Does any one know if I can use the tmobile G2 with a canadian wireless plan if its unlocked. I have read about all that tri band stuff but its a little above my head.
Thanks!
T-mobile does not have the same 3G/4G bands as Canadian carriers (Bell, Rogers, etc)
You will only get EDGE. If you want 3G/4G go with an unlocked AT&T phone.
and if ive read correctly, you need to go to a carrier that uses gsm (because tmobile phones use gsm)
Umm, not sure what only getting edge means. Does that just mean no data, just voice and texts?
dwang93 said:
Umm, not sure what only getting edge means. Does that just mean no data, just voice and texts?
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As of 2011 there are three levels of data speed that are used and the order goes like this:
4G
3G
EDGE
The speed decreases as you go from 4G to 3G, and EDGE being the slowest.
You will receive data, just not at blazing fast speeds.
From what I understand, T-Mobile uses AWS, of which three carriers here provide: Mobilicity, Wind Mobile, and Videotron.
It's not worth trying to get what EDGE you can from Rogers/Telus/Bell.
* Ontario biased *
I would recommend to get an unlocked ATT phone
So after some research, the G2 is a quad band gsm phone, which means it should work on any GSM based carrier. From what I've seen that would be mainly rogers and fido correct? Or are there cheaper alternatives?
Also I looked into the AWS but I'm not sure if my g2 is compatible with AWS. It seems as if tmobile uses both. Does that mean my phone is compatible with GSM and AWS? I'm wondering if you could confirm this Ariel?
Also I will be in the montreal area.
Yes. It will work but the G2 doesn't have the same 3G bands as Rogers. That means you'll only get EDGE which, by personal experience, sucks. I'm not sure about Fido, though.
k, what about an aws service like videotron? That should work as well correct?
I bought HTC HD 7 from T-Mobile and it only worked on rogers (in canada).
Wondering on what carriers with unlocked Nexus 4 work?
Please help. I am a noobie at this kind of stuff
aDVnatgae said:
I bought HTC HD 7 from T-Mobile and it only worked on rogers (in canada).
Wondering on what carriers with unlocked Nexus 4 work?
Please help. I am a noobie at this kind of stuff
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Hey, I live in Toronto and I plan on using my Nexus 4 on Mobilicity, but since the phone is pentaband, it will work on ANY carrier in Canada, although you will not be getting LTE on the big three. However, Bell has DC HSPA+ so your speeds should be best on that.
If it runs on the big three, I have no problem.
I live in Sudbury and there is no mobilicity here.
Works on the Big 3, their Little 4 clones and the newcomers (WIND/Mobilicity). Possibly more, I hear there are provincial carriers too in some places, but it probably works there.
Telus/Koodo, Bell/Virgin/Solo are HSPA+ 42Mbps
Rogers/Fido have HSPA+ 21Mbps
WIND/Mobilicty are HSPA+ 21Mbps
I'm surprised it hasn't been brought up to attention yet, but is it possible for the i337 to work on AWS band?
The reason I'm asking this is because I've found services through kijiji to modify the i337m (Canadian version) to work with WIND and MOBILICITY.
mod edit: advertising paid services is not allowed
I highly doubt those people will tell you exactly how to mod it and I don't have a S4 yet but maybe it's the same method use to mod the gnote 2.
I'm really hoping someone could try it out and see what happens, maybe even with a tutorial if it's successful.
I have seen this ad as well. I have galaxy s4 from Bell (SGH i337m). I have tried the Note 2 method but that does not work on it. There must be a new trick which someone has figured out but they are using it commercially.
the only carrier that has both aws and regular 2600mhz lte is rogers (at least in canada) and they are rebranding it to lte max
http://www.mobilemag.com/2013/05/02/rogers-launches-lte-max/
and yes, the gs4 does switch between 1700-2100 and 2600 bands and its the only phone to do it
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the only carrier that has both aws and regular 2600mhz lte is rogers (at least in canada) and they are rebranding it to lte max
http://www.mobilemag.com/2013/05/02/rogers-launches-lte-max/
and yes, the gs4 does switch between 1700-2100 and 2600 bands and its the only phone to do it
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Someone in the T-Mobile S4 forum claims that the T-Mobile S4 will do it as well.
polish_pat said:
the only carrier that has both aws and regular 2600mhz lte is rogers (at least in canada) and they are rebranding it to lte max
http://www.mobilemag.com/2013/05/02/rogers-launches-lte-max/
and yes, the gs4 does switch between 1700-2100 and 2600 bands and its the only phone to do it
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Bell and Rogers will both carry the i337m model so I guess it won't make a difference either way if the phone is unlocked.
But what do you mean it can switch between 1700-2100? I didn't think aws is a original supported banned for the i337.
Originally they are able to switch between LTE Aws 1700/2100 and 2600 but the HSPA 1700/2100 is disabled in software of SGH i337 and 337m. We are talking about Kijiji ads where people are able to sim unlock and enable Hspa 1700/2100 on these phones.
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killer8297 said:
Bell and Rogers will both carry the i337m model so I guess it won't make a difference either way if the phone is unlocked.
But what do you mean it can switch between 1700-2100? I didn't think aws is a original supported banned for the i337.
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1700 and 2100mhz are the regular LTE bands, maximum theoretical speeds of 75 and 100mb/s respectively. 2600mhz is AWS, aka Rogers' LTE Max which has 150mb/s. As of now, the only carrier in Canada to have AWS is Rogers and in the US, T-Mobile seems to have it and verizon are planning for it sometime this year, AT&T seem to have it too but at 2300mhz, i'm not sure why tho. The GS4 can switch between AWS and LTE, which also mean that it will be doing that when the 700mhz spectrum war will be over. And the 700mhz war is probbaly the most important technological advance for the mobile industry as that frequency can go through very thick walls other material that greatly diminishes current LTE bands.
MY I337 does not work on T-Mobile 3G/4G only get EDGE.
Has there been any way to enable aws bands like on the note 2
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wait for a canadien modem to be a flashable zip
I see
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hyelton said:
MY I337 does not work on T-Mobile 3G/4G only get EDGE.
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That's because AT&T's S4 doesn't support those other bands. It has been reported that T-mobiles S4 does plus it also works on AT&T's network (LTE included).
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That's because AT&T's S4 doesn't support those other bands. It has been reported that T-mobiles S4 does plus it also works on AT&T's network (LTE included).
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Yes I know it doesn't have it out of the box but does it have hardware for aws to be enabled
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Yes I know it doesn't have it out of the box but does it have hardware for aws to be enabled
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im pretty sure it does, it would be less expensive for samsung to disable the AWS bands by software then to create a new motherboard with other hardware that doesnt support it. I'm ready to bid 100$ that it has the hardware for it, just not active
Just to clarify some of the incorrect info / misunderstandings here:
The S3 and Note 2 (ATT / Rogers / Bell / TELUS variants) had a Qualcomm tweak that enabled AWS HSPA so that the hardware would work on T-Mobile / WIND / Mobilicity.
The question is if a similar tweak will work on the I337/M (ATT / Rogers / Bell / TELUS variants). I am curious because when I travel to the US, I use T-Mobile.
From what I read, out of the box, the T-Mobile variant of the S4 will work on all the carriers, but the ATT variant will not (like the S3 / Note 2 before it, a tweak is required).
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wait for a canadien modem to be a flashable zip
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Hope it's not going to be the quality as the original gnote note, i717.
WorldIRC said:
Just to clarify some of the incorrect info / misunderstandings here:
The S3 and Note 2 (ATT / Rogers / Bell / TELUS variants) had a Qualcomm tweak that enabled AWS HSPA so that the hardware would work on T-Mobile / WIND / Mobilicity.
The question is if a similar tweak will work on the I337/M (ATT / Rogers / Bell / TELUS variants). I am curious because when I travel to the US, I use T-Mobile.
From what I read, out of the box, the T-Mobile variant of the S4 will work on all the carriers, but the ATT variant will not (like the S3 / Note 2 before it, a tweak is required).
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ive come to realize with the s4 that att and perhaps other us carriers are plain simple assholes. Sure, you might have a 2 year contract when us canadiens have 3 years contracts, but at least we have unlocked bootloaders, we can use hotspotting without carriers shutting us down, we dont have throttling and we have the 50gb dropbox offer regardless if our carrier has its own cloud storage.
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ive come to realize with the s4 that att and perhaps other us carriers are plain simple assholes. Sure, you might have a 2 year contract when us canadiens have 3 years contracts, but at least we have unlocked bootloaders, we can use hotspotting without carriers shutting us down, we dont have throttling and we have the 50gb dropbox offer regardless if our carrier has its own cloud storage.
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Our rates are cheaper now anyways. Our $65-$85 plans in Canada are $120 in the US. But back on topic...
Is our bootloader I337M for sure unlocked? Are you sure?
WorldIRC said:
Our rates are cheaper now anyways. Our $65-$85 plans in Canada are $120 in the US. But back on topic...
Is our bootloader I337M for sure unlocked? Are you sure?
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100%, there are many many people in the forum that have the canadian variant and are running a custom recovery. I would do it, but i wont touch any rooting or recovery until an OTA come and fixes the lag issues
Sorry guys but I do not exactly understand if the S4 can work on Wind Mobile or not?
I have a Nexus 4 which I want to sell (tired of terrible battery life with an average camera) and I want to buy the Rogers S4. If I were to unlock the S4 can it run on Wind Mobile 3G?
Thanks in advance.
I know that T-Mobile is not a "top Tier" carrier, but they actually have decent coverage where I use my phone and the $30 plan suits my needs at a LOW price. Anyway, my options for which phone to buy look like this:
AT&T version/D800: Looks like I would get 21Mbit/s instead of 42Mbit/s on 3G (according to Wikipedia frequency chart). T-Mobil rep said I would not get LTE. However, the wiki page for LG G2 show the phones having identical LTE frequencies (other than 850 MHz), so I'm not sure. Is the rep right, no LTE?
Verizon version/VZ980: Missing the UTMS 1700 MHz band, so limited to 21Mbit/s like the AT&T D800. It has NONE of the LTE frequencies that the T-Mobile version has, no LTE. It has only one of the LTE frequencies, 1700(band 4).
T-Mobile version/D801: Obviously will work perfectly, but not much development at all.
The only reason I'm not just buying the T-Mobile version is the lack of development. Maybe I should just live with that and hope that developers at least release more D801 mods so that I can mod the stock ROM....people seem to like the stock ROM a bit. Opinions?
Is anyone using the D802 in the US on ATT. Will this phone get LTE and if not how are the HSPA+ speeds? trying to decide between the D802 and the Nexus 5. I LOVE the nexus 5 but I really really like the G2 as well I don't really feel like dealing with the ATT one though (and I already have the D802 on the way).
I'm wondering if no one is using a d802 on att. Does anyone have experience with any international lte phone on att.
D802 im quite sure will not get lte ... cuz AT&T and canada essentially run on the same bands... I get lte in canada because I am in 2600 mhz location... if you are within that then yes you can get that lte... HSPA speeds are rock solid though... absolutely no issues