[Q] knox normal behaviour? - Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I was in stock I9500UBUBMG1, then I used auto-root and after that I flashed cwm recovery via odin. Everything worked fine in despite of Custom Binary and custom system status in dowload mode. So tried miui rom, but after 2 months I decided to come back to stock I9500UBUBMG1.
curiously, all status are Official again.
Is that normal? since I just use stock 4.2.2 (old bootloader) or custom roms I can always return to official?
If I update via OTA will still official and show knox 0x0? (not that I would update).
If I install a 4.3 or 4.4 based rom I can return to MG1 with offical? or just if isn't TW based?
Thanks

I too have a question relevant to Knox behaviour: I am on Stock 4.2.2 MG1 firmware. I would like to Root and use Custom firmware. Any possible way not to trip Knox Counter? Anyway to save or backup my current modem / firmware, so that I can flash back to it if Knox is tripped?

mazbot said:
I was in stock I9500UBUBMG1, then I used auto-root and after that I flashed cwm recovery via odin. Everything worked fine in despite of Custom Binary and custom system status in dowload mode. So tried miui rom, but after 2 months I decided to come back to stock I9500UBUBMG1.
curiously, all status are Official again.
Is that normal? since I just use stock 4.2.2 (old bootloader) or custom roms I can always return to official?
If I update via OTA will still official and show knox 0x0? (not that I would update).
If I install a 4.3 or 4.4 based rom I can return to MG1 with offical? or just if isn't TW based?
Thanks
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if you update your phone to a rom with knox bootloader, then you can't root and install custom recovery without tripping knox flag.. otherwise, on 4.2.2 you can root and return to stock rom(only 4.2.2) to get fully official status.. consider flashing latest roms modified to support old bootloaders.. so you can keep away all knox things... press thanks if it helps..

jk2rd said:
I too have a question relevant to Knox behaviour: I am on Stock 4.2.2 MG1 firmware. I would like to Root and use Custom firmware. Any possible way not to trip Knox Counter? Anyway to save or backup my current modem / firmware, so that I can flash back to it if Knox is tripped?
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As we are in the old bootloader, we don't need to complain about knox, since we can flash stock MG1 back. You just need to pay attention because some custom firmware are imcompatible with old bootlader (or modem, idk) and if i'm not wrong, some custom roms can update your bootloader. There are some methods that will not turn your status to custom, but I think that auto-root and flash custom recovery is the best way to install a custom rom.

Thanks so much for that info!
I've Rooted using Ryebread76's method:
If you plan to flash custom firmware, as in a ROM, your going to trip KNOX. If you just want root, I used saferoot. It's for the VZW version, but it works just fine for the i337M.
Any suggestions on Custom Recovery / Firmware that will not change 4.2.2 MG1 bootloader?

jk2rd said:
Thanks so much for that info!
I've Rooted using Ryebread76's method:
If you plan to flash custom firmware, as in a ROM, your going to trip KNOX. If you just want root, I used saferoot. It's for the VZW version, but it works just fine for the i337M.
Any suggestions on Custom Recovery / Firmware that will not change 4.2.2 MG1 bootloader?
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It will not trip knox, since it is not activated in MG1.
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If you are still on 4.2.2, then I would recommend to not upgrade to a 4.3 stock rom. Doing so will flash the new bootloader which will setup Knox on your phone. When you have the new bootloader and you flash a custom rom, Knox wil be set to 0x1. You can read more about Knox in the Knox thread.
If you planning on flashing custom roms in the future, then stay away from official firmwares.
Lennyz1988 said:
If you are still on 4.2.2, then I would recommend to not upgrade to a 4.3 stock rom. Doing so will flash the new bootloader which will setup Knox on your phone. When you have the new bootloader and you flash a custom rom, Knox wil be set to 0x1. You can read more about Knox in the Knox thread.
If you planning on flashing custom roms in the future, then stay away from official firmwares.
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So is should stay on 4.2.2? What about flashing roms based on 4.3.3?
any significant changes in 4.3.3 that ill be missing?
btw thanks for replying bro.
when did 4.3.3 come out
i would like to know just where is this 4.3.3 coming from ..i know 4.3 is out but have not seen any official 4.3.3 on samsung servers...or google GE edition either ..
Is this a custom rom...
Nexsss1 said:
So is should stay on 4.2.2? What about flashing roms based on 4.3.3?
any significant changes in 4.3.3 that ill be missing?
btw thanks for replying bro.
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You can flash any custom rom based on 4.3 that you want. Because custom roms don't flash the bootloader. There seem te be some problems with sound and wifi (but i'm not sure) when you flash a custom 4.3 rom on an old bootloader. But you can always revert to a custom 4.2.2 rom. So you can just try it
Just don't flash originial firmwares. Custom roms are safe.
Lennyz1988 said:
You can flash any custom rom based on 4.3 that you want. Because custom roms don't flash the bootloader. There seem te be some problems with sound and wifi (but i'm not sure) when you flash a custom 4.3 rom on an old bootloader. But you can always revert to a custom 4.2.2 rom. So you can just try it
Just don't flash originial firmwares. Custom roms are safe.
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Thanks for the info bro..i just wanted to know whether I would be missinganything significant If idont updateto 4.3.3 or any 4.3.3 roms, cause of the problems you mentioned
sorry to highjack the thread as its a noob question but wanted to make sure.
I am on MH8 knox 0x0.
If i flash the 4.3 MJ5 stock firmware via know will it trigger knox? i have no intention of rooting just to upgrade to official 4.3?

[Q] Most pure Samsung 4.3 custom rom (old bootloader and no knox)?

I currently have 4.2.2 with the old bootloader on i9505. I would like to keep it Knox free, but would also like
to try a newer rom. Is there a rom that is as close as possible to stock Samsung 4.3 (obviously
without Knox or new bootloader)?
This:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2250824
Use CWM version. Stock rom without KNOX and bootloader. :good:
nikzDHD said:
This:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2250824
Use CWM version. Stock rom without KNOX and bootloader. :good:
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Which modem would suit the PDA: XXUEML6 version? The same one that came with XXUEML6 in stock? I have heard conflicting reports about different modem versions playing not so nice and its better to match them with what came with stock rom?
I assume also that XXUEML6 WiFi_FIX will need to be flashed via Odin after flashing a modem?
clarification
So do you mean without knox and without bootloader or do you mean or do you mean without knox but with a bootlaoder as it is the older bootloader that i am trying to find for i9505. i understand some forums say you cannot roll back the firmware from 4.4.2 to 4.2. I however am having the screen rotation problem with the new 4.4.2 so i'm trying to find a way and one way might be to install a custom rom with old bootloader via CWM install zip function to replace the new 4.4.2 bootloader. This will then allow me to roll back the firmware to an older version and kill my screen rotation problems.
nikzDHD said:
This:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2250824
Use CWM version. Stock rom without KNOX and bootloader. :good:
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[Q] [I9505] Custom rom on KN0X tripped phone?

Hey all, I'd like to install this rom, but my phone (S4 international GT-i9505) is KN0X tripped on 4.3. I currently run 4.3 stock. Is it safe to install this rom, and is it possible to downgrade back to 4.3 stock after?
screen said:
Hey all, I'd like to install this rom, but my phone (S4 international GT-i9505) is KN0X tripped on 4.3. I currently run 4.3 stock. Is it safe to install this rom, and is it possible to downgrade back to 4.3 stock after?
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Yup you can flash any custom rom via custom recovery and Yes you can still downgrade your phone into 4.3 stock rom but remember not to flash a Stock 4.4.2 Kitkat firmware because flashing 4.4.2 firmware can no longer downgrade to 4.3 stock rom. Flashing any custom rom/root will trigger your knox and If you wanna know more about knox , check this thread Have a nice day.

[Q] Stock ROM

I have the i9505 running CM11 at the moment without any knox tripped since I flash everything via recovery and I'm planning to sell the phone so I want to revert back to stock ROM so the phone can receive OTA without tripping knox, is there a way?
Lither said:
I have the i9505 running CM11 at the moment without any knox tripped since I flash everything via recovery and I'm planning to sell the phone so I want to revert back to stock ROM so the phone can receive OTA without tripping knox, is there a way?
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Hi,
If you flash an stock rom with Odin will not trip knox. It will be like factory new...as long as knox has not been trip previously

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Trying to Root new 4.4.4 NH7 update (tmobile) without knox trip
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Can anyone tell me how to flash back the 4.4.2 NB4 stock kernel through odin (am i flashing the kernel or firmware ??? what the hell is he differece ??) the kernel is only 8.5mb zipped on my desktop. Its a boot.img file and i don't see in ODIN where to load it ? Also I can't seem to find the stock NH7 kernel just by itself ??, I did find a download called permissive_NH7.zip. which has just the image file !! Is this stock or custom, because custom to my understanding will trip my knox. I would love step by step not to Fudge up my new phone.

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