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Yeah, i guess you're right! SnapDragon 600 in the i9505 vs. 800 in the i9506..
But also, i think the manifest is beeing checked by CWM to check if the rom is the right one..
It's a shame! On my Optimus 4X HD i were hasseling around with building CM11-roms from github/P880-Dev, but since the camera did not work, i just bought this.. Now i guess i have to look more into developing, and see if i can convert a Xperia Z1 ROM to this one!
I tried and Odin fails.It says something about the signature.It's like trying to flash i9505g rom on i9505 wich have the same SoC.It's not possible.
aresbv2000 said:
I tried and Odin fails.It says something about the signature.It's like trying to flash i9505g rom on i9505 wich have the same SoC.It's not possible.
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Yeah, i can see the signature-problem.. Maybe we could just change the signature-files on a i9506g-rom!
That would be nice! But i think the Note 3 is more similar to the i9506. So it would be much easier to port a rom from that. I have no magic dev skills but my phone is ready for testing.
It won't work.
Hardware is completely different.
I9506 is similar to I9505 the same as similar to I9500
Don't look at Qualcomm Snapdragon name. SD600 and SD800 are different very much.
Don't waste your time for this. You will only get results varying from "can't boot" to "brick".
sorg.
Thats good to know! Thought they very almost the same.
sorg said:
It won't work.
Hardware is completely different.
I9506 is similar to I9505 the same as similar to I9500
Don't look at Qualcomm Snapdragon name. SD600 and SD800 are different very much.
Don't waste your time for this. You will only get results varying from "can't boot" to "brick".
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Yeah, but perhaps if we get a CM for Note 3, that we can modify this instead..?
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Yeah, but perhaps if we get a CM for Note 3, that we can modify this instead..?
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yep. CM from Note 3 can have good compatibility. But first you need is to get Kernel source code of I9506 and Note 3. Then you will need to transfer CM related changes from Note 3 kernel to I9506 kernel.
After that may be you will be able to boot CM. Not sure. I never worked with CM sources.
I wonder does Samsung contain anything device specific in the system portion of the image? The SD600/800 drivers would be in the kernel/boot portion no? Certainly on normal Linux you can transplant the hardware and only need to rebuild the kernel.
sorg said:
It won't work.
Hardware is completely different.
I9506 is similar to I9505 the same as similar to I9500
Don't look at Qualcomm Snapdragon name. SD600 and SD800 are different very much.
Don't waste your time for this. You will only get results varying from "can't boot" to "brick".
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fatherjack360 said:
I wonder does Samsung contain anything device specific in the system portion of the image? The SD600/800 drivers would be in the kernel/boot portion no? Certainly on normal Linux you can transplant the hardware and only need to rebuild the kernel.
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There are many device specific files in system image. There are many user-space device drivers. Also, Samsung doesn't make any HAL (hardware abstraction level) in their ROMs. Even devices with the same CPU have many incompatibilities in ROMs. For example RIL from Note 3 with SD800 doesn't work in E330S ROM, producing endless reboot cycles, although modem part of SD800 is inside SoC (unlike other SoCs).
Ah, better example: system image with Android 4.3 from I9506 doesn't fully work in E330S phone (camera doesn't work), although 4.2 system image worked fine. It's because development of these two models went by separate ways by (probably) separate development teams. I had to take some parts of i9506 kernel source to make E330S kernel compatible with I9506 system image.
I've try to flash the Note 3 Omega rom the phone works. The wifi and bluetooth do not turn on and the cellular network intermittent disconnect so I think if we can flash on a customized rom for note 3 that integrates libraries and drivers for the gt-i9506 it would be a good start.
/!\ Do not try to repeat what I did, my phone not at all want to connect to the cellular network even after reflash stock rom 4.3 with odin, phone boot, logo becomes dark we feel small vibration indicates that the boot is over and it stops there, after a while a message "system is not responding ..." then reboot. When I reflash with odin there is no error message, this is what is called playing with fire
Well, we have official Samsung sources for 4.3 (I9506XXUBML5).
Someone who have time to learn how to modify it with root and then compiling it would be easier task than try to modify other phones rom's.
Damn, I just baught this phone, I'm picking it up tomorrow.. Quite a bummer not to find any CM ROM's for it. Wellwell, maybe touchwiz will be fine with the good specs the phone has. I just love cyanogen so much
You guys think it will come eventually?
aussieglis said:
Damn, I just baught this phone, I'm picking it up tomorrow.. Quite a bummer not to find any CM ROM's for it. Wellwell, maybe touchwiz will be fine with the good specs the phone has. I just love cyanogen so much
You guys think it will come eventually?
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Sure hope so, i did the same "mistake" as you, thinking there's NO way there isn't any CM for this phone.. I think it's the last phone i would'nt have checked first before i bought it, but still, i should have!
faabak said:
Sure hope so, i did the same "mistake" as you, thinking there's NO way there isn't any CM for this phone.. I think it's the last phone i would'nt have checked first before i bought it, but still, i should have!
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Yeah me too. Thank god it's sooo fast and smooth! I hate all the bloatware tho, I think I will root it in a few weeks to remove most of it.
fouad13fr said:
I've try to flash the Note 3 Omega rom the phone works. The wifi and bluetooth do not turn on and the cellular network intermittent disconnect so I think if we can flash on a customized rom for note 3 that integrates libraries and drivers for the gt-i9506 it would be a good start.
/!\ Do not try to repeat what I did, my phone not at all want to connect to the cellular network even after reflash stock rom 4.3 with odin, phone boot, logo becomes dark we feel small vibration indicates that the boot is over and it stops there, after a while a message "system is not responding ..." then reboot. When I reflash with odin there is no error message, this is what is called playing with fire
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sorry to hear that your phone cannot boot... there is a price for trying and development anyway. you may get it fixed when there is compatible rom available
sorg said:
There are many device specific files in system image. There are many user-space device drivers. Also, Samsung doesn't make any HAL (hardware abstraction level) in their ROMs. Even devices with the same CPU have many incompatibilities in ROMs. For example RIL from Note 3 with SD800 doesn't work in E330S ROM, producing endless reboot cycles, although modem part of SD800 is inside SoC (unlike other SoCs).
Ah, better example: system image with Android 4.3 from I9506 doesn't fully work in E330S phone (camera doesn't work), although 4.2 system image worked fine. It's because development of these two models went by separate ways by (probably) separate development teams. I had to take some parts of i9506 kernel source to make E330S kernel compatible with I9506 system image.
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How can you make the E330S kernel work with i9506's 4.3 rom?
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How can you make the E330S kernel work with i9506's 4.3 rom?
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basically, kernels from E330S and I9506 are almost the same. On 4.3 ROM there is difference in Camera interface, so E330S kernel won't work with I9506 system image. But you can use source code from i9506 to compile kernel for E330S device.
Starting from 4.3, both i9506 and E330S use KNOX bootloader, thus you may expect some side effects after swapping kernel/system images. For best result i recommend to clean both kernel and system from KNOX.
I still use old 4.2.2 bootloader which is not infected by knox. With this bootloader you cannot use any stock 4.3 kernel. You have to compile kernel without TIMA authentification to be able to boot it with 4.2.2 bootloader.
Thus, i cannot tell you much info about stock kernels from 4.3 ROMs. Some users report about non-working WiFi if you flash stock i9506 kernel on E330S device. But you may flash kernel, system and cache from i9506 to E330S - it will boot at least.
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im buying the pro version today, and i want to know the compatibility of roms with this device. (diferent snapdragon cpu version)
did any1 try to flash the new device with the custom roms from the original development section?
I just wish to have miui on it
cnv17 said:
im buying the pro version today, and i want to know the compatibility of roms with this device. (diferent snapdragon cpu version)
did any1 try to flash the new device with the custom roms from the original development section?
I just wish to have miui on it
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+1 here
u8800pro also have BCM4329 wifi solution instead of qualcomm libra one
I have one. I tryed to flash it with official rom and I bricked it. It was my fault. Now I can't recover it. Any suggestions? In every mode it vibrates and nothing happens. Purple screen doesn't work, recovery mode doesn't work, flashing mode doesn't work.
dexxxterito said:
Purple screen doesn't work.
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without pink mode u f***ed up
dexxxterito said:
I have one. I tryed to flash it with official rom and I bricked it. It was my fault. Now I can't recover it. Any suggestions? In every mode it vibrates and nothing happens. Purple screen doesn't work, recovery mode doesn't work, flashing mode doesn't work.
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i had bricked mine also. i live in russia but im not russian hardly i could find a tech service coz i cant speak russian. they are going to run jtag on my phone they were asking for rom or something like that. finally i have found a u8800 pro rom on xda. tomorrow i'll se what will happen. and i can share all my experince with it
edit: the guy who was going to run jtag on my phone in moscow now and he'll be back only on 11th of december.. unfortunatelly i'll wait or i'll try to contact with an official service center in other cities. the problem is i can not find any official service center even in other cities
I can access to the pink screen, but i don't have the image folder... can somebody help me?? i have a big problem if i cant fix it.. it reboots every 80 seconds with the unfinished root image file.. if someone can give me the original one for 2.3.5 pleeeeaaaseee send i to [email protected] i really need it, im having a hard time trying to fix it.. help..!
You need different ROMs compared to u8800, as some people discovered (rather painfully). So far, there are 4 ROM options. Stock ROM options include the stock 2.2, the stock 2.3 (no problems as with the 2.3 for the u8800), however they both suck performance wise.
Then there's a MIUI port which I couldn't even get to install on my device and finally comes cyanogenmod which is the best option so far and the one I'd recommend (you will see a tremendous difference in the performance of the UI).
Hi all.
I've rooted my phone and now want to install another ROM on it but am unsure as to what is safe to use. I have attached a screen shot showing the hardware specs of my phone. What confuses me is that the processor is different to some of the others used in the I9505. Am I ok to use something like the cyanogen mod for the i9505 LTE?
My recovery menu is also different to what I have found in flashing guides. I have attached the pic with that as well.
Any help that anyone can give would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Dean.
Anyone at all?
I'm new here so don't fully take my word for it...
But your specs seem normal. I have the same processor, and had the same stock recovery menu as you. Idk about cyanogen mod but I've flashed several TW based roms built for the i9505 and it's been fine. I'm pretty sure you'd be sweet using something made for the i9505.
Hi there,
I have some serious problems here. I used a Galaxy S2 for two years now and since "day one" I got my phones rooted and flashed custom roms. You could say I am some kind of a flashoholic - need to have the best, newest, fastest all the time. For one month now I have got a new Galaxy S4. Sounded like a good decision as I'm using it most of the time for internet and taking photos.
But till today, I am unsatisfied. My Galaxy S2 went from "Checkrom Revolution" to "Omega" and then all the updates from "Cyanogen 9" to 10.1-RC3 (not sure if the versions are correct, just call it the latest 4.2.2 version). For a month now I'm flashing myself through the whole forum, but none of the roms seem to work as flawless as my Cyanogen was on my S2. Some problmes I discovered (I wont mention which problem occured on which ROM as I simply can't remember):
- unstable WLAN
- bad signal for 3G/H+/4G
- bad signal for phone (S2 had 3 of 4 bars while the S4 only gets 1 to 2 of 4 bars at my home)
- bad battery lifetime (for example: newly flashed "Phoenix Rom" gave me 2 or 3 full days of standby (WLAN on all the time), while "Echoe Rom v9" seems to drain it like hell (loosing 30% within 3 hours ?!?)
- crashing initialization setup (at the beginning, where you setup WiFi, Google and device name and stuff)
- no Samsung Cam (well, its not a bug, but I love the features like slow-motion videos and the image burst mode to select the best one afterwards. So when I realized that only TW roms have the samsung cam, I only tried those roms)
- Samsung Cam freezes in 9 of 10 cases when I try to catch a slow-motion video.
- and my newest addition: flashed a new rom yesterday, flashed the newest modem with odin afterwards (I9505XXUEMK9), then flashed the WiFi-Fixed-Version, and since then, I have no sound at all. All volume levels are maxed but I get no single beep from it
I'm sick of it. I just want a modem which gives best signal quality and a ROM with a flawless working Samsung Cam. Do you have any ideas?
Going to flash some rooted stock-rom with an older modem now and try to get my sound back...
Modem is dependable from your location. You hava to test it out.
My favourite Roms for battery life and everything working fine are:
Echoerom newest Builds
Google Edition 4.2.2 and 4.3 by Jamal.
I also testes lots of Roms, but many got lags or other problems which i didn't have in the Roms i told you
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OmegaRom is awesome! Wlan/Hsdpa/et cetera all working perfect, plus the integrated xposed installer app makes it really comfortable. plus, my antutu benchmarks compared to stock mh5 rom went up by 2000 points
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Well... to late...
Found out (after the flash) that this stock fw got this knox bullsh!t in it.... damn. As long as I can't downgrade the bootloader (oder flash roms + root without setting 0x1) I guess I will have to stay on stock samsung roms... -.-"
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Well... to late...
Found out (after the flash) that this stock fw got this knox bullsh!t in it.... damn. As long as I can't downgrade the bootloader (oder flash roms + root without setting 0x1) I guess I will have to stay on stock samsung roms... -.-"
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I was in the same boat as you, but I really couldn't take the stock TW lag anymore. So I decided to root and flash a custom rom knowing the it would set 0x1..besides, there probably isn't going to be a fix for knox anytime soon.
A difficult decision.
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Hi there,
I have some serious problems here. I used a Galaxy S2 for two years now and since "day one" I got my phones rooted and flashed custom roms. You could say I am some kind of a flashoholic - need to have the best, newest, fastest all the time. For one month now I have got a new Galaxy S4. Sounded like a good decision as I'm using it most of the time for internet and taking photos.
But till today, I am unsatisfied. My Galaxy S2 went from "Checkrom Revolution" to "Omega" and then all the updates from "Cyanogen 9" to 10.1-RC3 (not sure if the versions are correct, just call it the latest 4.2.2 version). For a month now I'm flashing myself through the whole forum, but none of the roms seem to work as flawless as my Cyanogen was on my S2. Some problmes I discovered (I wont mention which problem occured on which ROM as I simply can't remember):
- unstable WLAN
- bad signal for 3G/H+/4G
- bad signal for phone (S2 had 3 of 4 bars while the S4 only gets 1 to 2 of 4 bars at my home)
- bad battery lifetime (for example: newly flashed "Phoenix Rom" gave me 2 or 3 full days of standby (WLAN on all the time), while "Echoe Rom v9" seems to drain it like hell (loosing 30% within 3 hours ?!?)
- crashing initialization setup (at the beginning, where you setup WiFi, Google and device name and stuff)
- no Samsung Cam (well, its not a bug, but I love the features like slow-motion videos and the image burst mode to select the best one afterwards. So when I realized that only TW roms have the samsung cam, I only tried those roms)
- Samsung Cam freezes in 9 of 10 cases when I try to catch a slow-motion video.
- and my newest addition: flashed a new rom yesterday, flashed the newest modem with odin afterwards (I9505XXUEMK9), then flashed the WiFi-Fixed-Version, and since then, I have no sound at all. All volume levels are maxed but I get no single beep from it
I'm sick of it. I just want a modem which gives best signal quality and a ROM with a flawless working Samsung Cam. Do you have any ideas?
Going to flash some rooted stock-rom with an older modem now and try to get my sound back...
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Flash back to original rom - Maybe you can try Xposed framework and do all the custom stuff you get on other roms. -
You should try all roms , but my experience each rom has one strong point and one weak point.
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Well... to late...
Found out (after the flash) that this stock fw got this knox bullsh!t in it.... damn. As long as I can't downgrade the bootloader (oder flash roms + root without setting 0x1) I guess I will have to stay on stock samsung roms... -.-"
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I was in the same boat as you, but I really couldn't take the stock TW lag anymore. So I decided to root and flash a custom rom knowing the it would set 0x1..besides, there probably isn't going to be a fix for knox anytime soon.
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After I found out that this knox 0x1 is just doing the same thing as Sonys "go to this page to get a code to unlock the bootloader" - by which I mean, it tells the developer that you played with their software; and what I have done on several phones by now - I come to the conclusion, that knox 0x1 won't really bother me.
You are so right. This default rom is really... well... bad. It feels slow and I miss my root Well, loading some roms now.
As the cam is most important for me (and for the roms I tested it works best / most stable on Samsung Stock), I will flash one rom after another, try the slow-mo-cam, and if it won't work, I flash the next one.
So I've recently rooted and installed a custom rom on my phone for the first time with success. My phone is the T-Mobile Galaxy S3 N900T. I'm running C-Rom-KK-v7.1-20140622 which is based on 4.4.4 and it's great. I've been trying to find a custom kernel that I can load onto it to help increase the battery life, hence why I heard LK was really good for that, unfortunately every time I flash the kernel it just reboots to a black screen. The LED buttons will sometimes light up, but nothing else happens, and I'm forced to wipe and reinstall c-rom. I'm really looking forward to getting a custom kernel to work and any help would be appreciated.
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So I've recently rooted and installed a custom rom on my phone for the first time with success. My phone is the T-Mobile Galaxy S3 N900T. I'm running C-Rom-KK-v7.1-20140622 which is based on 4.4.4 and it's great. I've been trying to find a custom kernel that I can load onto it to help increase the battery life, hence why I heard LK was really good for that, unfortunately every time I flash the kernel it just reboots to a black screen. The LED buttons will sometimes light up, but nothing else happens, and I'm forced to wipe and reinstall c-rom. I'm really looking forward to getting a custom kernel to work and any help would be appreciated.
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Been a while since I scanned the N3 forum however, check that the ROM is compatible with the Kernel and If the Kernel does indeed run on the 900T - when I had my N3 T-Mo users used to have to flash a fix to boot N9005 kernels.
It seems like these two models are very very similar, and I have seen threads where people want to install i9505 roms on i9515, but what about the other way around? There are no published roms for the i9505 in my country, but there are roms for i9515. Will I brick the phone if I install an i9515 rom on my i9505?
Any ideas, anyone?
Thanks!
Where have you found roms for i9515? Devs are still working to port cm11, there is no custom rom available for i9515 (value edition)... As far as I know
gibihr said:
Where have you found roms for i9515? Devs are still working to port cm11, there is no custom rom available for i9515 (value edition)... As far as I know
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I haven't been looking for custom roms from i9515. I was going to put the stock i9515 rom for my country (from sammobile) on my i9505 because there are no i9505 roms designed for here. I was hoping that would help solve some modem and gps problems that I've been having. Maybe having a rom that is designed for here would solve the issue.
The thing is that i9515 has different WiFi and Bluetooth modules... I don't think it would work, it would probably work partially
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The thing is that i9515 has different WiFi and Bluetooth modules... I don't think it would work, it would probably work partially
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Hm. So the rom would load, but it's not really close enough to run cleanly, it sounds like. Different WiFi and Bluetooth is enough to call it "Value Edition"? There aren't enough different models and sub-models of the Galaxy line out there, they had to tweak radios just to make another one? Sometimes (many times) I just don't understand their logic.
Any other differences to note that you know of?
Yes... That the value edition has no development... I had a i9505 before, (now deep in the sea, rest in peace) now it seems to be a bit smoother, WiFi is more stable... But maybe just because it's a new device... The rest is exactly the same to me...
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Yes... That the value edition has no development... I had a i9505 before, (now deep in the sea, rest in peace) now it seems to be a bit smoother, WiFi is more stable... But maybe just because it's a new device... The rest is exactly the same to me...
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Maybe I should just break down and take it to the Samsung repair center and see what they can do with the GPS, then. Unless you have any ideas...? The problem (which I posted elsewhere looking for assistance) is that only if I disconnect/reconnect the GPS antenna, then the GPS works well for about a day. Then it goes dead until I disconnect/reconnect the antenna again. When it works, it's great. But I can't keep that up. I need to find a fix or get rid of the phone. (Maybe move to the OnePlus. My son just got one and he's very happy with it.)
Have you already tried restoring Phone with Factory reset etc? No other i9505 works?
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Just a final followup to close the thread - I wound up doing a total system clean wipe - delete dalvik, cache, system, data - everything, and then did a clean install of Optimized CM 12.1 (custom ROM here on the board), and everything sprang back to life. So there evidently were no hardware issues and now the phone works as it should, GPS locks in quickly, etc. No need to dump it and replace it. Happy Ending.
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It seems like these two models are very very similar, and I have seen threads where people want to install i9505 roms on i9515, but what about the other way around? There are no published roms for the i9505 in my country, but there are roms for i9515. Will I brick the phone if I install an i9515 rom on my i9505?
Any ideas, anyone?
Thanks!
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No it isn't possible!
No, dont try this ?
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i9505 sim removed real fix
I have found the permenant fix underneath the sim/sd module there is a tiny ic Labeled KML05 some say reflowing the connector works but its cause its so close to the actual ic thats the reason it worked now there is 2 ways with a tooth pick apply the tinyest amount of flux around the chip and with a hot air reflow gun using lowest air and 300c keep it moving in circles around 1.5cm above the ic for a minute time yourself try the phone out if it dont work it needs replacing £2.99 on ebay U203 ic i9505 follow same procedure to remove and refit
I just newly registered so wont allow me to post the picture of the ic so message me or email me [email protected]