Related
Hey guys,
I want to root to use V4A and some root apps but I have a question.
Shall I root now or wait for 4.4 and then root?
Because when I root now I need to do alot of things to be able to update to 4.4, right?
Thanks in advance.
kpieters5 said:
Hey guys,
I want to root to use V4A and some root apps but I have a question.
Shall I root now or wait for 4.4 and then root?
Because when I root now I need to do alot of things to be able to update to 4.4, right?
Thanks in advance.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think you should wait.. The Big month has arrived..
you can root it now,its not that hectic or hard to go back to stock..
Press thanks if I helped you..
kpieters5 said:
Hey guys,
I want to root to use V4A and some root apps but I have a question.
Shall I root now or wait for 4.4 and then root?
Because when I root now I need to do alot of things to be able to update to 4.4, right?
Thanks in advance.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You don't necessarily need to do a lot of things to un-root after you root. Are you familiar with flashing factory images? Right when 4.4 comes out, Google should release the 4.4 factory image for the Nexus 4. You should be able to grab the images and flash them the same day they announce 4.4, whereas if you want to grab the OTA update for 4.4 (which you might have trouble grabbing if you're rooted), you might have to wait a week or so. Here are some helpful links:
Helpful guide to flash factory images
Obligatory root guide; great as a reference
I would recommend getting comfortable with adb and fastboot before flashing, well, anything. I know in the perfect world that would be possible, but most people want root and just want it done without fully understanding what's going on. If you follow the above guides line for line, you should be ok. Another helpful tip: no matter what, as long as you can get into the bootloader, your phone is not bricked and can fully be fixed.
All of that said, if you can wait, then I'd say wait. The announcement should be within the next few weeks.
Johmama said:
You don't necessarily need to do a lot of things to un-root after you root. Are you familiar with flashing factory images? Right when 4.4 comes out, Google should release the 4.4 factory image for the Nexus 4. You should be able to grab the images and flash them the same day they announce 4.4, whereas if you want to grab the OTA update for 4.4 (which you might have trouble grabbing if you're rooted), you might have to wait a week or so. Here are some helpful links:
Helpful guide to flash factory images
Obligatory root guide; great as a reference
I would recommend getting comfortable with adb and fastboot before flashing, well, anything. I know in the perfect world that would be possible, but most people want root and just want it done without fully understanding what's going on. If you follow the above guides line for line, you should be ok. Another helpful tip: no matter what, as long as you can get into the bootloader, your phone is not bricked and can fully be fixed.
All of that said, if you can wait, then I'd say wait. The announcement should be within the next few weeks.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thank you very much for the links and the info!
Luckly, im pretty handy with adb/rooting and stuff like that, but I still have a question though.
If I root now and remain stock(no custom rom and kernel) will unrooting and flashing stock recovery trough ADB make me able to install OTA update of 4.4 without wipe?
Thanks again!
As far as I've known, a rooted Android phone can safely receive an update as long as you don't change things like the kernel, custom rom, etc). The only thing that should happen is that you'll be unrooted once you update your phone but don't quote me on it. HOPEFULLY SOMEONE WITH MORE KNOWLEDGE WILL CHIME IN AND CONFIRM WHAT I SAID
Sent from my Nexus 4 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
if you want or need root, then root. if you dont want root or dont need it, then dont root. it doesnt matter what everyones opinion on the matter is, they are not you and dont know what your needs are. my guess is that you dont need it, since you arent decisive and need opinions. i need an opinion also, should i wash my hair today?
---------- Post added at 02:06 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:58 PM ----------
to update to 4.4 after having root is a non problem.. you either will have to flash a prerooted rom, or youll youll take the ota update, then reflash a custom recovery and the su binaries. both of which takes just a few minutes.
simms22 said:
i need an opinion also, should i wash my hair today?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Don't wash your hair today, let the natural oil build up.
eksasol said:
Don't wash your hair today, let the natural oil build up.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
little do you know, i am bald, and have the rest shaved off
but i need to come back here and thank you, when i get some thanks again. you made my evening!
Thanks for all the answers! helped me alot!
Has anyone been following the MotoX root method for Kit Kat seeing how it'll likely be the same for Ultra/Maxx? Wow! After seeing all the problems with RockMyMoto this method (assuming it'll work for us) is sure to be a doosie!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2538896
SlapMyMoto 0.5c Beta (4.4 root, RW to system)
Sent from my XT1080 using xda app-developers app
What problems? Inability to follow directions?
Sent from my XT1080 using Tapatalk
Exactly!
Sent from my XT1080 using xda app-developers app
Lol one of the issues we won't face is downgrading I am so glad the moto x gets these updates before us. We get to see all the pitfalls.
Buy dev edition. Unlock bootloader. Install custom recovery. Install su. Profit?
Sent from my XT1060 using Tapatalk
arcanexvi said:
Buy dev edition. Unlock bootloader. Install custom recovery. Install su. Profit?
Sent from my XT1060 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Out of stock ATM
arcanexvi said:
Buy dev edition. Unlock bootloader. Install custom recovery. Install su. Profit?
Sent from my XT1060 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've been thinking of finding someone willing to trade a dev edition for a regular+cash. It didnt make sense to get it at the time when the Verizon store had them for $499 and the dev edition was $650-ish, but i'm starting to itch for some custom ROMs. All this waiting for official stuff is getting old.
bigv5150 said:
Lol one of the issues we won't face is downgrading I am so glad the moto x gets these updates before us. We get to see all the pitfalls.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
And why wouldn't we have to down grade? And wipe all our date to update and root?
MonkeyMouth said:
And why wouldn't we have to down grade? And wipe all our date to update and root?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm glad you asked because were already on 4.2.2 why would we downgrade. The moto x got the update and jcase hadn't created the exploit yet which requires you to be on 4.2.2 so they had to down grade. Jcase just updated the exploit and is looking for droid testers his instructions say to downgrade unless your already on 4.2.2 My advie is to not install the update yet if you want root. You will just have to downgrade its more work. If you take the update pull it and put on your PC don't install it. I have the updater frozen so as soon as the update is posted I will attempt to root again on 4.2.2 and install the update hope it works smoothly.
bigv5150 said:
I'm glad you asked because were already on 4.2.2 why would we downgrade. The moto x got the update and jcase hadn't created the exploit yet which requires you to be on 4.2.2 so they had to down grade. Jcase just updated the exploit and is looking for droid testers his instructions say to downgrade unless your already on 4.2.2 My advie is to not install the update yet if you want root. You will just have to downgrade its more work. If you take the update pull it and put on your PC don't install it. I have the updater frozen so as soon as the update is posted I will attempt to root again on 4.2.2 and install the update hope it works smoothly.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That clears things up immensly! Thanks for taking the time to explain the process. I am currently on 4.2.2 and rooted. I'm just waiting for the update to drop so I can make a copy for people who need it. Then I'll try to root the new update.
MonkeyMouth said:
That clears things up immensly! Thanks for taking the time to explain the process. I am currently on 4.2.2 and rooted. I'm just waiting for the update to drop so I can make a copy for people who need it. Then I'll try to root the new update.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Here check this out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48648074#post48648074 im waiting for jcase to get back to me if we need to unroot. I would assume so a fxz of 4.2.2 would be the best platform to try this on. It seems fairly simple to be honest his instructions are very straight foward. I feel bad for the guys that took the update they have to downgrade.
Just FYI, adb shell getprop ro.boot.write_protect is still 0 after unrooting, stock 4.2.2, then taking the KitKat OTA. Might this make it easier to root 4.4 standalone? Or should I just go back down to 4.2.2 and follow slap?
dtreth said:
Just FYI, adb shell getprop ro.boot.write_protect is still 0 after unrooting, stock 4.2.2, then taking the KitKat OTA. Might this make it easier to root 4.4 standalone? Or should I just go back down to 4.2.2 and follow slap?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Would you be willing to:
1. Verify if downgrading back to 4.2.2 (12.15.15 firmware) is possible with the DROID line?
2. Verify if SlapMyMoto works with the DROID line?
dtreth said:
Just FYI, adb shell getprop ro.boot.write_protect is still 0 after unrooting, stock 4.2.2, then taking the KitKat OTA. Might this make it easier to root 4.4 standalone? Or should I just go back down to 4.2.2 and follow slap?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You can't root on 4.4 only 4.2.2 doesn't matter that write protection is off. i wish it was that simple.
tehcodeman said:
Would you be willing to:
1. Verify if downgrading back to 4.2.2 (12.15.15 firmware) is possible with the DROID line?
2. Verify if SlapMyMoto works with the DROID line?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I will when I get home. I have the files there, but I didn't grab my update.zip and I'm not sure if I can get it back after FXZing, so I may wait until I find it.
bigv5150 said:
You can't root on 4.4 only 4.2.2 doesn't matter that write protection is off. i wish it was that simple.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What I meant by my comment was "hey guys, MotoWpNoMo survived OTA! Would this make it easier to develop a 4.4 root method that does not require downgrading?"
dtreth said:
I will when I get home. I have the files there, but I didn't grab my update.zip and I'm not sure if I can get it back after FXZing, so I may wait until I find it.
What I meant by my comment was "hey guys, MotoWpNoMo survived OTA! Would this make it easier to develop a 4.4 root method that does not require downgrading?"
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't think it matters but that is a ? For jcase.
So in my excitement to flash 4.4, I forgot to take into account losing the root. So I tried to downgrade as per JCase's suggestion, but there's a big problem if you already successfully installed the OTA. It is an updated security signature and software. Because of this, RSD Lite and fastboot return with the error of "Flash failed. Downgraded security version". Does anyone have a workaround or an updated FXZ that will flash over 4.4 to revert back to 4.2.2 so I can try the JCase's backdoor method?
ExceterM said:
So in my excitement to flash 4.4, I forgot to take into account losing the root. So I tried to downgrade as per JCase's suggestion, but there's a big problem if you already successfully installed the OTA. It is an updated security signature and software. Because of this, RSD Lite and fastboot return with the error of "Flash failed. Downgraded security version". Does anyone have a workaround or an updated FXZ that will flash over 4.4 to revert back to 4.2.2 so I can try the JCase's backdoor method?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Mad at you. How do you have the 4.4 update already.
After unlocking the booter, and following the instructions for SlapMyMoto, I was able to install the update for my Mini and retain root. You can do it!
zefyx said:
After unlocking the booter, and following the instructions for SlapMyMoto, I was able to install the update for my Mini and retain root. You can do it!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It doesn't unlock the bootloader. Just takes off the write protection so you don't need to reboot your phone into recovery to turn it off. Which allows you to use the actual stock recovery as well.
Hello, I was wondering for those who kept root going from 4.1.2 to kitkat 4.4, how did you do it? My phone is currently locked but rooted and I just downloaded the OTA kit kat update but haven't installed it yet. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated!
No current method so don't upgrade if root is essential. Only unlocked bootloaders can get root back.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
We haven't seen anybody maintain root on a locked device across the OTA yet.
RikRong said:
We haven't seen anybody maintain root on a locked device across the OTA yet.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
what about on a device that is unlocked?
voodoo?
On an unlocked device you can just flash SuperSU in recovery...
And Voodoo won't work with a KitKat OTA.
how do you flash if root was lost when updated..im unlocked and had twrp but heard that is no longer working..and what is stranger is that developers option in settings s not there
Sent from my KFTHWI using Tapatalk
davekaz said:
how do you flash if root was lost when updated..im unlocked and had twrp but heard that is no longer working..and what is stranger is that developers option in settings s not there
Sent from my KFTHWI using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
First off, in regards to TWRP, there is a newer version of CWM recovery that works with KK. Use that.
Second, the developer options have been hidden, but you have to pay me to get the info.
JUST KIDDING!
Here is what you do:
Go to settings.
Click on "About Phone"
Scroll down and then start mashing on "Build Number". It will inform you that you have so many presses before going to developer mode.
After that, it will give you a toast saying developer mode has been activated. You're done!
If someone could kindly put together a walk thru on
How to go from stock, rooted, and unlocked to kit Kat w/root
That would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
I am in the same boat, rooted on stock ROM. I don't want to lose root, but my phone keep popping up the update installer request. My phone has kept me so happy for so long that I have not kept up with the forums. I just haven't had any problems, and I'd like to keep it that way. So, is there no root for 4.2.2 yet? Or there just isn't a way to preserve it across the OTA? Should I go back to stock unrooted, update and re-root? I've been reading around the forums and I am just not seeing a whole lot of info about this yet.
gadsden said:
I am in the same boat, rooted on stock ROM. I don't want to lose root, but my phone keep popping up the update installer request. My phone has kept me so happy for so long that I have not kept up with the forums. I just haven't had any problems, and I'd like to keep it that way. So, is there no root for 4.2.2 yet? Or there just isn't a way to preserve it across the OTA? Should I go back to stock unrooted, update and re-root? I've been reading around the forums and I am just not seeing a whole lot of info about this yet.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
this has been discussed many times.
if you have a LOCKED phone, there is NO way to have or preserve root going to KK
if you have a UNLOCKED phone, update to KK, flash the KK cwm, flash su zip in cwm, profit!
those are the only 2 options PERIOD.
bweN diorD said:
this has been discussed many times.
if you have a LOCKED phone, there is NO way to have or preserve root going to KK
if you have a UNLOCKED phone, update to KK, flash the KK cwm, flash su zip in cwm, profit!
those are the only 2 options PERIOD.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ok, well, I am not unlocked. So is there a way to stop the OTA?
gadsden said:
Ok, well, I am not unlocked. So is there a way to stop the OTA?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
you can freeze the updater. i dont recall the exact file name(s).
someone else can jump in, or you could google it.
bweN diorD said:
you can freeze the updater. i dont recall the exact file name(s).
someone else can jump in, or you could google it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You are correct, just freeze the updater.apk. Well, it's worked for me anyway.
RikRong said:
You are correct, just freeze the updater.apk. Well, it's worked for me anyway.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Some people say it's better to rename System > etc>security > otacerts.zip. Equal amount of people say to freeze updater. I'll follow you and freeze updater for now.
I'm itching to update to KK, and I can almost part with a rooted phone since I am running stock ROM anyway. But life without Titanium Backup just doesn't seem like a life at all.
Thanks again for the tips.
Speaking of freezing the update app, I have been doing that since before the last update so I'm currently running 4.1.2 9.16.6.XT926 does anyone know if it will cause me any trouble skipping an OTA?
Thanks.
sheep348 said:
Speaking of freezing the update app, I have been doing that since before the last update so I'm currently running 4.1.2 9.16.6.XT926 does anyone know if it will cause me any trouble skipping an OTA?
Thanks.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
you should unlock the bootloader first if you havent already. after you update you will no longer be able to ever.
as for the update, if you flash it with rsd there shouldnt be any issue that im aware of. if you unfreeze the updater and take the actual ota(s), it will not skip any, it will pull the next in line each time until you get to the most current.
however, you will still need to use rsd before taking or sideloading the KK ota or root will cause it to fail.
bweN diorD said:
you should unlock the bootloader first if you havent already. after you update you will no longer be able to ever.
as for the update, if you flash it with rsd there shouldnt be any issue that im aware of. if you unfreeze the updater and take the actual ota(s), it will not skip any, it will pull the next in line each time until you get to the most current.
however, you will still need to use rsd before taking or sideloading the KK ota or root will cause it to fail.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the help but I don't have a lot of knowledge about rooting. If I don't care about keeping root can I just take the OTAs or are you saying they will they fail if I don't first unlock the boot loader?
"after you update you will no longer be able to ever" What will I not be able to update again? The bootloader?
Thanks.
sheep348 said:
Thanks for the help but I don't have a lot of knowledge about rooting. If I don't care about keeping root can I just take the OTAs or are you saying they will they fail if I don't first unlock the boot loader?
Thanks.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
He's saying you could probably find someone who would be willing to pay you handsomely to trade phones.
Once you update your phone, the bootloader can't be unlocked....as far as we know, ever again. If you don't care, which it sounds like you don't, go ahead and update your phone.
sheep348 said:
Thanks for the help but I don't have a lot of knowledge about rooting. If I don't care about keeping root can I just take the OTAs or are you saying they will they fail if I don't first unlock the boot loader?
Thanks.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
most people who dont unlock the bootloader when they had the chance regret not doing it. its not a problem if you dont want to, i was just giving you a heads up more or less.
as for the updates,(this has nothing to do with the bootloader) im pretty sure the first 2 will install fine but im positive the 3rd, KK, will fail because you had root before.
so if you want to go to KK, you really have no other option but to use rsd first to return your phone to stock.
gadsden said:
He's saying you could probably find someone who would be willing to pay you handsomely to trade phones.
Once you update your phone, the bootloader can't be unlocked....as far as we know, ever again. If you don't care, which it sounds like you don't, go ahead and update your phone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks bweN diorD and gadsden,
I appreciate the help. I only use my root access for killing music apps and I have some bloatware frozen. So personally I think I'll go ahead and update to KK since the benefits should outweigh the loss of root access for me. Should I do a factory reset first or should I be good to go taking the OTA?
Thanks again I'm always hesitant to do things to my phone because I don't have the knowledge to fix it or the money to replace it.
---------- Post added at 06:18 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:15 PM ----------
bweN diorD said:
most people who dont unlock the bootloader when they had the chance regret not doing it. its not a problem if you dont want to, i was just giving you a heads up more or less.
as for the updates,(this has nothing to do with the bootloader) im pretty sure the first 2 will install fine but im positive the 3rd, KK, will fail because you had root before.
so if you want to go to KK, you really have no other option but to use rsd first to return your phone to stock.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Again thanks, I guess I'll have to look into finding out how to use rsd and go back to stock.
I take no credit for any of the work done in the links below, and am not the first to discover or prove any of this works. All I know is it works for now, and felt the best way was to start a brand new thread with both links contained to get the message to as many people as possible. And another soak test is coming from Motorola, so GET ROOT AND UNLOCKED WHILE YOU STILL CAN!!
Towelroot verified WORKING to root the 4.4.2 HD and HD MAXX:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...mctr=(not provided)&__utmv=-&__utmk=135540530
Unlocking possible again as well, after using Towelroot:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783912
LifeAsADroid said:
I take no credit for any of the work done in the links below, and am not the first to discover or prove any of this works. All I know is it works for now, and felt the best way was to start a brand new thread with both links contained to get the message to as many people as possible. And another soak test is coming from Motorola, so GET ROOT AND UNLOCKED WHILE YOU STILL CAN!!
Towelroot verified WORKING to root the 4.4.2 HD and HD MAXX:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...mctr=(not provided)&__utmv=-&__utmk=135540530
Unlocking possible again as well, after using Towelroot:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783912
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just read this on Android Authority and was wondering if it would work. Great to hear this. Again, users got REAL lucky on this one considering this wasn't created specifically for this phone, but for the general population of unpatched 4.4.2 kernels.
Word of warning, if you used my UNIVERSAL script to flash 183 onto your phone, you must either manually flash the TZ partition or use my KEEP DATA script before rooting an unlocking else it will fail.
BTW, I just received an email notification from Motorola stating there is another soak test coming, so definitely root and unlocked your phones NOW and I can't stress that more than enough or else, you can kiss root and unlocking good-bye, especially if this is an 4.4.3 update. Once 4.4.3 comes out, /system is no longer writeable and things will get really ugly.
So, root and then unlock your phones on the 4.4.2 KK OTA before the next one comes out or you will be sorry.
BTW, if you're so worried about voiding your warranty, once you root, you've voided your warranty and there is a root checker built into the device, so they can tell if you've rooted or not, so if you're going to root, you might as well unlock the bootloader.
The warranty concern is nonsense. PLENTY of people sent back unlocked phones and no one ever complained. Yes, the soak emails were known about last night which is why we've been trying like hell to get this message out to everyone to get it done NOW. It's an almost certainty that the TZ partition will be secured again. And root will almost assuredly be patched since it was patched in the linux kernel on june 3rd. Unlocking is the surefire way of keeping root forever, and getting to play with new roms which is awesome. Plus, don't like kitkat? Downgrade with my UNIVERSAL script. (Yes, the one that's causing some problems for people unlocking. LOL). We can not stress this enough...NOW is the time to unlock before it's too late. I can't even begin to describe how lucky you all are.
One question. After I unlock the bootloader and they send out 4.4.3, will it be possible to take the update OTA?
Sent from my DROID RAZR HD using Tapatalk
newmanx4 said:
One question. After I unlock the bootloader and they send out 4.4.3, will it be possible to take the update OTA?
Sent from my DROID RAZR HD using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yes but there may be some jumping through hoops like unrooting or sbfing but you will not lose any data and you can just reroot by flashing a superuser.zip . unless moto goes from nice to evil and this ota re locks boot loaders
That's what I'm wondering. Will they relock the bootloader or leave it be since these phones are nearly two years old.
Sent from my DROID RAZR HD using Tapatalk
billycar11 said:
yes but there may be some jumping through hoops like unrooting or sbfing but you will not lose any data and you can just reroot by flashing a superuser.zip . unless moto goes from nice to evil and this ota re locks boot loaders
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Stop that. They're not going to relock the bootloader. However, screw OTA's. Wait for the FXZ to leak and use my RSD Script Generator to create a KEEP DATA or UNIVERSAL script and flash that with RSD. Flash custom recovery (CWM or TWRP) and flash supersu zip and be done with the whole thing. Forget unrooting and trying to make the OTA work. Too much effort. LMAO
---------- Post added at 11:13 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:11 AM ----------
See what you've done? These poor people are now paranoid about bootloader relocking. LOL! They won't relock it. It's physically blowing an eFuse to do the unlock. Relocking would be extremely problematic and cause more problems than they'd solve. And given the likelihood that this was "accidentally" done (cough cough) in the first place, there's an almost 0 chance of relocking.
newmanx4 said:
That's what I'm wondering. Will they relock the bootloader or leave it be since these phones are nearly two years old.
Sent from my DROID RAZR HD using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i dont think they will and even if they did we could probably get around it with @SamuriHL universal script we would just have to wait until the sbf/fxz files come out
Which I'm recommending you do anyway.
I never unlocked the bootloader the first go round but I'm sure going to this time.
Sent from my DROID RAZR HD using Tapatalk
Good to hear. I want everyone with these phones to do so. This is a great opportunity. No one should be sitting on the fence this time.
Indeed great news. Too bad my XT926 is not by me right now(being used by my father) and I can get my hand on it till september.
My XT926 is bootloader locked and has JB 4.2. build is 9.18.94 I guess. I have my phone rooted and since then using safestrape 3.12 and has stock rom and RageHD ROM on it. I can remember last time trying to install OTA the update process failed even I have used voodoo root keeper to hide the root.
So now my questions:
1. Is the right procedure for me: Remove Safestrape->Install OTA KK->using methods described here for KK for unlocking?
2. What was the reason the OTA update failed? Safestrape?
3. Can I uninstall Safestrape through it's "uninstall" function?
4. After uninstall if I choose OTA update, will it be the current KK which contains this old exploit for bootloader unlocking?
5. If I wait till september to do it myself, if there is another OTA out which patches this exploit again, can I fake a Moto web site and pointing it to the current KK (183), lets say change the host file on XT926. Is this even possible?
xknobi said:
Indeed great news. Too bad my XT926 is not by me right now(being used by my father) and I can get my hand on it till september.
My XT926 is bootloader locked and has JB 4.2. build is 9.18.94 I guess. I have my phone rooted and since then using safestrape 3.12 and has stock rom and RageHD ROM on it. I can remember last time trying to install OTA the update process failed even I have used voodoo root keeper to hide the root.
So now my questions:
1. Is the right procedure for me: Remove Safestrape->Install OTA KK->using methods described here for KK for unlocking?
2. What was the reason the OTA update failed? Safestrape?
3. Can I uninstall Safestrape through it's "uninstall" function?
4. After uninstall if I choose OTA update, will it be the current KK which contains this old exploit for bootloader unlocking?
5. If I wait till september to do it myself, if there is another OTA out which patches this exploit again, can I fake a Moto web site and pointing it to the current KK (183), lets say change the host file on XT926. Is this even possible?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
1.yes
2.yes
3.yes but ota will not install you will need to use what me and @SamuriHL posted to go to the ota
4.yes
5.no you you use the hack posted
billycar11 said:
3.yes but ota will not install you will need to use what me and @SamuriHL posted to go to the ota
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ok, maybe you mean the following method?
http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/45494-how-to-xt926-upgrade-to-kitkat-ota/
xknobi said:
Ok, maybe you mean the following method?
http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/45494-how-to-xt926-upgrade-to-kitkat-ota/
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yes that is what i posted
Rooted and unlocked using the apk's. Doesn't get any easier than that. Now what is the preferred custom recovery for most of you?
Sent from my DROID RAZR HD using Tapatalk
billycar11 said:
yes that is what i posted
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks billycar11!
From the description I see that the script will flash a 760MB file, the KK 4.4.2 (KDA20.62-10.1). So I won't be afaid that when I wait for some months even if Moto patched their OTA for this bootloader exploit, the unpatched bootloader is still in (KDA20.62-10.1), which I assume is build 183, so I will still be able to use this exploit, as long as my phone is in JB (4.2) state?
newmanx4 said:
Rooted and unlocked using the apk's. Doesn't get any easier than that. Now what is the preferred custom recovery for most of you?
Sent from my DROID RAZR HD using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
twrp by @dhacker29 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2776515
---------- Post added at 02:14 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:11 PM ----------
xknobi said:
Thanks billycar11!
From the description I see that the script will flash a 760MB file, the KK 4.4.2 (KDA20.62-10.1). So I won't be afaid that when I wait for some months even if Moto patched their OTA for this bootloader exploit, the unpatched bootloader is still in (KDA20.62-10.1), which I assume is build 183, so I will still be able to use this exploit, as long as my phone is in JB (4.2) state?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
there is no jb 4.2 i think you mean 4.1..2 . but you will not be able to use it on jelly bean you need to update to kitkat root then unlock.
Sorry for the confusing title, I'm coming from a Nexus 6 that was one of the easier phones to root and customize. So far I'm on month 3 with my V20 and haven't rooted it yet. If I do and receive a OTA I will obviously lose my root, but once I have an unlocked bootloader and custom recovery installed, can I just reflash SuperSU to reroot?
Thanks.
OTAs on this device overwrite the bootloader and recovery. you WILL lose root. and all methods to get it back.
me2151 said:
OTAs on this device overwrite the bootloader and recovery. you WILL lose root. and all methods to get it back.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So then rooting is pointless right now?
Should have got the Pixel.
Thanks!
tjlmbklr said:
So then rooting is pointless right now?
Should have got the Pixel.
Thanks!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Rooting isn't pointless. You still have access to all the exclusive root features you wouldn't normally have of course. Why would you want to take an OTA anyways unless you have some issue with your phone (just curious)? You could just wait for someone to post TWRP flashable updates for your variant of the V20 so that you can keep root access while still updating.
jluca98 said:
Rooting isn't pointless. You still have access to all the exclusive root features you wouldn't normally have of course. Why would you want to take an OTA anyways unless you have some issue with your phone (just curious)? You could just wait for someone to post TWRP flashable updates for your variant of the V20 so that you can keep root access while still updating.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm waiting on 7.1 and fear I will finally root and it will come along in a OTA and I will not be able to root again until someone comes up with a new form of root.
I could be way off though, like I said, noob question, I came from a Nexus 6 where root and flashing custom ROMs was a cake walk for a guy like me.
Sent from my VS995 using Tapatalk
all you need is someone who can provide updated stock roms like i do on the ls997 On the sprint model we have the latest OTA applied
Yeah but as you know development on the H990ds isn't exactly buzzing.
Neither are the other devices anymore
I guess. Surprises me as the V20 is a fantastic device.
But LG didn't make anything easy for you devs.